Essential Research: 53-47 to Labor

The public evenly divided on dual citizens and One Nation Senators in burqas in federal parliament, with little change on voting behaviour.

No change to Labor’s 53-47 lead on two-party preferred from Essential Research this week, with the Coalition steady at 37% on the primary vote, Labor down one to 36%, Greens up one to 10% and One Nation steady on 8%. Other questions find an even split of opinion on whether dual citizens should be allowed to serve in parliament, with 41% for yes and 40% for no, and identical results for a question on whether the affected ministers should stand down. Fifty-nine per cent support a “citizenship audit” of parliamentarians, with 25% opposed. Pauline Hanson’s burqa stunt drew 39% approval and 38% disapproval. Forty per cent deemed the tax system fair compared with 51% for not fair, with majorities agreeing that corporations and “some wealthy people” don’t pay their fair share. Respondents were hard pressed to separate the last four prime ministerships as best/least bad, but with the order of preference running Rudd, Turnbull, Gillard, Abbott. This week’s survey was conducted Thursday to Monday from a sample of 1027, with the voting intention numbers being a combined result including last week’s survey.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. If Mary can be infused by the sperm of a spirit, and Joseph couldn’t give a stuff, then who am I to object to the Christian principle of love.

  2. LU

    I’ve been making comments, and yet, through the days, I wonder at the lack of them.

    There’s something seriously wrong with whatever program Crikey is using.

    You probably won’t see this, though.

  3. Trying to follow any conversation here is absolutely useless.

    There are obviously hundreds, if not more, comments, that are invisible to me.

    Trying to trace to an original post is worse than useless.

    I’ve taken to highlighting a post, so that I can revert to where I left off, but even then there’s only about 20 posts when there would normally be about 200.

    WHAT IS GOING ON, William????

  4. Bushfire Bill

    I’m sure you have something to say, if nothing less than to cast aspersions on my character, but I can’t see you replying at all.

    So, I’ll just keep talking.

    I hope you’re well.

  5. The first ‘no’ ad for the postal survey aired Tuesday night, from the Australian Christian Lobby.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqXLfp2sFHQ

    Oh dear.

    “The postal survey is not subject to the stringent rules of the Commonwealth Electoral Act, which prevents information that is deceptive or misleading from being distributed.

    The Coalition has flagged rushing through legislation to change that, but it will wait until a High Court challenge against the postal survey has been heard.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-29/same-sex-marriage-advertising-restrictions-put-on-hold/8854178

  6. TallebudgeraLurker

    Why wouldn’t the various PHES facilities around the country be used to meet the AM and PM peak every day. The kit deteriorates slowly over time so why not fully utilise it all – unless there is insufficient solar and wind and ??? to provide the input power for pumping?

    Yeah, there is no good reason not to use it, as PHES isn’t s primary energy source. PHES is great at storing energy for later use, and of course you’d put it to its greatest value use.

    I read some press from April this year earlier today that referenced subsequent stages of PHES involving Tantangara and Talbingo Reservoirs – I would rather read an engineering report and form my own views. Do you know the maximum GW potential of these two reservoirs – Cud was asking?

    The problem is delivering power to where it is needed, when it is needed. For this you need more network, so having PHES near HV transmission is a must, and having it closer to load points is better. SH2, on the other hand, is nowhere near major loads and is likely to be such a large addition to the system that extensive core grid reinforcement will be needed; like the link from NSW to SA* and probably more into VIC too. It’s also an issue with the Tas push into wind – at some stage the Basslink will hit its export constraint and there’s only so much pumping you can do to stop the energy spilling.

    The fellow from REN (Portuguese TSO) that I was speaking to yesterday raised an example of this. The situation was that Portugal had so much wind that they were relying on the rotating mas of hydro pumps to provide stability services, and were still exporting something like another 20% of their total load to Spain (wind was providing ~140% of load). After about 6 hours of this, they started to exhaust the lower pondages off their PHES. So, to provide the necessary levels of inertia and frequency control, they had to dispatch CCGT. However, even at minimum operating levels, the CCGT pushed exports to Spain to their limits… and the only thing left to do was to spill wind.

