Starting off with news relevant to the Indigenous Voice referendum, which according to recent reportage in the Age/Herald could be upon us on October 14:
• The latest monthly SEC Newgate Mood of the Nation survey finds support for the Indigenous Voice* at 52%, down a point from February, with opposition up four to 26%. There has also been a three point drop in strong support to 30% and a four point increase in strong opposition to 17%. Support was over 50% in New South Wales, Victoria and Queensland, and solidly ahead of opposition in Western Australia and Queensland. The poll was conducted April 13 to 18 from a sample of 1200.
• Social researcher Rebecca Huntley writes in The Guardian that recent YouGov research has found only 40% of non-Indigenous respondents believed the Indigenous Voice had majority support among Indigenous people, whereas their polling of 738 Indigenous respondents had support at 83%.
Other news:
• The aforementioned SEC Newgate survey finds the most highly regarded mainland state governments are those of Western Australia and South Australia, followed by the Victorian and newly elected New South Wales governments, with only the Queensland government below water. The federal government has been doing unspectacularly on this measure, which asks respondents to rate them on a six-point scale, but it has steady since the February result while each of the state governments has lost ground.
• Katherine Deves has withdrawn from contention to fill Jim Molan’s New South Wales Liberal Senate vacancy, without Warren Mundine having entered the race, for whom she had previously said she would step aside. In Mundine’s absence, the favoured conservative candidate to fill a conservative vacancy would appear to be Jess Collins, who is variously said to be backed by the centre right and conservative state MP Anthony Roberts. Moderates are likely to back state party president Maria Kovacic, but hostility to her among conservatives raises the possibility that another moderate, former state Bega MP and Transport Minister Andrew Constance, will emerge as a compromise candidate.
• Warren Entsch, who has held Leichhardt in Far North Queensland as a Liberal for all but one term since 1996, has confirmed he will retire at the next election. He earlier retired at the 2007 election, at which the seat was won by Labor, but returned in 2010, and did not follow through on his announcement on the night of the 2019 election that the following term would be his last. James Massola of the Age/Herald reports that Pharmacy Guild president Trent Twomey has “long been discussed as a possible successor”, but that he denies any such plans. Entsch says Twomey would be “great in politics, but he would be better in the Senate”, preselection for the Liberal National Party Senate ticket being set for finalisation at the end of June.
• Anthony Galloway of the Age/Herald reports the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters’ inquiry into the 2022 federal election is looking at recommending increasing to the size of federal parliament as part of its brief to consider the “one-vote one-value” principle, which is presently strained by the Constitution’s guarantee of five seats to Tasmania. Enrolments in these seats would be brought broadly into line with the rest of the country if two further seats were added for each state in the Senate and twice as many seats again added to the House of Representatives, which represents the only permissible increase to the size of parliament given the Constitution’s “nexus” provision, whereby the House must not be more than twice the size of the Senate.
• Broede Carmody of the Age/Herald reports division within the party formerly known as the Liberal Democrats, which can no longer use that name owing to legislation passed before last year’s election, as to whether its new name should be the Libertarians Party, as favoured by New South Wales and Victorian state upper house members John Ruddick and David Limbrick, and the Liberty and Democracy Party, which the party used at the 2007 federal election and which is favoured by former Senator David Leyonhjelm.
* The wording of the question: “The federal government is planning to hold a referendum to update the Australian Constitution and create an Indigenous Voice representing the views of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander People. This would be a permanent advisory body to the Federal Parliament on issues relevant to Indigenous people but would not have the power to create or approve laws. To what extent do you support or oppose the creation of an Indigenous Voice to Parliament?
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Rex Douglassays:
Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:09 am
There is absolutely NO electoral danger in Albanese addressing S3 in this years budget forward estimates. Dutton has less than zero chance of election success. This economic agenda from Albanese is a deliberate strategy to appeal to right wing voters, at the expense of those living in poverty
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Albanese government got majority in May election due to its victory in 2 Liberal seats (aka Higgins and Bennelong). Also, all the 10 Teals won blue ribbon Liberal seats and they are fairly conservative when it comes to economic matters i.e. tax cuts for rich. Another Liberal won a safe Labor seat calling herself independent.
So Rex give it a rest with your Skunk farts.
*” The wording of the question: “The federal government is planning to hold a referendum to update the Australian Constitution and create an Indigenous Voice representing the views of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander People. This would be a permanent advisory body to the Federal Parliament on issues relevant to Indigenous people but would not have the power to create or approve laws. To what extent do you support or oppose the creation of an Indigenous Voice to Parliament?”
If you ask a dodgy question you’ll get dodgy answers. Why do indigenous people need another guaranteed constitutional ‘voice’ in our parliament when they already have one? The No campaign should commission their own poll asking, ‘Do you support a race based constitution and the creation of a second indigenous voice in our parliament? Do you support the end of one vote, one value in our democratic system and some Australians having more rights than others? Do you believe that racism is good for indigenous people?’
