Ipsos: 54-46 to Labor

The final Ipsos poll for the year fails to replicate its unusually strong result for the Coalition last time.

Courtesy of the Fairfax papers, one last Ipsos poll for the year, showing Labor with a two-party lead of 54-46, out from an anomalous 52-48 a month ago. On the primary vote, the Coalition is down one to 36%, Labor up three to 37% and the Greens are steady on 13%. The leaders’ ratings are little changed: Scott Morrison is down one on approval to 47% and up three on disapproval to 39%; Bill Shorten is up one on approval to 41% and down three on disapproval to 50%; and Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister has narrowed from 47-35 to 46-37. The poll also finds opinion evenly divided on Labor’s negative gearing policy, with 43% in favour and 44% opposed, while 48% oppose its related cut in the capital gains tax discount, with 43% in support. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1200.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Jolyon Wagg says:
    Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 11:17 pm
    swamprat

    Before that, the settler/immigrant silly obsesion with being a “republic” is a disgrace as it insults Aboriginal
    This point of view was not articulated in 1999 and I haven’t heard it expressed by an aboriginal person.

    ””

    This is one view (not necessarily mine)
    ———-

    “Early in the new year, Australia embraced ’90s nostalgia. A bloke called Turnbull was talking about a vote on the republic issue, and, alongside retweets of the retro rugby league Winfield Cup account, ’90s platitudes such as “The system is broken. Let’s fix it” appeared in my Twitter timeline. And with constitutional recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people unresolved and the ink barely dry on the government’s rejection of the Uluru reforms, republicans were straight out of the gates declaring an Australian republic was the next referendum. Talk about back to the future. For those not au fait with the relationship between the republican movement and First Peoples in 1999, the two movements were very separate. The least glamorous part of Australian republicanism has always been the question of Aboriginal sovereignty. And it is yet to be reconciled.

    https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2018/april/1522501200/megan-davis/republic-aboriginal-issue

  2. Dan Gulberry says:
    Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 10:57 pm
    zoomster @ #29 Sunday, December 16th, 2018 – 7:53 pm

    Essential reading —

    ‘ If, she argues, you build a society that supports women and doesn’t punish them for having children or devalue their labor, it turns out they’ll be happier and have better sex.’

    https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/12/12/18125659/women-sex-socialism-feminism-kristen-ghodsee?fbclid=IwAR1H754F8MiZQK-200a57q6MMzbBaJEvrGlzyxvg7NKHnXDGwUL-uoIFZDs
    OMG!

    boerwar and briefly will have conniptions about socialists having better sex.

    Yup. I’ve always found that female liberation has been associated with much more and much better sex. This always made a lot of sense to me, even when, as a teenager, I was just another innocent with neither any education nor, inevitably, any experience.

    Sex is interesting. Back in the day, females were supposed by cultural norms to be in some way sexually inert, or at least dependent and without autonomy; possibly to be less capable than males of possessing a sexual appetite or experiencing pleasure; or at least they were expected to conceal their desire; to give intimate effect to the repression that affected them in material, economic, political and cultural terms. This just seemed like nonsense to me as a young bloke – like a denial of our essence – and it still does.

    In any case, female sexuality was subject to a taboo, which was very confusing for a youngster. Male sexuality was stereotyped and mythologised while female sexuality was basically denied, obscured or falsely depicted and mediated. How very perplexing it was.

    Luckily, this has been largely if not yet completely repealed. However, I think sexual taboos still exist, especially in relation to older people. The old are seemingly invisible in many ways, including with respect to their sexuality and the continuing need for intimacy, for physical affection and expression. This is true for both men and women, I reckon. This is not as pronounced as it was, say, 40 years ago. But it is a feature of the culture imo and is reflected in the idea that sexual behaviours, attractions or expectations by older people are somehow improper or offensive. This is crazy. But it is present in the culture.

    Further than this, it seems obvious to me that the repression that is inherent in patriarchy – repression that gives rise to violence as well as to economic, political, cultural and other exploitation – also represses our autonomy, self-expression, freedom and happiness, and that this is likely to be true in every aspect of our existence, including our most private and intimate dimensions as well as in our material lives.

    We need to emancipate ourselves.

  4. Confessions says:
    Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 11:05 pm

    I can say with certainty that both Boerwar and Briefly would support women’s empowerment as a way of lifting socio-economic outcomes for women more generally.

