One Nation are off two points on the primary vote, from 8% to 6%, but the latest Newspoll is otherwise as dull as it gets. Labor’s lead on two-party preferred is unchanged at 52-48, both major parties are unchanged at 38% on the primary vote, the Greens are up one to 10%. Malcolm Turnbull is up a point on both approval and disapproval, to 40% and 50% respectively; Bill Shorten is down one to 33% and steady on 55%. Turnbull leads 46-31 on preferred prime minister, compared with 47-30 last time. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday, presumably from a sample of about 1600.
Newspoll: 52-48 to Labor
Newspoll returns after three weeks to find the situation all but totally unchanged.
SCOUT @ #488 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 5:40 pm
Because, this is a random event that occurred because the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I agree the perp was a male predator. But, as others have pointed out, if this hadn’t been Ms Dixon, it probably would have been someone else.
I don’t blame Ms Dixon in any way, shape or form.
All I’ve said is that I taught my children to be aware of potential danger and protect themself at all times. Making this crime a platform to espouse “general male violence” rhetoric is an insult to Ms Dixon and does not advance the search for a solution to that broader and more endemic problem imho.
I once got chased by “poofer bashers” seeking to do me harm simply because i was walking past a park in Sydney.
Just as well you weren’t carrying one of these then!
🙂
zoomster @ #496 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 5:49 pm
Well said Zoomster.
It seems more than passing strange that these things still have to be explained over and over again.
boomy1 @ #489 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 5:40 pm
Do you feel an urge to watch Marx Brothers Movies?
Cheers Bemused – not expecting all men to apologize , just that the discussion goes further and men need to listen and understand causes.
I do not believe violence is isolated and learnt from others,.
I strongly believe men yes all men need to change ( including me ) this forum and some of the posts on here enforces that.
An IPA droog on ABC Melbourne radio now in full support of selling the ABC.
Cud Chewer,
You do know those ‘rumours’ usually start in the Liberal Party?
zoomster @ #422 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 5:38 pm
I thought the point was that everyone is entitled to feel safe walking around in public places, regardless of their gender, the size of their party, and the time of day/night. And that nobody is entitled to assault, rape, or murder another person regardless of where that other person happens to be walking, with whom, or when.
And that anyone who does the latter thing is entirely to blame for their actions, and the person who went for a walk is not at all to blame.
It’s much less to do with which gender an imaginary attacker takes on in a person’s irrational fears, and much more to do with the fact that such irrational fears are being accepted, encouraged, and normalized to the point where victims are being chastised for not having let such fears control their lives. To which I can only say… 🙄
It’s exactly the same kind of fear-mongering nonsense that fuels the U.S. style gun nuts. Australia doesn’t need it.
Sounds like Optus is fucking shit too:
https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/world-cup/football-fans-have-continued-to-vent-over-optuss-nightmare-stream/news-story/c8f029d37c3abc3e6e56fc0b8ea46276
And they make you wonder why we wanted Fibre to the Home in the first place.
Only when I’m naked GG.
boomy1 @ #484 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 5:40 pm
No, Hipster. 🙂
@bemused
Labor should mention how IPA is desperate to sell the ABC.
Tatts are so fucking boring.
They are dolphins and pretty fish that turn into whales as the skin expands.
On autism spectrum disorder, people with ASD are not more likely to be violent than those without but there are a group who have problems with serial violence (as there are for those without ASD). People with ASD are more likely to become mass murderers than those without ASD (mainly school spree killings so it is probably only a US thing).
Zoomster
It has been readily acknowledged here that the perpetrators of these terrible crimes are predominantly men. What is your point?
I think Turnbull is pushing the full tax cuts package so hard because he wants to get a double dissolution trigger, so he can be tricky if he needs to…
Shit, NSW government throwing money around like a drunken sailor.
Now that Turnbull has become personally involved in OptusFail, if it goes to shit again I think he will make them put it on SBS as well as on their crappy streaming service. He defunded SBS and killed the NBN so he’s got skin in this game.
Again, talking very small marginal probabilities there, Dio.
The Rev Tom Bayes has a rule about that.
Diogenes @ #513 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 6:00 pm
It only takes one.
As others have pointed out, this is a rare crime. So, running with averages and probabilities doesn’t help understand this particular incident.
adrian @ #511 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 6:03 pm
Polling must be crap. Also, doing so just proves that Labor are the ones with the good ideas, as they are the ones the Coalition are nicking and spending money on.
Yes C@tmomma, but imagine if it were Labor #4356753.
Is road rage more likely from male drivers?
