GhostWhoVotes tweets that Newspoll has the Coalition two-party vote up a point, putting their lead at 56-44. Primary votes are 31% for Labor (down one), 47% for Coalition (up one) and 10% for the Greens (steady). With both up two points, Tony Abbott’s lead over Julia Gillard as preferred prime minister shifts from 40-35 to 42-37. On personal ratings, Gillard is down a point on approval to 29% and up one on disapproval to 61%, with Tony Abbott steady on 36% and down two to 51%.
Also out today:
• Essential Research has the Coalition lead up from 55-45 to 56-44, from primary votes of 48% for the Coalition (steady), 33% for Labor (down one) and 9% for the Greens (steady). There are also numerous questions on national debt, led off by the finding that 48% are aware that Australia’s is relatively low compared to other countries against 25% who believe otherwise. However, 46% believe the main reason for Australia’s debt is that the “government are poor economic managers”, against 26% for the world economy and 17% for the high dollar. Same-sex marriage has been gauged for the second time in a fortnight, showing 58% support (up four on last time) and 32% opposition (down one).
• ReachTEL has conducted a national poll for the Seven Network with a big sample of 2856, which has the Coalition lead up from 57-43 in the April 12 poll to 58-42. The primary votes are 29.3% for Labor (down 2.0% on the April 12 result), 48.8% for the Coalition (down 1.3%) and 10.2% for the Greens. Questions on the NDIS find 52.6% supporting a Medicare levy raise to fund it against 33.6% opposed, but 41.2% saying the announcement has made them less likely to vote Labor against 26.3% more likely, which you may well find hard to square. Asked which of the two leaders respondents “trust most to deliver the National Disability Insurance Scheme successfully”, 57.3% opted for Tony Abbott and 42.7% for Julia Gillard (obviously after removing the undecided).
• The latest weekly Morgan multi-mode poll has moved in Labor’s favour, which is probably a correction after a Coalition blowout last time. Labor is up 1.5% on the primary vote to 32%, the Coalition down two to 46% and the Greens down 2.5% to 8.5%. The Coalition lead is 56-44 on both respondent-allocated and previous election preferences, down from 58-46 and 56.5-43.5 respectively.
[Mod Lib
Posted Wednesday, May 8, 2013 at 7:38 pm | PERMALINK
Centre
Posted Wednesday, May 8, 2013 at 7:31 pm | PERMALINK
……By the way, if Hockey has had some surgery to his stomach to lose weight, I’d suggest to readers DON’T DO IT.
I’d suggest to readers DON’T TAKE MEDICAL ADVICE FROM CENTRE]
lol why not?
Watched both Ch10 and Ch7 news here in Brisbane and they both covered the NDIS signing. Perhaps QLD doesn’t count south of the Tweed.
Mod Lib
That’s what I was told by a female nurse I know 😛 (she’s a better sort than you) 😈
Besides look how weak Hockey looks 😯
Hockey is stressed trying to keep up with the disappearing money.
rummel:
Bariatric surgery is the most effective therapy for morbid obesity.
It is MUCH more effective than diet or exercise or diet and exercise. It has been shown to improve and occasionally cure Type 2 diabetes and has very encouraging medium term results.
I would be flabbergasted if it didn’t get substantial public funding in the near future as it will save much more money in the long term than it costs.
That’s not what Newman said, Mod Lib, he acknowledged that he preferred it funded by the medicare levy but gave full credit to the PM.
You see, not everybody wants to play politics on such an important initiative.
[Perhaps QLD doesn’t count south of the Tweed.]]
😀
Or west of the Great Divide.
Yes, he is a can do kinda guy
I’ll pay that Confessions 😉
Mod Lib
Absolute Poppycock!
Nothing is more effective than diet and exercise. It’s for losers like Hockey who have no determination to achieve goals.
Diet and exercise will lose you body fat – but maintain muscle. That will certainly cure diabetes as much if not more than an op.
But with diet and exercise you can wear budgies 😈
Darn
All I wish is some people here would snap out of this thing where every time Abbott does something, it’s “his latest downfall” and whenever Gillard does something it’s “her latest ingenious scheme that’s going to work because she’s brilliant.”
In regards to the Rudd stuff, people will make up their own minds. Personally, I’m just constantly surprised that so many who support Gillard can’t appreciate that Rudd is immune to the sort of vitriol they spew at him again and again and again and that it “whiteants” Gillard’s leadership more than anything Rudd could ever do deliberately.
