The Herald-Sun reported on Monday on a “privately conducted” Victorian state poll by YouGov that showed Labor maintaining a commanding 55-45 lead on two-party preferred, from primary votes of Labor 44%, Coalition 40% and Greens 11%. This compares with 57.3-42.7 at Labor’s landslide win in 2018, when the primary votes were Labor 42.9%, Coalition 35.2% and Greens 10.7%. Personal ratings are good for Daniel Andrews (65% approval and 32% disapproval) and disastrous for Liberal leader Michael O’Brien (26% approval and 53% disapproval).
The poll nonetheless found that 55% thought it fair to hold Daniel Andrews responsible for the second COVID-19 wave, compared with 40% for not fair. Fifty per cent believed Andrews had been honest and transparent about the hotel quarantine failure against 43% for not honest and transparent; 53% said Victoria was heading in the right direction versus 39% who said it is “time for change”. The poll was conducted from October 29 to November from a sample of 1241.
UPDATE: Now a Roy Morgan poll gives Labor a lead of 58.5-41.5, up from 51.5-48.5 a month ago, from primary votes of Labor 45% (up five), Coalition 34.5% (down 5.5) and Greens 11% (up two). Daniel Andrews’ approval rating split is out from 59-41 to 71-29. The poll was conducted by SMS on Monday and Tuesday from a sample of 818.
In real election news, the Electoral Commission of Queensland has been completing preference distributions for the October 31 state election, and while the numbers haven’t been officially published, Antony Green relates that luck has favoured Labor in the final preference distributions in Bundaberg and Nicklin. These seats have been gained from the LNP with respective margins of 11 and 79 votes, pending LNP requests for recounts.
Confirmation of these results would leave Labor with 52 seats in a parliament of 93, a net gain of four compared with the 2017 result. South Brisbane was lost to the Greens (6.0% margin, 9.5% swing), while five were gained from the LNP Bundaberg (by a 0.0% margin with a 4.2% swing), Nicklin (a 0.1% margin and a 5.4% swing), Caloundra (a 2.5% margin and a 5.9% swing), Hervey Bay (a 2.2% margin and an 11.3% swing) and Pumicestone (a 5.1% margin and a 6.0% swing). These are Labor’s first ever wins in Nicklin and Caloundra, both of which are on the Sunshine Coast.
The LNP is duly reduced from 38 seats to 33, unless you count their recovery of Whitsunday after its previous member was expelled from the party mid-term. Their one piece of good news from late counting was that they managed to retain the Gold Coast seat of Currumbin by 310 votes, a 0.3% margin against a swing to Labor of 3.0% (David Crisafulli will be chosen as the party’s new leader unopposed at a party room meeting today). South Brisbane increases the Greens from one to two, with the party having easily its 2017 gain of Maiwar from the LNP, while Katter’s Australian Party and One Nation achieved status quo results of three seats and one respectively, as did independents with Sandy Bolton comfortably retaining Noosa.
Official results are naturally available from the ECQ; the numbers on my live results facility are emphatically not official, in that I have preserved them as they were a week ago before the ECQ removed the indicative two-candidate preferred counts. This means both the booth-level two-candidate preferred results and preference flow by candidate breakdowns are preserved, albeit in not entirely complete form.
Finally, while the attention of most of us has been firmly elsewhere, the process for the November 28 Groom by-election has continued chugging along, with nominations having been declared last Friday. The by-election has attracted a remarkably thin field of four candidates, which somewhat to my surprise includes one from Labor: Chris Meibusch, a community lawyer and unsuccessful candidate for the Toowoomba mayoralty in March. The preselection of LNP candidate Garth Hamilton was related here. The other two candidates are from the Liberal Democrats and Sustainable Australia – as well as there being no One Nation presence, this must be the first time a while that the Greens have left a federal contest uncontested.
Has Sensitive Jim commented on Joel ? anyone know ?