    Cheers fess…. 🙂

  5. briefly
    says:
    as a teenager, I was just another innocent with neither any education nor, inevitably, any experience.
    __________________________
    You poor bastard. 🙂

  6. zoomster says:
    Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 11:01 pm
    briefly

    Their numbers have collapsed up here, too. First time ever there were no Greens handing out at some major booths – couldn’t even manage the traditional bag on the fence.

    In the last federal election I think they failed to have any volunteers at any booths at all in Cowan. They delivered leaflets and left them in boxes, and they put up a couple of posters in the morning. That was it. Their results were desultory at best.

    It will be interesting to see how they go next year. Considering they have become Vic-centric and NSW-centric, I doubt they will have any financial or member resources to put into the campaign. We’ll see.

  8. briefly
    says:
    Monday, December 17, 2018 at 12:02 am
    nath….I have never been boastful about these things…. and have always been an innocent at heart…
    __________________________________
    Mate, that’s a bad start. I was a working class boy and we get to rooting early on. commiserations.

  9. I’ll never forget being 12 and hanging out at the Collingwood Leisure Centre and this 14 year old girl comes up to me and says. ‘wanna root?’. The rest is history.

  10. My origins are also working class….father a self-taught welder, mother a seamstress and dressmaker…first job was as a brickies labourer….$1.10/hr. … I still work in a factory, doing manual tasks; still rely on my physical strength and capacities for my small living.

    You might fancy yourself as a pants-man. Well, good luck with that.

  11. Don’t get too cocky, youse, about how the voters think. What you may believe are seismic political events can often completely bypass the minds of the average punter.

    I was speaking with an old girlfriend the other day at our annual Xmas lunch. She lives nowadays in a multi-million dollar Mosman pile with her multi-millionaire, doting husband. But at heart she is – or fancies herself to be – a good Labor soul.

    Not for her the routine Mosman path of voting for the Member for Warringah. She hates Tony Abbott’s guts. So, at the last election, she made sure she voted for Malcolm Turnbull, not the loathsome Mad Monk.

    She wasn’t fooled by that sinister Bill Shorten either. Taking the Turnbull how-to-vote firmly in her grasp, she recounted proudly to me how she had made sure Malcolm got her vote in both House of Reps and Senate. Cop THAT, bloody Liberals!

    What else could I say but “Good for you!” as I gaped at her in astonishment?

  12. I would have thought Kooyong would be a better seat for Banks, rather than Higgins. Adjacent to Chisholm; very even ALP and Green’s vote (so better chance to come second); and as per the weekend poll + Hawthorn, there looks like a lot of dissatisfaction in Kooyong.

  13. In general,most punters dont give a fuck about politics.It doesnt affect their everyday life as far as they are concerned.How many times have we seen on TV,the “Who the fuck are you?”line at public events the PM or Oppo leader visit.They wouldnt know them from Adam.Policies to do with encryption or moving an Embassy or appointing a new GG or banging on about religious freedom wont change a majority of votes one way or the other.I can just imagine all these subjects being talked about at the average Aussie BBQ over the Xmas/New Year period. Like fuck they will.

    Look at You Tube and see how many views political speeches have in this country.Would be lucky to get a couple of thousand views.There are 15 million voters at least.

    It will take a miracle to change the punters minds in the next 5 months as the disengagement of the average voter is at all time highs and once their minds are made up nowadays they’re very difficult to shift.

    Morrison hasnt got long enough or the nouse to turn any votes around. They have tried every trick in the book and miserably failed. In the words of Tony Burke. They are DOOMED.

  14. Eh?

    David Crowe writes on Ipsos tonite…

    The policy is backed by 60 per cent of Labor voters, 57 per cent of Greens voters but only about one quarter of the voters who support the Coalition or One Nation.

    So, only 60% of Labor voters back Labor’s policy… but that doesn’t affect their vote anyway, because by definition they’re still going to vote Labor.

    And only a quarter of Coalition voters support the policy, but again, that doesn’t matter, because, once again by definition, they’re already voting Coalition anyway.

    Am I therefore wrong in concluding that the negative gearing policy is no kind of reliable indicator as to who anyone will be voting for?

    And that therefore David Crowe’s article, and take on Ipsos, is a crock of shit?

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/ipsos-poll-australians-not-convinced-by-labor-s-flagship-negative-gearing-reforms-20181216-p50mjn.html

  17. My theory of Fairfax Journalism is as follows: to have survived retrenchment and still be employed as any kind of writer about federal politics at Fairfax, you have to ultimately be a Coalition supporter.