    The point is that energy and power aren’t everything. You need to have inertia and frequency support locally or via a very strong network. SH2 won’t provide that to SA or QLD without some serious network expansion. On the other hand, it’s not clear that behind-the-meter batteries will be able to provide the fast frequency or voltage response required either (voltage support via reactive power injection can’t be efficiently propagated back up through the LV network).

    Which is all a very long way of saying: it’s more complicated than picking one technology.

    *which, mind you, should have been built 30 years ago but the SA Libs wanted local generators to be able price higher so they could be sold off at a higher price.

  7. I see an asylum seeker boat made it from PNG to an Australian Island just off PNG on 20 August.

    They’ve managed to keep it secret for 10 days. I wonder how many others they’ve managed to keep secret. Stopped the boats indeed.

    Apparently they’ve arrested a Chinese facilitator and a PNG national (presumably the skipper) and 5 Chinese nationals who have been deported to God knows where.

    The two arrested individuals have appeared in a Brisbane Court.

  8. According to the SMH the LNP will argue that the Australian Island they arrived on is much closer to PNG than to Australia, as if that is some sort of excuse.

    Well, Christmas Island is much closer to Indonesia than to Australia’s mainland, but that didn’t deter their blaming Labor when boats arrived on Christmas I. on Labor’s watch.

  9. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    Mark Kenny tells us that Turnbull is being encouraged by senior ministers to run from behind, allowing him to use his underdog status to highlight the growing “danger” of Bill Shorten becoming the nation’s 30th prime minister.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-told-to-claim-underdog-status-in-battle-against-bill-shorten-20170829-gy6jlc.html
    The Coalition’s latest attack on Labor’s ‘socialism’ would be funny, if it wasn’t so desperate, writes Ben Eltham. The government is quite spooked by Shorten’s pitch on inequality he says.
    https://newmatilda.com/2017/08/29/labor-are-socialists-and-other-ridiculous-liberal-theories/
    Paul Bongiorno says that Turnbull is looking for a high voltage circuit breaker.
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/08/28/malcolm-turnbull-energy-prices/
    Ross Gittins explains the “missing middle” – people who aren’t rich enough to afford lawyers, but aren’t poor enough to be eligible for legal aid. It’s pretty scary.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/defeated-by-high-legal-costs-the-terrible-injustice-most-of-us-could-face-20170829-gy68pr.html
    The SMH editorial comes out and says that we can no longer tolerate climate change denial and the scientific myopia exemplified by Trump and Abbott.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/we-can-no-longer-tolerate-climate-change-denial-20170829-gy6he6.html
    A very sensible article from Mark Kenny on the statues stand-off.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/a-craven-nation-that-prefers-statues-to-agility-20170829-gy68sx.html
    Ten’s retail shareholders are calling for a class action or regulatory investigation into boardroom secrecy ahead of the broadcaster’s administration, as it becomes clear they will be completely wiped out by the deal with CBS.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/ten-shareholders-calling-for-class-action-and-compensation-20170829-gy6e42.html
    In the meantime News Corp will not be allowed to buy an Australian television network other than the Ten Network, even if media-ownership laws are changed, industry executives believe. My heart bleeds! Google.
    /media-and-marketing/news-corp-doesnt-have-a-second-television-option-20170829-gy6ldb
    It appears Australia’s banks are more satisfied with earning a fast buck than supporting real investment in projects and jobs for the betterment of all Australians.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/its-time-to-get-banks-back-to-nationbuilding-basics-20170829-gy6l01.html
    And The Age editorial says that the Australian government is wrong to resist the call for a Royal Commission into banks.
    http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-age-editorial/australian-government-wrong-to-resist-royal-commission-into-banks-20170829-gy6iuc.html

