Courtesy of the Fairfax papers, Ipsos provides the most striking federal poll result in a very, very long time: a 55-45 blowout to Labor, out from 51-49 in Ipsos’s previous monthly result. Powering this is a six point slump in the Coalition primary vote to 33%, from which Labor yields only one point to reach 35%, with the Greens up one to 13% (a high Greens vote being a routine Ipsos peculiarity). This is reflected in Malcolm Turnbull’s personal ratings, which find him down nine on approval to 46% and up ten on disapproval to 48%. Bill Shorten is respectively up three to 41% and down two to 52%, and his deficit on two-party preferred has narrowed from 57-30 to 48-36. Ipsos’s respondent-allocated two-party result is also 55-45, after being 50-50 last time.
A question on company tax finds 47% in favour of a reduction from 30% to 25% over ten years, with 44% opposed. However, this notably fails to engage with the issue presently faced, which is whether tax cuts should be advanced to businesses with more than $50 million turnover, a proposition that reliably gets a less favourable response. On energy policy, 54% back the National Energy Guarantee, with 22% opposed. Fifty-six per cent think the government is doing too little to address climate change, compared with only 13% for too much and 28% for about right. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1200.
UPDATE: The Australian has further results from last week’s Newspoll on company tax, showing only 36% support big business company tax cuts being passed through the Senate, with 51% wanting them blocked. There is also a repeat of an unfortunately framed question from early July that privileges support for tax cuts by asking when they should be introduced, rather than if. This finds 34% favouring the “as soon as possible” option, down four from last time; 27% favouring “in stages over ten years”, which is unchanged; and 31% holding out for the third-listed option of “not at all”, which is up four points.
Her opinion piece about the wholesale killing of Great White Sharks was one of the more ignorant things I’ve ever read.
No effing idea about the role of Apex predators in nature.
Just really dim.
She can’t have seen one in the wild, people’s attitudes change when they do.
Paul Krugman
Verified account @paulkrugman
46s46 seconds ago
Nobody could have predicted that tax cuts would be followed by calls to cut SS and Medicare to reduce deficits, except anyone who has paid attention to everything the GOP has done since 1980
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/gop-rep-steve-stivers-urges-medicare-social-security-reform.html
Primrose Riordan
Verified account @primroseriordan
4m4 minutes ago
New: Craig Laundy denies he’ll quit under Dutton: “I will not be causing a byelection that would tear apart the party because unlike those attempting to tear apart the party as we speak I genuinely care for it and the future of the party” #auspol
It should be repeated that Gillard had 2 years of regular shocking polling (up to 40-60) before there was a spill.
The Coalition get one outlier at 45-55 and we were 7 votes shy of Dutton PM.
The second coming of Rudd was fueled by almost constant disastrous polls with a kerosene opposition leader fanned by a lazy CPG while in a minority government. The loyalty by the ALP shown to Gillard for so long was actually heartening. What is happening today is symptomatic of a fracture in the Coalition so ideological and so deep the CPG are now unable to skim coat it.
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Sceptic @ #2891 Tuesday, August 21st, 2018 – 7:30 pm
This one?
So now what happens is voters begin to notice instability and turbulence, uncertainty, to recoil from this and go looking for stability, for coherence and for order.
The Liberals will find that today’s events will have Rudd-like effects. For many voters, who pay almost no attention to politics, the spill will come as an abrupt event. They will be mystified and confused by it; and they will be dismayed. They will reject it, instinctively.
It will be fascinating to see how this plays out in the polls….which cannot come too soon!!
SK
Labor is made of much sterner stuff than the LNP.
At least thats the way I see it from outside. At least the LNP instability has put to bed its minority government that causes instability.
What causes it is when MP’s are free to speak their mind and the camouflage of a united front is allowed to become a swamp of division.
The only problem Labor had was that it had not had practice at being a minority and why the rules were loose before Richardson tightened them to suit the Murdoch narrative about what unity looks like.
Guytaur ”
Maybe. Its worked well for NZ though.
Same for most of Europe.”
I agree. MMP is a great system. I think that it should be adopted here. Single member electorates are a poor way to reflect the will of the voters, although in Australia its worst effects are mitigated by preferential voting and the Senate voting system.
guytaur says:
Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 9:43 pm
SK
Labor is made of much sterner stuff than the LNP.
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The only problem Labor had was that it had not had practice at being a minority and why the rules were loose before Richardson tightened them to suit the Murdoch narrative about what unity looks like.
This is nonsense. Forever and a day, Labor’s maxim was to govern alone or not at all. This has been restated…for very very good reasons.
If Dutton replaces Turnbull as Leader of the Liberal Party (or in Turnbull`s case Follower of the Liberal Party), with all the opposition to Dutton, Turnbull would probably be justified in advising the Governor-General that nobody has the numbers to replace him and a new election has to be called immediately (with Turnbull as caretaker PM).
Steve
Yes I can’t offer anything other than it would be better to happen sooner. Along with Truth in media laws and breaking up monolithic media empires.
The only thing Paul Keating did wrong was allow more not less concentration of the media. If they had remained one city papers like the Washington Post change would have happened to support investigative journalism.
Now I hope new models like Crikey and the Guardian can fuel the money needed in the private sector for that.
Briefly
Actually in the old days I am talking about before the 80’s Labor in fact did rule alone.
Tanya Plibersek
Verified account @tanya_plibersek
1h1 hour ago
In contrast to the Liberals, @AustralianLabor stands ready to govern for all Australians, with the best policies and the best people.
