The Herald-Sun reported on Monday on a “privately conducted” Victorian state poll by YouGov that showed Labor maintaining a commanding 55-45 lead on two-party preferred, from primary votes of Labor 44%, Coalition 40% and Greens 11%. This compares with 57.3-42.7 at Labor’s landslide win in 2018, when the primary votes were Labor 42.9%, Coalition 35.2% and Greens 10.7%. Personal ratings are good for Daniel Andrews (65% approval and 32% disapproval) and disastrous for Liberal leader Michael O’Brien (26% approval and 53% disapproval).
The poll nonetheless found that 55% thought it fair to hold Daniel Andrews responsible for the second COVID-19 wave, compared with 40% for not fair. Fifty per cent believed Andrews had been honest and transparent about the hotel quarantine failure against 43% for not honest and transparent; 53% said Victoria was heading in the right direction versus 39% who said it is “time for change”. The poll was conducted from October 29 to November from a sample of 1241.
UPDATE: Now a Roy Morgan poll gives Labor a lead of 58.5-41.5, up from 51.5-48.5 a month ago, from primary votes of Labor 45% (up five), Coalition 34.5% (down 5.5) and Greens 11% (up two). Daniel Andrews’ approval rating split is out from 59-41 to 71-29. The poll was conducted by SMS on Monday and Tuesday from a sample of 818.
In real election news, the Electoral Commission of Queensland has been completing preference distributions for the October 31 state election, and while the numbers haven’t been officially published, Antony Green relates that luck has favoured Labor in the final preference distributions in Bundaberg and Nicklin. These seats have been gained from the LNP with respective margins of 11 and 79 votes, pending LNP requests for recounts.
Confirmation of these results would leave Labor with 52 seats in a parliament of 93, a net gain of four compared with the 2017 result. South Brisbane was lost to the Greens (6.0% margin, 9.5% swing), while five were gained from the LNP Bundaberg (by a 0.0% margin with a 4.2% swing), Nicklin (a 0.1% margin and a 5.4% swing), Caloundra (a 2.5% margin and a 5.9% swing), Hervey Bay (a 2.2% margin and an 11.3% swing) and Pumicestone (a 5.1% margin and a 6.0% swing). These are Labor’s first ever wins in Nicklin and Caloundra, both of which are on the Sunshine Coast.
The LNP is duly reduced from 38 seats to 33, unless you count their recovery of Whitsunday after its previous member was expelled from the party mid-term. Their one piece of good news from late counting was that they managed to retain the Gold Coast seat of Currumbin by 310 votes, a 0.3% margin against a swing to Labor of 3.0% (David Crisafulli will be chosen as the party’s new leader unopposed at a party room meeting today). South Brisbane increases the Greens from one to two, with the party having easily its 2017 gain of Maiwar from the LNP, while Katter’s Australian Party and One Nation achieved status quo results of three seats and one respectively, as did independents with Sandy Bolton comfortably retaining Noosa.
Official results are naturally available from the ECQ; the numbers on my live results facility are emphatically not official, in that I have preserved them as they were a week ago before the ECQ removed the indicative two-candidate preferred counts. This means both the booth-level two-candidate preferred results and preference flow by candidate breakdowns are preserved, albeit in not entirely complete form.
Finally, while the attention of most of us has been firmly elsewhere, the process for the November 28 Groom by-election has continued chugging along, with nominations having been declared last Friday. The by-election has attracted a remarkably thin field of four candidates, which somewhat to my surprise includes one from Labor: Chris Meibusch, a community lawyer and unsuccessful candidate for the Toowoomba mayoralty in March. The preselection of LNP candidate Garth Hamilton was related here. The other two candidates are from the Liberal Democrats and Sustainable Australia – as well as there being no One Nation presence, this must be the first time a while that the Greens have left a federal contest uncontested.
Mark Butler had the impossible task of selling a dogs breakfast of a climate/energy policy dished up by the fossil fuel cartels unions – Shortens AWU being one of them.
lizzie @ #479 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 1:42 pm
Brett Sutton is a Victorian legend.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/13/state-of-origin-decider-can-be-played-in-front-of-capacity-52500-crowd
So it’s up from 75% to 100%. It would be nice to see the modelling on that, but I assume there is some. As for NSW carriers, I think Sydney is still on the restricted list for entry to Qld.
