Two polls from Bennelong:
• The Daily Telegraph has a Galaxy poll that has nothing separating John Alexander and Kristina Keneally on two-party preferred. The only primary vote numbers provided are 42% for Alexander and 39% for Keneally. Despite Keneally’s strong showing, only 37% rated that Keneally had done a good job as Premier, compared with 42% for bad job. The poll of 579 respondents was conducted on Wednesday evening, following the announcement of Keneally’s candidacy on Monday.
• A slightly less dramatic result from ReachTEL for the Sydney Morning Herald, with John Alexander leading 53-47 on two-party preferred – which nonetheless indicates a swing of over 6%. The primary votes seem to be a shade under 36% for Alexander and around 29% for Keneally. The poll of 864 respondents was conducted on Thursday evening. Alexander’s personal ratings (51.2% favourable versus 15% unfavourable) are rather stronger than Keneally’s (41.6% to 28.1%), and Malcolm Turnbull records a 59.7-40.3 lead as preferred prime minister.
I looked it up.
meta = self referential, as in critics reviewing critics.
And, praise be, there is an edit function again. Thank you William!
Samantha MaidenVerified account @samanthamaiden
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Liberal’s manager of gov business @cpyne to announce amendments to marriage equality legislation in House of Representatives @SkyNewsAust
Malcolm won’t be happy!
Cheaper and cleaner, oh no!
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/20/replacing-liddell-coal-plant-with-clean-energy-13bn-cheaper-analysis
C@t
I think the Block mechanism has changed now, so try again (if you have C+).
Gary
Let BB tell me what he thinks and I will respond to that.
FWIW I think Cat goes over the top. Like saying DTT has no credibility on anything. I think DTT makes sense at times.
However its not up to me to tell cat how to make her arguments.
That would be me telling her to shut up.
O’Dwyer had no profile when she first ran for office. Back then the Greens had real shot at Higgins but stuffed it up with a dud candidate. And don’t take my word for it, here’s Poss back in the day articulating what a lot of others thought:
https://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2009/10/23/greens-choose-moralising-crypto-communist-for-higgins/
Samantha MaidenVerified account @samanthamaiden
5m5 minutes ago
BREAKING: Parliament will NOT resume on Nov 27 @cpyne announces won’t come back until Dec 4 to deal with SSM
I am glad the edit is back.
With a little time. I changed a reflex response into a more sensible post.
Thank you William for restoring it.
No Barney
I wrote a post that quite obviously and quite deliberately used slang in a fashion to indicate a point. This was not a long post and it SHOULD have been obvious to any High School English teacher.
NO EXCEPTIONS, NO EXCUSES
For what it is worth I am a terrible typist, worse proof reader and I make heaps of errors. By all means quibble on them.
But when I make an obviously ironic comment I do resent being held to account over it as if it were my views.
Sorry BiGD, the only people who look like twats are those who either cannot see the irony or who try to defend those who either through malice, laziness or stupidity misunderstood.
Toodle pip.
Adam GartrellVerified account @adamgartrell
4m4 minutes ago
More Adam Gartrell Retweeted Samantha Maiden
Also means the House citizenship disclosures will be pushed back from Dec 1 to Dec 5 #auspol
Confessions @ #1998 Monday, November 20th, 2017 – 6:35 am
Why don’t they introduce then into the Senate?
If amendments pass in the Reps it will mean delaying the bill as it will have to go back to the Senate.
Arseholes!!!!!!! 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁
Confessions
I do not pretend to have an in-depth knowledge of Clive Hamilton, but if he was the same one who started up the Australia Institute, i think perhaps Possum was being a little harsh.
dtt,
sigh!!!
Barney:
My guess is this is all a delaying tactic to avoid the shit fight that’s threatening to erupt in the partyroom.
Well, I’m one.
Obviously the house running without Barnaby and Alexander has scared Malcolm Turnbull. So prorogue the house it is.
Can labor and the crossbench with enough votes overturn it?