    Thus, by not having any Labor columnists, Fairfax have done themselves out of up to 55% of their potential readership, say realistically between 25% and 30%.

    There appears to be a clear opportunity for a large media organisation that leans towards Labor to step up and take a swing.

    Instant audience.

  18. Well, that was interesting. Me sitting in Coral Bay and have earthquake.

    https://earthquakes.ga.gov.au/

    Just spoke to the local DFES dude i know here and him notified already. Apparently waiting for word if tsunami threat as its close and just off shore but no-0ne particularly concerned for now. Me all good as am well up the hill.

  20. Morning all. Bill I am sure you are correct about Fairfax. I cancelled my online subscription (annoyingly difficult) and now support Crikey, Guardian, NYT and the Saturday Paper.

  21. Pontificating Paul Kelly in the SmearStralian provides more detail on Scotty’s adventure into Middle East politics – and concludes it is a stupid folly..

    “Morrison’s retreat at the weekend confirms he should never have raised the option of moving the embassy since the cost to Australia in foreign policy, diplomatic and trade terms would have been substantial and unnecessary.

    The best that can be said is that a grand folly has been avoided. Morrison needed a face-saving fallback and his departmental advisers knew this. There is, however, no national-interest justification in Morrison’s compromise as the expert panel majority recognised. The big test is yet to come: how exactly will Indonesia react?

    The PM’s final position outlined at the weekend to the Sydney Institute is a transparent Band-Aid repair for a bad mistake. Hopefully the Morrison government gets away with it. But Labor has repudiated this decision. It will maintain the status quo — keep the embassy in Tel Aviv and decline to recognise West Jerusalem. If Labor wins the election, the Morrison initiative will become a short-term aberration.

    The expert panel comprised former DFAT head Michael L’Estrange, former DFAT and Defence head Dennis Richardson, former CDF and special envoy Angus Houston, former deputy PM John Anderson and former PM & C head and Washington ambassador, Michael Thawley.

    http://outline.com/M92Bn5

  24. And our Israeli friends are saying that Scotty is a fool, and his Captain’s Call is not what they asked for nor want. So what’s this all about?

    “The Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, said on Saturday that Canberra formally recognised West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, but also reaffirmed his country’s support for a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem under a two-state peace deal.

    Israel’s foreign ministry responded with a tepid statement that called the Australian move “a step in the right direction”. Netanyahu said on Sunday said he had nothing to add to the statement.

    Tzachi Hanegbi, Israel’s minister for regional cooperation and a Netanyahu confidant in the rightwing Likud party, was more openly critical. “To our regret, within this positive news they made a mistake,” he told reporters outside the cabinet room.

    He referred to Canberra as a “deep and intimate friend of many years’ standing”, but added: “There is no division between the east of the city and west of the city. Jerusalem is one whole, united. Israel’s control over it is eternal. Our sovereignty will not be partitioned nor undermined. And we hope Australia will soon find the way to fix the mistake it made.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/16/israel-chides-australias-recognition-of-west-jerusalem-as-capital?CMP=soc_568

  25. And Mahatir says what everyone in the world is thinking…

    BANGKOK (Reuters) – Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad on Sunday criticized Australia’s move to recognise West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, saying countries had “no rights” to do so.

    Australia’s move follows U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv in May, which infuriated Palestinians and the wider Islamic world and upset Western allies.

    “Jerusalem should remain as it is now and not the capital of Israel,” Mahathir told Reuters on the sidelines of an event in Bangkok.

    “Jerusalem has always been under Palestine, so why are they taking the initiative to divide Jerusalem not belonging to them, but to divide the Arabs and the Jews? They have no rights,” he added.

  26. What a disgustingly misleading headline by Fairfax. LNP and ONP hate an ALP policy whilst ALP leads 54-46

    Shanahanesque spin by Crowe. What a disgrace

  27. An Earthquake has to be up into the 7’s magnitude to generate a tsunami of any concern. Still, 5.9 is big for Australia (the Newcastle quake was 5.6).

  28. Nice to learn the truth about The Sydney Institute, but why does Shy Gerard Henderson appear so often on Insiders? He presents nothing except himself.

    Morrison formally recognises West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, Saturday in a talk in Gerry and Anne Henderson’s cosy right wing, corporate-sponsored think tank, The Sydney Institute, which in 1989, former Howard adviser, Gerry lovingly fashioned out of the Sydney branch of the IPA with financial assistance from Philip Morris.

