Resolve Strategic: Labor 35, Coalition 34, Greens 12 (open thread)

The Coalition primary vote lifts off the canvas in what remains the strongest federal polling series for Labor.

The monthly Resolve Strategic poll in the Age/Herald has the Coalition up four points on the primary vote to 34% without taking a bite out of Labor’s 35%, the balance coming from drops of one point for the Greens to 12%, two for One Nation to 5% and one for the United Australia Party to 1%. The pollster does not provide two-party preferred numbers but I get it to 54.6-45.4 to Labor – a seemingly solid result for Labor, but just shading the June poll as its weakest since the election, in line with the broader trend when Resolve’s skew to Labor relative to other pollsters is accounted for.

Anthony Albanese is down three on approval to 36% and up two on disapproval to 48%, while Peter Dutton is respectively down one to 34% and up two to 42%. Preferred prime minister is little changed at 42-28 in Albanese’s favour, compared with 40-27 last month. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1605, and will presumably be followed over the next few days by a bi-monthly read of Victorian voting intention combining results from this poll and last month’s.

Also out yesterday was the weekly Roy Morgan poll has Labor’s lead back to 51-49 after moving three points in their favour to 52.5-45 last week. The primary votes are Labor 32.5% (up half a point), Coalition 37.5% (up two-and-a-half), Greens 12.5% (down one) and One Nation 5% (steady). The poll was conducted last Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1730.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. The Nine Newspapers must be fairly certain they have a water tight case against Jones. Given that much of the alleged action occurred whilst he was at 2GB (which is part of the Nine Media group), they are likely to be on the hook for significant compensation for their employee who was allegedly abused.

  2. S.Simpson

    There is a perception within the Murdoch Megaphone that Albo is always overseas instead of tending to domestic issues.

    There, fixed it for you. You’re welcome.

  3. In February 2021, the Guardian tells us that ” Scott Morrison has doubled down on claims his office knew nothing of the alleged 2019 rape of staffer Brittany Higgins”.

    Today we heard Ben Dillaway say under oath that he unsuccessfully attempted to get support for Ms Higgins from the PM’s staff because of a significant delay in getting support the official way, from the EAP.

    I wonder who is right, Scomo or Mr Dillaway?

  4. Irene @ Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 6:43 pm:

    “I am wrong. The LNP hold only 55 electorates.
    Impossible to win government from there. You would think.
    Still AUKUS supported by Labor which is designed to be used to attack China will not go down well with Chinese ancestry voters.”
    =================

    Not sure how former Liberal PM Scomo’s brainfart, enthusiastically barracked for ever since at every opportunity by every Liberal MP who’s ever spoken on it, is going to be some ‘wunderwaffe’ vote harvester for the Liberals among that demographic…

  5. For those readers of the Daily Dutton, like FUBSR, who only get their news from that organ – here is something you won’t read there..

    The News Corp settlement
    Under the News Corp settlement, also released by the Federal Court on Wednesday, News Life Media agreed to pay Lehrmann $295,000 as a contribution towards his legal costs.

    “Without admission of liability, the parties have reached a commercial resolution of the claim,” the deed says.

    News Corp agreed to publish an editor’s note on two News.com.au articles by Samantha Maiden in the following terms: “Mr Lehrmann commenced defamation proceedings claiming that this article accused him of sexually assaulting Brittany Higgins.

    “These proceedings were discontinued and settled on terms satisfactory to Mr Lehrmann and the publisher of this website. News.com.au notes that a criminal charge of sexual assault was brought against Mr Lehrmann and later dropped. News.com.au does not suggest that Mr Lehrmann was guilty of that charge.”

    Lehrmann had claimed the News Corp articles, which did not hame him, wrongly alleged he raped Higgins.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/abc-paid-150-000-to-settle-lehrmann-defamation-claim-20231206-p5epns.html

  6. So Taylor Swift won Time Magazine person of the year over contenders King Charles, Vladimir Putin and Barbie.

    While I don’t begrudge Swift her glory, surely the model is broken when King Charles, Vladimir Putin and Barbie are all contenders for Time Magazine person of the year.

