This week’s reading of the Essential Research fortnight rolling average records an unusually solid two-point move in favour of the Coalition on two-party preferred, reducing Labor’s lead to 52-48. Nothing in The Guardian’s report on primary votes, so those will have to wait until later in the day. What we do have in the report is that 65% support a clean energy target, 74% back support for renewable energy and “a majority” support Labor’s goal of 50% renewable energy by 2030. Sixty-one per cent say the government is not doing enough “to ensure affordable, reliable and clean energy” (down from 71% in February), with only 15% saying it is doing enough (steady). Forty-two per cent say Tony Abbott should remain in parliament (down a point since April), with 30% saying he should remain (down two).
The fortnightly YouGov poll maintains the usual peculiarities of the series, most notably a headline two-party figure showing the Coalition with a lead of 51-49, based on low primary votes for the major parties and a strong flow of One Nation preferences to the Coalition (two-thirds, along with 27% of Greens preferences and half of the remainder). With preference flows like those of the 2016 election, Labor would come out about 52.5-47.5 ahead. The primary votes are Coalition 34% (steady), Labor 32% (down one), Greens 11% (steady) and One Nation 11% (up two). The poll also found 67% had voted in the same-sex marriage survey, of whom 61% voted yes and 35% no. The remainder, including the 20% still likely to vote, broke 54% to 28% in favour. Thirty per cent said companies declaring their support for same-sex marriage gave them a more favourable view of their brand, compared with 20% less favourable and 46% no difference.
Other findings: 37% thought the Constitution should be changed to allow dual citizens to run for parliament, with 45% opposed; 56% favoured stricter gun laws, compared with 7% for less strict and 34% for “remain about the same”; and 42% would deem it a bad thing if the government dropped its clean energy targets for 2020, compared with 32% for good thing. Asked to pick out of a list of 16 most important issues for the next election, health came out tops on 44% (though this was down five since August), with unemployment, living standards and the economy next placed on 30% each.
Note also that a Queensland state results from Newspoll came out overnight, which you can read about here.
Citizen @9:46AM.
That unit should be very popular with conservatives across the mnation. None of these namby pamby solar cells.
Some might not check the publication date: 1 April 2017.
Trog
Very necessary to be surrounded by know-nothings when your policies have to satisfy the RWNJs.
BK:
http://www.theshovel.com.au/2017/10/17/energy-policy-australia-to-be-entirely-powered-by-tony-abbotts-bullsht-by-2020/
Confessions @ #104 Tuesday, October 17th, 2017 – 9:27 am
THAT I can believe!
BarackObama: I’m grateful to @SenJohnMcCain for his lifetime of service to our country. Congratulations, John, on receiving this year’s Liberty Medal.
Turnbull. Is a genius. Households are going to save $2.00 per week on energy costs. That will help many householders. They can put the savings towards mortgage repayments. You know it makes sense.
There has been an update. “Energy Policy Target for 2020 Delivered 3 Years Ahead of Schedule.”
poroti:
A bonus is that it’s a 100% renewable resource!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/17/malcolm-turnbull-is-playing-a-losing-hand-on-energy-policy?CMP=soc_568
Why would anyone think she would tell the truth until she’s sure of her future position?
DT readers today won’t learn much of Turnbull’s grand energy plan. It has been swamped by multiple articles on Lisa Wilkinson quitting channel 9.
Not politics, but….HUGE!!!!!!!!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-10-17/colliding-stars-revealed-by-gravitational-waves-and-light/9053750
Consider that a couple of years ago we couldn’t see in this spectrum. Now we can, and we can relate observations to data collected differently. Science, it is grand.
Although on the bad news front, a big raft of plastic waste appears to be washing up on Ningaloo Reef at the moment. 1st word is its 100km long. 🙁
Gov lost its way?
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/10/16/govt-has-lost-its-way–nsw-deputy-premier.html
They both lost their way.