Centre:
It’s true that the type of surgery Hockey had has been shown to be beneficial for morbidly obese patients.
The question, I suppose, is whether Hockey qualified as morbidly obese. I guess that’s an issue for him and his treating physician.
However, from the snapshot I saw of him on the news tonight he did not look well. Whether he has a cold or the flu or is simply suffering from the constant anger and distortions being part of Abbott’s front bench demands of him is something else again.
Prime Minister Julia Gillard amid the throngs at Marsden State High School in Brisbane’s south.
One very disappointed student, close to tears, denied media reports that she had thrown a sandwich at the PM. She cannot be named, but said she had been unable to get close enough to PM Gillard and in desperation had tossed her specially prepared Welsh delicacy towards the PM. The student said her grandparents had come to Australia from Wales and they and her entire family were absolutely loving the PM and were so proud and pleased to have a common bond with her.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/was-it-sandwichgate-or-just-one-naughty-boy-20130508-2j7lp.html#ixzz2Sh4eRqZ2
Look it was a vegamite sandwich, surly that is important.
Chris Riches @chris8875 1h
MSM can’t cover proper policy discussions/analysis, but boy they can cover a sandwich throwing yarn. Fucking pathetic. #auspol
At last the Rudd and Gillard camps are united!
One common strategy for the ALP going forward: wishing people will “snap out of it”.
[I would be flabbergasted if it didn’t get substantial public funding in the near future as it will save much more money in the long term than it costs]
I would be flabbergasted if it did get substantial public funding in the near future as it costs a packet to perform and health budgets are cut back to the bone. They are doing less and less bariatric operations in SA as the funding is being cut.
Health Ministers are much more interested in this years budget than in ten years time.
Ch7 hasn’t reported the Qld NDIS deal.
Seems Qld really is another world away.
Connie
If Hockey was capable of getting on the footy field for a game of Rugby, he didn’t need the op.
Hockey does not have the determination to achieve goals – in fact he’s a failure, both politically and when it comes to his body 😉
For most people with a weight problem, diet and exercise is, if not a miracle cure, certainly very effective. I should know, I’ve lost weight lots of times. But it’s very hard to change the habits of a lifetime. I’m just glad I didn’t take up smoking as a teenager.
When I was in school, there were very few overweight kids. Now there are lots. Until the last couple of generations overrating and a sedentary lifestyle were not an option except for the wealthy. We are evolved to cope with famine but not for material plenty. So at least in the battle of the bulge I can sympathise with my local member, the shadow Treasurer.
[Prime Minister Julia Gillard amid the throngs at Marsden State High School in Brisbane’s south.
One very disappointed student, close to tears, denied media reports that she had thrown a sandwich at the PM. She cannot be named, but said she had been unable to get close enough to PM Gillard and in desperation had tossed her specially prepared Welsh delicacy towards the PM. The student said her grandparents had come to Australia from Wales and they and her entire family were absolutely loving the PM and were so proud and pleased to have a common bond with her.]
oops the gardian got it wrong. Wasn’t even vegamite
Thanks for that, crikey. So sandwichgate was a media beat-up? I should’ve known.
Diogs
I made a post asking “where the hell is Diogs re posts 1555 and 1560 when you need him” but it disappeared.
What happens, there’s Diogs at 1566 😯
Heart. 2012 Dec;98(24):1763-77. doi: 10.1136/heartjnl-2012-301778. Epub 2012 Oct 17.
Bariatric surgery and cardiovascular outcomes: a systematic review.
Vest AR, Heneghan HM, Agarwal S, Schauer PR, Young JB.
Source
Heart and Vascular Institute, Cleveland Clinic, Cleveland, OH 44195, USA.
Abstract
PURPOSE:
To quantify the impact of bariatric surgery on cardiovascular (CV) risk factors, and on cardiac structure and function.
DATA SOURCES:
Three major databases (PubMed, Medline and Cochrane) were searched for original studies written in English.
STUDY SELECTION:
Original articles reporting CV risk factors or non-invasive imaging parameters for patients undergoing bariatric surgery, from January 1950 to June 2012.
DATA EXTRACTION:
Data extraction from selected studies was based on protocol-defined criteria that included study design, methods, patient characteristics, surgical procedures, weight loss, changes in CV risk factors, cardiac structure and cardiac function postoperatively.