  7. Contrived nonsense abounds and not just on PB.
    Thankfully 70% of the voting population are remaining rational and are conversant with the reality of the depths of corruption of previous liberal/national governments and the remediation necessary to return federal governance to honest and open transparency.
    It’s understandable that a Teals breakaway has established a foothold in the political environment, condemning any forthcoming liberal hopes for government till such time as the liberals have expunged the infestation of self centred vermin from their self entitlement and gated club.
    “the voters always get it right” will prove a reliable adage.

  8. Confessions,
    the idea is that they are people (used loosely in the case of Barbie) who have had the most influence, good or bad, over the past 12 months. Although it also provides a great opportunity for trolling the internet.

  9. As fun as I recall it being teasing Tories about Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison, having endured Rudd/Gillard/Rudd, I think those of you suggesting we’re going to see more of those shenanigans should take a cold shower.

    I’ll go further: I think the more you and the media carry on about it the less likely it is to happen, and the ultimate outcome will be improved opinions of Labor for not putting the country through yet another self-indulgent act of electoral desperation.

    I may be wrong, of course.

    But in my view the Federal Parliamentary Labor Party owes it to itself, it’s members and the country to hold its nerve and act with a modicum of dignity.

  10. Simonsays:
    Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 7:46 pm
    Confessions,
    the idea is that they are people (used loosely in the case of Barbie) who have had the most influence, good or bad, over the past 12 months. Although it also provides a great opportunity for trolling the internet.
    ————————————————————————
    Maybe they should have given it to Kissinger. Dying was probably the best thing he did in life. “Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it”. Though i suspect his deeds will be remembered for along time. “The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones.”. So no need for any extra capacity in that coffin.

  11. @Rewi

    While that is a noble view, it’s probably going to be hard when most people check in on the news out of curiosity about local events, world events or even just the weather, 90% of the time they’re confronted with screechings of “God, Labor just fucking sucks so much, why don’t they just resign or die already?!” no matter what members of the Labor government says or does.

  12. Abbott and Turnbull feud which has been going so long before politics ( Republic referendum) in and out of politics will not end anytime soon,
    Turnbull head of the call for the royal commission into Murdoch media ,and Abbott is recommended to join Murdochs foxnews board

    The feud may get more uglier


  13. Confessionssays:
    Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 7:10 pm
    So Taylor Swift won Time Magazine person of the year over contenders King Charles, Vladimir Putin and Barbie.

    While I don’t begrudge Swift her glory, surely the model is broken when King Charles, Vladimir Putin and Barbie are all contenders for Time Magazine person of the year.

    So true Confessions.
    Not only that ‘title’ is reduced to a joke. In future I will never any weight or consideration to Time magazine ‘Person of the year ‘ not that I have given it in past.

  14. I saw James Massola having a bit of a sook on twitter yesterday re: the AG question. firing up on his very grave and important whataboutism.

    The thing that makes me laugh, because of the work of others they honestly think of themselves as reporters, or, journalists.

    They are just content creators trying to maximise engagement, and on that basis Olivia Caisley was very successful yesterday.

    The benefit of this however, if the content creators and engagement drivers continue to refer to themselves as journalists or reporters and go a bit further and claim they are defenders of the Fourth Estate… A perpetual motion machine might be created with my eye rolling.

  15. Rewi – I have always been a supporter of the die standing than live on ur knees approach.

    Still the peeps ur talking about aren’t exactly profiles in courage?

    The labor ministry skews old (50 plus) and have got ministries after nearly 10 yrs of waiting.

    If they think Albo is going down – they won’t hesitate. It’s not like they can wait another couple of terms to get a shot?

  16. Sigil says:
    Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 8:23 pm
    I saw James Massola having a bit of a sook on twitter yesterday re: the AG question. firing up on his very grave and important whataboutism.

    The thing that makes me laugh, because of the work of others they honestly think of themselves as reporters, or, journalists.

    They are just content creators trying to maximise engagement, and on that basis Olivia Caisley was very successful yesterday.

    The benefit of this however, if the content creators and engagement drivers continue to refer to themselves as journalists or reporters and go a bit further and claim they are defenders of the Fourth Estate… A perpetual motion machine might be created with my eye rolling.

    ___________________________________________

    So much “reporting” in Australia and overseas reminds me of the adage that “news is what they don’t want you to know; the rest is just publicity”. News Corp and, increasingly, Nine Entertainment are primarily in the publicity game – for themselves and for their favoured political party.

