The Australian reports the latest Newspoll has Labor leading 53-47, in from 54-46 three weeks ago. The primary votes are Coalition 37% (up two), Labor 38% (steady), Greens 11% (steady) and One Nation 2% (down one). Scott Morrison is down two on approval to 44% and up two on disapproval to 52%, while Anthony Albanese is respectively steady on 37% and up two to 48%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister has been cut from 48-34 to 46-38. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1524.
Which seat will he choose at the bar?
As I said yesterday, I have no issue with people loudly protesting the bill. When protest becomes violent or inciting violence the police need to take appropriate action at various levels. The idiots with the nooses probably just needed a fine (considering the sensitivities of the right to protest and how cracking down on it cuts both ways). Those in the background fermenting violent extremism need more severe reprimand. The state and fed police know who they are.
As for ratbag LNP politicians stoking the fires. I dont know how you deal with it. In an ideal world with a strong independent 4th estate they would become unelectable and the party members would then see them out the door. Instead Liberal politicians seem more emboldened to find new lows.
Prickly Tumbleweeds could be an alternate name for PollBludger.
Simon Katich says:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 10:29 am
The idiots with the nooses probably just needed a fine (considering the sensitivities of the right to protest and how cracking down on it cuts both ways)
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Ah.. So now numbnuts has revised down his punishment from arrest to fines because it could ‘cut both ways’.
Go back and check. You seem to have all the time in the world to do so. I will trust you will be thorough and fair.
A Palmer/Kelly/Folau combination makes sense.
Spot on Cat and Vic!
What is happening in Victoria is an absolute disgrace! Organisations like our newspapers and Mitchell are determined that we are not going to have a government democratically elected!! Amazing!!!
As I wrote the other day these actions are going to end very very badly!!! These organisations are determined to instal a extreme right wing government in Victoria! I fear someone is going to be killed in all this. It is going to be devastating for everyone in our state! Do these National Socialists think that people are just going accept this right wing con job!!!
These people and organisations are inciting this trouble eg Mitchell has been going for years going over the top against Labor and any of their policies and he wants a revolution for the extreme right!!He calls Dan Chairman and Dictator Dan everyday, pays Chinese Communist songs and tells people to go and protest! Why doesn’t he lead them down the street! No way,as he is just a coward behind a computer and microphone.
Victoria says:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 10:26 am
max
She needs to be near Parliament House today and I told her to avoid getting too close.
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What is team Labor doing about this crap to counter act it.
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It’s a bit hard to know if they should do anything. Any response can give it more energy and make it seem less irrelevant than it is. A few days ago GG posted recent Vic polling from Morgan (usual caveats) that suggested the State ALP government’s support is about where it is in 2018 or even up a bit. I suspect that’s erring on the upside. However if the crazies are making a lot of noise but not landing a blow then the government may well think the best strategy is to let them go on bleating, without responding. Infant psychology.
Simon Katich says:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 10:36 am
Go back and check. You seem to have all the time in the world to do so. I will trust you will be thorough and fair.
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If your position is that they get fined, and mine is that it’s probably best to just leave it alone unless there is a specific threat or conspiracy, I don’t think that difference was big enough for you to start with the numbnut insult in the first place.
Player Onesays:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 8:57 am
Vote for policies, not parties. Vote Independent.
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LOL.
Whatever the outcome of the election, how many of those indie policies do you expect to be implemented in full and without compromise P1?
We can all hear you now P1, complaining of being done bent over by your local indie member who will be required to support or oppose an ALP government bill or an LNP government bill nothing like the policy you voted for.
Or maybe if the indie opposes you will be happy. But then that means what you are really voting for is to do nothing.
Numbnut is a term of endearment, possum. Sorry if it hurt your feelings.
Not in Melbourne. Thems Fighting words.
(ˈnʌmˌnʌts) or numbnut (ˈnʌmˌnʌt) derogatory, slang. a foolish or despicable person. Collins English Dictionary.
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The issue is that these threats to kill elected officials being made by these people is normalised, we are getting to a very dark place, which is going to be difficult to control.
But considering your apology I am ready to to put bitterness and sore- headed feelings aside.
Matthew guy has done a presser.
Quelle surprise, he hasn’t risen to the challenge of being a leader. What a pathetic excuse of a human being.
Assuming Mr Porter comes to the Sydney, there are a few things:
(a) someone or ones will need to smooth the way for him to find a workplace;
(b) there could be a the whiff of a fitness issue if his certificate has lapsed and he needs renewal;
(c) he is where it was alleged to have happened.
Has PJK’s response to Hartcher’ s risible Saturday article surfaced yet?