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Kroger on @abcmelbourne. He’s talking absolute bullshit. Libs didn’t run a candidate in #Northcote because they are broke. Donations have dried up. #auspol #springst
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guytaur @ #1988 Monday, November 20th, 2017 – 10:16 am
Federally? On 9% or thereabouts? Don’t be absurd.
Not just Possum, but Kevin Bonham as well:
Yep Turnbull predictably prorogues the HOR. Gutless wonder
Confessions @ #2003 Monday, November 20th, 2017 – 6:41 am
This seems desperate and raises the question;
How many citizenship issues have they uncovered?
He said, she said, they said, blah blah blah……………….
Meanwhile back in the real world I wonder if there will be any movement to or from the govt in Essential tommorow.?
Will they do a Bennelong specific poll ?
Will Turnbull get a YES bounce..?
(..Although he just lost whatever cred he had by naming a Mental As Anything song and attributed it to AC/DC…..lol )
@ Barney – they’re introducing them in the House because they have more numbers there, and are hoping to manufacture the numbers in the Senate because the Senate will be encouraged to wave it through despite the amendments so it can be done by Christmas.
Samantha MaidenVerified account @samanthamaiden
3m3 minutes ago
BREAKING: The Turnbull Government is confirming MPs who may be ineligible WILL vote on marriage before disclosure
:large
Ides of March @ #2015 Monday, November 20th, 2017 – 6:46 am
You have to sit to vote, so no.
Confessions and Big D
Your two posts following each other was good timing. Shows up what bastards the LNP are.
To be honest I am not surprised except on how long it took them to announce them.
I cannot understand why hydrogen is being touted as an alternative fuel. It is very difficult to store at high pressures (it leaks through most ordinary metal containment cylinders because the molecule is so small) .
And at the pointy end you are still burning a fuel with all the inefficiencies inevitably involved, that are negated by using electricity in batteries instead.
And you need to develop a distribution system for the fuel from scratch.
lizzie @ #2002 Monday, November 20th, 2017 – 10:36 am
Thanks, lizzie. 🙂
Briefly
(on the Greens) “there’s condescension and arrogance”
said without a hint of irony.
So does anyone else think there is something that smells very fishy in regard to Parliament not coming back when due..?
The Libs trying to hide….something….delay something…..?
guytaur says:
Monday, November 20, 2017 at 10:38 am
Gary
Let BB tell me what he thinks and I will respond to that.
FWIW I think Cat goes over the top. Like saying DTT has no credibility on anything. I think DTT makes sense at times.
However its not up to me to tell cat how to make her arguments.
That would be me telling her to shut up.
Using your own words then with slight amendments. It’s not up to YOU to tell BB how to make HIS arguments. That would be YOU telling HIM to shut up.
My only point to you is that you are doing exactly what you are accusing BB of doing. Best idea, I believe, is to just to keep out of it altogether which is what I will do now.
guytaur,
I guess you’re right. Donald Trump even says some things that are worthwhile on the odd occasion. 🙂
P1
Federally given current polling Yes I agree.
However that does not mean the Greens are not going to try and increase that vote.
Maybe it will never go up. However as the LNP lies over the decades about the Greens keep coming undone with time I think we will see some National seats go Green.
The sooner the better in my view. I think Christine Milne was right to say the Greens should have a long term strategy to target the Nationals. She could see what Tony Windsor tells us.
The Nationals are not really representing regional communities. I think the Greens if they do the grass roots work can make a difference there. However it is a long term strategy requiring grass roots work.
This is where Di Natale is right to want to remove Rhiannon from the Greens. All the stuff she talks about are exactly what turns Nationals voters off.
Its just a pity Di Natale used poor political judgement and did it over schools
Fess
Parliament will NOT resume on Nov 27 @cpyne announces won’t come back until Dec 4 to deal with SSM
The timing was about ensuring there would be no gay marriages before xmas, now it appears mal has folded to ensure there will be no gay marriage legislation before xmas.
conservatives in the lnp have told mal be the grinch that ruins this last gay free xmas for us and there will be payback, like a bank inquiry.