The likelihood scares me.
boomy1 @ #509 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 5:58 pm
Are you naked now?
lizzie @ #522 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 6:09 pm
I thought I was about to be a victim of it one night and it turned out to be a cop.
In some ways that turned out worse.
I’d like to be but it’s cold here right now.
Hey!, thanks for asking.
*cuddle* emoji
Another IPA drone, Chris Berg was on ABC radio Sydney as I left work.
In his ‘bio’ his membership of the IPA was not mentioned.
Why does the ABC continue to give extensive airtime to an organisation dedicated to its eradication?
The following is the story by the wife of US veteran of Korean war. It is dubbed as the “forgotten” war. For this article NK was the creation of US to satisfy Sviet Union. Very interesting reading. Over 30 thousand US soldiers died in this war.
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/1771864
LU
Yes, the numbers are very small. It was 6/75 in a population of 400 million. And people with ASD weren’t more likely to be more violent in any other area.
adrian @ #526 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 6:14 pm
I don’t think the exposure does much for their or the Libs popularity.
Chris Berg is co-author of their book advocating selling the ABC.
In Melbourne we got Simon Breheeny.
May they get much more exposure and their links with the Libs get well publicised.
adrian @ #526 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 6:14 pm
Actually, as a public broadcaster, that’s part of their role.
They just don’t do it very well 🙁
Diogenes says:
Monday, June 18, 2018 at 5:52 pm
A man probably is more likely to be murdered than a woman in bad, poorly-lit areas of a city.
Exactly, it’s about 4 to 1, and the man will be just as dead as the women.
The difference might be because women are a little more careful and don’t go wandering around poorly-lit areas of a city; but that is not what is being argued for here; the argument is for men to change so that women can wander where they please. What is the goal to get the ratio higher than 4 to 1.
If you want to start condemning loosely related groups; every man has a mother; they tend to be women; they need to lift their game. I should add that I think that is as empty an argument as all men should take responsible for the violence of others.
C@tmomma@6:06pm
Don’t you know that if LNP spends money like a “drunken soldier”, it is “good” spending.
Well that didn’t take long.
SBS to take over covering the World Cup for the next 48 hours at least. Big win for Turnbull and SBS; big loss for Optus.
ven
I imagine that there are a few Korean War vets who would have choked on their chokeberries seeing Trump salute an NK officer.
Frozen Chosen came immediately to mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6uupAEKIU
SBS to broadcast all WC matches for the next 48 hours, while Optus try to fix things up.
Football wins
Diogenes @ #533 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 6:22 pm
So, as I posited, they’ve turned it off.
@Diogenes
The biggest losers is us, we paying for both Optus and Telstra networks, while we building a second rate Fraudband.
Ven
This one has better footage of the cold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWr0cTigas
Great news! SBS have quotations from Shorten on their WC web site blaming SBS funding cuts.
What would Reg Saunders have said if he saw this shit.
boomy1 @ #540 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 6:29 pm
Let alone all those parents of deceased soldiers from that conflict that influence Trump’s decisions.
boomy1
Reg had a bit of a reputation for sorting that sort of thing mano-a-mano.
Scout
Because it wouldn’t have. That is obvious and surely an important point to be making when the main aim is to stop these tragedies from happening.
I note from an earlier post that you have a daughter. So do I and I am always on the lookout for matters concerning her safety. That is why I pick her up from the railway station whenever she is coming home in the dark. It is also why I would advise her not to be walking through dark parks alone at 2.30 in the morning.
Just as a matter of interest, what advice would you give your daughter if she said she was going to walk through such a place alone late at night. Go ahead, be your own person, you are entitled to be safe wherever you go? Or would you caution her about the risks?
I posted a general question along those lines earlier today when the discussion first began and almost no-one replied. I wonder why. Hopefully you will be a bit more forthcoming.
The hypocrisy of the Libs to slam the public broadcasters and threaten to ditch them and then turn around and get them to save a private company which could not deliver a national event is breathtaking. And Turnbull will no doubt bask in the reflected glory.
boomy1 @ #525 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 6:14 pm
So, its Das Capital by candle light for you tonight!
Dio
Hypocrisy thy name is Liberals.
BW@6:23pm
Indeed. I think not only Korean vets but vets of other wars and serving US military officers must have choked. (Rumour has it that a lot of US military called sick on that day because of choking 🙂 ) The armtice is still in place. The war has not ended officially. But what did Trump do. He salutes a Korean military officer. Mind boggling.
zoomster @ #486 Monday, June 18th, 2018 – 5:38 pm
+1
I tactfully suggest that GG and Boomy1 repair to another room for further exploration of the touchy feely nexus between the Naked Ape and Das Kapital.