The second Newspoll of the Scott Morrison era is no better for the Coalition than the first, with Labor maintaining its 56-44 lead. As reported in The Australian, both major parties are up a point on the primary vote, Labor to 42% and the Coalition to 34%. The minor party primary votes are still to come (UPDATE: Greens steady on 10%, One Nation down one to 6%). Newspoll skipped the personal ratings questions a fortnight ago, so its results this week are the first ever for Morrison, and the first in four weeks for Bill Shorten. Morrison is on 41% approval and 39% disapproval, while Shorten is up five on approval to 37% and down five on disapproval to 51%. However, Shorten has not replicated the 39-33 lead he recorded on preferred prime minister in the immediate wake of the leadership change, and now trails 42-36. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1653.
poroti @ #686 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 6:19 pm
“I don’t have the email with me but I’m happy to table it“
Greens senator Rachel Siewert has introduced a bill to the Senate to raise the Newstart allowance by $75 a week:
More Virtue Signalling by The Greens in time for their next newsletter?
Dutton claimed he had no more relationship with the guy than that they, along with five thousand plus others, had served in the police force together twenty years ago.
If the guy doesn’t even have to establish some kind of connection with Dutton, but can address him by his first name and assume he’ll know who he is, then he had a closer relationship than that, and Dutton is lying.
It doesn’t have to be a close relationship for this to be so, just one where the guy is more significant that the bulk of the five thousand others.
I have (through facebook) re established relationships with people I haven’t seen for thirty years. Most have been based on immediate and mutual recognition. Then there’s been others who’ve approached me who I didn’t remember at all – and their approaches showed that they knew that I wouldn’t, because they started with “You won’t remember me, but…”
Greensborough Growler @ #695 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 3:26 pm
You have no answer so, you resort to your usual glib irrelevancies.
lizzie @ #694 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 6:28 pm
I read somewhere that ‘Dutts’ Dutton has a very large staff and likely lots of lawyers on staff.
How can Dutton assert that Keag didn’t have his number when there were “calls”?
Sorry to intrude, but…
Kerryn Phelps will run in Wentworth.
Barney in Go Dau @ #704 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 6:33 pm
Just like you?
lizzie @ #707 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 3:35 pm
Don’t apologise, it’s highly relevant.
It seems this is what the Potato has been trying to do with the au pairs! 🙂
lizzie @ #707 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 6:35 pm
Important water-cooler topic in offices around the country.
Just a note of caution: we have seen faked documents before.
Godwin Grech comes to mind. If you want to go further afield, the faked letters about Dubya’s military status brought down an entire television network and – most importantly – got Dubya completely off the hook in a situation where he was almost certainly guilty.
Be careful.
Emails can be faked by either side in a dispute.
The attackers can fake an email to enhance their case. Equally, the defender can fake an email in the hope the attackers grab onto it and makes fools of themselves by relying on a fake email.
In the Dutton matter, Q has already mixed up his dates, cases and employment positions. This is after reports that he had taken weeks to consider his position and to consider the facts of the case. Yet he still stuffed it up.
As I said… just a note of caution here.
Bushfire
Then we need a Royal Commission and a team of 50 lawyers. 😉
C@tmomma @ #700 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 6:31 pm
FWIW, I understand there is an ex Copper in Dutton’s employ. He handled this. Dutton would have acted on advice from his staff. Over egging this will only make Dutton more human.
And therein lies the disconnect between reality and Dutton’s version of it: who would ask a favour (and seriously and reasonably expect a successful response) of someone they barely knew 20 years ago?
Dutton is asking us to accept that he chose to intervene in a case, something he’s apparently only done 14 times, against departmental advice for a person with whom he has no personal connection.
Yeah, pull the other one mate.
Bushfire Bill @ #712 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 6:41 pm
Fake document doesn’t apply here seeing as Dutton released this!
Another question rising from the email is that it doesn’t ask for intervention, it’s just asking for advice.
So, what other communications followed and when was a request for intervention made?
Bushfire Bill pretty silly for anyone to knowingly table a forged email in parliament but point taken
JimmyD @ #715 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 6:48 pm
So, we have your opinion versus plausible denial.
Irrefutable evidence is required here, comrade
Proving that the English speaking media loves to go with their own narrative and not the facts, I have been disappointed with the way the Swedish Elections have been covered. The supposedly surging Swedish Democrats managed to get 1.07 million votes, but the other parties got almost 5 million votes. They came third, not first the way the media is carrying on.
If the either of the two major alliances had a significant lead, the other alliance would have allowed them to govern in minority at least for a year or two to avoid giving any power to the Swedish Democrats. However, they are basically tied (the left side has a one seat lead), and that sort of agreement won’t happen.
Certainly what won’t happen is a deal with the Swedish Democrats from the Right as two the parties (Centre and Liberals) have both ruled that out and would be massacred next time if they back tracked on that.
So what might happen is a Grand Coalition type deal with either the Social Democrats handing over to the Right Alliance or the Social Democrats, Greens, Centre and Liberals come to some sort of deal. Either way, it is not like the neo-fascists are going to really be wielding power.
But if listened to any of the Australian, British or American news services that is what they imply.
Whatever happened to Godwin Grech?
GG, I know you sometimes like to play devil’s advocate, but Dutton’s defence defies commonsense and any basic understanding of human behaviour.
I agree. I think Dutton is going to get caught out in a verbal trap of his own making.
JD, I know you sometimes like to play gullible fool, but Dutton’s defence is commonsense and resonates with any basic understanding of human behaviour.
