The Australian reports the latest Newspoll has Labor leading 53-47, in from 54-46 three weeks ago. The primary votes are Coalition 37% (up two), Labor 38% (steady), Greens 11% (steady) and One Nation 2% (down one). Scott Morrison is down two on approval to 44% and up two on disapproval to 52%, while Anthony Albanese is respectively steady on 37% and up two to 48%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister has been cut from 48-34 to 46-38. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1524.
ItzaDream @ #626 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 7:21 am
I have requested William to provide my email. I will be up in the gods.
Will be picking up my ticket from the box office when I get there. Cheers.
The US is behind in hypersonic technology. It is running behind in AI capacity.
After 4 years of Donald Trump in charge, it’s no surprise. President Biden is seeking to rectify that problem.
OMG! There’s a ‘Peter Dutton Support Group’ on facebook. I despair of Australians sometimes. Especially my parents who sent it to me!
I tell you, the enthusiasm of the Right is non pareil in Australia. Labor need a good theme for people to get excited about too!
What exactly was the Nats promised in the negotiations which were supposed to end in their support for Net Zero/2050? There was a lot of posturing and publicity while they danced about for a couple of weeks to “resolve” the problem.
Now Barnaby says the Nats didn’t sign anything in Glasgow, so they aren’t bound by it, and Canavan says they are now free to encourage more coalmines.
What the hell is going on?
And, without going to the body of the Borewar contribution, I note the final paragraph
“better than 50/50 chance that both sides will wipe each other out completely”
I am reminded of first visiting Hong Kong and the New Territories some 50 years ago
You looked out over fields to where Communist China was
On those fields there were people, in subsistence settings going about their lives
The world consists of people, all going about their lives in an increasingly interconnected world
And the contribution is sides wiping each other out
So who are sides?
So who exactly is going to be “wiped out”?
In the World of today we have organisations starting from the United Nations, treaties and agreements
We have G7 with other Nations on the sidelines – and the G20
We have over 130 Nations being the WHA under the auspices of the WHO
And some talk to sides wiping each other out
lizzie @ #654 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 8:38 am
They promised to stop their active destabilising of Scott Morrison over action to deal with Global Heating for 2 weeks?
C@tmomma at 8:11 am
You needed to tell Rumsfeld that. Pulling out of the treaties and the missiles they could station in Europe meant that that it was becoming a possibility the yanks could stop Russian retaliatory strikes. In other words the end of MAD. The Russian hypersonic stuff was a direct response, such weapons meant that the US anti ballistic missiles would be unable to stop a retaliatory strike. MAD return
Heard Barnaby being interviewed this morning.
Incoherent doesn’t begin to describe it.
Carnations at the ready.
lizzie,
The Nationals “negotiations” on Net-Zero were always a wedge.
The resistance from the Coal Nationals was dog whistling to the pro-coal, anti-net zero voters – who felt betrayed by Murdoch and Liberals – that the Nationals still had their back. Nationals weren’t going to hand over their seats to ON/UAP – both anti-net zero, pro-coal – without a fight.
Liberals can now campaign on their Plan in cities, while Nationals campaign on more coal, more mines, more jobs in the regions.
I suppose others have already pointed out the irony that the Coalition (who used to oppose a carbon tax) are now supporting it, while Labor (who used to support a carbon tax) are now opposing it?
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/morrison-s-dirty-secret-he-s-matched-labor-s-2013-carbon-price-20211115-p5990m
I expect Labor will eventually #MehToo this policy once more – after all, a carbon tax was always the best (and possibly only) way to achieve genuine emissions reductions – but what a ridiculous shambles both the Coalition and the Labor policy flip-flops have become. The only winners of this stupid game are the fossil fuel industries, and the losers are everyone else.
Vote for policies, not parties. Vote Independent.
zoomster @ #658 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 8:23 am
He talks to the base. His hydrogen sulfide is their oxygen.
bakunin
So nothing’s really changed, except that Barnaby seems to be a bit over-excited.
maxsays:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 7:04 am
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Regardless it looks like the protesters had a win. I just want to know what jobs were offered to Meddicks kids in return for his vote.
Simon Katich @ #658 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 8:54 am
Moscow rules: Be carrying a copy of the Articles of Association of the Walcha CWA, open at the page starting “Water stealing is what Gina wants” in your left hand if contact is clear. The pass phrase is ” Beetroot futures look grim”. The safe response is “Da, but uranium is looking up”.
