Today’s Daily Telegraph has a YouGov poll showing 46% support for a yes vote in a referendum on an indigenous voice compared with 30% for no, with 24% undecided. Support was at 61% among Labor voters, 31% among Coalition voters and 72% among the small sample of Greens voters. Sixty-eight per cent rated that the government had done a poor job of explaining how the voice would work, with no detail provided on other responses. The poll was conducted online “last week” from a sample of 1069. UPDATE: The poll was limited to New South Wales.
Other than that, the only bit of recent polling I’m aware of is the return of Roy Morgan’s weekly update video and its regular serving of thin gruel on federal voting intention. This records Labor’s two-party lead at 59.5-40.5, out from 58.5-41.5 before the summer break, and a notably wide gap from a series that had found Labor with relatively modest leads for much of last year.
Also:
• Following the death on Tuesday of New South Wales Liberal Senator Jim Molan, reports suggest the front-runner to succeed him is fellow conservative Dallas McInerney, chief executive of Catholic Schools NSW. However, Max Maddison of The Australian reports some moderates believe the faction should try to poach the seat for one of their own, the chief contenders being defeated Wentworth MP Dave Sharma, unsuccessful Gilmore candidate Andrew Constance and thwarted Warringah preselection hopeful Jane Buncle. Tony Abbott has ruled out a suggestion by former Victorian state party president Michael Kroger that the position should go to him, although Dennis Shanahan of The Australian today reports that would be open to a lower house seat if it had “overwhelming support” in the party.
• Matthew Knott of the Sydney Morning Herald reported on Thursday that moderates were urging Marise Payne to create a second New South Wales Senate vacancy by retiring shortly after the March state election, potentially to be succeeded by Fiona Martin, who lost her seat of Reid at the federal election last year; Gisele Kapterian, former staffer to Julie Bishop and Michaelia Cash; or Maria Kovacic, state party president and unsuccessful federal candidate for Parramatta. Dennis Shanahan of The Australian reported today that Payne has “told colleagues she does not intend to retire”.
• Lydia Lynch of The Australian reported yesterday on a “push within Queensland’s Liberal National Party to bring former Senator Amanda Stoker back into the fold”, with the suggestion that she might topple lower-profile incumbent Paul Scarr to gain the top position on the Senate ticket at the next election. With the second place on the ticket reserved for the Nationals, and no suggestion in the report that a position might become available in the lower house, the only other possibility would be for her to again take third place. This was a losing proposition for her at last year’s election and would also require her to depose an incumbent, in this case ideological fringe dweller Gerard Rennick.
So this week the public servants get the blow torch.
Next week we have Rachelle Miller – to explain Minister Tudge’s messaging ‘you will wind up in jail you welfare cheat asswipes..’’ or wtte. Ms Miller may add additional commentary on Tudge’s thinking 🙂
Mr Tudge gets to answer the next day.
And then Minister Christian Porter – who was defrocked as Attorney General (and future PM) – and demoted to Minister of DSS. He inherited RoboDebt shitstorm. Let’s hope he is ready to shed some light on PM Scomo response to the debacle…
Rex Douglas says:
Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 6:02 pm
Griff @ #1921 Wednesday, January 25th, 2023 – 5:51 pm
zoomster @ Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 5:07 pm
Thorpe: “Labor has asserted through our negotiations that Sovereignty isn’t impacted. It’s not enough. It needs to be explicit.”
This might be a sticking point. I wonder what Thorpe will accept.
You sound like a used car salesman.
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Hey Rex. Tell us again that claims Thorpe opposes the Voice are a ‘false narrative’.
You sound like a ‘useful idiot’
timbo @ #1919 Wednesday, January 25th, 2023 – 5:49 pm
Not so cocky now…
de Burgh now struggling to justify why fairness is a justifiable criteria.. the only defence he can raise is “that it was war & I was just following orders “
Mr De Burgh was Branch Manager of the Pensions and Integrity Branch. The next branch along the corridor was, presumably, the Funny Walks Branch.
andrwmk
I would not over egg the ‘useful’ aspect.
