Essential Research is back in business, its first poll for the new year no change on Labor’s 53-47 lead in the final poll last year. Both major parties are on 38% on the primary votes, which is a two-point improvement for Labor and a one-point improvement for the Coalition. Minor party primary votes will have to wait for the publication of the full report later today. In a spirit of seasonal goodwill, monthly leadership ratings find both leaders well up on disapproval – by five points in Morrison’s case to 39%, and four in Shorten’s case to 47% – while Morrison is up one on approval to 42% and Shorten is unchanged on 35%.
As related by The Guardian, further questions mostly focused on the recent far right rally in St Kilda, the most interesting finding being that 48% thought Scott Morrison “demonstrated poor leadership by not immediately condemning the rally, and those who attended it, in stronger terms”, compared with 36% who disagreed. Only 22% thought it appropriate for Senator Fraser Anning to “use taxpayer money to attend the rally”, with 66% saying it was appropriate; 74% felt there was ”no place in Australian society for the use of racist and fascist symbols used by participants in the rally”, whereas 17% were apparently all in favour of them; and that 73% nonetheless felt that “Australians have the right to peacefully protest, no matter how extreme their views”, while 19% didn’t.
The poll also find 63% support for pill testing, although the question was very particular about the specifics, specifying circumstances in which “trained counsellors provide risk-reduction advice informed by on-site laboratory analysis of people’s drugs”.
UPDATE: Full report here. The Greens are down a point to 10%, and One Nation are steady on 7%.
ItzaDream @ #1687 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 1:43 pm
Thanks. I’ll look for it. My revelation on science was reading Feynman, who said, wtte, “What is not surrounded by questions cannot be the truth.”
Put me down for being in favour of changing the date with a suggestion of 27 May, the anniversary of the successful referendum to include Aboriginals in the census.
I find the faux patriotism and nationalism that is increasingly exhibited in the lead-up to and during Australia Day celebrations to be embarrassing, as I do for ANZAC Day. I would very much like for Australia to properly mature as a nation by facing up to it’s history, warts and all.
Re Plimer
Respectable and credible scientists avoid him – just as they avoid “creation scientists” and other practitioners of pseudoscience. So it’s no surprise Plimer only mixes with other crackpots. Plimer’s statement says more about himself than it does about the sensible scientists that he avoids (and who in turn avoid him).
The crunch will probably come when enough unpaid workers deemed “essential” refuse to come into work any more until they are paid. There are reports of more TSA security screening workers calling in sick or saying they cannot afford the journey to work. If enough air traffic controllers don’t come to work, flights could be severely affected.
CNN has a quick check list of what Federal government functions are affected and what might happen as the shut down drags on.
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2019/01/politics/shutdown-effects/
A number of polls show people blame Trump for the shut down.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/its-week-4-of-the-shutdown-americans-still-think-trump-is-to-blame/
The Wentworth Group of Concerned Scientists has been raising concerns about the MDB plan since its inception, as has the Greens Party who accepted the evidence of the experts and the scientists.
The MDB plan was a bipartisan agreement signed into law under the Gillard government in 2012. The political duopoly ignored scientific evidence about the consequences of their plan.
The plan was highly controversial then.
The chickens are coming home to roost.
don @ #1370 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 2:44 pm
Not a one up – however – in the sweet by and by my wife would entertain the fambly (rural spelling today) while I hid in the bedroom. She – kind and loving woman would eventually arrive to inform me “I’ve kicked them out”. She would then add “you coward”.
Zo yew see – in line with Mr. Plimers theorem of abysmal backward downsides – we are so much better served when we …….(zorry zir – I have no idea what I was going to say).
Really good day for air conditioned resting and reading. Watch out for them Nat voting sheep. 🐏🐑 ☮
grimace
“I find the faux patriotism and nationalism that is increasingly exhibited in the lead-up to and during Australia Day celebrations to be embarrassing, as I do for ANZAC Day. I would very much like for Australia to properly mature as a nation by facing up to it’s history, warts and all.”
I agree entirely. Ironically (and unsurprisingly) those who want to shut down any/all discussion about the more unsettling aspects of our history also tend to be the most vocal champions of free speech.
Remember Doggerland? Before the EU there was Doggerland !!