Victoria records 797 new local COVID-19 cases and eight deaths
There are now 14,131 active cases of the virus in Victoria, and 424 people have died in the state during the current Delta outbreak.
There are 394 people in hospital with COVID-19, of whom 72 are in intensive care and 44 are on a ventilator.
The health department said a further 61 people are in intensive care but their COVID-19 infections are no longer considered active.
The new cases were identified from 53,527 test results received yesterday.
There were 7,191 doses of vaccine administered at state-run sites yesterday, as well as more vaccinations at GP clinics and other venues.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-16/victoria-records-new-covid-cases-and-deaths/100623046
Taylormade
No, not really, the changes are pretty much fluff. I don’t seem to recall many chants from the crowd of “Waddawewant ? Reduced timeframes for the release of reasons for pandemic decisions. Wennawewannit ! Now !”
From link
rhwombat @ #665 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 8:32 am
Speed dating; Bludger covert agent style.
So a win win. Kumbaya anyone?
This is inhumane.
If anyone thinks that these protestors are worried about the contents of a pandemic bill, I have a bridge to sell.
These people have become radicalised.
They are qanon nuts aided and abetted by the right wing politicians in this country as well as their compliant media.
It has been an absolute disgusting spectacle.
Imagine if the people who delivered the gallows to the steps of parliament last night was dressed in Muslim attire?
Prince Planet @9.22pm 15/11/21
“this hopeless LNP schemozzle.”
And their lack of transparency !
And their institutionalized fraud !
Simon Katich @ #648 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 8:54 am
Nope. Dandelions, or perhaps a sprig of allocasuarina torulosa. Or maybe eucalyptus agglomerata. Dammit, so many choices, so little time.
Herald Sun had an article on the protestors last night.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/protesters-put-blowup-replica-of-the-premier-on-makeshift-gallows/news-story/641e40c73a98e06a3c5719408cebd442
Link to somewhat incoherent interview with Barnaby on RN Breakfast referred to in earlier posts. It seems to continue from where he left off with PK yesterday.
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/barnaby-joyce-uk-devastate-australian-economy-climate-targets/13632812
yabba @ #673 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 8:53 am
Salsola australis?
Victoria @ #671 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 8:50 am
I posted that I thought the US was both a beacon and a cesspit. I was worried I would get some kickback.
But here is an example. Several US institutions, including the FBI, are all over these home grown radicals. Here?
Simon Katich @ #665 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 9:38 am
Possibly appropriate, but not too common around here. Are you referring to ‘prickly’ or ‘roly-poly’?
West Australian reporting Christian Porter to quit at next election, move to Sydney and go to the Bar.
I have been disgusted with the Victorian liberals from the get go of this pandemic.
It has gone to another level of disgrace.
Will Matthew Guy show some actual spine for once in his life?
@AndyMeddickMP demands OL @MatthewGuyMP publicly admonish his MPs who attended rallies.
“It’s time to step up, or stand down – to 100% renounce the violent rhetoric, to condemn in no uncertain terms ther threats of violence, or rape and death to my colleagues, my friends.” https://t.co/YQ8JwkHW5B
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porotisays:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 8:10 am
C@tmomma at 7:30 am
I could guarantee the Americans are already working on Hypersonic Missiles as well.
They are and the most recent test was a bigly FAIL. they will however get there. It is just the Russians have a big head start.. You need to ask why the Russians went in so hard for hypersonics. For that you can thank Dubya but also Obama and Trump. The US unilaterally pulled out of several nuclear missile treaties/agreements with Russia. There were nutters like Rumsfeld talking about nuclear first strikes and the possibility of “winning” a nuclear war.
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poroti
Rumsfeld talking about nuclear first strikes and the possibility of “winning” a nuclear war.
I read in one of Mathew Reilly books ( I do not remember which book), where hero Jack West Jr went to a South American jungle, there is a paragraph in which he describes how it is motto of American military not to allow other world militaries to dominate. If it comes to that they will rather destroy those countries and get destroyed in the process or something to that effect.
Simon katich
I have said it many times over the duration of this pandemic.
Here in Victoria, the worst aspect of it all has been the Victorian liberals with the help of their federal counterparts and the media.
It has been relentless and they have caused untold damage to the psyche of us all.
I have had a gutful, and this latest incarnation of the pandemic bill bullshit has been disgusting.
It needs to stop.
I just decapitated an Aloe Vera plant with my Whippersnipper! 😯
Anyone in the market for some fresh Aloe Vera, going cheap? 😀
laughtong @ #674 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 9:25 am
There were children at that astroturf ‘protest’. Is that what their parents want them to see?