FS
There is a different between going to a normal pub and a strip joint.
It would be a different story if Morrison was looking at or gesturing at the lady’s boobs but in that photo he has his back to her and she is lending in to him.
Can’t stand being without us !
Giving Victorians the chance to get away from other Victorians
The woman with her arm around Scomo in Tassie is the wife (had six kids) of an old friend of my partner. He’s into eco tourist development and entertainment venue startups. It was posted on her Facebook a week or two ago.
Next leader – Clare O’Neill is the one to watch. She is locking in the conservative side of the ALP Right as a base.. But she is also young and generally progressive and very articulate. But most importantly a bit fresh. Charmers is boring compared with her.
Sohar
It really is a small world, isn’t it!
Just heard an AMA rep from WA. He is very concerned about WA opening border as he said they are unprepared, with no systems in place to match NSW or Vic. People are very relaxed and seem unaware of the dangers. He said it’s up to the gov to have done much more in preparation, but bureaucracy…
lizzie @ #509 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 3:30 pm
I’m always a bit skeptical of AMA mouthpieces. But if this is true, I can only shake my head in wonder.
Clare O’Neill could turn out to be the Liberals worst nightmare because they can’t attack her career background because its what many of them wish they had and she has the personality to put them under pressure.
Historyintime @ #507 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 3:26 pm
Mundo picked Clare O’Neill a while back as the most likely female leader by a mile.
You’re right, Jim is a blob – a smart blob – by comparison.
Clare O’Neill leading the federal ALP would be a game changer.
Spray
He said they don’t have Covid safe regulations in place for businesses, and haven’t paid enough attention to training health workers. No track and tracing like eastern states and no preparation for mask-wearing if there is an outbreak.
No doubt WA bludgers will want to comment.
The prince of “no comment”. I wonder whose “learnings” he’s sharing.
With undivided attention to the issue, Trump continues to turn the coronavirus corner with 161500 new cases yesterday!
lizzie @ #514 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 3:39 pm
Surely that can’t be true. Hope it’s not. Was kind of looking forward to seeing my kids some time.
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https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/mike-baird-appointed-chair-of-540-million-federal-growth-fund-20201113-p56ecq.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/caribbean-cruise-ship-coronavirus-seadream
BK “With undivided attention to the issue, Trump continues to turn the coronavirus corner with 161500 new cases yesterday!”
About 1/2000 Americans. How many days can that continue?
The leaners have had a brilliant idea. Tax workers who work from home
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/there-should-be-a-tax-on-working-from-home-banking-giant-says-20201113-p56e8d.html
Edit leaders to leaners
I suspect Miller, the AMA guy from WA mentioned earlier, is working towards bigger and better things politically….a new Dr Nelson perhaps?
We in WA have been lucky enough to have his prognostications for most of this year……………
For some of us, these comments have had nothing much to add in a constructive way, and on one or two occasions, he has had retract some of his more assertive (critical of the McGowan government) comments……I don’t think he is working towards representing the Labor party any time soon……
Tricot
A case of the boy who cried wolf, perhaps?
And she wasn’t even a good Speaker.
announcement 3 weeks ago
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-weekly-cap-on-international-arrivals-to-australia-will-be-increased-from-next-month
announcement today
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/an-additional-150-australians-will-be-able-to-return-from-overseas-each-day-under-increased-travel-cap
The weekly cap on international arrivals was 6000, so if my math holds up Qld will be taking an extra 1050 per week into quarantine. I don’t know what other states are taking, nor what Qld’s current intake is. But at roughly 7000 per week it will take at least 5 weeks to get the remaining 35,000 home.
“Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· 12h
“REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.” @ChanelRion @OANN”
Won’t be long and he’ll be claiming he got 300 percent of the vote and no one voted for Biden.
PvO says “Coming soon to all good bookstores.” Can this day get any worse?
Perparim @ #417 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 3:13 pm
When I read counts that end in lots of zeroes like that it makes me suspicious. Computer systems keep exact numbers, not “to the nearest 1000”.