I think it’s good practice to apply a Walter Mitty adjustment to c@ts reminiscences shell bell.
shellbell @ #1258 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 6:56 am
Manly may not be an ex-penal colony, but it is outside the Heads.
shellbell @ #326 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 6:56 am
Woops! That was the special once weekly trip through the heads and back that Sydney Ferries used to do.
So, how do you get to Manly again?
Thank you, rhwombat. They also used to do that special trip once a week for tourists.
I suppose every blog needs a Doubting Thomas.
Good morning Dawn Patrollers
Rob Harris writes that Labor MPs have lashed out at their colleague amid a bitter spat over climate policy, which threatens to further destabilise Anthony Albanese’s leadership. It’s getting a bit nasty.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-mps-round-on-joel-fitzgibbon-as-climate-spat-turns-nasty-20201112-p56e3m.html
Where there’s Joel Fitzgibbon, there’s always fire, says Phil Coorey.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/where-there-s-joel-fitzgibbon-there-s-always-fire-20201111-p56dr8
Joel Fitzgibbon’s departure may have been in the works anyway, but his insurgency is dangerous for Anthony Albanese, writes Katharine Murphy who thinks Albanese’s problems are just starting.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/12/fitzgibbons-antics-point-to-the-question-bubbling-in-labor-ranks-can-albanese-win
David Crowe says that just one day after Scott Morrison tried to bury the past, it came back with a force that is impossible to ignore.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/ghosts-of-the-past-come-back-to-haunt-pm-20201112-p56e2f.html
Michelle Grattan hops in after Fitzgibbon’s departure by saying that it’s unsurprising that Anthony Albanese is looking over his shoulder, because last term he was sitting on Bill Shorten’s shoulder, waiting for an opportunity to strike.
https://theconversation.com/grattan-on-friday-labors-joel-fitzgibbon-waves-the-lightsaber-149908
The editorial in The Canberra Times declares that the government’s welfare cut is an exercise in self-delusion.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7007805/welfare-cut-is-an-exercise-in-self-delusion/?cs=14258
Workers over the age of 35 are now more likely to fall victim to an oncoming wave of institutionalised ageism in hiring and human resources practices brought on by the advent of an approved JobMaker scheme in the federal Parliament, the Australian Council of Trade Unions warned yesterday.
https://theaimn.com/jobmaker-backflip-leaves-older-workers-exposed-says-actu/
The cashless debit card has had “no substantive impact” on crime, gambling and drug and alcohol abuse in one of the trial sites the government wants to make permanent, according to a new study described by Luke Henriques-Gomes.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/13/cashless-welfare-card-has-little-impact-on-gambling-drug-and-alcohol-abuse-study-finds
A coalition of anti-poverty groups, unions, construction industry bodies and the multibillion-dollar heft of the industry super sector have come together to try to fix Australia’s biggest housing problem. It’s social housing explains Daniel Ziffer.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/property/2020/11/12/social-housing-coronavirus-recovery/
And the editorial in The Age says that the lines of what is acceptable are blurred, but male politicians should start to take more seriously the concerns of women.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/risks-of-ministerial-affairs-justify-public-scrutiny-20201112-p56e6m.html
What constitutes a sackable offence for any man in the Morrison Government? Michelle Pini reports on recent “bonk ban” transgressions.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/some-bonk-ban-ministers-in-the-sack-morrison-wont-sack,14508
Caitlin Fitzsimmons explains how older workers are now discovering that insecure work is the new normal.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/older-workers-discover-insecure-work-is-the-new-normal-20201103-p56b5q.html
Scott Morrison has used his first conversation with US President-elect Joe Biden to stress the importance of American engagement in the Indo-Pacific and to seek his co-operation in maintaining global order by restoring the status of key institutions and multilateral bodies such as the G20, reports Phil Coorey.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/pm-embraces-biden-suga-amid-acute-regional-threat-20201112-p56dvf
Lucy Cormack reports that the NSW upper house has voted to refer Premier Gladys Berejiklian to the corruption watchdog for failing to report her relationship with disgraced former MP Daryl Maguire, but it fell well short of being approved by the lower house.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/upper-house-votes-for-premier-gladys-berejiklian-to-be-referred-to-icac-20201112-p56e23.html