Herald Sun 25/01
No wonder Prime Minister Anthony Albanese stole into town without warning, without taking a journalist or cameraman, without touring anywhere publicly, and without giving a press conference until it was too late to make most TV news bulletins.
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No cameraman.
So that’s why we didn’t get the Akubra shot.
He normally loves putting that on whenever he travels to the outback or a regional area.
Sorry Boerwar. You’re right. I must be “concern trolling” – whatever that is.
It’s just that… you see… I actually have a life outside pollbludger.net and I don’t live on the internet, nor do I feel the need to act like a keyboard warrior to strangers I’ve never met. I work in an office (I’m not sure if you know this, but working in an office means I have a job and earn money) and I’ve personally observed some of my colleagues’ opinions change on the matter of the voice, hence why I was checking in to see what other people thought. But you go ahead. Continue to aspire to be the Rita Panahi on here. You’re entertaining at least. I’ll disappear so that my “concern trolling” doesn’t bother you and you can continue to live in your little box.
Scepticsays:
Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 5:59 pm
de Burgh is constructing an artificial excuse …
Just wondering if this was an oblique reference to de Burghs Bridge. A descendant, perhaps?
Ernest de Burgh – Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Ernest_de_Burgh
Ernest Macartney de Burgh was an Irish-born Australian civil engineer, chief-engineer for … De Burghs Bridge over the Lane Cove River, Sydney, is named after him.
Four years ago whilst staying in Bendigo and walking past the Bendigo Chinese Museum one day in broad daylight and no-one else around I was literally ambushed and threatened by 2 local aboriginals (one had a huge gash in his cheek I remember). Luckily I was able to talk my way out of it.
I will still vote for the voice.
I look forward to Thorpe simultaneously campaigning against the Voice and then if it falls to claim that its failure demonstrates Australia is a racist country.
Got no time for wreckers and she’s a wrecker. Nothing constructive. This isn’t even letting the perfect be the enemy of the good like the Greens on the ESG.
Taylormade @ #1957 Wednesday, January 25th, 2023 – 6:44 pm
Unlike your favourite Prime Minister Morrison who had to dress up for everything and have a slew of cameras following him – pilot, crane driver, nurse, ambo, wanker – you name it.
‘Mr Mysterious says:
Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 6:45 pm
Sorry Boerwar. You’re right. …’
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That’s OK. No need to apologize.
Her Honour is sharpening her knife.
‘Dr John says:
Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 6:47 pm
Four years ago whilst staying in Bendigo and walking past the Bendigo Chinese Museum one day in broad daylight and no-one else around I was literally ambushed and threatened by 2 local aboriginals (one had a huge gash in his cheek I remember). Luckily I was able to talk my way out of it.
I will still vote for the voice.’
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When I was in the Territory I received real threats of being bashed or being murdered from both Indigenous and non-Indigenous people. I can tell you that with 100% certainty that if the threat is real it has a destructive emotional and psychological impact. It is never right.
And good on you for voting Yes!
Arky @ #1962 Wednesday, January 25th, 2023 – 6:51 pm
You’d be pretty filthy with the 40% of Labor voters who aren’t committed to the Yes vote then …?
‘BK says:
Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 6:56 pm
Her Honour is sharpening her knife.’
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They do a very finely judged double team effort, IMO.
The top 3 sponsors of Australian open are KIA, Emirates and Guojiao 1573.
Just saying.
Commissioner Holmes just pulled a “what is this f**kwit rambling on about?” face.
Griff
Salesperson. My bad.
OS
Yep. LOL.
Russell de Burgh, ex DSS SES, is being publicly schooled in the rudiments of reading comprehension.
They do a very finely judged double team effort, IMO.
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Poetry in motion, Boerwar.
Bob Who is going to the Upper House! Just announced.
6pm in Brisbane and the Royal Commission grilling continues.
Gillard wore a jacket.
Albanese did not wear an akubra.
Morrison wore a hawaiian shirt.
Fraser wore no pants.
Howard wore an akubra.
Abbott wore genitalia-revealing swimmers.
Spot the pattern!
LOL
You can read the first dot point if you like….
We’ve reached the point when De Burgh says he doesn’t know if he agrees or disagrees.