    Two staff members only are employed, Gerard is Executive Director and Anne is Deputy Director. You can see them both in homespun shot as they fiddle with microphones and fetch glasses of water for the useful idiot PM.

    “Foreign policy must speak of our character and our values. What we stand for. What we believe in and, if need be, what we’ll defend,” oleaginous Trump toady Morrison bloviates in yet another pro-US foreign policy speech at the Henderson’s Sydney terrace home, otherwise, grandiosely known to the ATO, as The Sydney Institute.

    https://urbanwronski.com/2018/12/16/dont-lose-sight-of-the-fair-go-bill/

  29. I note that LNP fan Michael posted last night that the number of folks on welfare are dropping, or lowest ever, or something.

    The reason, of course, is the punitive Welfare Dept and the unconscionable treatment by Centrelink, together with the privatisation of services.

    There is so much to repair that it will take at least two terms in govt for Labor even to begin to fix the problems.

  31. The NationalsVerified account
    @The_Nationals ‏
    The Nationals is the only political party that truly stands up for all of regional Australia and its diverse communities.

    Discuss.

  35. Morning all. In terms of socialism and women, there is not all that much evidence that socialism in action in action actually emancipates women all that much. Between babushka street sweepers and horrendous rates of abortion the USSR was not a happy hunting ground, for example. And just take a look at the leadership podiums in any one of all the socialist states. Male. Male. Male.
    In other words, ideological talk is one thing. Reality is another thing. Just ask the environmentalists in the Greens.

    Apart from that, you don’t need an ideology to figure all this out.
    As noted in many of my posts the solution to many,many major social, environmental and economic issues is total equality for women. The shortest distance from A to B in third world countries is the educational, economic and political empowerment of women.
    At a personal level, it is simples:
    Happy wife = happy life. Happy wife = happy sex.
    Happy husband = happy life. Happy husband = happy sex.
    It takes two to tango.

  36. ‘lizzie

    The NationalsVerified account
    @The_Nationals ‏
    The Nationals is the only political party that truly stands up for all of regional Australia and its diverse communities.

    Discuss.’

    They are lying. They screw regional workers. They screw the regional poor. They screw regional Indigenous persons. They screw regional people with global warming.

  37. Boerwar

    I can’t think of anything substantial Nats have done except favour dams and coal, and support Barnaby. Anyone is welcome to correct me.

  38. This is the LNP’s idea of planning for the future? Like, tomorrow. 😆

    Mr Denmore
    ‏ 12h12 hours ago

    Just think. There is some sad, desperate, spotty party hack whose job it is to think about the ‘tactics’ of naming a new Governor General purely to overshadow on the nightly news the opposition’s party conference.

