The latest fortnightly result from Essential Research has Labor maintaining its 51-49 lead, with the Coalition up one on the primary vote to 41%, Labor steady on 36%, the Greens steady on 10% and One Nation steady on 6%. Also featured are questions on best Liberal and Labor leader: the former finds Malcolm Turnbull on 28%, up four since April, with Julie Bishop down one to 16% and Tony Abbott down one to 10%; the latter has Bill Shorten and Anthony Albanese tied on 19%, which is one point down since August 2017 in Shorten’s case and six points up in Albanese’s, while Tanya Plibersek is down one to 12%.
The poll also has Essential’s occasional question on attributes of the main parties, which are chiefly interesting in having the Liberals up eight points since November 2017 for having “a good team of leaders”, to 45%, and down eight on the obverse question of being “divided”, to 56%. The biggest movements for Labor are a seven point decrease for being “extreme”, to 34%; a five point decrease for being too close to corporate interests, to 37%; and a five point increase for being divided, to 56%.
The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1022; full results can be found here.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/03/critically-ill-refugee-baby-and-parents-to-be-flown-from-nauru-to-sydney-for-care
Disgusting conduct from Dutton… and nothing to be heard from Labor.
Shame on them.
Fess
Between the Koch Bros, the Mercers, Eric Prince and ors, they are doing everything to destroy democratic institutions.
It is that serious
See what Turnbull has seen fit to do by giving his rich mates 450 million dollars and you see where all this is headed
We need to make education and training free for all citizens and ensure sufficient aggregate spending to support full employment. Some of the federal government’s spending should be targeted at direct job creation for the unemployed in a scheme that makes a universal, unconditional offer of a minimum wage job to anyone who wants one. Full employment exists when there are more job vacancies than there are job-seekers.
We don’t need a big skilled migration program. A small skilled migrant intake of ten or twenty thousand per year would be enough. It’s good to get an infusion of skills and ideas from elsewhere. But the immigration program should focus mainly on refugees. There is an ethical reason to accept more people in dire humanitarian need.
A gross migration intake of 70,000 per year (net migration intake of zero) would be fine. Natural increase last year was 166,000. We could have a net migration intake of zero and the population would keep growing for 20 years because of population momentum.
Vic:
I thought Schmidt’s prediction that the next presidential elections will have a thirst for ‘new’ to be interesting. I just hope this doesn’t lead to the Democrats preselecting a ‘star candidate’ who is largely untried and untested on the national stage.
Rex even manages to blame Labor for Dutton’s actions. Amazing.
Steve777 @ #1846 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 2:45 pm
The problem with this is she’s a news journalist. This is not news!
Maybe I lived in a Parallel Universe in 2013; maybe not, because I recall the KRudd promised to “terminate” the “carbon tax” by … bringing forward the carbon price trading system. In other words accelerating the transition period from 3 years to 2 years. That seemed to be a very good idea to me at the time for the following reasons.
After Abbott and a compliant, indeed partisan media – including a culpable CPG, completely fucked up the language of the debate vis “the carbon tax”, which for all her strengths Gillard was not able to neutralise, the debate needed to be reset. Taking advantage of Combet’s breakthrough in adopting and incorporating our carbon pricing scheme with the European scheme already up and running made a 3 year transition totally unnecessary. It’s just a shame that Rudd didn’t roll Gillard in March 2013 because then treasurer Bowen could have included the switch in that year’s budget for it to start on 1 July. That could have completely reset the political narrative leading into the election later tha year. Alas.
But I’m guessing in The Murph’s Parallel Universe that makes Rudd a wrecker alongside Abbott.
Have I missed anything, or gotten my basic facts wrong? Please let me know …
Gary @ #1955 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 6:00 pm
Deserves to be said twice in order to elucidate clearly for all to see Rex Douglas’ modus operandi.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #1956 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 6:25 pm
You’ve missed the chapter where Rudd was an unmitigated undermining “cunt” totally self obsessed and unwilling to support the broad Labor principles he’s always tells us he believed in!