  10. Section 2 . . .

    Michael West’s website leads with “Fused with the state, backed by taxpayers, too big to fail, a financial success and a moral failure; Commonwealth Bank has become a symbol for what is wrong with big business and government. No better story has been written about the CBA fiasco than the following investigative feature by Nathan Lynch.”
    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/do-not-stuff-up-this-institution-narev-told-the-inside-story-of-australias-biggest-money-laundering-scandal/
    Things to consider when making the change to the NBN and what to expect.
    https://theconversation.com/things-to-consider-when-making-the-switch-to-the-nbn-and-what-to-expect-83162
    The latest developments in Australia’s concentration camp redux approach to refugee policy have brought another colouring of extremism from the Department of Immigration and Border Protection. In the drama, Minister for Immigration and Border Protection Peter Dutton has distinguished himself by claiming that anyone keen to advise asylum seekers and refugees is pushing the envelope of “un-Australianness”.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/starvation-and-attrition-peter-dutton-asylum-and-the-legal-profession,10662
    There has to be something stinky within this deal!
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/massive-windfall-for-ron-and-roy-medich-on-sale-of-land-near-badgerys-creek-site-20170829-gy6owd.html
    Bill Shorten has slammed a new TV advertisement by opponents of same-sex marriage as “total rubbish” licensed by Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. And rightfully so!
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/shorten-blames-turnbull-for-total-rubbish-tv-ad-from-samesex-marriage-opponents-20170829-gy6q02.html
    Some cracks in the armour?
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/love-is-the-primary-gospel-value-elite-catholic-schools-defy-church-leadership-on-samesex-marriage-20170829-gy66eo.html
    The yes and no campaigns for the same-sex marriage postal survey have moved into full gear. Guardian Australia asked readers about their personal experiences as they navigate the marriage equality debate. Here are five of their stories.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/30/dont-be-cruel-please-navigating-the-marriage-equality-debate
    Jeff Sparrow says that Abbott’s opposition to marriage equality will cost the Liberals for years to come.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/29/abbotts-opposition-to-marriage-equality-will-cost-the-liberals-for-years-to-come
    Burwood Liberal councillor Tony Doueihi did not declare an interest and voted to approve extra apartments in a $26 million development in which his son had recently purchased a unit when it came before a state government planning panel on which he sits. Charming!
    http://www.theage.com.au/nsw/the-liberal-councillor-his-son-and-the-26m-development-20170828-gy5ggi.html
    More trouble for Clive Palmer. Google.
    /news/investigations/clive-palmer/citic-tells-clive-palmer-its-willing-to-shut-sino-iron-project/news-story/e110a6d63e945d0ab25fb9ab2cdd24b8

  11. Section 3 . . .

    Steph Peatling explains that nearly 1000 doctors, nurses, addiction specialists and allied health professionals are pressuring the Senate crossbench to reject the Turnbull government’s plan to drug-test welfare recipients.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/plan-to-drug-test-welfare-recipients-will-increase-crime-and-drive-social-division-say-medical-professionals-20170829-gy6drn.html
    The battle over the Tax Office’s plans to move public servants around the nation onto hot-desk working arrangements will move into the Fair Work Commission on Wednesday.
    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/tax-offices-hotdesking-legal-stoush-heats-up-20170829-gy6c5k.html
    A weak Clean Energy Target would shift the emissions reduction burden away from the electricity sector, undermine investor certainty, and potentially leave power stations pumping out pollution into the next century, according to analysis by RepuTex. And it won’t get us to meeting the Paris undertaking either. Turnbull’s got to get off his arse!
    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/critical-deeper-carbon-cuts-for-power-sector-would-slice-prices-reputex-says-20170829-gy68t5.html
    The Mayor of Chicago, Rahm Emanuel says that if Trump won’t tackle climate change Chicago (and other cities) will.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/29/if-donald-trump-wont-tackle-climate-change-then-chicago-will
    Greg Jericho writes that across all industries, even those with a majority female workforce, men make up the bulk of managers. Participation rates can’t account for the difference. And he says the excuses are running out.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2017/aug/29/men-still-dominate-managerial-positions-the-excuses-are-running-out
    Six Chinese men have successfully landed on Australian territory by boat, in an apparent blow to the Turnbull government’s claims to have stopped the boats.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/six-chinese-men-reach-australia-by-boat-intercepted-by-border-force-20170829-gy6oit.html
    After Kim’s latest missile launch what now?
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/north-korean-missile-launch-over-japan-the-latest-in-trumpkim-duel-20170829-gy6ab7.html
    Sydney’s $11m “Big Tapeworm” sculpture was approves in a fiery council meeting last night. There was only a 250% cost blowout!
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/city-of-sydneys-cloud-arch-sculpture-approved-in-fiery-council-meeting-20170829-gy6em4.html
    As they say “Sow and ye shall reap”.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/tears-as-6m-fails-to-secure-exmanly-sponsor-bail-on-drug-charges-20170829-gy6c73.html