Lizzie
Im pretty sure Abbott would dump Bishop from Deputy and the ministry if he returned to being PM
Lewis
[BK
I’m surprised home peat-fired energy sources were not recommended in the Turnbull/Abbott policy.]
I was going to reply suggesting sh!t as a potential fuel, but I see the Shovel has beat me to it. 🙂
Ides
The thought of a cabinet containing Abbott’s supporters is too much, just too much!
I heard a snippet of Julie Bishop talking to Fran Kelly this morning and when asked how the new energy policy would deliver the savings she was simply HOPELESS!
If the public also comes to the conclusion Abbott is in charge thats 51 Newspoll losses in a row.
BK
Perhaps Julie spends the meetings catching up on her text messages, just like in QT.
imacca
When people look at their jewellery they can now ponder the mind boggling conditions in which the gold/silver/platinum was created and the journey it took to reach them.
interesting
nickharmsen: On the face of it, sounds like the feds are about to adopt an Energy Security Target, like @JayWeatherill’s govt has proposed.
nickharmsen: Here’s an explanation of how it works: pic.twitter.com/4txGyHXUNp
nickharmsen: The net effect is the same as a Clean Energy Target. To incentivise investment in new dispatchable generation.
BK @ #119 Tuesday, October 17th, 2017 – 10:21 am
Situation normal.
Could the government’s new energy policy be described as setting a Dirty Energy Target.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/revelation-of-cosmic-secrets-triggers-a-frenzy-of-global-scientific-activity-20171015-gz1hmw.html
Good article. Gamma Ray bursts from Neutron star collisions then?? 🙂
Essential Report primaries etc. Coal up 1 to 37%, Labor down 2 to 36% , ON up one to 8%, Greens down 1 to 9%, Xen up 1 to 3%, Others steady at 7% All within MOE variation really. Very similar to 4 weeks ago, after which it bounced back to 54:46 for 2 weeks in a row.
http://www.essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport
Lizzie
I dont think Abbott has much support anymore amongst the frontbench. Cormann, Dutton etc are apparently furious with him.
That leaves the backbenchers as potential ministers (Hastie, Abetz, Andrews etc). Thats concerning.
dave @ #125 Tuesday, October 17th, 2017 – 10:25 am
Mes Amis.
Ms Julie Bishop may be all you say and more.
However
Her shoes, gloves and accessories are top of the line.
👠👢 🥊 💎
I have had to mention this previously – when will yewse lot learn ❓
lukehgomes: Might not be a good idea for Joyce to be in the chamber when the decision is handed down, says Anne Twomey pic.twitter.com/zq6ECAkCQ1
LeeLinChinSBS: Don’t worry, I won’t be joining @TheTodayShow. If they can’t afford Lisa, then they sure as hell can’t afford me.
Guytaur
Any idea when decision maybe handed down?
Yabba88 – Essential always seems to have these little feints towards the Libs and then reverts to norm. It is very noticeable, to me, anyway.
[victoria
Guytaur
Any idea when decision maybe handed down?]
shellbell was saying that they usually give 24-48 hours notice.
Energy Minister @JoshFrydenberg has been applauded by party room as he explained the Govt energy plan @SkyNewsAust
If the Liberal Party room likes the plan, it must be crap.
Nope.
I expect due to the different cases in one it will take longer than the postal survey decision.
Mercury @themercurycomau 15m15 minutes ago
Liberal MP for Lyons Mark Shelton has been elected the 39th speaker of the Tasmanian House of Assembly. #politas
lizzie @ #40 Tuesday, October 17th, 2017 – 8:23 am
Hmmmm it has its uses!
When youngest granddaughter was just a few months old, she discovered my stubble while I was holding her. She must have had an itchy scalp as she then proceeded to have a good scratch. And repeated it several times. 🙂
Babies can be smart.
I would prefer that Essential ‘outliers’ looked like 60/40.
Good morning all,
I would bet my bottom dollar Abbott and a few others in the coalition party rooms will not be happy with the continued ” recognition” of renewerables as a power source despite how little Turnbull and Frydenberg are proposing.