  39. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    Here’s David Crowe’s take on the Ipsos poll.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-government-suffers-another-setback-as-ipsos-poll-points-to-landslide-loss-20181216-p50mjm.html
    On the back of this poll Jennifer Hewett writes that the difficulty for the Coalition is it seems incapable of unifying this range of opposition into any sort of threat to Labor’s dominance and, increasingly, the control of the economic and political narrative.
    https://outline.com/jEEw56
    Tony Walker has a look at what he describes as another wasted year in Australian politics.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/so-that-was-another-wasted-year-in-australian-politics-20181214-p50m8d.html
    The SMH editorial says that the election campaign was well and truly started.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/long-hot-summer-looms-on-political-battlefield-20181216-p50mlf.html
    David Crowe writes about all the problems of his own and his party’s doing that Morrison is trying to fix or neuter.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/time-and-again-morrison-must-fix-problems-the-liberals-created-20181216-p50mjq.html
    The Australian understands that next year’s long-awaited ­return to surplus for 2019-20 will be revised up in today’s budget update from a wafer thin $2.2bn to just over $4bn following significant cuts in spending and higher company tax revenues.
    https://outline.com/UYB2Se
    Tony Wright examines the first day of the ALP conference.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/don-t-blow-this-not-now-bill-shorten-s-message-at-labor-s-quasi-election-launch-20181216-p50mkn.html
    Phil Coorey says that while there will be some screaming and shouting, it was becoming apparent by the end of day one that nothing was going to happen to embarrass the Labor leader so close to the election.
    https://outline.com/GjVJSj
    Katharine Murphy says that Bill Shorten got smart on populism as Labor paints PM as a ‘grinning fool in a baseball cap’.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/16/bill-shorten-gets-smart-on-populism-as-labor-paints-pm-as-a-grinning-fool-in-a-baseball-cap
    It was announced at the conference that Labor will establish national environmental protection agency if it wins the election.
    https://outline.com/4HH24h
    In what Paul Kelly describes as an absurd call Morrison’s retreat at the weekend confirms he should never have raised the option of moving the embassy since the cost to Australia in foreign policy, diplomatic and trade terms would have been substantial and unnecessary.
    https://www.outline.com/M92Bn5
    Ross Gittins declares the ACCC winning watchdog of the year as other agencies lick their wounds.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/accc-wins-watchdog-of-the-year-as-others-lick-their-wounds-20181215-p50mi1.html
    Jenna Price is underwhelmed by Morrison’s choice for our next G-G.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-other-thing-scott-morrison-has-enshrined-with-his-pick-for-g-g-20181216-p50mlb.html
    And so was Alexandra Smith!
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/government-house-has-a-ladies-loo-too-morrison-sticks-with-the-past-20181216-p50mjs.html
    John McDuling tells us that from explosive, leaked emails, to the fall of the digital giants, there are plenty of lessons to be learned from the stories that dominated the media industry in 2018.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/five-things-we-learned-from-australian-media-in-2018-20181216-p50mj6.html
    Bill McKibbin writes that trillions of dollars of investments are being taken out of carbon-intensive companies. Governments must now take notice.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/16/divestment-fossil-fuel-industry-trillions-dollars-investments-carbon
    BHP’s recent half-a-billion-dollar settlement with the Australian tax office would not have been possible without amendments introduced by the former Labor government, the tax office has suggested.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/16/tax-office-suggests-labor-bills-were-essential-to-bhps-500m-settlement
    A former chief justice will investigate how a sadistic Catholic paedophile was shifted from South Australia to NSW, where he wreaked havoc at one of the faith’s finest schools.
    https://outline.com/PHR2y3
    Theresa May will summon EU27 ambassadors to No 10 this week as she continues to seek reassurances over the Irish backstop, with Downing Street vehemently denying drawing up contingency plans for a second referendum.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/16/no-10-denies-making-plans-for-second-brexit-referendum
    And Jaguar Land Rover is planning to announce thousands of job cuts in the new year as part of a £2.5bn savings plan to ward off the threat from Brexit, falling sales in China and a drop in demand for diesel cars.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/16/jaguar-land-rover-to-axe-up-to-5000-jobs
    Bill Shorten has vowed to claw back $5.9 billion of lost superannuation and stop almost one in three South Australians from being underpaid. Opening the party’s national conference in Adelaide on Sunday, Mr Shorten announced superannuation would become part of the national employment standards, if Labor is elected next year.
    https://outline.com/ZAUZ4B
    Nicole Hasham reports that the Department of Home Affairs splashed $132,000 in eight months on motivational speakers including singer Casey Donovan and actor Magda Szubanski, before a budget blowout forced it to drastically cut costs and slash airport staff this Christmas.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/politics/federal/home-affairs-reveals-132-000-spent-on-motivational-speakers-as-it-cuts-airport-staff-20181214-p50mbq.html
    Can playing it safe win Michael Daley the NSW election?
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/17/enough-madness-can-playing-it-safe-win-michael-daley-the-nsw-election
    IOOF is only one step away from forced restructure.
    https://outline.com/WMfHaP
    The government’s youth internship scheme is failing to attract participants and businesses at a staggering rate, despite a $2.5m advertising blitz.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/16/youth-internship-scheme-failing-despite-25m-advertising-blitz
    Mega Gorrey reports that Australia’s “constructive” role at the United Nations climate change talks in Poland was undermined by its continued support for fossil fuels at home.
    https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/missed-opportunity-australia-s-difficult-position-in-un-climate-change-talks-20181216-p50mkf.html
    An increasingly desperate Trump and Giuliani are lashing out at the investigators.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/giuliani-over-my-dead-body-will-mueller-interview-trump-20181217-p50mmo.html
    And adding to Trump’s ennui In its final episode for 2018, Saturday Night Live has prompted him to ponder legal action for what he says is the “real scandal of one-sided coverage”. In a parody of the classic Christmas film It’s a Wonderful Life, the show presented an alternate world where Trump was not elected US leader.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2018/12/17/trump-slams-snl/
    I reckon this mob would qualify for an “Arsehole of the Week” nomination.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/amazon-sacked-assistant-for-asking-to-collect-kids-from-school-20181214-p50m8s.html
    Then again . . .
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/government-staffer-put-on-indefinite-leave-after-sending-vile-text-message-to-female-journalist-20181216-p50mkm.html

    Cartoon Corner

    Mark David bursts into poetry – possibly written in rap cadence.