  17. steve davis @ #916 Thursday, December 7th, 2023 – 5:59 pm

    Mining companies are now joining the whingefest about changes to IR, calling Labor economic vandals.

    Some of them have already agreed to it, haven’t they?

    Predictably, this is the headline in The Australian:

    BHP says new IR laws will make Australia ‘more expensive’

    The Australian
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au › … › “News Story”
    3 hours ago — Mining giant BHP says Labor’s new industrial relations laws could cost it up to up to $1.3bn each year and make Australia “more expensive …

    Because, of course, they would prefer to be paying wages of $2/hour. Just ask Gina. 😐

  18. There is a national poll which says 62% of people say the transition to renewables is making their power bills more expensive. Only 12% say renewables are making their power bills cheaper. Only have to checkout what happened when Hazelwood shut down to confirm this fact.

  19. michael says:
    Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 9:19 pm
    There is a national poll which says 62% of people say the transition to renewables is making their power bills more expensive. Only 12% say renewables are making their power bills cheaper. Only have to checkout what happened when Hazelwood shut down to confirm this fact.

    __________________________________________

    My electricity is cheaper but my gas is more expensive. Apparently it’s because of the ACT’s early transition to renewables.

  20. michael @ #954 Thursday, December 7th, 2023 – 9:19 pm

    There is a national poll which says 62% of people say the transition to renewables is making their power bills more expensive. Only 12% say renewables are making their power bills cheaper. Only have to checkout what happened when Hazelwood shut down to confirm this fact.

    They’re obviously saying that because they’re clueless and spend too much time down the facebook frictionless rabbit hole. The evidence for this is in the data. When Renewables supply energy to the grid, the wholesale price decreases and may go negative. Also, the prices people are seeing now are a hangover from contracts signed last year. When, there was not much feed in from Renewables, compared to Coal and Gas, into the wholesale price calculation, which ends up in people’s bills. Labor have barely begun signing contracts for companies to supply Energy from Renewables into the grid, and build the Transmission Lines, which will end up being reflected in people’s energy bills.

  21. TPOF,
    James Massola must have been hugely disappointed when he turned on Channel 9 News this morning and they didn’t even mention his much-hyped AG imbroglio story. And that’s who he works for! 😆

  22. Lehrmann’s lawyer delving into the subconscious. Though if you are not conscious of something you can hardly answer questions on it.

    So are you accusing me of lying under oath?” Ms Irvine asked.

    “I’m not accusing you, I’m putting to you that maybe there are subconscious additions to your evidence,” Mr Whybrow responded.

    Ms Irvine rejected this proposition.

    “I don’t believe there’s any subconscious additions to my evidence.”

  23. Too bad, so sad, Little Kerry:

    The body in charge of Australia’s top journalism awards, The Walkley Foundation, has revoked the nomination of the Seven Network for its interview with Bruce Lehrmann in the Scoop of the Year category, following revelations the company covered Lehrmann’s rent for a year in exchange for exclusive access.

    And here’s an interesting factoid from the article:

    Seven’s two Lehrmann interviews netted metro overnight audiences of 600,000 and 516,000. The network said it Lehrmann has one more outstanding commitment to appear on the network.

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/seven-s-lehrmann-scoop-disqualified-from-walkley-awards-20231207-p5epvk.html

    Will they, or won’t they take him out for another attempt to colour the story?

  24. Still AUKUS supported by Labor which is designed to be used to attack China will not go down well with Chinese ancestry voters.

    So seeing we are such a diverse multicultural nation now, We can’t stand with our allies? and form alliances with them in our best interest?

  25. michael says:
    Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 9:19 pm
    There is a national poll which says 62% of people say the transition to renewables is making their power bills more expensive. Only 12% say renewables are making their power bills cheaper. Only have to checkout what happened when Hazelwood shut down to confirm this fact.

    __________________________________________
    Then 62% of Australians are wrong or the poll is. The Ukraine war made their energy bill higher. Renewables are bringing that cost back down. The wholesale price for electricity is back to what it was before the Ukraine war and likely to be heading lower. Due to how the electricity market operates these lower wholesale prices want flow through to retail prices till after June 2024. So retail electricity relief is about 6 months off. When it happens it will be another good news story for the Government.