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/maps/doggerland/
Isn’t Plimer the same dickhead who campaigns against the idea that exposure to asbestos causes mesothelioma?
What a disgrace.
Myself: “It is Rex who is anti-democratic…”
Rex: “This is a parody, yes ..?”
I think it’s quite possible, indeed likely, that you genuinely believe that to be the case.
Learn some history
Put me down for a change of date.
citizen. This is something like what I was thinking of. Like a Bad-Advents Calendar, behind each little door there’s a different lump of shit. Thanks.
Rex, anti-democratic – what a laugh.
Those who seem to believe in a one-party state governed by the glorious ALP are the ones who are anti-democratic.
Plimer has waged war on creationists.
Am I correct in thinking that the Greens (especially Di Natale) have virtually abandoned their Australia Day rhetoric this year?
Morrison’s edict to Councils regarding citizenship ceremonies (the date and prescribed dress rules) seems to be the only thing attracting attention.
Shorten has quite rightly refused to be dragged into the argument.
E. G. Theodore @ #1709 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 3:05 pm
I’ve certainly learnt from the last few decades of Lib-Lab govt’s.
Seems you may be a little slow to compute….
The Toorak Toff @ #1714 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 2:10 pm
From the descriptions today it sounds like he lost.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jan/16/greens-wont-let-morrison-force-councils-to-hold-australia-day-citizenship-ceremonies
Late Riser says: Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:07 pm
citizen. This is something like what I was thinking of. Like a Bad-Advents Calendar, behind each little door there’s a different lump of shit. Thanks.
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THANKS citizen – now that we have Late Riser on Trumps case he will be panicking even more that his arse is getting kicked on a daily basis over his moronic vanity wall b/s ….
The BOM just took away tomorrows rain.
It has been a month since it rained in the Adelaide Hills.
“U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, part of a new crop of Democrats swept into office this year on a stronger liberal platform, said she is poised to serve on a key congressional panel overseeing Wall Street, a potential setback for the financial services industry.”
Fantastic. When Cortez was at Uni her father died without a will and the family had to fight court appointed lawyers for years to get the estate. They threatened to foreclose on their home. She had to waitress and her mother cleaned. I look forward to hearing her question bankers.
Late Riser @ #1701 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 2:56 pm
It is years since I read it, and recall only the main point, and for yourself it might well be a case of reinforcing the obvious.
Keeping it local, if I look around and see who are the least progressive and the most certain, the least unable to change, and the most unable to accept, and by extension frightened, of the future and what they don’t understand, I see Howard, Abbott, and Dutton, and anyone who still denies climate change.
Pill testing is another one – look at Gladys squirming around the issue and you see someone gripped by fear (of change). SSM was another.
That was pretty rambling; best I can do at the mo.
phoenixRED, I wish…
ItzaDream @ #1711 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 11:04 am
That’s beautiful, I love these types of maps.
The way they show how the rivers flowed out across the continental shelf and become tributaries of each other.
And how that small ice sheet over western Scotland created some of the most amazing coastline anywhere.
Thanks. 🙂
Pegasus @ #1717 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 3:16 pm
😆
Rex: “I’ve certainly learnt from the last few decades of Lib-Lab govt’s.
Seems you may be a little slow to compute….”
Ludicrous sampling bias, shamelessly proclaimed as virtue.
History is not coterminous with “the last few decades” – that is the path to the world of 1984
Itzadream
If we do not address global warming and Greenland melts, we will be saying the same about Netherlanders as was said about Doggerlanders.
These are the people you dont want on the land:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-26/cotton-grower-pleads-guilty-to-mdb-illegal-pumping/10553990?amp;fbclid=IwAR3UeLpxkTJp6xJALuWGY9lUyNghGCsxHdid1H74e_RoaQo0uIV2ytk0FdM&pfmredir=sm&pfmredir=sm
Pegasus
That is actually a great idea by the Greens.
E. G. Theodore @ #1725 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 3:19 pm
if you say so..
Barney in Go Dau @ #1724 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 3:18 pm
and Norway.
Late Riser says: Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:17 pm
phoenixRED, I wish…
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…….. a mass walkout of all those poor Government people getting screwed by that narcissistic buffoon – shut down the country – people power !!!
Socrates @ #1727 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 3:20 pm
yes, at the least.