Rhetorical question. 😐
Vic,
Matthew Guy will do nothing. Just like the Republicans in the US who encourage gullible fools over there to do similar. Or their own Members of Congress who doctor anime videos to show them murdering AOC and stabbing President Biden.
They are no better than Neanderthals. In fact, Neanderthals probably behaved better.
C@t
Recycling Matthew guy as leader tells you how bereft they are of any talent in the Victorian liberal party.
Hence why they have latched onto the neo nazi conspiracy idiots.
They should all resign in shame.
Taylormade @ #664 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 9:01 am
BS. Negotiations were undertaken with Samantha Ratnam, Fiona Patten and Andy Meddick, in an intelligent, adult manner. Something that’s a foreign concept to Liberals I know. 😐
And, noted, that you singled out Andy Meddick, the guy who has been targeted by rabid Liberal and SAD and Murdoch tabloid followers. NOT.
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Top economists see no prolonged high inflation, no rate hike next year, writes Peter Martin.
https://theconversation.com/top-economists-see-no-prolonged-high-inflation-no-rate-hike-next-year-171731
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The way the economies of the countries of the world evolved after COVID Pandemic, the economists who talk about economy like business as usual should be metaphorically hanged from post (like Mike Carlton used to say).
Victoria @ #686 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 10:03 am
And I saw David Davis on the TV yesterday. That guy gives Paul Gosar a run for his money! And the Victorian Liberals think he’s the heir apparent to Guy, if they can get him into the Lower House in Victoria. !?!
I do ponder how the Melbourne Jewish community feel in the face of people likening their opposition to the vaccine bill with sufferers in Nazi camps ???
Frydenberg a lone political voic from the right blasted the protesters.
Condemnation should be coming down hard from all politicians.
C@t
The disdain I have for the current Victorian liberal party has nothing to do with preferring team labor. They are that bad.
This past few weeks has gone to a whole new level of disgusting.
This conduct by the likes of the sky news crowd, Neil Mitchell and the vic liberals is not business as usual,
My youngest has to be in the city today, and she doesn’t feel safe to go because of these neo nazi nut jobs.
Steve Bannon and co have infiltrated Australians and their politics.
Make no mistake.
At 797 Vic cases are the lowest in around 7 weeks. Reff also down to 0.84/0.9 depending on whether you’re a supporter of the Billington Party or the Estermann Party. Given the few days’ decline in a row maybe we’ll dip below 500 before the 90/90 opening up – which will actually be more restrictive for general retail as vax certificates will need to be displayed. Pleasingly NSW Reff also down to 0.9/0.94. NZ Reff also easing down to 1.04 – hopefully below 1 before much longer
lizzie @ #670 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 6:20 am
13 weeks to die.
That’s very compassionate for this mob. 🙁
Victor scholar
It was plain to see where this was all headed.
I observed the difference of how the media reports everything in NSW.
It is not a partisan perspective. It is a reality and it is triggering so many of us.
Enough is enough.
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zoomstersays:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 8:53 am
Heard Barnaby being interviewed this morning.
Incoherent doesn’t begin to describe it
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He was laughing at the end of the interview probably because of his incoherence.
Peddling misinformation by the likes of Bernie Finn, Craig Kelly etc is beyond the pale.
And why is craig kelly getting involved in Victorian politics and not in his own state.
Enough of this shit already!
Victoria says:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 10:17 am
My youngest has to be in the city today, and she doesn’t feel safe to go because of these neo nazi nut jobs.
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I hope she’ll find it’s Ok Victoria. I had to go in last week for the first time in a while. The only evidence of the Liberal party inspired nut jobs i saw was in Spring St on the steps of Parliament when I happened to walk by – and I could have easily taken a different route. In any case there was a gaggle of about 20 on the steps with a loud hailer (with about the same number of constabulary). looking and sounding pretty irrelevant. The rest of the city was quietish but starting to hum again.
Victoria says:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 10:22 am
Enough of this shit already!
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I would’ve thought a Labor partisan would appreciate an unhinged and un-electable Liberal party lead themselves further down the Trump wormhole.
max
She needs to be near Parliament House today and I told her to avoid getting too close.
In any event, we need to understand that the months of advertising by Craig Kelly on behalf of Clive and UAP is all part of the scheme to get preferences for the fiberals.
What is team Labor doing about this crap to counter act it.