DATA SYNTHESIS:
73 CV risk factor studies involving 19 543 subjects were included (mean age 42 years, 76% female). Baseline prevalence of hypertension, diabetes and hyperlipidaemia were 44%, 24%, and 44%, respectively. Mean follow-up was 57.8 months (range 3-176) and average excess weight loss was 54% (range 16-87%). Postoperative resolution/improvement of hypertension occurred in 63% of subjects, of diabetes in 73% and of hyperlipidaemia in 65%. Echocardiographic data from 713 subjects demonstrated statistically significant improvements in left ventricular mass, E/A ratio, and isovolumic relaxation time postoperatively.
LIMITATIONS:
Diagnostic criteria, CV risk factor reporting, and imaging parameters were not uniform across all studies. Study groups were heterogeneous in their demographics, operative technique and follow-up period.
CONCLUSIONS:
This systematic review highlights the benefits of bariatric surgery in reducing risk factors for CV disease. There is also evidence for left ventricular hypertrophy regression and improved diastolic function. These observations provide further evidence that bariatric surgery enhances future CV health for obese individuals.
Centre
Your nurse is right about muscle loss as well as fat loss but overall the long term results are good. It shouldn’t be seen as a panacea as its quite risky surgery.
“Surgery results in greater weight loss than conventional treatment in moderate (body mass index greater than 30) as well as severe obesity. Reductions in comorbidities, such as diabetes and hypertension, also occur. Improvements in health-related quality of life occurred after two years, but effects at ten years are less clear.”
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD003641.pub3/abstract
Alex Ferguson retiring as Man U coach.
A truly amazing career.
confessions@1567
Ah, but they did report about the sandwich though. They know their priorities.
Hockey actually gets it that the Coalition has a bad case of policy cognitive dissonance: aka policy brainfart mishmash.
So his head hurts.
[davidwh
Posted Wednesday, May 8, 2013 at 7:46 pm | Permalink
Hockey is stressed trying to keep up with the disappearing money.]
No David. He’s worried about how he is going to be able to fill in Abbott’s $70 billion black hole. 😆
[I would be flabbergasted if it didn’t get substantial public funding in the near future as it will save much more money in the long term than it costs.]
ofcourse the hypocrisy of the right. always out there arguing for small govt and less tax. now you want the govt to stump un funding so obese people can keep their wieght under control. is it their own fault that they have eaten too much, drunk too many soft drinks and not exercised enough. how about some self control or self reliance rather than the state stumping up to help.
[Boerwar
Posted Wednesday, May 8, 2013 at 8:36 pm | Permalink
Hockey actually gets it that the Coalition has a bad case of policy cognitive dissonance: aka policy brainfart mishmash.
So his head hurts]
Very well said Boerwar. Couldn’t have put it better myself.
the spectator:
Is that your argument for not funding any surgery through the universal healthcare system?
There is precious little disease out there that cannot be directly linked with being naughty.
spectator
An awful lot of medical care is for fixing things that the patient has contributed to in some way.
Was the sandwich thrown at Gillard on plain bread, wholemeal or gluten free?
And did it have the crust or was it of the crust-free sharp corner variety?
[in fact he’s a failure, both politically and when it comes to his body]
But any mention of Gillard’s appearance is sexist, yeah?
[the spectator:
Is that your argument for not funding any surgery through the universal healthcare system?
There is precious little disease out there that cannot be directly linked with being naughty.]
No that is not my argument at all. hYou suggested the govt should fund biatric surgery for people who have overindulged. I was merely highlighting the hypocrisy of such a position coming from the right who are forever arguing about small govt and less tax. This is the ultimate in self control and self reliance. Anyway the people who should pay for this are fast food companies and soft drink companies who should pay a percentage of their profits into a fund to cover such outcomes from the consumption of their products.
The thing about folk who throw things is that they are hopeless:
Reporter throwing shoes (x2) @ George W Bush: missed
Guy throwing stuff @ Howard: missed
Kid throwing vegemite sanger @ Gillard: missed
….where do they get these guys? The Australian cricket team?
I’m not too concerned about the media focus on the sandwich …rather than the signing…
Voters are not happy when our PM is publicly dis-respected …and this will be the final wash-up after the trivia side-show has died down. Additionally it shows our MSM are totally incapable of focusing on the things important to people when they turn up to cast their vote on Sept 14th. People will look elsewhere for their daily dose of reality as the sideshow fails to satisfy with it’s numbingly repetitive & ultimately meaningless message.