Nick McKenzie, Chris Masters and Anthony Galloway tell us that, with ten SAS soldiers under investigation, the Prime Minister has warned of “brutal truths” to be aired in a war crimes report due to be released next week.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/ten-sas-soldiers-under-investigation-by-war-crimes-investigators-over-12-afghan-deaths-20201112-p56e4a.html
Paul Brereton’s investigation of war crimes allegedly committed by Australian special forces soldiers in Afghanistan will confirm that atrocities were committed. And it will deeply shock the nation, writes Brendan Nicholson.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/defence/war-crimes-inquiry-the-atrocities-committed-will-deeply-shock-the-nation/news-story/50c254a52afed9886a2d07253acba601
Australia is in for a shock as war crimes investigation brings reality of war to the Anzac myth, writes Paul Daley.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/13/australia-is-in-for-a-shock-as-war-crimes-investigation-brings-reality-of-war-to-the-anzac-myth
Sally Whyte writes that experts are warning that the war crimes response must ‘tease apart poisoned threads without destroying the material’.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7010508/rotten-at-the-core-alleged-war-crimes-response-must-be-careful/?cs=14350
Mike Perkins examines the BOM’s latest State of the Climate report and finds that Australia is already experiencing climate change and the future holds more extreme fire seasons and “big weather” events such as major flooding, severe cyclones and long-lasting droughts. And it’s going to get worse.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/climate-change-is-already-here-major-scientific-report-20201112-p56dyl.html
Professor Richard Holden believes that a global carbon price could soon be a reality and says that Australia should prepare for it.
https://theconversation.com/vital-signs-a-global-carbon-price-could-soon-be-a-reality-australia-should-prepare-149919
Katie Burgess says that the BOM report will put the federal government under pressure to commit to emission reduction.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7010033/warning-puts-pressure-on-govt-to-commit-to-emission-reduction/?cs=14350
Greenpeace’s David Ritter writes that more and more businesses are demonstrating how Morrison and his government are being left behind when it comes to climate change.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/when-your-supermarket-s-setting-a-green-energy-target-you-know-it-means-business-20201112-p56e0g.html
Mike Foley explains how wholesale electricity prices have been falling across the nation following an influx of cheap renewable energy into the grid, a slump in domestic power demand as offices, small businesses and factories temporarily shut, and reduced international demand for Australia’s gas exports.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/coronavirus-shutdowns-renewables-drive-low-wholesale-power-prices-20201112-p56e5b.html
Record numbers of large-scale renewable energy generators have been connected to the grid in Victoria over the past year, eclipsing every other state in the national energy market, reports Miki Perkin.
https://www.theage.com.au/environment/climate-change/victoria-plugs-in-record-number-of-renewable-energy-generators-20201112-p56dyj.html
Future-focused industries, unique innovation hubs and world-class infrastructure turn globally connected South Australia into a hugely attractive proposition, writes Rosanne Barrett in The Australian.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/special-reports/future-adelaide/adelaide-a-safe-place-for-business-to-grow/news-story/e9da08324b86332c5c91e943634b1d37
Many companies have been exposed for failing to meet community expectations, and some have paid the price for boards lacking key skills, writes Sally Patten for the AFR.
https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/directors-count-the-cost-of-corporate-failure-20201105-p56but
Shane Wright tells us that legal action against criminals selling illicit cigarettes would be ramped up and overseen by Home Affairs under proposals from a parliamentary committee that warns rising tobacco excise rates are driving more smokers to the black market.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/illicit-tobacco-disaster-tougher-laws-aired-as-high-prices-hit-smoker-habits-20201112-p56e46.html
John Faine posits that conspiracies find strength when foundations are shaken. He says that if civil society is to emerge stronger from this pandemic we need to understand how deeply the foundations have been shaken.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/conspiracies-find-strength-when-foundations-are-shaken-20201111-p56dns.html
Long-time Hong Kong resident Paul Letters expresses sadness, beginning his contribution with, “For Hong Kong, this isn’t the beginning of the end; it is the end. Political freedom in Hong Kong has expired”.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/a-prayer-for-hong-kong-it-s-political-freedom-just-expired-20201112-p56e32.html
Patrick Hatch’s report into the Crown Casino inquiry indicates that Packer’s lawyers have thrown the gaoled executives under the bus.