  12. Section 4 . . . Cartoon Corner Part 1

    John Shakespeare and the changing of the guard at Australia Post.

    Simon Letch shows up the inequality in the justice system.

    On the same subject Andrew Dyson recalibrates the scales of justice.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/andrew-dyson-20090819-epqv.html
    Cathy Wilcox proposes some modern statues.

    John Shakespeare on the principle behind the Powerhouse Museum shift.

    Paul Zanetti does his employer’s calling again.

    Cathy Wilcox and some hypocrisy in elite schools.

  13. Section 5 . . . Cartoon Corner Part 2

    A new US flag.

    Nice!

    Superb work from David Rowe!

    Glen Le Lievre gives us Australia, the naughty country.

    Sean Leahy farewells Dean Mercer.

    A telling contribution from David Pope.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0
    Ron Tandberg fires a nice shot at Potatohead.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/ron-tandberg-20090910-fixc.html
    mark Knight goes to Japan.
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/fcf7bf45a72e452f457618c6936be714?width=1024
    Jon Kudelka suggests a cheaper option for North Korea.
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b02a4fd48eb410af36b1b5c44e63de45

  14. Trump In Free Fall As Only 15% Of Americans Say They Agree With Him On All Issues

    A new Pew Research poll found that Trump may be the most out of touch president in history as only 15% of Americans said that they agreed with him on all of the issues.

    According to Pew Research, “The survey, conducted by Pew Research Center Aug. 15-21 among 1,893 adults, finds that 15% of Americans say they agree with Trump on all or nearly all issues, while another 18% say they agree with him on many but not all issues. Most say they agree with Trump on either a few issues (21%) or “no or almost no issues” (45%).”

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/29/trump-free-fall-15-americans-agree-issues.html

  15. Trump trying to pardon his way out of Russia scandal would be ‘stupidest’ possible plan: legal experts

    In theory, President Donald Trump could try to shut down the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign by preemptively pardoning every member of his campaign team implicated in possible collusion.

    However, multiple legal experts tell Vox that such a strategy would be the “stupidest” course of action that he’s taken so far, as it would rip down key legal barriers that are protecting the president and his team during the investigation.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/trump-trying-to-pardon-his-way-out-of-russia-scandal-would-be-stupidest-possible-plan-legal-experts/

  16. ‘Humiliating’: Russian journalist reveals Trump’s history falling on his face cutting deals in Moscow

    President Donald Trump fancies himself as a master deal maker — but longtime Russian business journalist Leonid Bershidsky reveals in a new Bloomberg column that Trump’s purported negotiating prowess got him absolutely nowhere when he tried to drive hard bargains in Russia.

    In looking over the Trump Organization’s failed bid to build Trump Tower Moscow while Trump was running for president, Bershidsky says that it fits into a broad pattern of Trump trying to cut deals in Russia, but failing every step of the way.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/humiliating-russian-journalist-reveals-trumps-history-falling-on-his-face-cutting-deals-in-moscow/

  17. KKK hoods and urine-proof sheets spotted in Trump Tower gift shop

    Ku Klux Klan hoods and urine-proof bed sheets were for sale at Trump Tower’s gift shop this week.

    According to local news outlet Gothamist, two pranksters slipped the satirical merchandise into Manhattan’s Trump Tower on Monday.