He should wave the white flag.
BW: Rudd wore chambray and chinos.
It would be a pleasure one day to see a compilation of the Commissioner’s facial expressions at crucial points of evidence. So much expressed without a word.
Do KCs earn time and a half after 6pm?
She is priceless, BL!
Dr John @ #1961 Wednesday, January 25th, 2023 – 6:47 pm
Those people weren’t born like that.
So what’s brought them to do that ?
The man called Bob gets the Job!
(Even though you are supposed to be General Secretary for 5 years before getting into the lollies)
The Australian sharemarket has closed lower after a choppy day as inflation hit a peak of 7.8 per cent, its highest since 1990, making more interest rate rises likely.
The most significant price rises were Domestic holiday travel and accommodation (+13.3%), Electricity (+8.6%), International holiday travel and accommodation (+7.6%) and New dwelling purchase by owner occupiers (+1.7%).
It’s obvious.. it’s all Qantas’s fault
Rex the whataboutism trying to compare ordinary voters to someone in a leadership position in a major party is tiresome. I leave it to Greens or Liberals to complain that voters got it wrong.
When Morrison got elected on the back of the death tax bullshit among other things I didn’t blame voters for falling for it, I blame the Liberals for promulgating a lie, media for giving them a free pass on it and Labor for ineffectively dealing with it.
Cross-examining Mr de Burgh is like trying to nail mercury to the wall.
The commissioner continues to tell Russell De Burgh , what the decision maker is making is not true
Rex Douglassays:
Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 7:07 pm
Dr John @ #1961 Wednesday, January 25th, 2023 – 6:47 pm
Four years ago whilst staying in Bendigo and walking past the CBD Chinese Museum one day in broad daylight and no-one else around I was literally ambushed and threatened by 2 local aboriginals (one had a huge gash in his cheek I remember). Luckily I was able to talk my way out of it.
I will still vote the voice.
Those people weren’t born like that.
So what’s brought them to do that ?
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I’d say for one of them drugs.
“I leave it to Greens or Liberals to complain that voters got it wrong.”
Of course voters get it wrong, they got Hitler wrong, they got Trump wrong, they got Abbott wrong. Voters get it wrong all the time.
In a democracy, voters aren’t correct necessarily, they just get what they deserve.
With the anecdotes of engagement with First Nations people – I must say that all my many such interactions with Aboriginal friends, work colleagues and acquaintances has been nothing short of pleasant and courteous.
“When Morrison got elected on the back of the death tax bullshit among other things I didn’t blame voters for falling for it, I blame the Liberals for promulgating a lie, media for giving them a free pass on it and Labor for ineffectively dealing with it.”
You can blame whomever you like, you can pretend that voters in Australia haven’t voted consistently racist, so much so that racism is now a bipartisan accepted baseline, but you are missing pretty important parts of a society with the idiotic superficial stuff you are doing.
And OC Bob was slotted in above the female next in line on the ticket – Sarah Jane Kaine
Dr John @ #1990 Wednesday, January 25th, 2023 – 7:13 pm
That’s deep man.
Russell de Burgh has been caught out here comes the document
Russell de Burgh is now shellshocked
Who is next to sip from the chalice?
Well, I’m only watching and I am about to pour myself a (moderate) Scotch. Don’t know about the participants (combatants?) today.
And on an extremely shallow note, may I say I have much admired Mr Greggery’s choice of ties yesterday and today. I know….
Edit: Naughtily added final sentence.
“Rex Douglas says:
Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 6:56 pm
You’d be pretty filthy with the 40% of Labor voters who aren’t committed to the Yes vote then …?”… Including those who are still undecided?…. Meh!
On the other hand, there are 27% of Coalition voters who are definitely or probably going to vote Yes. Are you okay with that?
I’d missed the news about the PwC partner that upset the treasurer and the Tax Practitioners Board.
He obviously lacks ethics, but last time I had a beer with him in Adelaide I got the impression he was a good guy. Clearly I’m not good at impressions. He was great at international tax, but knowing exactly what treasury was doing probably helped him.
Edit ex-PwC partner.