https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/packer-s-lawyers-say-crown-executives-to-blame-for-china-arrest-20201112-p56e1n.html
The AFR’s Ronald Mitzen explains how a bitter legal dispute between the owners of controversial security firm Paladin has revealed the company’s strategy to minimise tax and discussions of sending profits to tax havens.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/bitter-litigation-reveals-paladin-tax-strategy-20201030-p56a2k
What a line the Queensland public is being sold. Taxpayers look like picking up the tab for a significant part of the Dalrymple Bay Coal Terminal when it is listed on the ASX. Yet much of the terminal’s value relies on a favourable ruling from another branch of the Queensland government – the competition regulator. Michael West reports.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/doing-a-bondy-qld-privatised-dalrymple-coal-now-buys-back-when-its-too-late/
Stephen Bartholomeusz wonders if, with Biden’s victory, there could be an and to the Trump trade wars in sight.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/with-biden-taking-charge-is-an-end-to-the-trump-trade-wars-in-sight-20201112-p56dza.html
Suspended Labor MP Shaoquett Moselmane had his party membership reinstated just months after the Australian Federal Police raided his home and office.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/not-a-suspect-moselmane-reinstated-with-labor-party-months-after-afp-raids-20201112-p56e69.html
Elizabeth Knight says that the prospect of the telco giant separating its valuable infrastructure assets from its core business, and the likelihood it would reward shareholders with some kind of capital return set the pulses racing and the share price running yesterday.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/telstra-shareholders-can-now-smell-money-20201112-p56e3s.html
A major shake-up of the Pentagon’s civilian leadership has thrust top military officers into a fraught position amid mounting concerns that the White House could use a chaotic transition period to push through potentially destabilising decisions – or even attempt to block the handover to a Biden administration.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/fears-at-the-pentagon-about-the-orders-of-all-the-president-s-men-20201112-p56e3x.html
The daily tally of coronavirus cases in the US surpassed 145,000, and the surge is being driven to a significant degree by casual occasions that may feel deceptively safe.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/at-dinner-parties-and-game-nights-casual-american-life-fuels-covid-19-surge-20201113-p56e83.html
America’s patchwork election system could learn from Australia, explains Farrah Tomalin. He’s not wrong – but it would never get a chance over there!
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/america-s-patchwork-election-system-could-learn-from-australia-20201112-p56e3v.html
According to John Bolton, the more Republican leaders coddle Donald Trump’s stolen victory delusions, the less likely he is to act as a normal president – and accept the election result for the good of his country and party.
https://www.afr.com/world/north-america/trump-is-trashing-the-republican-brand-20201112-p56dwv
Options for Donald Trump after losing the U.S. Presidency include moving to form a continuing extremist political movement based on personality, even dynastic with his politically-driven children in leading roles, writes Lee Duffield.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/donald-trump-is-still-good-for-troublemaking-,14507
Republicans aren’t conceding – and Democrats are bringing a knife to a gun fight, laments David Sirota.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/12/trump-election-concede-republicans-democrats
The London Telegraph’s Ambrose Evans-Pritchard thinks that Joe Biden may be the best thing that ever happened for Brexit. It’s a very interesting contribution.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/joe-biden-may-be-the-best-thing-that-ever-happened-for-brexit-20201112-p56dun.html
Republicans’ willingness to align themselves with Trump’s attacks on the election offers a preview for Biden of what may be to come once he takes office.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/gop-lets-doubt-about-biden-s-resounding-victory-flourish-for-a-reason-20201112-p56dxg.html
Cartoon Corner
Cathy Wilcox
David Rowe
Matt Golding
Mark David
Peter Broelman
Glen Le Lievre (a gif)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1326759128274890752
John Spooner
Alan Moir
Simon Letch
Andrew Dyson
John Shakespeare
From the US
This article by David Sirota, Bernie Sanders’ former speechwriter and a Guardian columnist, is spot on:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/12/trump-election-concede-republicans-democrats
Even PNG has introduced a federal ICAC this week that will be more robust than the sham Porter is overseeing!