The internal treachery/destruction of the Govt was the inescapable narrative.
thrice.
C@tmomma @ #1958 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 5:59 pm
This article shows how deeply the Turnbulls and the Hughes and the Liberal and National parties are involved with Chinese Property Developers (and for the information of fatheads like Rex Douglas whose constant bleats of Lib-Lab same-same, Labor have a specific clause in their donation rules that excludes money from Property Developers, of any kind):
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/chinese-property-developers-turn-to-liberal-lobbyists-amid-icac-storm-20180802-p4zv7l.html
No wonder Lucy Turnbull was gifted her own plaything called ‘The Greater Sydney Commission’. Paid for by the taxpayer no doubt.
“The internal treachery/destruction of the Govt was the inescapable narrative.”
That may be so, Rex, however will you have the courage and integrity to accept my analysis of what Rudd proposed doing in 2013 upon resuming the Prime Ministership?
Rex is not blaming the ALP for Dutton`s actions, he is criticising the ALP for not criticising Dutton`s actions.
On his radio show, Hadley Snr is forever telling “bleeding heart” magistrates, judges and the DPP to throw the book at the accused. He spends a fair (EDIT) portion of his 2GB show ranting and raving about accused offenders being let off too lightly. Hopefully the judicial system will ignore Hadley in this case, just as they (hopefully) ignore his rants on 2GB.
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Wayne says:
Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 4:06 pm
You all know deep down in your hearts that our great LNP will win the next election by a landslide and our great PM will lead our great nation where if shorten was to get in God help us we will have people drowning at sea and back in to debt
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What is happening to me today. I am replying to Wayne’s posts. Could it be because they moved from “broken record” stage to ignorant stage? or could it be because I responding to Rex posts? or do I have more time on my hands?
However, the reason for above Wayne post is for below sentence:
“if shorten was to get in God help us we will have people drowning at sea and back in to debt”
So who will get back in debt if people drown in sea? If Wayne is implying that the country will get back in debt if people drown, why will we get in debt if people drown? Also, it appears Wayne does not know LNP has doubled the debt in last 5 years.
Tom the first and best @ #1963 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 6:53 pm
And he’s making that assumption based upon the fact that it hasn’t been reported in the media. Not that it hasn’t happened. Or that there aren’t people in Labor actively and persistently campaigning for the refugees and criticising Dutton. Like these 2 groups on the home page of the Refugee Action Coalition:
Labor for Refugees (NSW)
Labor for Refugees (Vic)
http://www.refugeeaction.org.au/
Andrew_Earlwood @ #1699 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 6:53 pm
Don’t you talk about courage and integrity while attempting to polish the actions of team Rudd. You’re funny. 😆
We had a progressive minority Govt that had the broad support of the senate… only for it to be destructed from within all the while in full knowledge that an Abbott Govt, with all its denialism, racism, cruelty and destruction, would be the result.
Courage and integrity indeed.
You are deflecting Rex into RGR Leadershit. I’ll take that as an admission that you have been lying and I’ve caught you out.
So, the answer to my question is obviously, “Rex: no, I possess neither courage or integrity”.
Good to know.
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poroti says:
Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 4:30 pm
Philip Adams on Truffles. Ouch. Use Google trick, pay walled. Outline did not work for me.
But what power, Malcolm? What’s been the point? The purpose? You will go down in history as the invisible man.
Another Malcolm, my old friend Malcolm Muggeridge, once made the deadly observation of David Frost that “he rose without trace”. That will be Turnbull’s political epitaph.
Malcolm Turnbull the invisible man
In Australian politics, camouflage often begins with deceptive packaging. Over the decades, any outfit branding itself Democratic wasn’t – just as One Nation, hinting at harmony, is haven to every imaginable hatred. . And the Liberal Party? Liberal? The Nats, once claiming to be the farmer’s party, are now unashamedly the parliamentary representatives of fossil fuelishness. Only the Hunters and Shooters wear clear IDs. But it is the PM himself who is the champion of chameleons. Yesterday upon the stair we met the man who wasn’t there. No one could accuse Tony Abbott of invisibility, of camouflaging his intentions and ambitions. He advertises them louder than Harvey Norman. But our Malcolm is the master of disguise and duplicity.
