Via James J, tomorrow’s Australian brings us another result showing Labor leading 53-47 on two-party preferred, from primary votes of Coalition 38% (down one), Labor 38% (steady) and Greens 10% (steady). For some reason, Malcolm Turnbull’s personal ratings have recorded an uptick, with approval up four to 34% and disapproval down four to 54%, but lead as preferred prime minister is unchanged, shifting from 42-32 to 43-33. Bill Shorten’s ratings are unchanged at 36% approval and 51% disapproval. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1846.
Newspoll: 53-47 to Labor
Malcolm Turnbull’s personal ratings bounce back from recent lows, amid an otherwise stable set of readings from Newspoll.
Morning all.
Victoria, re the weather and media reports I share your frustration. Emergency services here are bracing for what is being tipped as our worst fire season in years. We hear similar reports each summer, but nobody makes the link to climate change. It’s going to get worse, not better.
Victoria
I assume someone is chronicling all these “little effects” of AGW.
I am beginning to feel sad for all the people who were born too late to experience the world before AGW.
Another major earthquake in Fukashima area. 10 metre tsunami predicted.
Guytaur,
Its already surfacing and it will be a free for all when the LNP are the opposition.
I suspect we will see long years in the wilderness for them as they try and find relevance in the post neo liberal world
Yet if you asked them they would be confidently predicting long years in government surfing the Trump wave.
Fess/Lizzie
These days I just feel disheartened
Guytaur
10 feet not ten metre wave warning.
Guytaur,
Another major earthquake in Fukashima area. 10 metre tsunami predicted.
Not to be too flippant but could that be the Trump Wave hitting Japan after the Trumpquake?
Victoria,
These days I just feel disheartened
Long ago I gave up feeling that way because that’s what THEY want you to do. Give up fighting THEM. Nope, nope, nope, I’m going to fight them to make a better world until my dying breath!
Cat
Yes they have confidence in their propaganda. They think the present good news from the Obama era translates to covering their bad news in Australia.
Chalk and cheese but nothing like a bit of delusion to think they can translate on bad economic times. In Australia the record is clear of who is the bad economic managers and which major party is against banks against the elite etc.
Thats good news for Labor and bad news for the right 👿
Poroti
Oops sorry I missed the foot bit profound apologies. Still very bad of course.
Its actually 3 metres
Vic:
It’s all so depressing really. Far right populism seems to be on the rise everywhere.
Confessions
Not in Australia. Look at the Newspoll. Look at last Federal election results. Labor is riding populism wave because its policies address the left out and are different from internationally.
The elites in fact attacked Labor for handing out cheques so people would not be left out. We have had 25 years of uninterrupted economic growth thanks to Labor and voters are stating to wake up.
Guytaur
Not as sorry as NASA was when they got miles and kilometres mixed up on a Mars lander in the early noughties. A couple of hundred million $ went SPLAT 🙂
Malcolm Turnbull throws the dice again https://t.co/8OuwmpUepW excellent article by Paul Bongiorno
political_alert: Victorian Government introduces legislation to permanently ban fracking #springst pic.twitter.com/p3bkfvH0Pd
https://twitter.com/political_alert/status/800823868252254209
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Poroti
Yeah 😆
C@t
Understand. I am just working through adjusting to the Trump era which is upon us.
I think it’s almost natural to feel a degree of depression these days, particularly with the combination of Trump, global warming, and a worse than useless media. Not to mention our less than stellar government over here.
Doesn’t mean you don’t keep fighting any way that you can.
Plus the return and continued rise of Hanson, the reports of Sarkozy come back. Seriously.
Some reports the cooling system at Fukashima has ‘stopped’ …
Some more defeat for the forces of hate.
nickherbertmp: Relief as UN Member States narrowly vote to uphold new Independent Expert on LGBT discrimination – opposition a reminder of how much to do pic.twitter.com/I3b2O2mR5n
https://twitter.com/nickherbertmp/status/800768936325316609
‘fess
He lost his chance yesterday I think.
I would have thought that chanting “seig heil” was un-American. I guess the World War 2 vets are just about all dead now, and the shit for brains alt-right foot soldiers probably don’t even know what that war was about.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alt-right-hate-richard-spencer_us_5833242fe4b058ce7aac26fe
If the UK and US had Australia’s voting system no Brexit and not President Trump.
That is a reality to bear in mind when you see talk of the rise of the right. Yes in power terms of votes. With UK though not a done deal like US election results. Court ruled parliament has to debate and work out how and if Brexit actually happens. A week is a long time in politics.
Good to see Daniel Andrews continuing his run as ’employee of the month’ from our heads of govt.
re: the registered organisations, probably wise of Turnbull to go for an easy single, although considering his current run rate, he’s going to need some boundaries to get back on track. In terms of the discussion people had yesterday (will it effect polling). No-one knew of the existence of the bill when it was a DD trigger, nor during the election, nor did they know about it yesterday. It might give him a day or two without the media talking about how little Turnbull has achieved, which has to either delay, or slow the slide.