shellbell @ #349 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 6:56 am
Manly ferries used to go Sydney to Newcastle return every weekend.
shellbell @ #350 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 6:56 am
Back in the day (early 60’s) Sydney ferries used to do summer weekend excursions to Broken Bay etc. Full wet bar included plus the snack bar etc for us kids.
Maybe it was c@ts great uncle who was steering you on these youthful nautical adventures Dave ?
This is good news and a ray of hope that Trump, Barr and Pompeo won’t succeed with their cutthroat plan:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/biden-moves-forward-as-top-democrats-blast-republican-post-election-shenanigans-20201113-p56e85.html
You learn something every day.
Mrs Shellbell and I caught a water taxi from our wedding breakfast which went across the heads after a week of rain and wind. Almost a very short marriage.
The Sydney Ferries in service back in the 60’s were built on the Clyde IIRC and were sailed to Australia under their own steam (they had diesel engines).
Morning all and thanks BK. In a further sign that Trump’s attempt to steal the US election is shifting from a serious legal assault to trying a token effort to win public opinion for later campaigns, major law firms are withdrawing from representing him, fearing damage to their reputation and businesses.
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/11/fancy-big-law-firm-decides-shilling-for-fascism-not-worth-the-headache
dave @ #366 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 6:53 am
Curl Curl and Dee Why were indeed built in Glasgow, built by Napier and Miller. They did indeed steam to Sydney under their own power.
South Steyne was built at Leith, near Edinburgh.
Good morning from a rainy Newcastle.
Thanks BK for today’s Dawn Patrol.
Today’s Glen Le Lievre GIF
Going to the address shown –
https://twitter.com/i/status/1326759128274890752
Will show –
and clicking the address arrowed will show, by scrolling down, the GIF in complete format -from which the address can be extracted by right clicking and clicking “image location”.
to which can be added #image.jpg
Just an exercise in obtaining a post-able image. A thousand pardon for wasting valuable time which could be better employed contemplating —
C@tmomma @ #360 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 7:24 am
They have had an independent Ombudsman overseeing a pretty comprehensive Leadership Code for close to 40 years. Mixed results but probably stopped some corruption in the earlier days.
These days corruption is endemic. Crims in the Police Force but not everyone. You have to pay “Tea Money” etc to get most things done, most PS paid a pittance and the vast majority of the population have little employment and bugger all money.
“AJM, you are profoundly naive about the extent of corruption that happens in our political system on an ongoing basis. It isn’t just the criminal acts that occasionally get publicized. The vast majority of the corruption is legal under the laws as they stand. That doesn’t make these practices any less corrosive of the system.”
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Well said. Most of the indoctrinated members of the establishment flock are totally oblivious to the ongoing corruption and “legal” (completely unethical) rorting of the system that is going on under their noses.
Is it that they are blissfully ignorant? I’m sure some are – we would all like to believe that the politicians we elect will always act ethically and abide by the law, but that’s just not realistic at all.
Then there are those who turn a blind eye to corruption on their own side of the duopoly and convince themselves that it’s just the other side who are in the wrong. They themselves are being as unethical as the corrupt politicians they blindly support.
The fact that the Lib/Lab estab teamed up multiple times for over a decade to block the Greens attempts to setup a Federal ICAC says it all. They opted to protect each other and sweep it all under the carpet instead of holding themselves to a higher standard.
