The Australian reports Newspoll shows the Coalition opening a 51-49 lead, from primary votes of Coalition 43% (up two), Labor 36% (steady) and Greens 9% (down one). Malcolm Turnbull is up one on approval to 37% and steady on disapproval at 51%, Bill Shorten is steady at 35% and down one to 50%, and Turnbull leads 45-30 as preferred prime minister. The poll of 1713 respondents was conducted Thursday to Sunday. Here’s the latest BludgerTrack update, including tonight’s Newspoll and yesterday’s Galaxy:
Here’s a closer look at how the minor party vote has tracked since the 2013 election, with the Greens shown in green, Palmer United in orange-brown, and others in grey.
Victoria
Monday, June 27, 2016 at 9:50 pm
Davidwh
Said it before and I will say it again. Win, lose or draw, Turnbull is toast
——-there is no second prize in this election – if he wins he will stay fresh as ever
Broken record, meet stopped clock.
G
Nah. The Greens will nobble them in every election from here to kingdom come. These are the same Greens who barracked for Brexit because it was regarded as a triumph of the dispossessed. These are the same Greens who barracked for Sanders and who were quite prepared to undermine Clinton even if it meant Trump got up in the end.
These are the same Greens who barracked for the SYRIZANS.
The Greens can wreck stuff but that it is about it.
Keating was right.
before I have to go if you are still around DTT – check William’s post yesterday at 3.11 pm and mine at 3.29pm – and Google ecological fallacy…
Idiotic. You mean Shorten was supposed to kidnap him and drag him along. Seriously.
The stench of desperation from you and yours has become decidedly overpowering and I’m okay letting you stew in it alone until the next poll, to be quite honest.
Daretotread – you’re falling for the Leave propaganda. The UK has been able to control it’s non-EU immigration forever and it has never done so. The powers in both political parties know perfectly well that immigration is critical to the UK. Secondly, access to the common market in the EU is always negotiable, but nobody has *ever* been permitted to access it without agreeing to one thing – freedom of movement, freedom of employment, and at least some access to welfare (in some form or another).
The UK will not be the exception.
George Orwell, 1946. Prescient, as ever.
The fact is that there is strong popular feeling in this country against foreign immigration. It arises from simple xenophobia, partly from fear of undercutting in wages, but above all from the out-of-date notion that Britain is overpopulated and that more population means more unemployment.
Actually, so far from having more workers than jobs, we have a serious labour shortage which will be accentuated by the continuance of conscription, and which will grow worse, not better, because of the ageing of the population.
Meanwhile our birthrate is still frighteningly low, and several hundred thousand women of marriageable age have no chance of getting husbands. But how widely are these facts known or understood?
In the end it is doubtful whether we can solve our problems without encouraging immigration from Europe. In a tentative way the Government has already tried to do this, only to be met by ignorant hostility, because the public has not been told the relevant facts beforehand. So also with countless other unpopular things that will have to be done from time to time.
But the most necessary step is not to prepare public opinion for particular emergencies, but to raise the general level of political understanding: above all, to drive home the fact, which has never been properly grasped, that British prosperity depends largely on factors outside Britain.
This business of publicizing and explaining itself is not easy for a Labour Government, faced by a press which at bottom is mostly hostile. Nevertheless, there are other ways of communicating with the public, and Mr Attlee and his colleagues might well pay more attention to the radio, a medium which very few politicians in this country have ever taken seriously.
Economist Chris Richardson uses the term “zombie measures”
Rummel @ 9:21 pm
The generation who stormed the beaches voted ‘leave’.
36% of the ‘safe space’ generation decided to vote at all.
I think the generation that voted to leave are riding on the coat tails of the 90 year olds if they want to pretend they stormed any beaches.
‘C@tmomma
Monday, June 27, 2016 at 9:37 pm
BW,
Maybe you need to tell Bluey, ‘All work and no play makes Bluey a dull occie’.’
True. Sunday is too far away.
I’m surprised Alan Jones is subdued this time. But he’s doing his numbers bingo again.
Alan Jones on Q#A saying BREXIT is nothing to worry about, putting the lie to Matthias Corman trying to use BREXIT to scare the punters about the economy. Too funny – the first time I ever cheered for Alan Jones = Matthias is making it worse for himself by talking over the top of Tania and interrupting her responses.