@Cat and Princess Peg:
Peg: “Greens senator Rachel Siewert has introduced a bill to the Senate to raise the Newstart allowance by $75 a week”
Cat: “More Virtue Signalling by The Greens in time for their next newsletter?”
Two problems for Labor:
1. On its face, the $75 increase is hard for a social justice party to argue against; but
2. As usual, wedge politics is at play: the Greens are hoping that Labor opposes the measure to shave support from labor to the Greens from the left, but the government is hoping Labor will support the measure so their droogs can dog whistle on 2GB and in the Murdoch tabloids and shave off support from labor from the centre.
It’s a pickle, but I think the answer is for Labor to firstly point out that such a bill can only properly originate in the Reps. I know that Labor – for good reasons wants a comprehensive inquiry into welfare payments upon assuming office, and this may affect the final rate that Newstart should be set.
However, and secondly, I think as a sign of good faith Labor should promise some immediate increase upon assuming office as a down payment – perhaps something between an extra $3 and $5 per day ($21 to $35 per week). Labor should not be afraid to argue that to either side of the obvious Lib-Green wedge that has been set up on this issue.
Isn’t the main problem with Greens’ bill, that the Senate can’t initiate bills that involve expenditure.
How are the Greens introducing a money bill in the Senate and expecting it to get anywhere? Increasing Newstart would be a money bill.
Re ar @5:37PM. “It’s important to differentiate first-order problems from second-order ones.”
Greens who attack Labor please note.
GG – you typically resort to insults when you know you’re wrong and/or you have nothing of substance to say, so I’ll take that to the bank.
JimmyD @ #730 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 7:09 pm
I learnt from you!
Chris Uhlmann
Verified account @CUhlmann
2m2 minutes ago
This is odd. We were told building the super portfolio of Home Affairs was to have a one stop shop for domestic security. Now we are told that the portfolio is so big there’s not enough room in the minister’s office for the police l.
https://www.9news.com.au/2018/09/10/18/30/peter-dutton-afp-representative-removed-from-home-affairs-minister-s-office
Good evening all,
Labor did not go hard today at Dutton re the Au pair issue. A cursory question here and there but nothing of any great note.
To me that suggests one of two possibilities,
Labor has decided the Au pair issue is not going to deliver any great result as a attack line and perhaps more fertile ground lies in the direction of S44 or
something more and or bigger is on the way ( apart from the email released this evening ) and labor is being patient and holding back until that “something ” is made public and shoots Dutton and his defence statements right down.
Cheers and a great night to all.
I was in a Coles supermarket earlier today.
Mince pies and christmas puddings are now available.
“To me that suggests one of two possibilities,”
Or a third – glass houses possibly?
doyley,
Another possibility is that Labor see a real chance to take the Potato down so, they’re not going to make a major move until they’re sure they’ve got the numbers. 🙂
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-mps-sussan-ley-and-sarah-henderson-vote-against-live-export-ban-bill-20180910-p502wu.html
They threatened to cross the floor to stop the trade they felt was heinous. When it came to a vote, they changed their mind.
Interesting to see the leading potential Lib candidate for Wentworth has pulled out, citing the need for more women in the Liberal partyroom. We were only talking about this yesterday.
More on Ley and Henderson.
It seems like they sold their principles for a cabinet spot.
Also on their Private Members bill, I saw a reference earlier saying it had been dropped.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/sep/10/scott-morrison-bill-shorten-coalition-labor-dutton-politics-live
Thankfully, these hoodlums were not the African gangs we have been warned about by Murdoch organs!
“Two sons of a Melbourne QC have been charged over a vicious beating in East Melbourne after the Richmond-Hawthorn qualifying final on Thursday night.
Former Xavier College students Dominic Walker and his brother Sam Walker, now aged in their 20s, were arrested on Friday night along with another man. The trio were charged with intentionally causing injury and recklessly causing injury and bailed to appear at the Melbourne Magistrates Court in December.
The Walker brothers are the sons of Tim Walker, QC, and grandsons of preeminent scientist and 2000 Australian of the Year Sir Gustav Nossal.
A spokesman for the family said they were not able to comment as the matter was still under police investigation.
“We have every confidence Victoria Police will obtain all relevant evidence, including all available CCTV footage,” he said.
“We ask the media to respect our family’s right to privacy.”
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/xavier-old-boys-from-prominent-family-charged-over-brutal-finals-assault-20180910-p502wv.html
Steve and Barney,
Labor has been on the attack re the au pairs for the past four weeks or so.
It was just obvious to me today that they were very quiet re this matter.
Why the back off ? It could be one or a number of reasons.
We shall see.
Confessions @ #739 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 4:25 pm
So the only way to for a woman to gain pre-selection in the Liberal Party is to have no men in the race.
Barney:
It’s precisely why they need quotas. The leading candidate had the backing of factional powerbrokers in the seat, so presumably if he’d remained in the contest he’d be preselected.
There are 3 women who have nominated and 5 other men.
The anomamous, amonomous, amous, unknown leaker in the White House has been revealed:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/10/i-am-the-resistance-inside-the-ceiling-of-the-white-house
Sprocket – I guess we can expect them to get a sentence of 20 hours community service then?
Confessions @ #739 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 7:25 pm
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If he was that concerned about women’s numbers, then why has he apparently taken up a top senate position ?
sprocket_ @ #740 Monday, September 10th, 2018 – 7:27 pm
Bill Shorten went to Xavier. He has questions to answer.
There’s a parallel between mince pies being available in early September and hot cross buns from Boxing Day onwards
VP:
Has he? I wasn’t aware of that.