Thanks KayJay – I knew you’d come through!
Victoria records another day with no new coronavirus cases, no new deaths
Victoria’s 14-day rolling average has hit what seemed like an unreachable milestone not long ago after the state recorded a fortnight on no new cases.
Victoria’s 14-day rolling average has dropped to zero after the state recorded a fortnight on no new cases.
The Department of Health and Human Services confirmed the state’s 14th straight day of zero new cases and no deaths on Friday morning.
The number of active cases remains steady at three, while there is just one infection from an unknown source.
A total of 12,001 tests results were received in the past 24 hours, down from 20,819 on Thursday.
The last positive cases of coronavirus in Victoria were on October 30 when four infections were recorded.
Victoria hasn’t recorded 14 or more consecutive days of zero new COVID-19 cases since between February 1 and 21.
While we’re at it, we might also need to change the line “for those who’ve come across the seas we’ve boundless plains to share”, because the reality is that if you happen to be an asylum seeker who comes across the seas you’ll be marooned on a remote island by the abhorrent Lib/Lab human rights abusers.
Aqualung @4:50am
This video sums up my thoughts about hyperloop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h6Cz4hwuEI
“No one bothers trying to get lots of people onto their mass transport system. That would totally ruin the aesthetics!”
Firefox @ #374 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 8:37 am
How about we change “… we’ve boundless plains to share …” to “… we’ve groundless pain to share …”?
BK @ #372 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 8:27 am
Cripes BK –taking a well earned break from doing my occasional bedding washing and drying – a glimpse of the Poll Bludger comments and
“Fuck me” says I. “Muriel – round up the teddy bears, yes, all of them – we have a “mentioned in despatches”.
It’s a pleasure to do business with you BK . I can’t think of anything else to assist with the Dawn Patrol. Later today I will list the various programs I use to construct my “Fairy Tales”.
BTW did you get access to the ASX web site ❓
https://www2.asx.com.au/
☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕
A different aspect for those who all mocked “little Britain” for wanting to cast off the shackles of the EU. That’s not to say the Tories haven’t mucked up the exit.
https://www.theage.com.au/business/the-economy/joe-biden-may-be-the-best-thing-that-ever-happened-for-brexit-20201112-p56dun.html
C@tmomma @ #354 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 7:02 am
My take on this : you don’t go through the heads to get to Manly; you go past the heads, and I remember when the seas were ‘up’ Dad would take me there (Manly) and back to feel ‘the roll’ from the swells that took the ferry side on as you went past the heads, in the days when you could peer down into the engine room, all polished brass, watching pistons at work. There was a Sunday ferry that did go through the heads and out to sea, called iirc “The Showboat”, with music on board. These were the days when the great Catalina sea planes / flying boats to Lord Howe Island would take off and land on the harbour, at all times depending on the tides at Lord Howe, for landing on the lagoon.
If (as has been reported) Trump intends to set up a rival cable network to Fox News subsequent to his ejection from the WH, there’s certainly no evidence that the presenters have changed their spots other than, from his perspective, calling Arizona prematurely. Further, if he achieves his fiendish plan, at least he would’ve done something useful in his miserable life. It’ll be a hoot to see the “Make America Great Again” network attempt to outdo Fox News.
we’ve groundless pain to share…. perfect!
As a bunch of whingers who are the richest people in the world ( by average personal wealth along with Switzerland) in the richest moment in human history, this line could not be better.
A useful twitter feed for keeping count of some of the LNP corruption issues….my head spins trying to keep up with them all!!
Access Disrupt@AccessDisrupt
Firefox
“for those who’ve come across the seas we’ve boundless plains to share”,
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It’s interesting that you did not notice the national commitment to unending growth in that line….. “boundless plains”, indeed!
It’s tantamount to having the denial of climate change as a national ideology.
I suppose it reflects the preoccupations of the modern “green”.
Came across this –
https://youtu.be/SHglo_N7P_Y?
Probably wistful thinking, but interesting.
Comments under the video very supportive.