    And again.

    Matt Golding has some fun with Trump.

    And he looks at the Brexit choices facing the UK.

    What a shocker from Alan Moir!

    A dire warning from Jim Pavlidis.

    Jon Kudelka at the ALP conference.
    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/13a88d8dd465e00ad8ff4f0db429c8f0

  40. It was nice to hear Josh Zepps (son of Henry Szepps, the actor) in his role as Summer Broadcaster for 702 ABC radio this morning, start the demolition of Coalition spin on Labor’s Negative Gearing policy.

    He had an Economics professor from UNSW on the show to analyse just who really benefits from Negative Gearing at present. Was it nurses and police officers on a mere $80,000, as Frydenburg (and Morrison, and Hockey before him) have claimed?

    “No way,” said the prof. He pointed out that “$80,000” is what’s left AFTER the rort is carried out, not what the “investors” start with.

    They START with hundreds of thousands of dollars income usually, then deliberately blow it on property purchases, property maintenance, and interest payments on the loans they take out to purchase those properties, in order to reduce their income to a taxable “$80,000” (or preferably less). By this time they are already paying far less tax on their real income than they would normally pay.

    Then, when the property appreciates in value (which is what they are gambling on), they receive the benefits of concessional tax rates on capital gains made pursuant to the sale of the properties they have negatively geared.

    Josh Zepps put it neatly, asking whether this was “a snake eating its own tail”, with Frydenberg “using the end result to justify the premise?”

    To which the good professor could only agree. Between them, the professor and Josh Zepps demolished the whole foundation of the Coalition’s scare campaign then and there. This was for the benefit of Sydney’s No. 2 breakfast radio audience, so quite a useful exercise.

    What last night’s Ipsos really showed was yet another “end” that justified its premise.

    What it really meant was that even after the Coalition scare campaign, and their deliberate disinformation regarding “honest battlers on $80,000” realizing their dream of owning a modest investment property (or six), and even after a significant proportion of Labor voters who supported leaving Negative Gearing laws unreformed (and a significant proportion of Coalition voters who wanted it reformed) were accounted for, Labor was still streets ahead of the Coalition on voting intention.

    And that was why ScoMo and Josh should be crapping their pants.

  41. nath says:
    Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 11:19 pm
    TPOF
    says:
    Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 11:16 pm
    Michael/wayne/nath
    ____________________
    you have got it wrong. I am only nath. So get a grip, I don’t even comment on economics. Don’t know anything about it.

    Whats special about economics nath? You comment on may other things you know nothing about.

  42. nath says:
    Monday, December 17, 2018 at 12:07 am
    I’ll never forget being 12 and hanging out at the Collingwood Leisure Centre and this 14 year old girl comes up to me and says. ‘wanna root?’. The rest is history.

    In your mid 20s then were you nath?

  43. lizzie says:
    Monday, December 17, 2018 at 7:32 am
    The NationalsVerified account
    @The_Nationals ‏
    The Nationals is the only political party that truly stands up for all of regional Australia and its diverse communities.

    Discuss.

    The old Country Party may have represented rural voters but they gave that up long before they changed their name to Nationals. The Nationals have always represented the big rural corporations not the rural people. It amazes me that they have been able to fool rural voters for as long as they have.

  44. Has Morrisons ICAC been the biggest non-event ”major announcement” (and rightly so) in recent Federal history…..it was dismissed by all, friend and foe, the minute it was announced, and had died a death before the 6PM bulletins.

    It really shows his impotence and irrelevance now.

  49. It’s good to see that our beloved PM has managed to piss off nearly everyone with his Israel contortions.

    What a special talent that truly is!
    🙂

  50. The Daily Telecrap inciting hatred of asylum seekers again:

    “Hundreds of illegal boat people asylum seekers who arrived by boat transferred to Australia for medical treatment are being put up in luxury hotels, with at a least one staying in a hotel for almost three years at taxpayers’ expense.

    The Daily Telegraph has learned The PM’s office has told us the government has spent $1.4 billion on accommodation for medical transferees from Manus Island and Nauru over the past five years and fears costs will soar under Labor-backed changes to soften the nation’s border protection laws.”

    The Telecrap “forgets” to tell us that putting them up in a hotel in an Australian city costs less than it does to keep them in tents on remote islands.

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