I assume that given the SMH has decided to censor the 1200 word response that they invited Keating to pen that it will eventually surface somewhere else.
I have deliberately held off a detailed reply to the ruminations of messrs Hartcher, Sheridan and IPA young fogie James Paterson until Keating had the opportunity to respond.
I gotta say as bad as Michael O’Brien was as leader, Matthew Guy is much much worse. And that is saying something.
Where are these supposed 2 million French citizens in our region I keep hearing about?
Nah. Vote for a party that can actually implement their policies. 😐
Satan’s stamp duty
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/strewth/satans-stamp-duty/news-story/1a9d959c54509938b71b0a72a97a05cc
I think we can safely say that nath is a snowflake.
‘Greens candidates are typically better sorts than Labor or Liberal candidates’
I wouldn’t know you never hear from them unless they are elected as an Mp which is extremely rarely.
I could imagine there would be alot of calling around trying to fill in canidates in seats. I doubt their ‘preselections’ would have many contested with more then one canidate. Lets face it when you have didly squat chance of winning its not going to be the most appealing job.
nath @ #713 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 10:21 am
Note the conjunction.
If numbnut is a fighting word in Melbourne then you petals need to toughen up. No wonder you will probably only get one player into the ashes 11.
Shellbell
The West Australian says Porter would have to sit the Bar exams, registration for the next February’s exam closes on November 19 and then do 12 months tutelage.
Would his experience as prosecutor in WA not exempt him?
Also says he has “developed a friendship with former NSW barrister Andrew Bell”.
Simon Katich says:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 11:19 am
If numbnut is a fighting word in Melbourne then you petals need to toughen up.
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Hey! What do you think the Melbourne gangland wars were about? the ecstasy trade? No, it all started at a birthday party in Broadmeadows when a member of the Carlton crew called someone a numbnut. 😛
“No one wins a nuclear war. It’s MAD!”
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Which is one of the many reasons why your racist warmongering over China – a nuclear armed country with a far more powerful military than ours – is so insane and shortsighted.
D @ #690 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 10:13 am
In America it’s gotten down to the Jewish Right versus the Jewish Left, and, like the Evangelicals in America, who are prepared to ignore the ungodly things some politicians on their side get up to, in order to get their preferred policies implemented, the Jewish Right are prepared to ignore the allusions to their horrible past at the hands of the White Supremicists if they make a Faustian bargain with them to implement policies that favour the Jewish Right, both in Israel and in America.
Just yesterday, in fact, a group of Anti Vaccine Covidiots stormed into a meeting wearing Yellow Stars. Not as peep of protest that I have seen from the Ultra Orthodox/Jewish Right.
France claims 1.5 million citizens living in the pacific:
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/country-files/asia-and-oceania/the-indo-pacific-region-a-priority-for-france/
I cant see how the actual number is above 500,000 (based on the combined population totals of French Polynesia and New Caledonia. Perhaps there is also an additional million French ex pat citizens living throughout the region: that would make sense, I guess.
I’m not sure how the French citizen living in the pacific estimates got upped to 2 million.
Jeez they make their crims soft in Melbourne.
numb nut
https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/numb%20nuts/Perth%20Region/
“OMG! There’s a ‘Peter Dutton Support Group’ on facebook. I despair of Australians sometimes. Especially my parents who sent it to me!”
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You and the racist potato have a lot in common actually. Both hate the left and both seem pretty keen on a war with China.
“I wouldn’t know you never hear from them unless they are elected as an Mp which is extremely rarely.”
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That’s not on the Greens. You are only hearing what you want to hear.
Simon Katich says:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 11:26 am
numb nut
https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/numb%20nuts/Perth%20Region/
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Fair enough. There must have been a diversion between states in how the word is interpreted.
Andrew_Earlwood says:
Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 11:25 am
I’m not sure how the French citizen living in the pacific estimates got upped to 2 million.
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I think I figured it out. They are adding the almost million population of Reunion, which is in the Indian Ocea, but off the coast of Madagascar.
ReIgnite Australia has Monica Smidt in a prominent position. Famous for filming herself lying her way through police road blocks in 2020 and harassing Bunnings staff
Monica Smidt is a friend of wife of former Liberal leadership hopeful Marcus Bastiaan.
Liberal members of Parliament spoke at last night’s Tiki Torch parade or Ku Klux Klan lynch party in Melbourne held after 10pm
The Liberal Party are an absolute disgrace and unelectable rabble. Even Liberal supporters wonder what life would be like if Liberals had been in charge of Covid response
I think last night’s Kristallnacht reenactment might have cost Katie Allen in Higgins the Jewish vote
Spot on.