    The fake merchandise included a KKK hood “for fine people,” packages of urine-proof rubber sheets, a Russian “Trump” flag, and a postcard featuring Putin as the 45th President of the United States, among other things.

    Gothamist checked to see if the items were still available on Tuesday — and they were.

    But clerks at the store apparently caught on to the prank after Gothamist tried to buy the items. The reporters were promptly ordered out of the store. Within an hour, all the items appeared to have been removed.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/kkk-hoods-and-urine-proof-sheets-spotted-in-trump-tower-gift-shop/

  18. ‘But wait — there’s more’: Morning Joe calls Trump campaign a Russian ‘money-making scam’ gone wrong

    The “Morning Joe” host repeated his claim from the day before that Trump never expected to win, but instead ran for president to enhance his brand.

    “This was all a money-making scam,” Scarborough said. “He thought Jeb Bush was going to beat him. He was going to — straight-out Steve Miller Band and ‘Take the Money and Run.’”

    Scarborough and MSNBC’s Mark Halperin were astonished that Trump and his team initially lied about Donald Trump Jr.’s campaign meeting with Russians knowing that these business dealings had taken place months earlier — and would eventualy be revealed.

    “They were lying over and over — ‘Oh, no contact with Russia,’” Scarborough said.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/but-wait-theres-more-morning-joe-calls-trump-campaign-a-russian-money-making-scam-gone-wrong/

  19. This is a good explanation of the rights claim they are being silenced. It isn’t about being silenced, it’s that they don’t like being told they are wrong.

    “For of course, this is what truly plagues people like Hanson and Bolt and the chorus line of similarly prominent and privileged mouthpieces who share their paranoia about a diminishing relevance in the world.

    When your Uncle Kev laments that “you’re not allowed to say anything anymore,” what he really means is that it’s not fair that people can tell him he’s wrong or offensive or racist or any other number of things that he most definitely is but feels aggrieved to labelled as.”

    Far from ‘silenced’, but increasingly irrelevant
    The Hansons, Bolts and Sheltons of the world are suffering from diminished relevance.
    http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/opinion/silenced-no-bigots-are-just-angry-that-fewer-people-are-listening-20170828-gy5xnj.html?btis

  20. Good summary of Shorten ratsak

    “Shorten just ain’t that scary. Plenty of people seem to think he’s a bit of a faceless man, but scary? The mob who are trying to portray Shorten as the devil were telling us only a few years ago how great Tony Abbott was.”.

    He isn’t a messiah, or overly inspiring, he isn’t ‘scary’. The two capabilities I associate are ‘capable’ and ‘consultative “.

  21. A petulant Tony Abbott lashes out…

    “The Herald Sun revealed on Tuesday Mr Abbott spent almost $74,000 on domestic flights last year, nearly double the average of all MPs, as he spent more than nine weeks jetsetting outside his Sydney electorate.

    In a letter to the Herald Sun, Mr Abbott said it was “hardly surprising” he would spend more than his colleagues given he is a “a busy former prime minister”.

    He accused other Liberal MPs of launching an anonymous hit on him and said: “Is it any wonder the government has trouble getting its message across when its members play these sorts of nasty games?”

    Mr Abbott also claimed travel allowances worth $24,311 for 65 nights away from his electorate for trips listed as “former prime minister — official business”.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/tony-abbott-accuses-liberal-mps-of-insider-hatchet-job-after-120000-travel-bill-exposed/news-story/cd0b68c6cea73f4caf4fe7a72c86eb78?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=CourierMail&utm_medium=Twitter

  22. LU @ #170,

    Thank you bigly for your response. That helps to put it all in perspective.

    I would hope the feasibility study for Snowy Hydro looks at the issues of delivery of power to their PHESs from the existing power sources and proposed renewable sources for pumping and the export of the additional power to the anticipated loads but maybe that is out of their remit.

    In which case, is that connectivity issue then the responsibility of ARENA (as a part sponsor of the Snowy 2 feasibility study) or NEMO or ???