Also, very interesting to see the net sats for Turnbull from Newspoll. I’m very suspicious of it though. 6 Newspolls in a row with dropping netsat, Liberal 1st pref vote dropped, no change on PPM, no change on Shorten’s net sats. And yet a massive spike in Turnbull’s netsat? It just looks out of place. The only thing I can possibly think to explain it is that in that two weeks, the standard required to lead a country dropped considerably thanks to Trump?
CTar:
I certainly hope so!
‘fess
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38050705
I have never quite agreed that Tony Smith is the fair unbiased model he is made out to be.
Bongiorno:
CTar1
This would have been a bit ‘unhelpful’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/15/muammar-gaddafi-allegedly-gave-nicolas-sarkozy-50m-euros-2007-presidential-campaign
CTar:
That is good news! Thanks for that.
lizzie
Smith is no Peter Slipper. Canberra Press Gallery keeps ignoring actual work in the role.
Anything to have people forget what a real unbiased independent Speaker looks like.
No words…
I’m like you Vic – never had asthma before but suddenly this year, hayfever, wheezing etc.
A survey of 1846 is a very large (expensive) sample to be taking at a fairly irrelevant point in the election cycle. Aren’t their samples usually in the 1100-1200 range? Are they trying to attach more significance to the result for some reason?
This may be good for a laugh – or perhaps not. Dutton’s great, great grandfather was a politician, too. His ancestry traced.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/dutton-through-the-ages?utm_term=.nso9B1k2B#.txEMxp1Qx
That Richard Spencer character is a dangerous man, even if he thinks Donald Trump is the second coming of the prophet.
He is intelligent, articulate and committed to his cause. He’s also physically attractive and a hell of a lot younger than Donald Trump and all his Conservative Warriors. The term ‘Christian Soldier’ springs to mind. With the military emphasis highlighted. God only knows why these social control freaks are foist upon us. ; )
“That makes the government reliant on an unpersuaded crossbench, and it is understood to have secured only five of the eight votes needed to reach 38: the four One Nation senators and Tasmania’s Jacqui Lambie.”
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/turnbull-governments-lifetime-ban-on-refugee-visas-likely-to-be-killed-off-by-senate-20161121-gstycz.html
I thought Culleton agreed it would be a indecent for him to vote while the Court decides that he is inelligible?
LIZZIE – I think that, in Colonial Times, “Minister for Lands” was another word for “Crook”
Antonbruckner11
It seems so, from earlier link
One of the newspaper clippings
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Trump has made the first ‘grave’ mistake of his presidency. By dragging the media heads in and dressing them down, he’s poked at a nest of rattlesnakes who don’t take to kindly to his being bullied.
While they made a mistake themselves in not taking the possibility of a Trump presidency seriously, they will use every weapon at their disposal to expose Trump for who he really is now. The investigations/exposes will come thick and fast. He won’t make it past the mid-terms.
And like here with Turnbull, the people will be so relieved they’ll let another disaster, Pence, have a honeymoon (albeit a short one).
Chris Bowen says a Labor government would require the Productivity Commission to produce five-yearly reports measuring equality of opportunity and social mobility, as part of a multi-pronged policy effort to ensure Australia can maintain a genuinely egalitarian tradition.
That work would be sequenced with the existing intergenerational reports produced by the Treasury, the shadow treasurer will say in a speech he is due to give to the Chifley Research Centre on Tuesday.
Bowen will argue that Australia regularly professes to be the land of the fair go but governments need to ensure the egalitarian “dream” has substance behind it.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/22/labor-says-it-would-use-productivity-commission-to-enshrine-equality-of-opportunity
Pence was on Fox saying that he thought the criticism from the cast of ‘Hamilton’ was OK by him.
Unlike Trump, who set off one of his Twitter Vesuvius-like eruptions because of it.
LIZZIE – In Cyril Pearl’s Wild Men of Sydney, he says that, at the end of the nineteenth century, three successive Ministers for Lands fled the colony with a bag of loot. It was the job to have if you were light-fingered.
The problem is that the bar for political discourse keeps lowering. It’ll hit the floor soon.
Fools like Dutton are ennobled by Trump, and the political class don’t give a stuff as long as there’s a chance that they get a short term advantage from it.
Meanwhile the planet cooks, and the media collectively look the other way.
In many ways we have gone backwards in the last thirty years.
Grandather Trump:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/trump-grandfather-friedrich-banished-germany-historian-royal-decree
Trump is obviously not making the transition from dictatorial property magnate to elected politician. While the former can shout at any time “you’re fired”, the latter needs to remember that others can say to him “you’re fired”.
c@tmomma @ #269 Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 10:09 am
If he already had the nuclear codes, a mushroom cloud would probably be hanging over the theatre right now.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/22/hostility-towards-immigrants-on-rise-as-australians-despair-over-government