SK – You are totally right. The Libs have brainwashed people with Kill Bill. People think I’m weird when I tell them he is going to be a great Australian Prime Minister (as I often do).
https://twitter.com/AnthDeCeglie/status/1031871297003778048
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Labor going full bore on the National Integrity Commission is going to be very very popular with voters.
The media has been telling those voters all politicians are corrupt. They released a survey to that effect on voters opinions today.
How did this gem from a few weeks ago slip through? You gotta laugh at the contortions.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/kenn-starr-on-mueller-probe-we-dont-want-prosecutors-on-a-fishing-expedition/
briefly
Yes we here tend to forget how unengaged most people are with politics for 99% of the time. This will indeed come as a total shock to many people and it will just be “disunity is death” with memories of overthrows past.
Guytaur – totally agree. It’s an electoral winner that the Libs won’t touch with a barge pole! Even if they wanted to, the Nats would go into full-scale revolt.
In case its not been posted
Samantha Maiden tweets
Seven, eight, lay them straight.
Cabinet ministers Michael Keenan and Steve Ciobo offer resignations now. Taking the tally to Peter Dutton 8 ministers declining to serve under PM: including Angus Taylor, Concetta Fiervanti Wells, Zed Seselja, Michael Sukkar, James McGrath. https://twitter.com/primroseriordan/status/1031840909619417088
Les Stonehouse tweets
A lady from #Duttons seat of #dickson is getting heaps of phone calls over the past 2 weeks.. One night 3 wow.. Glad it’s not me #auspol
Keenan and Ciobo have not resigned/its not been accepted.
Ides
Its why its important to note the cheerleading from the Murdoch press. Labor has to have in their minds from day 1 of government they have to deal with Murdoch’s malign influence.
Do that and the policy reforms become much easier.
Lenore Taylor
Verified account @lenoretaylor
25s26 seconds ago
The $225,000 campaign to dislodge Peter Dutton from Dickson
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/16/the-225000-campaign-to-dislodge-peter-dutton-from-dickson?CMP=share_btn_tw
ABC News has the resignations of McGrath and Sukkar as an offer to resign
Zoidlord says:
How much of the money came from a bank in the Cayman Islands ? 🙂
guytaur @ #2921 Tuesday, August 21st, 2018 – 7:57 pm
Fake news. So many people taken in by this. Why?
Reshuffle is on the Cards – ABC News:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-21/malcolm-turnbull-survives-leadership-challenge-from-peter-dutton/10146574
Lenore Taylor
Verified account @lenoretaylor
10s11 seconds ago
Dutton supporters rally as second challenge to Turnbull’s leadership looms
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/21/peter-dutton-challenge-malcolm-turnbull-leadership-resignations?CMP=share_btn_tw
The Coalition under Howard were solid. It isnt so much that the ALP were made of sterner stuff, more that they had (and have) a more stable and unifying policy framework. The only thing that unifies the Coalition these days is keeping the ALP out of government.
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Shorten doesnt inspire me at all. But I am 100% sure he is nothing to be feared or hated. He and the ALP seem organised and well prepared for government.
Lenore Taylor tweets
Dutton supporters rally as second challenge to Turnbull’s leadership looms https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/21/peter-dutton-challenge-malcolm-turnbull-leadership-resignations?CMP=share_btn_tw
From the article Lenore Taylor posted on the Guardian
Talk about a statement of the bleeding obvious.
SK – All I want from Shorten is competence and I am sure I am going to get that in spades. I can’t wait.
Sam Dastyari tweets
I’ve been involved in enough of these leadership fiascos on the Labor side to know how it works….. there would have been an actual meeting of MPs where someone said ‘Abbott is unelectable’ and then someone said ‘how about we run Voldemort?’ And they all nodded. #DisgraceAU https://twitter.com/samdastyari/status/1031850278415265792/photo/1
“Reshuffle is on the Cards – ABC News”
Our taxes pay for this level of intelligence at the ABC?
Complete insanity is happening at present. This makes RGR seem second rate in terms of a party tearing itself apart from within. There can be only one winner from all this and it won’t be a Liberal.
Katherine Murphy tweets
One of the most interesting caucuses in the building tonight. Crossbenchers @Indigocathy and @MakeMayoMatter won’t give Peter Dutton comfort on confidence and supply in the event the place blows. McGowan lobbying Liberals against a change https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/21/crossbenchers-wont-confirm-they-will-guarantee-supply-under-dutton?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet #auspol
Katherine Murphy tweets
One of the most interesting caucuses in the building tonight. Crossbenchers @Indigocathy and @MakeMayoMatter won’t give Peter Dutton comfort on confidence and supply in the event the place blows. McGowan lobbying Liberals against a change https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/21/crossbenchers-wont-confirm-they-will-guarantee-supply-under-dutton?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet #auspol
Newsweek tweets
“Nancy Pelosi is old”: Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg wants age limit for politicians http://bit.ly/2MEeOEV https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1031881142889328640/photo/1
guytaur
I miss Sam. I hope he can make a comeback. We would all be better off for it.
guytaur @ #2938 Tuesday, August 21st, 2018 – 10:31 pm
Can we make it retroactive and set it below whatever age Trump is?
If so, I’m all for it.
TPOF
I certainly think he paid too high a price considering what the LNP do.
Thats politics.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/21/arctics-strongest-sea-ice-breaks-up-for-first-time-on-record
Meanwhile, climate change powers on in the northern hemisphere. The Ultras – the fools – of the Liberal Party play games while the environment gets serious.
[McGowan lobbying Liberals against a change]
She should stay out of it or climb into bed with them and take out a Liberal membership. I’m sure T would be happy to sign her up.
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It should be the same retirement age as the rest of the population. In Australia thats 67