    Wholesale electricity prices average (Australia not including WA):
    September Qtr 2021: $66 per megawatt hour (MWh)
    December Qtr 2021: $57 per megawatt hour (MWh)
    March Qtr 2022: $87 per megawatt hour (MWh)
    June Qtr 2022: $264 per megawatt hour (MWh)
    September Qtr 2022: $216 per megawatt hour (MWh)
    December Qtr 2022: $93 per megawatt hour (MWh)
    March Qtr 2023: $83 per megawatt hour (MWh)
    June Qtr 2023: $108 per megawatt hour (MWh)
    September Qtr 2023: $63 per megawatt hour (MWh)

    “AEMO said the National Electricity Market set a record low demand of 11,393MW at 12:30pm on 17 September, a 4.2% decrease from the previous record set in November 2022. Rooftop solar and grid-scale solar accounted for 57% of the total electricity supply in the National Electricity Market on that day.”

  26. GOP debate: Ron DeSantis saying Muslim men wear “man dresses” was not on any bingo card

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/12/6/2210200/-GOP-debate-Rob-DeSantis-saying-Muslim-men-wear-man-dresses-was-not-on-any-bingo-card?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web

    The fourth GOP primary debate was as stupid as the others. The debate, hosted by NewsNation and moderated by Megyn Kelly, Elizabeth Vargas and Eliana Johnson, devolved into conspiracy theories and confusing personal attacks.

    “Ron DeSantis, former lawyer for a Seal Team: “I don’t support having a truck driver having to pay a student loan for someone that got a degree in gender studies. That is wrong.””

  27. TPOF says:
    Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 9:25 pm
    My electricity is cheaper but my gas is more expensive. Apparently it’s because of the ACT’s early transition to renewables.

    Just had my 2 millionth marketing call from AGL… I said to the young woman.. I’ve had enough for the upteeth time.. please take me off the list or cancel AGL & go elsewhere … her comment AGL don’t care.. just let me read this promo & I can mark your account as requested.. I let her .. & am cancelling anyway.. I would cancel faster if Cannon Brooks bought it

  28. michael says:
    Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 9:19 pm
    “There is a national poll which says 62% of people say the transition to renewables is making their power bills more expensive. Only 12% say renewables are making their power bills cheaper. Only have to checkout what happened when Hazelwood shut down to confirm this fact.”

    The need for Labor to counter this sort of misinformation is eternal. It will exist as long as fossil fuel lobbyists and LNP media flakes exist.

    A decade of failure to invest in replacement of retiring coal plants meant any power option would face increased costs now. A world hike in gas prices thanks to the Ukraine War has exacerbated this.

  29. Socrates says:
    Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 10:05 pm

    Labor will have trouble winning that one.. as long as power companies show going green as the most expensive option.
    Instead of saying the green component of your existing bill is cheaper than non green option … the expensive bit is the coal generated component

  30. Nath

    “ Australia has the highest uptake of solar systems in the world. Around 32% up from 15% in 2018. Stunning figures really.”

    These days, with higher power and gas prices, solar PV is a great investment. The only problem is for renters and poorer families who can’t afford the upfront cost.

  31. Sceptic

    And that is the bit Labor have to counter. They need to make sure that bills accurately identify and compare all the costs, especially for the “gen-tailers” who combine generation and grid costs. It is too easy for the latter to hide how much they are spending on improving the grid.

    Big industry super funds have some big stakes in companies like Origin, so Labor should have some leverage here.

  32. AUKUS just keeps motoring along, moving forward at the rate of knots and gathering momentum 🙂

    The federal government is confident the United States Congress will agree to authorise the sale of nuclear-powered submarines to Australia in a breakthrough deal that overrides doubts the AUKUS pact would weaken the US Navy.

    US legislators have been negotiating to include the AUKUS submarine transfer in the annual National Defence Authorisation Act, which also includes funding for military aid to Israel and Ukraine.

    The final negotiated bill is expected to be made public as early as Friday and could pass within weeks.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/full-speed-ahead-for-nuclear-subs-with-us-breakthrough-in-sight-20231207-p5epvy.html

  33. the ombudsman debra glas 10 year term ends next year no dought her and redlick will run for the liberals may bi glas could have reviewed the morrison secrit ministries and his politicizing the publick service but aparently glas is unhappy that labor gives contracts to the unions not just pwc

  34. Lil’ ‘michael’ from Menzies house haplessly conflating feel pinions expressed to a pollster with ‘facts’:

    “ There is a national poll which says 62% of people say the transition to renewables is making their power bills more expensive. Only 12% say renewables are making their power bills cheaper. Only have to checkout what happened when Hazelwood shut down to confirm this fact.”