Song of the day:
https://youtu.be/cFU-FJzPE80
Gary
Thats the problem sometimes. To make a point about being civil to each other we sometimes become hypocrites.
So I am going to like follow your example and take my own advice.
I’ve been ‘telling’ Greens to stop scattergun campaigns and target their efforts to seats that they can win for years. They seem to have finally cottoned on.
On the change to sitting times
JoshButler: wow, just an amazing coincidence that this means the House won’t sit until after the New England by-election and that the government won’t be down a member, just pure coincidence, man what a coincidence twitter.com/KJBar/status/9…
Alabama media company to Roy Moore: Go ahead, sue us — we’d love to air your dirty laundry in court
Alabama Media Group (AMG) — which operates three newspapers and the AL.com website — came out swinging against a lawsuit threat from ousted Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore by rejecting a cease and desist order and all but daring the U.S. Senate candidate and accused child sex predator to sue them.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/alabama-media-company-to-roy-moore-go-ahead-sue-us-wed-love-to-air-your-dirty-laundry-in-court/
AC/DC?
Dirty deeds.. done with sheep!
Zoomster
It makes a certain degree of sense for the Liberals to concede otherwise Labor seats to the Greens because of legislatively pathways, the Greens may vote against you 90% of the time and Labour 70%, but if the Greens vote against Labour (but not you) 5% of the time, that works out as you getting your’re agenda threw 35% of the time instead of 30% , which is a win.
This is a bit less tractable with PHON* because in practice they almost never vote against the Coalition and not also againt Labor. Labor would almost certainly be more willing to concede traditionally National seats to PHON if PHON walked the walk on their economic populism but they don’t , so they don’t really offer anything in terms of additional legislative pathways.
*This is true of Bernadi and his faux-populism too. Their actual voting patterns are indistinguishable from the Liberal right.
srpeatling: Mr Pyne says it has nothing to do with byelections because neither Joyce nor Alexander would be back in Parliament even if they are re-elected.
michaelkoziol: Pyne: “We will sit until marriage equality and citizenship are dealt with.” Flags possible extra sitting week from the 11th of December. #auspol
To think, if I slagged off at dtt in the way she does me, BB would label me as intolerant…
White House riven by fear over Mueller probe: Aides anxiously greet each other, ‘Good morning, are you wired?’
Some officials in President Donald Trump’s White House believe the president’s attorney Ty Cobb when he says that there’s nothing to fear from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of the administration’s ties to Russia.
According to The Washington Post, however, others are skeptical of these reassurances and are becoming increasingly anxious and frightened over their chances of legal jeopardy as the probe closes in.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/white-house-riven-by-fear-over-mueller-probe-aides-anxiously-greet-each-other-good-morning-are-you-wired/
Bernie Sanders on the Republican/Trump Tax Bill:
https://youtu.be/kYiy4bT1-3M
sarahinthesen8: So, because Barnaby Joyce was sloppy with his paperwork the rest of the House of Government takes a holiday? Pathetic.
don, on hydrogen storage:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1369702103009222
https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage
Materials tech is moving on. Multi layer, high pressure composite tanks may be a way to go.
And the infrastructure? I like the approach telsa seem to be taking with their new electric prime mover.
I think its probably MUCH more cost effective to install the initial supporting infrastructure for a commercial application like that than it is to put it in for a “domestic” application like cars. When thats established build the domestic charge points piggybacking off it.
Maybe hydrogen same same? For Australia i see a value in moving to hydrogen / electric hybrid vehicles and infrastructure rather than straight electric for a lot of applications.
Sky News AustraliaVerified account @SkyNewsAust
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.@samanthamaiden: Parliament will now return on Dec 4 and not rise until same sex marriage is dealt with. MORE: http://bit.ly/2zQUIjX