I’ve told the story of Kerry Packer introducing me to young Malcolm just back from his Rhodes scholarship at Oxford – “never get between this kid and a pile of money”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/columnists/phillip-adams/malcolm-turnbull-the-invisible-man/news-story/cd9532714ff87a9f13772d6af4ad1862
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The following statement by Philip Adams caught my eye:
“In Australian politics, camouflage often begins with deceptive packaging.”
Recently, I introduced a phrase “Tiger with Cow face”. What it means is that people are deceived because they think that creature is docile like cow. But in reality it is a man-eating Tiger. I derived it from Sanskrit word “GoMukhaVaygra”. Go=Cow; Mukha=faced; Vyagra=Tiger.
Thanks for the Bill Maher link and Steve Schmidt’s chilling expression of America’s democracy in peril. He’s a regular panelist on MSNBC mostly on programs hosted by his former Republican colleague, Nicole Wallace. In one sense, their withering criticism of Trump constitutes atonement for having created and kept viable that prototypical Trumpesque monster on a presidential ticket, Sarah Palin.
As revealed in ‘Game Change’, it became obvious that Palin was in a depressed state and couldn’t survive the Veep debate with Biden. Their solution was to violate not only the format of this debate but a half-century of televised debates. Palin simply brought along cue cards covering the usual debate topics, regardless of how closely these cards might relate to the specific questions she was asked. As luck would have it, most of her answers were not wildly irrelevant, and so the MSM “normalised” this farce (the Fox focus group immediately voting her the winner, of course) instead of alerting Americans to how utterly unfit she was.
This is how Slate.com reviewed Palin’s debate performance: “She said she wasn’t going to answer some of Moderator Gwen Iifil’s questions but then at the end took credit for taking tough questions. I guess that’s what they call chutzpah in Wasilla. Nevertheless, she and her allies will keep up the fight because press-bashing rallies the base in a way that is not unappealing to middle-of-the-road voters.”
Credit where it’s due: Palin didn’t say the press is “the enemy of the people”. It was heaps more effective to delight her campaign rallies with a version of the line that was suggested to Palin in an email from McCain HQ, which included Schmidt. Here’s the line: “This is not a man who sees America as you and I do — as the greatest force for good in the world. This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country.”
And so America began dipping its toe into the Trough of Trumpism.
3,4,3,3: margins in first four completed AFL games this weekend.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #1968 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 7:08 pm
That’s nor!
It’s been explained to you a hundred times Rex. Labor can’t do anything about it until they get back into government.
Anything they say about it now will only be used by the scumbag Liberals to make that task more difficult.
Good call GG. You pedant! lol
Christ, every time you criticise Rex he gets a boner. He’s doing you lot like a dinner.
https://www.pollbludger.net/2018/08/01/essential-research-51-49-labor-4/comment-page-40/#comment-2852163
Labour for Refugees is not an option on the ballot paper for the general voting public but an internal group that does not seem to be getting very far in moving the ALP`s position. People are entitled to judge a party on its policies and statements, even if there are some people within the party who want to change it.
Prof. Higgins
I listen to Schmidt. He was a staunch Republican
He had been the Clarion call for this whole Imbroglio
Well in the opinion of the historian on the panel, that descent happened long before Palin got herself the prospective VP nomination. In her view the descent into Trumpism (racism, sexism, white privilege) began in 1964 presumably with their so-called southern strategy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D38INfcIMro
Tom the first and best @ #1976 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 7:39 pm
I’m sure they’ll be pleased to know that you think their efforts have been fruitless and are thus worthless.