    _______

    Fact: my household is now drawing less than half the energy we were before 2015 from the grid, even though we put in an in ground pool at the end of that year simply because we also put on 21 solar panels – installed for $3,700 including inverter and made the effort to run as much of our power hungry appliances during the middle of the day. I still have all the power bills that prove this point.

    Thanks to ‘renewables’ (and some commonsense usage of electricity) we have not only saved that $3,700 in under 3 years, but saved at least another $6,000 since then.

    I think this is worth repeating, just to illustrate that my story is not just anecdotal:

    “ AEMO said the National Electricity Market set a record low demand of 11,393MW at 12:30pm on 17 September, a 4.2% decrease from the previous record set in November 2022. Rooftop solar and grid-scale solar accounted for 57% of the total electricity supply in the National Electricity Market on that day.”

    How can you live with yourself ‘michael’? Dos telling lies for ‘the team’ just come natural to you, or do they actually torture your conscience? If you have one (which I actually doubt. One can’t be as cynical as you without having some sort of personality disorder).

  35. A short play, Whybrow cross examines the subconscious:

    “I’m not accusing you, I’m putting to you that maybe there are subconscious additions to your evidence,” Mr Whybrow responded.

    Dr Morbius: You couldn’t handle my subconscious.

    Mr Whybrow : Even so, what is it telling you.

    Dr Morbius: It was monsters from the id that did it.

  36. “Labour hire workers will be paid more and intentional wage theft will be criminalised after Employment Minister Tony Burke secured a surprise deal with Senate crossbenchers to pass his same job, same pay laws.

    Unions hailed the changes while peak business groups and the Coalition labelled it a sneaky deal that would increase business costs and hinder the economy.”

    From the Age Independent as long as it supports Costello’s Party…

    Think about that.

    The alternative government thinks wage theft is a good thing!

    Fuck me!

  37. Only 12 more years before local jobs start from AUKUS sub construction. Yay!

    The US Congress action is a placeholder for AUKUS, not the actual agreement. It signifies an intention. Until the US passes the ITAR approvals the AUKUS deal does not legally exist for Australia or UK.

    Most of the AUKUS actions happening are promoted to retain public interest and confidence. They represent little change in Australia’s military capability.

    Most are also small – spending in the tens of millions, not billions. Labor does not want to spend much money now anyway for political and economic reasons. So the fact that most local AUKUS actions can’t start for years is financially convenient.

    I’m not saying the AUKUS team is not trying. I’m sure they are trying their best. But unless a miracle happens in UK sub design and US congress approvals, there is no way to deliver SSNs under AUKUS in the required timeframe.

  38. David Wallace-Wells of The New York Times citing a rather obvious underlying reason for continuing American economic pessimism: the COVID-19 pandemic.

    “But in fishing for causes, an obvious contributor is often overlooked: the pandemic itself. It not only killed more than a million Americans but also threw much of daily life and economic activity and public confidence into profound disarray for several years, scarring a lot of people and their perceptions of the country, its capacities and its future.

    When Americans are asked whether the country is on the right track, or whether they themselves are optimistic or pessimistic, they don’t treat the query like a trivia quiz about the last quarter’s G.D.P. growth or the Black unemployment rate or even the size of their own paychecks or stock portfolios. They are effectively responding to the therapist’s query: How are things? They answered that question according to one set of patterns, stretching back decades. And the pattern did not begin to shift only when inflation peaked in late spring 2022, or when pandemic relief was relaxed in fall 2021, or when supply-chain issues first arose earlier that year. They began answering differently in 2020, as the scale and duration of the pandemic came into view.

    For decades, surveys about the economy were an accurate gauge of economic fundamentals that, practically speaking, there was little need to distinguish between the two.

    That all changed in early 2020, when a significant gap opened between economic conditions and public perception…”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/06/opinion/bad-economy-vibes.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EE0.ZzmC.nM9uua0vxzgG&hpgrp=ar-abar&smid=url-share

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