The News Corporation tabloids take a second bite of the Galaxy cherry in successive weekends, to mark the occasion of the looming Liberal leadership spill. It confirms last week’s shattering result for Tony Abbott in putting the Labor lead at 57-43. The inevitable questions on voting intention under Malcolm Turnbull and Julie Bishop aren’t quite as dramatic as ReachTEL’s, with Labor maintaining leads of 51-49 under a Turnbull scenario and 53-47 under Bishop. On a straight question of whether Tony Abbott should resign, 55% say yes and 35% say no, in case anyone’s wondering what might distinguish this leadership change from what happened in 2010. Primary votes and such to follow. HT: GhostWhoVotes.
UPDATE: All primary votes were perfectly unchanged on last week, with the Coalition on 36%, Labor on 43%, the Greens on 11% and Palmer United on 3%. A further question found only 24% anticipating that Tony Abbott would lead the Liberals to the next election, compared with 63% who believe he will not.
sohar:
Labor haven’t needed to say anything. The unhinging from the coalition has said all that needs to be conveyed to voters.
Wakefield
[It is not the job of journos to destroy politicians – the job is to question them so we can judge whether we will destroy them.]
Correct, and as soon as they start insistently doing that, inevitably comparing their current claims to past documented claims and behaviour, much of the criticism will ease. Right now, ‘journalism’ is more like a new scene in Groundhog Day, in which the protagonist can say and do as he pleases because nobody else recalls yesterday.
alias:
This Liberal leadership drama is certainly compelling viewing.
Labor has said a few simple things on twitter.
Thats been it. Like this one.
Whose job is @TonyAbbottMHR trying to save tonight? South Australian shipbuilders, or his own? #brokenpromise #auspol
Labor knows it will have QT and a strategy going for whomever is PM
alias
Chris Kenny saying….and I quote…..“We are watching the death throes of the Abbott Prime Ministership” says Mordor has thrown him under the bus.
Any hints on the Newspoll for those who have Sky News?
Yes Confessions.. I am quite surprised, in a way, how these sort of occasions consume me completely. When I first wake in the morning, I wonder “what’s happened on the Abbott front?”. Can’t get enough of it. Need that adrenaline.
And frankly when it all ends – let’s say with Abbott’s deposing – then I know I will feel rather flat after the initial fascination at watching how the defeated warrior takes his demise.
Poroti
Slight quibble. There were no buses in Mordor. Oliphants yes, buses no.
Briggs saying that Sean Edwards is misrepresenting the ‘deal’ with the PM. Seems a bizarre way of maintaining his support.
Dave @894:
I know – the ABC made this bed of nails for themselves when they refused to push back against constant catcalls of “bias!” emanating from the Right, as well as the commercial media.
alias@900
He is utterly desperate to enmesh Shorten and Labor in this, but it is just hand waving attempt to try and get people to *look over there !*
He will say and do anything to change the topic.
His own side are pissed off because – the simmering discontent about the PMO and COS who are unelected yet have had an iron clad veto over the elected members etc for almost 5 years.
Voters are pissed of because – the lies, lies about lies, broken promises and how people apparently heard promises other than the ones abbott made. The refusal to admit such serial porkies.
This describes the situation to a *T* – Self Inflicted –
Intriguing poroti .. thanks for passing that on. I love the uncertainty of this. Will Abbott be PM this time tomorrow? Who really knows. It’s thrilling. I used to spend quite a lot of time waiting for criminal juries to return with verdicts, and there was nothing like a case where there was a genuine doubt – which way will it go?
guytaur
Damned pedants !! 🙂
[Is Labor keeping out of it, or is the ABC keeping Labor out of it?]
The only thing Labor want if for the Libs to squib changing. Can’t exactly go out there and say that though, so best to stay schtum.