Peg,
Rex, anti-democratic – what a laugh.
Those who seem to believe in a one-party state governed by the glorious ALP are the ones who are anti-democratic.
And who would you like to see run the country for the next 50 years. Don’t tell me, don’t tell me…..I think I know.
The Greens Party advocacy for the MDB:
2017: https://greens.org.au/sa/news/media-release/we-must-act-fundamental-flaws-murray-darling-basin-plan-river-flourish
Socrates @ #1720 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 3:16 pm
She’s certainly a breath of fresh air.
Just hope she has some loyal and competent advisors to guide her.
briefly
Those gold tables for import/export are misleading.Russia is big in gold. Both production and holdings. Just ask former PM Turnbull and his former mates n Siberia
gold production in tons
1 China 440
2 Australia 300
3 Russia 255
4 United States 245
Reserve tons
1 United States 8,133.5
2 Germany 3,369.7 6
— International Monetary Fund 2,814.0 N/A
3 Italy 2,451.8
4 France 2,436.0
5 Russia 2,066.2
Gary,
Long time, no see. Another individual boasting he is a mind-reader.
As stated many times here, I want proportional representation in the HoR and multi-party governance.
What do you want?
ItzaDream @ #1734 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 11:22 am
Yes, I haven’t been there to see it first hand, but the Norwegian ice sheet was a little bit more substantial.
Gary @ #1733 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 3:25 pm
At the moment, Tim Storer.
ItzaDream
That was Slartibartfast. He won and award for it.
https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Slartibartfast
Rex Douglas @ #1743 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 11:30 am
A dictatorship, that’s not very democratic! 😆
poroti @ #1741 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 3:32 pm
onya poroti, I hoped someone would.
Speaking of fear, here’s a timely piece by George Monbiot on the fear behind aggressive masculinity and the dangers it brings, including within.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/16/men-masculinity-gillette-advertisement
MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell hails AOC’s historic #WheresMitch quest for Republican leader Mitch McConnell
MSNBC anchor Lawrence O’Donnell on Wednesday offered effusive praise for Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), the youngest woman ever elected to the House of Representatives.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez @AOC
800,000 workers are missing their paychecks and we’re pushing to get them paid ASAP.
We’re here doing our job – the House has voted to reopen government whole or in part several times – so why can’t we find GOP Senators to ask them do theirs? #WheresMitch
Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, who is also known by her initials, AOC, used her massive social media platform for her #WheresMitch search for the Senate Majority Leader.
“In modern politics — in social media politics — with fame comes power, the power to direct media attention where you want it. The power to push a policy position into the national political debate,” O’Donnell noted. “And Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez did that today more effectively than any other member of the House of Representatives could have done it, because of that fame.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/msnbcs-lawrence-odonnell-hails-aocs-historic-wheresmitch-quest-republican-leader-mitch-mcconnell/
ItzaDream @ #1743 Thursday, January 17th, 2019 – 2:48 pm
The word “brittle” springs to mind, often associated with “hard”, and never to be mistaken for “strong”.
Ben Cubby
Verified account @bencubby
1m1 minute ago
‘Possibility of a custodial sentence’: McLachlan granted stay in defamation case https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/possibility-of-a-custodial-sentence-mclachlan-attempts-to-stay-defamation-case-20190117-p50rxa.html … via @smh
This was on SKY and received some nasty messages in response.
“The more we proclaim our strength and dominance, the weaker we reveal ourselves to be.”
A bit like “the more he spoke of his honour, the faster we counted the spoons”.
Which brings us to Scott Morrison declaring himself “Prime Minister for Standards” as the motivation for picking a fight over the date of Australia Day.
If there’s a contest on about the date, put me down for “don’t care”. The Right have taken over and politicised Australia Day and other patriotic symbolism as part of their set of virtue signals, along with climate denial, attacking unions, demonising welfare recipients, devotion to “family values” (not necessarily practicing them), devotion to the military, the flag and the monarchy.
I’ll be ignoring it. In future, a suitable date for celebrating Australia may present itself. The current one is a lost cause.
WARNING: Neo-libs look away !
Socialist utopia 2050: what could life in Australia be like after the failure of capitalism?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/17/socialist-utopia-2050-what-could-life-in-australia-be-like-after-the-failure-of-capitalism