“ I think I figured it out. They are adding the almost million population of Reunion, which is in the Indian Ocea, but off the coast of Madagascar.”
That’s a hell of a long way off being in the Pacific.
billie,
They really did that last night!?! The Tiki Torch parade???
Indo/Pacific region, bit of a long bow. I’ve seen it written a lot lately.
https://apnews.com/article/business-asia-europe-france-china-8c1813fa693cb9674e2b3361b2014eb3
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/the-french-australian-submarine-affair-can-it-sink-the-eu-indo-pacific-strategy/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/16/stab-in-the-back-french-fury-australia-scraps-submarine-deal
A_E
It’s the “Indo-Pacific” these days.
Glasgow sabotaged by Scott Morrison
With the final Glasgow pact resolving that coal and gas were on the way out but the world was not on track to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees because 2030 pledges were too weak, the summit will be remembered as one that ScoMo helped sabotage.
But it will also heap pressure on Liberal and Labor next year to lift 2030 targets, and phase out coal and gas.
Quotes attributable to Greens Leader Adam Bandt MP:
“Glasgow was the summit ScoMo helped sabotage, but he doesn’t get off scot free.
“Australia is widely regarded as the villain of the summit.
https://greensmps.org.au/articles/glasgow-sabotaged-scott-morrison
From the Guardian blog
Crowds outside Victoria’s parliament house appear to have become hostile to media, forcing senior 7 News reporter Nick McCallum to retreat up the road.
Heat on Labor and Liberal as 1.5 alive but coal & gas on death row
The Greens have said the next election will be a climate fight with the heat now on Liberal and Labor, after the Glasgow Climate Pact put coal & gas on death row and committed countries to limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees, which will mean Australia taking to next year’s summit 2030 targets of 75% emissions cuts.
However, within hours of signing up to the Glasgow Climate Pact, Angus Taylor has ruled out setting new 2030 targets prior to COP27 in November 2022, which the Pact explicitly requests and urges Australia to do.
Keith Pitt has also used the opportunity post-Glasgow to state that “we won’t be closing mines and closing coal-fired power stations”, in direct contradiction to the Pact’s agreement to accelerate the phase-down of unabated coal power.
All parties to the pact also recognized that the impacts of climate change will be much lower at the temperature increase of 1.5 °C compared with 2 °C and resolved to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5 °C.
The independent Climate Targets Panel has determined that a 74% emissions reduction on 2005 levels is required by 2030 for Australia to do it’s fair share to limit global heating to 1.5°C.
https://greensmps.org.au/articles/heat-labor-and-liberal-15-alive-coal-gas-death-row
Firefox @ #741 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 11:48 am
So if the Greens somehow get a second MHR, will they become twice as useless or half as useless?
This seems to be a very new angle. The officer now in charge of the search does not seem to be very impressed by the original team.
“Crowds outside Victoria’s parliament house ”
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Don’t tell me it’s those far-right anti-vax nutters again. Don’t these people have anything better to do than marching around the streets of Melbourne all day making fools of themselves?
“So if the Greens somehow get a second MHR, will they become twice as useless or half as useless?”
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Only takes one to force real action on climate change, as Bandt did back in 2010 when he was able to get the Greens’ ETS implemented. The Greens have the runs on the board when it comes to taking the climate emergency seriously. Labor and the Coalition on the other hand still have their heads stuck in the coal (sand).
Meanwhile, back in the real world
We have a Contractor on site doing some work outdoors
We have had very little face to face contact including because we have not been at home during the day
But he sent a text yesterday saying he was a close contact of someone in his office who has tested positive and will further advise
As a consequence my wife and I have curtailed our activities pending – just in case
This morning he has sent a text saying he has tested negative but has to isolate for 7 days, being tested on Day 6 and, if still negative, able to resume work on the following day
When he anticipates resuming at our place
The business premises is Tier 1 and shut for 7 days
THAT is how close this virus is – to every human being
And you get this uneducated rabble of right wing nut jobs carrying on as they are
Interesting that the test result came back within 24 hours, easily
So the disruption to my wife and me has been minimal
The Contractor offered that he just cannot understand those objecting to getting vaccinated and mitigating against risk
The obvious question next week will be around the source of the infection and if the office worker was double vaccinated (and, given the Contractor is a Director of the Company I would anticipate ALL employees are double vaccinated including because he did offer that vaccination does not stop the spread – only mitigates against the severity of the symptoms including weakening the virus in transmission)
Firefox @ #749 Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 – 8:58 am
Only one?
Windsor and Oakeshott are imaginary people?