Yes dave completely self-inflicted. There’s this amazing gulf between the vast number who understand how dire is Abbott’s position and the seeming inclination of many Liberal MPs to “play it safe” (sic) by sticking with Abbott. (Very amused by the tweet which said: “I’m sticking with Tony because I missed the 1950s the first time around.”
Chris Kenny has Jamie Briggs on. What a mealy-mouthed piece of work he is!
I heard Cory Bernardi interviewed on arrival at Canberra airport. While mouthing the usual stuff about the people electing the PM, he made it very clear that his support was time limited. He said wtte that it was not right to sack a first term PM so early in their term.
What I heard was that Abbott is being given one last chance to turn things around. Even a terrible Newspoll in the circumstances can be dismissed (with some justification) as a product of the leadersh1t speculation.
I think Abbott will survive tomorrow, but unless he can reinvent his essential being he is on political death row and there will be no more reprieves.
alias:
I reckon Abbott might survive tomorrow, as ridiculous as that may sound given the opportunity the Liberal partyroom has at present to dispose of his leadership once and for all.
But I guess that means the issue will live to fight another day in a few months time. Let’s say budget time and the prospect of another nightmare with the Senate x-benchers who would be salivating at the prospect of messing with his head a little more.
[Is Labor keeping out of it, or is the ABC keeping Labor out of it?]
Golly gosh , all Labor has to do at the mo is worry about running out of popcorn.
Any chance Edwards is in the anti-Abbott camp and deliberately leaked the “deal” to show how desperate Abbott is.
Wakefield,
Have you noticed the ABC say anything at all in living memory about the NBN, and about the clear, factual differences between the network Labor was building with future proof technology, and the clearly temporary nature of the one Turnbull is string together?
Nope? Didn’t think so. Complete failure to do its job and go and report on actual policy details.
BK:
Tsk, that’s your delightful local member!
If Abbott survives tomorrow it will be the delusion that the ideology is correct and the polls will turn around.
How many are not rusted on to the IPA agenda will be shown in the vote
The Libs are more terrified of looking like the ALP than having a chance of holding power.
Panel with Miranda Devine and Samantha Maiden coming up. *switches off*
I have this sneaking feeling the subs think might “torpedo” Abbott as the enormity of this sinks in overnight. It really does look desperate, and given the scale of the project involved, fantastically reckless – changing policy on the run for a vote or two. Makes Abbott’s offer of a billion dollar hospital for Hobart when negotiating in 2010 look like small change.
poroti,
They’ve organised a fresh shipment of popcorn.
http://maritime-connector.com/worlds-largest-ships/
[Slight quibble. There were no buses in Mordor. Oliphants yes, buses no.]
That was under the old regime; they were hopelessly pro-private transport. These days you can get the Cirith Ungol – Barad Dur express, or the suburban via Gorgoroth and Mt Doom.
Cud Chewer @921:
If any part of the mainstream media has talked about the difference between broadband and fraudband in any depth, I’ve missed it!
The ABC has been neither better nor worse than the commercial broadcast media on that point…
Abbott probably lied about the submarines. The SA Liberal heard what he thought Abbott promised, not what he really did.
Newspoll 41-59 to Labor
Ghost 41-59
I’m pretty sure, the worst Newspoll under Gillard was 42-58.
Noooooo Albo. Stop slagging off Truffles. Wait until tomorrow.
41-59? Jesus wept!
Dead, buried and cremated …
sohar@932
That is going to stir the pot a little!
That should stiffen a few spines
Sohar
I have checked out ghosts twitter stream. Nothing there re newspoll
https://mobile.twitter.com/ghostwhovotes
Victoria, stop spoiling the party!
Victoria, likewise. Nothing on twitter.
There a link to Newspoll? Twitter has nothing.
Same here Vic
It’s way way too early to get headlines.
sohar@932
Do you have a link?
Okay. Folks just having a lend.
Resume normal stations peoples.
confessions
I do NOT need any reminding thank you very much!
I don’t believe 59-41
No its not