Victoria,
Spot on. No other commentator I’ve heard or read characterises the clear and present danger to America’s democratic republic of Trump’s “fuhrer cult” more cogently than Steve Schmidt.
https://www.pollbludger.net/2018/08/01/essential-research-51-49-labor-4/comment-page-40/#comment-2852200
I am not saying their actions are worthless but that people opposed to they policy they have currently not moved are allowed to criticise the ALP based on the current policy not what Labor for Refugees wants it to be.
Fess,
I was a young American voter in first decade of the Southern Strategy, which was delivered within a John Howard genre of dog whistles. The whistling became louder and more shrill with, say, Reagan’s “welfare queens riding around in Cadillacs”. Imho, Palin was the first candidate on a major party’s presidential ticket to go the mongrel with a bullhorn.
Some of KKeneally’s interesting tweets
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Well, well, well. Let’s have a look at this. And then read my thread, please. #Reefgate
Karl Stefanovic
@karlstefanovic
The @GBRFoundation deserves and will use every cent in its arsenal to save the reef. I’ve no doubt their research into reef dna and conservation is the key. Let’s give them supporting space to prove it.
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Here’s @karlstefanovic on air promoting a report done by Deloitte for the @GBRFoundation in July 2017
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Deloitte is a member of the @GBRFoundation Chairman’s Panel. They pay $20k a year to have their brand associated with the Great Barrier Reef.
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But it gets more interesting. A month before @karlstefanovic interviewed Deloitte on air, The Today Show announced a “We Love Australia” trip to celebrate its 35th anniversary.
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“Karl, Lisa, Richard, Tim and Sylvia’s adventures will begin with a special program showcasing the Great Barrier Reef, broadcast from Hamilton Island in the picturesque Whitsundays.”
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Have a look who sponsored @karlstefanovic ‘s trip to the Great Barrier Reef so he could interview their Chairman’s Panel member Deloitte live on air. Yep. You guessed it. The @GBRFoundation
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So @karlstefanovic – while you are publicly advocating for the @GBRFoundation – would would you like to declare any conflict of interests as well?
Wayne @ #1875 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 3:55 pm
I missed you! You little thruster, you.
Prof Higgins:
Obama as an African American (the first black presidential candidate) was always going to draw the worst excesses of the Republican filth campaigning. It just happened to be Palin who took up the cudgels, but in all honesty, I reckon any other GOP VP candidate would’ve done exactly the same if they’d been in her place.
They’ve been cultivating the racist thing for 50+ year now after all.
Great Barrier Rort seems an apt term. Turnbull disappearing seems to be an underwater incident which can’t be reported.
7.5 degrees here with wind, squally showers, snow on Bluff Knoll and a real feel temp of 0.1 degrees!
#weatheronPB
Fess,
Point taken. Do you reckon Paul Ryan and Romney took up the cudgels against Obama in a similar vein as Palin’s attacks?
This tweet made me laugh
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Michael West
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PM and @GBRFoundation Joint Communique to @karlstefanovic : Karl, shut up
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Steve777 @ #1933 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 5:09 pm
Hmm. I don’t know the bloke, but from comments here it would seem he suffers from a very tight radius of empathy.
Oh well that’s it then. The government is cactus at the next election. For a while there I thought they had a chance.
It would be priceless to see Keneally go on Karl’s show and carve him up like the ham that he is.
Hadley loves to Dish it out but where family is concerned I’ll cut him some slack.
@Prof. Higgins
He’s not even worth calling him a ham, maybe a porkie pig.
Prof. Higgins @ #1994 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 6:20 pm
I think any attacks that were dog whistles against his cultural background were of the same vein. Same as the dog whistles against HClinton for being a woman.
And it bears repeating that when Trump was out there as a candidate saying terrible things about Mexican immigrants, African Americans, his behaviour towards women, where were the majority of Republican leaders? Mostly silent. They still are.
Davidwh @ #6209 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 8:25 pm
David, Trumble’s toddlers have been cactus profundus since the last election.
Zoidlord,
Good one! 🙂
Davidwh @ #1999 Saturday, August 4th, 2018 – 6:27 pm
Live by the sword? Die by the sword.
#nosympathy