Apparently Qld’s current intake of o/s travellers is 1000 per week. So today’s announced increase will take it to 2050 per week. I’m guessing NSW is taking the bulk of the other 5000?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-19/coronavirus-queensland-government-hotel-quarantine-unpaid-bills/12668208
Late Riser @ #529 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 4:23 pm
When does Victoria expect to start taking international arrivals?
Spray
Good question. Victoria may be a little gun shy right now, but I would have thought Victoria also has a robust tracing system. These weekly national cabinet meetings seem to be when that sort of thing is decided. (Or is it when things get announced?) Maybe we’ll learn next week.
mundo @ #438 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 9:06 am
Occasionally you do post something worth reading.
(Google that one if you want.)
[‘President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. has narrowly won Arizona, capturing the state’s 11 electoral votes and strengthening his Electoral College margin as President Trump continues to make baseless attacks on the vote counts favoring Mr. Biden.
Mr. Biden, whose margin in Arizona is currently about 11,000 votes, or 0.3 percentage points, is the first Democratic presidential candidate to carry the state since President Bill Clinton in 1996. Four years ago, Mr. Trump won the state by 3.5 percentage points.
That Arizona — the home of the late Senator John McCain and Senator Barry Goldwater, a founder of the 20th century conservative political movement and the 1964 Republican presidential nominee — was in play for Democrats at all is remarkable. Before the state voted for Mr. Clinton, the last Democrat it had supported for president was Harry S. Truman in 1948.’]
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/12/us/joe-biden-trump?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
What Trump said about John McCain might have something to do with it.
Late Riser @ #483 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 1:49 pm
Donald Trump’s next career needs to be writing fairy stories. He’ll kill it.
Mavis @ #532 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 4:46 pm
They had a fantastic standard bearer for the Senate in Mark Kelly as well, which would have helped enormously I reckon.
Mavissays: Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:46 pm
[‘President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. has narrowly won Arizona
Late Risersays: Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:49 pm
What Trump said about John McCain might have something to do with it.
Arizona — the home of the late Senator John McCain
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Meghan McCain dunks hard on Trump after networks call Arizona for Joe Biden
Meghan McCain recalled Trump trashing her father for being a prisoner of war in Vietnam.
In light of tonight’s news….
*sorry I had to, the meme is too funny – — Meghan McCain (@MeghanMcCain
Have you heard the news?
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A christmas present for someone you love?
https://twitter.com/AntonyGreenABC/status/1327135087683637249
Antony Green @AntonyGreenABC
Bundaberg re-count sees Labor win by 9 votes, down from 11 on first count. #qldpol #qldvotes
5:23 PM · Nov 13, 2020
https://twitter.com/AntonyGreenABC/status/1327136297618698248
Antony Green @AntonyGreenABC
And Labor wins Nicklin re-count by 85 votes so Labor finishes with 52 seats, four up for on the 2017 election. #qldvotes #qldpol
5:28 PM · Nov 13, 2020
Antony Green @AntonyGreenABC
Bundaberg re-count sees Labor win by 9 votes, down from 11 on first count. #qldpol #qldvotes
You gotta be quick, sometimes ….
That’s gotta suck for the libs.
Get yourself a Bundy and Coke and listen to this as you celebrate Labor’s win in Bundaberg:
https://youtu.be/SNdcFPjGsm8
The bald faced lying and hypocrisy of the Trumpists, laid bare by Chris Cuomo:
https://youtu.be/5pSmwq_13uE
And she wasn’t even a good Speaker.
As Speaker Bronwyn Bishop proved incompetent and hopelessly biased. As with her leadership aspirations in the 1990s, her ambition greatly exceeded her ability. I understand that she appears on Sky TV as a right wing culture warrior. That’s probably the only thing she’s good at.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-13/qld-election-david-crisafulli-new-lnp-leader-challenges/12873474
And that was before the recount. It also neatly book-ends Palaszczuk’s response when asked about the new LNP leader, wtte “I don’t care.”
I’ve missed the announcements, but is Scotty setting up a separate National Emergency C’tee of some sort, so that he can appoint more of his pet Liberals into lucrative positions?
https://www.pollbludger.net/2020/11/12/victorian-poll-queensland-election-groom-by-election/comment-page-11/#comment-3512795
Interesting, I can’t wait for Labor to split left – right and for the Greens – left plus independents get rid of any New Labour like leftovers.
Similarly, the coalition to break up.
And furthermore