This is Gold for Labor.
What is Peta Credlin on about!?!
“It is very likely it
will be opposed by the Greens and Labor and Labor has got stronger in this campaign, not weaker.
“The government might claim a mandate but if Labor block it and the Greens block it in the upper house, what is plan B?
Yet she goes on to say,
She said Mr Turnbull should “stare down” Labor and the Greens because the public supported a plebiscite.
Which is as may be, however, the public also support, by a large margin, Same Sex Marriage. So what is she saying here? Stare down Labor and The Greens by getting around their attempts to block the enabling legislation in the Senate, hold the plebiscite somehow anyway but ignore the results in order to appease the Conservatives and keep peace in the Coalition!?!
I think Harry Houdini would applaud those sort of contortions if successful, if they are at all possible. Which I very much doubt.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/federal-election-2016-peta-credlin-predicts-coalition-chaos-on-gay-marriage-vote-20160627-gpt4wm.html#ixzz4CmUBE0Ee
Which reminds me POTSS how are you going with your explanation about why Di Natale is targetting Israel when there are dozens of really truly evil governments… oh, never mind…
Steele Blade
Yes, how dare the WW2 Generation have an opinion on being part of Europe. #Entitledoldwhitefolk
rogue scholar @ #863 Monday, June 27, 2016 at 10:13 pm
Funny you should say this. Across the Tasman, Turnbull’s counterpart John Key also downplayed Brexit on NZ.
Some voters here think there is an effect only because Turnbull said so.
C
It is hard to know what Ms Credlin is on about. It used to be the nation’s problem but it is now a problem for just about no-one.
AND NOW SHE IS DOING IT BACK TO HIM — GO TANIA
daretotread @ #616 Monday, June 27, 2016 at 5:37 pm
What alarmist rubbish.
The appropriate thing for governments is to downplay Brexit while quietly getting their policies ready to run when Brexit starts doing its dirty work.
boerwar @ #861 Monday, June 27, 2016 at 10:11 pm
Sunday bloody Sunday if Bluey keeps giving the tentacles up to the Coalition! : |
C
‘I have also heard aguments ( I am NOT saying I agree with them) that Europe was starting to seek control over the military of nations as a foreunner to a major attack on Russia.’
Major BS, IMO.
boerwar @ #868 Monday, June 27, 2016 at 10:16 pm
Bar the Conservative wingnut division of the Coalition and their fellow travellers in the Tongues Speakers Union.
‘rummel
Monday, June 27, 2016 at 10:15 pm
Steele Blade
Yes, how dare the WW2 Generation have an opinion on being part of Europe. #Entitledoldwhitefolk’
It was mainly the old farts who denied action on global warming. They were perfectly entitled, of course, but they cannot escape the criticism that they destroyed the future for the younger generations.
C
Yes, it is still all hubble bubble toil and trouble from that direction.
teh_drewski @ #620 Monday, June 27, 2016 at 5:40 pm
Great post!
bemused @ #877 Monday, June 27, 2016 at 10:21 pm
Seconded.
[They were perfectly entitled, of course, but they cannot escape the criticism that they destroyed the future for the younger generations.]
Yep, two German futures. lol
Drinking game
Matthias says “headwinds”
Do your maths Rummel, they are not the WW2 generation.
boerwar @ #844 Monday, June 27, 2016 at 9:51 pm
The Gs have done their pro-Lib whistling. Interestingly, the G voters I’ve met have usually been quite reserved about saying so…as if it’s a bit of a naughty secret. Their choice is not resting easily with them. I suspect it’s the guilt-making. You cannot build the strongest franchise on guilt, shame and damnation. Besides, they have a lot of competition from the Clappers, the other Neo-Christians and the RWNJs.
Before the rise of mass democracy, the Wesleyans and the Calvinists tried to use shame to build their movements. The Puritans too. The Catholics have sins for every day of the week but they also have pleasure, forgiveness and redemption. I think the Gs are the radical clerics of our era but their congregations are already marrying out. Mass conversions – such as those that followed the Franklin – are just not on the cards right now. Shame and penitence are going at a discount. No-one will run out of them. There is a glut of regret. It’s falling like the pound. Even fear is over-supplied right now.
Boerwar
Monday, June 27, 2016 at 9:05 pm
Hi Mari if you are lurking:
Some relations just sent a message from Kefalonia. ‘Dinner was white wine with mussels followed by a dip in the Ionian Sea. We could get used to this.