The Collins Street peregrine falcons have flown the coop! At 6:02 and 7:15 am
I was listening to an interview earlier and the interviewee made a good point on this. Trump won’t want the work that comes from running a network. He’s more likely to monetise out his name for naming rights of a network so he rakes in the moolah without having to do any of the work. This sounds plausible to me based on what we’ve seen of the Trump family.
Mavis @ #380 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 9:07 am
On the contrary, I think the spots have changed. Fox for example, like many networks, cut away from McEnany spewing lies about electoral fraud saying they could not in good conscience continue to cover it. (I posted the video clip somewhere or other on one of the many thread running at the mo). As ridiculous as this might sound, Fox was at least some filter on Trump. His own network, most likely via social media, off a base of 70 million, would be another step beyond protoFascism. I find the idea terrifying.
I think that everybody should be taught all the verses of Advance Australia Fair and the history and modifications of the current 2 official verses. The Dirge isn’t much of a tune either to be honest.
Re Itza Dream @8:59. Brings back memories.
Alpha Zero @ #388 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 9:18 am
It’s not, but it’s streets ahead of the God-awful dirge we grew up with.
“If (as has been reported) Trump intends to set up a rival cable network to Fox News subsequent to his ejection from the WH, there’s certainly no evidence that the presenters have changed their spots other than, from his perspective, calling Arizona prematurely. Further, if he achieves his fiendish plan, at least he would’ve done something useful in his miserable life. It’ll be a hoot to see the “Make America Great Again” network attempt to outdo Fox News.”
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There was lots of speculation that he was going to do exactly this after 2016 had he lost.
Fox and “MAGA TV” being as vile as possible in their competition to scrape the deplorable dregs off the bottom of the barrel is not something that we should be looking forward to. Another far-right conservative propaganda machine is the last thing the world needs right now. They will stoop to even deeper lows and whip their audiences into even more of a hysterical frenzy than they already are in the quest for higher ratings.
Confessions @ #386 Friday, November 13th, 2020 – 9:15 am
Something like One America News Network –
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/08/media/one-america-news-trump/index.html
(edit: word America added)
‘I suppose it reflects the preoccupations of the modern “green”.’
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Because we are totally unable to speak out against abhorrent human rights abuses while fighting to protect the environment at the same time. Please.
Confessions:
Friday, November 13, 2020 at 9:15 am
Given Trump’s so indolent, that’s on the cards. He’ll probably poach Fox News’s most shameless presenters – Hannity, Carlson, Gutfield.
Itza:
Definitely a digital platform: cheaper and quicker to scale up. The interview also discussed what this would do for Fox’s audience because they can never be Trumpy enough for Trumpists.
Re Alpha Zero @9:18.
We could include the second, third and fourth verses of the original:
– Cook was borne on by British courage, Britannia rules the waves
– With our English heritage, with some Scottish and Irish thrown in, we’ll rise to renown (what about the Welsh?)
– if any foreigners invade, we’ll kick their behinds out of the country and show we’re as good as the British.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair
Was fortunate enough to live on the Harbourside in Manly for 14 years and would see where the ferry was to judge my run down to the wharf. Those terrifying trips through the heads…I was eventually able to guess the ferocity of the waves against the cliffs and take a bus instead. My young grandchildren took great pride in being able to name each one from a distance and the emotional impact of those gorgeous vessels has been underrated.
Like the Star Ferry in HongKong, they feel authentic and a lovely trip back in time where you can look over the side of the ferry to see the odd whale. They are excellent with restless young kids who love to walk around in the fresh air.
As a now regular rivercat user, I can vouch that they are utilitarian and lack anticipation.
A massive loss, not unlike getting rid of the old trams.
Is Trump allowed to run a company, whilst in jail?
Here’s some soft chat on Trump, Fox, and new media
(The Damage Report)
https://youtu.be/lb5yhaseyD0
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/politics-podcast-why-polls-were-off-in-2020-and-why-they-werent-that-bad/