During the election campaign nothing will deflect from the glaringly obvious fact that Abbott has ZERO policies & will do absolutely ZILCH if he’s elected …except of course cut & repeal. If the ‘spend-thrift’ Govt we now have is prepared to reduce expenditure BEFORE the election …WTF does an Abbott led Govt have in mind for the struggling punters AFTER?
The rhetoric coming from all the Liberal megaphones is becoming ever more shrill …the exaggeration more comical. The underlying FEAR is beginning to show. Look at Hockey as he huffs & puffs …stands on tiptoe …inhales deeply and goes full tilt with his anger & confected indignation. You can actually imagine the steam shooting out of both ears as he works himself into a sweat (literally). He’s turned himself into Alan Moir’s cartoon character.
No …the opposition are looking anything but confident …their apparent hubris is a veneer hiding serious anxiety and knuckle-whitening/sphincter-tightening F.E.A.R.
The con is starting to wear a bit thin …and even Liberals are now coming out to question Abbott’s plans …for PPL & today for National Broadband. (The excellent website which demonstrates how much faster is Labor’s NBN vs Lib’s Fraudband, was set up by …A LIBERAL VOTER …Lol!!).
The upcoming election is the most fascinating one I can remember …and Labor isn’t being spooked into responding to Libs desperate and childish attempts to goad them into declaring their hand. Let them ‘win’ the ‘phoney war’ …Labor will win the real one.
[I was merely highlighting the hypocrisy of such a position coming from the right who are forever arguing about small govt and less tax.]
It will result in less tax as it will save us money in healthcare costs down the track (at least it looks like that will be the outcome, it has not been directly proven yet.
[This is the ultimate in self control and self reliance. ]
The idea that we should not cover anything that can be avoided with self control and self reliance is exactly the point I was making above- that would save pretty much the entire health budget.
[Anyway the people who should pay for this are fast food companies and soft drink companies who should pay a percentage of their profits into a fund to cover such outcomes from the consumption of their products.]
I have no problem with a fat tax.
[No …the opposition are looking anything but confident …their apparent hubris is a veneer hiding serious anxiety and knuckle-whitening/sphincter-tightening F.E.A.R.]
markjs:
Is this serious or tongue in cheek?
William:
When can we expect the updated Bludgertrack?
I know you can push it over the triple digits with a little creative accountancy / random number generation! 🙂
@Mod Lib/1589
Perhaps we should have an Alcohol Tax, and Cigarette Tax, A Gambling tax,
There for your point is not invalid.
To Single out a group of people is not the way to go.
Sean Tisme
[Was the sandwich thrown at Gillard on plain bread, wholemeal or gluten free?
And did it have the crust or was it of the crust-free sharp corner variety
]
For a habitabunt sub ponte type chap you do a fine summary of the meeja as she is at the mo 🙂
http://www.abc.net.au/elections/tas/2013/legislativecouncil/nelson_result.htm
How do you have a two candidate preferred result with three candidates Antony?????
The student responsible has been suspended for not throwing the Sanka at the PM.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/sandwich-thrown-as-students-mob-prime-minister-julia-gillard-at-marsden-high/story-e6frfkp9-1226637549328
Suspended for 15 days for throwing a sanger at Australia’s worst PM in history?!?!
Love the video footage… body guards yelling “better keep walking Prime Minister”
Vegemite Sandwich Threat level has increased from Amber to Red!
[The idea that we should not cover anything that can be avoided with self control and self reliance is exactly the point I was making above- that would save pretty much the entire health budget.]
So you are for big govt then. At what point does the state move away and leave to the individual to take care of their own health concerns. I am confused by this small govt less tax approach where you are now arguing for stomach stapling. what next cosmetic surgery because it makes me feel better and I dont get depressed and wont be a burden on the hospital system. I mean a line in the sand has to be drawn surely and if you want biatric surgery you fund it out of your own pocket.
[I have no problem with a fat tax.]
No that would be a great big new tax
Well at least it was a Vegemite sanka.
[No that would be a great big new tax]
🙂
…or a great new “big tax”!
[what next cosmetic surgery]
….bariatric surgery is not cosmetic surgery, although it has a cosmetic outcome.
It is more effective than diet or exercise or medications or anything else that we have to offer.
It reduces, and in some patients, it cures diabetes and other cardiovascular outcomes.
I am just suggesting it is a good idea because it would save money, improve health, and save lives. I am not supporting it because it will make people look better.