Just logged on, after swimming in the Agean sea beautiful today. Had mussels done in white wine last week after swimming at Pollonia in Milos , your relations are right could get used to this
Raaraa
Monday, June 27, 2016 at 10:16 pm
Funny you should say this. Across the Tasman, Turnbull’s counterpart John Key also downplayed Brexit on NZ.
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Some voters here think there is an effect only because Turnbull said so. Jones doing his talk back saying BREXIT is nothing in NSW will help in NSW marginals along with his willingness to bag TURNBULL’S Govt cause he hates him for canning the Abbott,, Go get em Jones !! Too fun ny.
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This issue might be a reason why 35% remained UNDECIDED after the last Newspoll which happened AFTER Brexit happened —
BB
What the fuck q and a! Tanya vs 4 right wing stooges. On election eve show. They serious. All of them arguing for company tax cuts. Ffs. As much as labor suck ass, this is a corruption of the abc b4 our very eyes.
[Do your maths Rummel, they are not the WW2 generation.]
Are they all dead?
bemused @ #877 Monday, June 27, 2016 at 10:21 pm
Or what is worse…bring immigrants in under 457 Visas and Student Visas, allow profits to go overseas and not into the Treasury as taxes, undermine the social safety net, and blame the Labor Party for the measures you ‘have’ to take to compensate for your actions.
KEVIN-ONE-SEVEN
Monday, June 27, 2016 at 10:02 pm
and turnbull has got away without three town hall leader’s meets – quel joke – and shorten seems to have obliged him or let him do so
Idiotic. You mean Shorten was supposed to kidnap him and drag him along. Seriously.
—-sometimes i despair at comments here – of course not drag him, but yes berate and embarrass and make a big issue out of it – exploit – if shorten knows how to do this kind of thing ….. and dont appear on bloody facebook stunts organised by mal
I know it’s all just a bit of fun, but I’ve stopped reading Bluey since he decided to rewrite history on the number of days the Liberals have won. From memory it should be about 40, not 60.
It’s one thing to declare the Liberals the winner because of some fluke outcome on the other side of the world. But it’s quite another to deny Shorten and the Labor party the recognition that they deserve for the terrific fight they have put up over the last eight weeks.
on medicare – labor framed issue wrong – overstated or mis-stated – they need to say on oath or however that medicare will become ineffective, that hospitals about to collapse along with state schools – the ads are doing this and they are spot on raising medicare need to pursue in right terms
The youngest WWII veterns, assuming that they were about 17 in 1945, are now in their late 80s. Most would be in their 90s.
I don’t think the Treaty will affect the Constitution Recognition referendum in any way. It could be legislated separate from it.
Darn yes Labor have won the campaign even if they lose the war.
Rummel, “the generation that stormed the beaches” we’re born in 1926 at the very latest. That makes the youngest of them 90 right now. A minuscule fraction of the over-65 “leave” vote were from the Greatest Generation. No, “leavers” we’re overwhelmingly the children of the Greatest Generation, ie, the Baby Boomers born from 1945-1960.
Actually I think they lost the plot once they over-egged MediScare. It was just too blatant.
Boo bloody hoo Marcia Langton.
This so called Indigenous leader can shove her cries about poor aborigines after she defends this govt. giving $50billion for business tax cuts.
Now she decides to slag off Bill Shorten because he mentioned a treaty (after being asked mind you)
Is it any wonder the plight of indigenous people never improves when you have sell outs like this stupid woman held up as leaders in the community.
Next time she sooks that services have been slashed to Indigenous affairs she should shut her trap and remember her support for a $50billion giveaway mainly to foreign shareholders.
Blueys big jump in the number of tory days won is probably a metaphor for the media. Opinions/reports don’t have to have any connection to reality or previous events because they are the media and who would dare question them, certainly not others in the media.
See I have been blocked on twitter by Mark Kenny, joining an ever increasing of tweeters. May have something to do with calling him brownnoser Kenny? My spellcheck automatically puts the description in for me now 😀
teh_drewski @ #620 Monday, June 27, 2016 at 5:40 pm
Absolutely correct.
Modern economies work best when they have both strong & effective safety nets and labour mobility. These propel growth. It’s really not complex or controversial.