Abbott sees this issue just as he saw it in 2009. A defining and stark contrast to Turnbull. He will continue to push for less and less renewerables. Nothing Turnbull offers will satisfy Abbott and it will be interesting to see who else will announce this policy is still not enough.
Turnbull will have a long hard fight on his hands in his own party room even before he has to fight labor.
Cheers.
DrCraigEmerson: One Nation has welcomed the Government’s energy policy and claimed it as its own. Says much, really.
Doyley @11:06 “Turnbull will have a long hard fight on his hands in his own party room even before he has to fight labor.”
Not so sure, if there was cheering in the party room at the announcement of the policy as has been reported. The only ones sulking would be those who believe we need to do something about climate change, and they have no influence.
Nice comment on the guardian live site about energy policy:
Still not much fine detail about the NEG available, but who would have ever thought we would look back on Finkel’s coal-friendly CET and consider it a “lost opportunity”?
P1
The only good thing to come of it is that the LNP are going to be out of government for a long long time.
Xenophon could be the leader of a new right opposition party in a decade.
Steve777…..”The only ones sulking would be those who believe we need to do something about climate change, and they have no influence.”
But they do. It only takes four of them to have a spine, cross the floor and vote it down,or have a “late” lunch with a little bit too much red wine and don’t turn up in the house and the govt doesn’t have the numbers and the govt would fall.
The RWNJ’s will crap themselves if they went to an election now. Wipeout territory.
Sonar
I think we are finding out the “moderate” Liberal is a myth. Unless that means they are moderate in outlook not policy and won’t fight the right.
The truth is out there!
[In between the party room meetings, One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts has been spreading his gems of wisdom amongst the Canberra press gallery.
Despite his leader claiming the credit;
Pauline Hanson @PaulineHansonOz
Good to see the Gov plans to scrap RET & CET like One Nation has been suggesting. About time they joined us in the 21st century. -PH #auspol
5:22 AM – Oct 17, 2017
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Roberts is not a fan.
Now they are not telling everyone that they are actually putting the RET on steroids before they give it the kiss of death. So we are going to have an increase in power prices even more dramatic than we were expecting and then they are going to kill it off. So the government tells us they are going to cut power prices by $115 a year. What they are not telling us is how much power prices will increase until that occurs. So we will see $115 less than what it will be. But what it will be is frightening.”
It must have looked good when he practiced it in the mirror, so Roberts then presents a letter from Malcolm Turnbull, which was written after he sent him “a copy of the Moran report, which was a critique of the Finkel report.” You may have missed the Moran report, but don’t worry, it was published on this climate sceptics blog.
The Finkel report is a highly destructive blueprint for this country and the Moran report tears it to shreds, absolutely destroys it. The Finkel report is based on lies. And the Turnbull government is now continuing to tells lies about climate and it raises more questions, how the hell are they are going to comply with the Paris Accord without renewables, so what are they going to do? They need to come clean, we have got three words into the vocabulary of this country. We have affordability into the energy debate, due to our work, reliability into the energy debate due to our work, we have security into the energy debate, due to our work and we’re going to introduce a fourth word–truth. Because I have been pursuing the CSIRO for the last 12 months and they have not got what they claim they had. And I’ll be talking more about that in the next few weeks.”
So there you have it. The master of empirical evidence, who apparently couldn’t work out an email address, or fully understand his citizenship history has the climate debate sorted. Obviously there is no need to continue with this today, we can all go home.]
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2017/oct/17/coalitions-energy-policy-is-here-now-for-the-sell-politics-live
“…It only takes four of them to have a spine, cross the floor and vote it down”
Crossing the floor would be a career-ending move, not to mention deprivation of post-retirement sinecures. This lot have tolerated the trashing of climate and energy policy for 8 years (and counting), were happy to pretent that the risible Direct Inaction was a serious attempt to reduce emissions and, in another area, caved on the absurd fake plebiscite when there was much less at stake.
Four Government MPs who both believe we need to do something about climate change and who also have a spine? I don’t think so.