  23. briefly

    These sudden citizenship changes are scary. It seems that governments do not have to publicise their rule changes, which then become retrospective.

  24. So what use was Finkel, except as a Turnbull patsy?

    The clean energy target recommended by Australia’s chief scientist, Alan Finkel, won’t deliver Australia’s obligations under the Paris agreement and will only transfer pressure to other sectors of the economy to reduce their emissions, according to new analysis.

    While some government MPs oppose the central recommendation of the Finkel review – a 28% clean energy target – on the basis it is too ambitious, and will lock too much renewable energy into the system, the new modelling from the firm Reputex says the central problem is the emissions reduction trajectory is too weak.

    The modelling says the Finkel trajectory would see Australia’s electricity emissions being phased out between 2095-2101 – a timeframe that is inconsistent with the Paris goal of limiting warming to two degrees, and of reaching carbon neutrality by mid-century.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/30/finkel-clean-energy-target-too-weak-for-paris-climate-goal-analysis-shows?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet

  25. lizzie
    briefly

    These sudden citizenship changes are scary

    They are certainly arbitrary. Individual rights are not respected or protected.

  26. lizzie
    So what use was Finkel, except as a Turnbull patsy

    Simply a delaying tactic. The LNP lack the wherewithal to devise and implement relevant and effective energy policy…so they prevaricate. They specialise in ineffective government.

  27. Just saw Josh on TV explaining how the government is going to interfere with the free market with regard to energy prices.

    Apart from trashing one of their ‘principles’, what he doesn’t realise is the companies will still organise themselves to make a profit. If they force them to reduce prices for one class of customer, the other customers will pay more.

    He will also force them to increase costs by developing some sort of app to help the customer switch retailers. This will increase prices for all customers.

    Thirdly he will be forcing retailers to make the time customers can switch retailers quicker. Doesn’t he realise this will require a special read of the meter which is an extra cost to the existing process, which again will increase the costs which will be passed onto the customer.

    The government have already proven time after time that thay are very poor economic managers and shouldn’t interfere with how retail power businesses run their business.

  28. [sprocket_
    A petulant Tony Abbott lashes out…

    “The Herald Sun revealed on Tuesday Mr Abbott spent almost $74,000 on domestic flights last year, nearly double the average of all MPs, as he spent more than nine weeks jetsetting outside his Sydney electorate.

    In a letter to the Herald Sun, Mr Abbott said it was “hardly surprising” he would spend more than his colleagues given he is a “a busy former prime minister”.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/tony-abbott-accuses-liberal-mps-of-insider-hatchet-job-after-120000-travel-bill-exposed/news-story/cd0b68c6cea73f4caf4fe7a72c86eb78?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=CourierMail&utm_medium=Twitter]

    I think Abbott needs to decide whether he is a former PM or an MP.

    He is clearly using these events for his own personal political benefit.

    If he wants to be PM again he should stop being a former PM.

    If he wants to be a former PM he should resign from Parliament.

  29. [briefly
    lizzie
    So what use was Finkel, except as a Turnbull patsy

    Simply a delaying tactic. The LNP lack the wherewithal to devise and implement relevant and effective energy policy…so they prevaricate. They specialise in ineffective government.]

    It just highlight that anything that conforms to the Government’s position is going to be ineffective in dealing with the issue.

  30. LU
    Spent far too much time on this yesterday, but want to make a couple of points about Snowy 2.0.
    Firstly, ways that Snowy 2.0 can make money apart from buying at low prices and selling at peak:
    Your statement:

    Through system stability and restart services, and as a physical hedge to gas peakers for wholesale market buyers, and if you set it up right, PHES in pumping mode can provide ancillary services.

    1) You don’t need a week’s worth of storage to provide these services, the existing Snowy facility could provide this (if it were needed), except, arguably for the extra peak transmission capacity that Snowy 2.0 would provide in the event of a major outage.
    2) We will eventually end up with a much smarter grid, with voltage and phase management controlled by software, which in turn manages numerous sources of supply, storage and demand. What you propose may be relevant in today’s world, but not in 2025.

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