Note that the asked question strongly implies that up until now indigenous Australians had no democratic rights.
JCB: “indigenous people ”
We broke our constitution by stealing the land we live on. By our laws. The indigenous people, through the Uluru Statement, have given us a path in the Voice how to fix it.
Dummies don’t get it. Thankfully most Australians do.
JCB: “dodgy question”
Hypocrite know thy name.
It seems only the 3-4 usual outlier posters don’t recognise and understand that Labor is governing for the majority in the centre.
Polls and seat gains and losses since the election only reinforce this fact. Australians seem very happy with their government judging by all the metrics. It’s just good government after all.
Ugh. 🙄
Fyi, Jeremy C. Browne (and isn’t that a Hooray Henry name for the ages?), all Indigenous Australians want is recognition of their existence on this continent before the Whitefellas arrived, and the right to advise the government of the day about issues which affect them and them alone. It’s really as simple as that. Attempting a misdirection as you have, about what the referendum is about, lays out your bigotry credentials for all to see. Simple. As. That.
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C@tmommasays:
Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:32 am
Rossmore @ #24 Saturday, April 29th, 2023 – 8:54 am
Trouble in t’Victorian Greens.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/a-line-in-the-sand-inside-the-greens-war-on-transphobia-20230427-p5d3sm.html
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/greens-free-speech-panic-alienating-members-20230427-p5d3mt.html
I found this comment ‘interesting’:
The party figure agrees that the new provision further restricts free speech within the Greens but points out that freedom of speech has never been a core value of the party. “We are not a libertarian party,” they said. A survey conducted as part of the ABC’s “Australia Talks” series suggests that most Greens voters would agree.
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Nearly all Greens voters surveyed – 97 per cent – agreed that freedom of speech was often used to justify discrimination against minority groups.
Yes, but freedom of speech isn’t ONLY a justification used by Libertarians to enable bigotry. It’s actually a core pillar of a free society. The right to speak your mind freely. The sort of things that can be said can be codified but not the right to free speech itself.
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C@tmomma
No wonder all their internal party meetings are top secret. They want to restrict ‘Freedom of soeech’ in their party but want transparency (which comes from Free speech) from others.
It is no surprise that The Greens are supported by Bourgeois middle class (BTW IMO in Australia there mortgage middle class and Bourgeois middle class, what some call Nimbies).
The dilemma facing the Greens is delicious. Hats off to these brave dissidents. Under the new rules, no one is even allowed to discuss biology in regards to sex, with the threat of expulsion. All three main parties have sidelined women and are in the thrall of the trans activists. It’s all about identity and throwing away well founded science. What happened to the Greens call to ‘support the science’? Name one scientist who believes it’s possible to change your sex. Just one.
There’s clearly concern amongst gender critical Greens supporters that under their policies, women have effectively been eradicated. Don’t think men should be put in women’s prisons? Tough. Don’t like men using women’s toilets? Tough. Why do the Greens even have policies for women when their definition of women is so meaningless? These brave souls will no doubt be branded fascists, nazis and transphobic for their heresy. Hopefully these dissidents will reach out to MP Moira Deeming and form some kind of alliance.
Boerwar says:
Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:23 am
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I have no problem at all with China trying this on. Caveat emptor!
This is a most inapt example. China is attempting to force small economies into financial servitude. This is repression, pure and simple. The subject economies will be forced buyers of a currency – a currency is a promise by a State – for which there is no free market.
The Chinese monetary gambit relies on repression and on gold. This is mercantilist. It is neo-Imperialist. It is State-aggrandisement.
Cronus: ” seems only the 3-4 usual outlier posters don’t recognise and understand that Labor is governing for the majority in the centre.”
They’re a mix of greens extremists and LNP quislings. A combination of greens that think their way is the only way, mixed in with LNP supporters whose only desire is to talk down an ALP government in a deluded belief that what is bad for the ALP is good for the LNP.
JCB: “no one is even allowed ”
Looking into people’s pants without their permission is frowned upon by the normal folk, yes. Religious nutters have a problem with this, clearly. They simply can’t grasp the fact that most normal people don’t have a burning desire to confirm what is in everyone else’s pants.
Lol
Rex Douglas @ #53 Saturday, April 29th, 2023 – 10:35 am
Another one comes to their senses. Australia is heading down the wrong path on so many issues 🙁
”Do you support a race based constitution and the creation of a second indigenous voice in our parliament? …”
Now that question is dodgier than a con artist who’s just been appointed Professor of Dodginess at Oxford University…
Agree, Ven @ 10.45am.
Australia’s been on the wrong path for a decade. The ship can’t be turned around in a day or a single term. With most of the media and most of the money against it, the Government needs to choose its battles carefully. Or it could try to fight on 26 different fronts at once, like Gough tried and like Julia was more or less forced to. That didn’t work out so well.
As far as Stage 3 goes, the cuts have no merit beyond possibly compensation for bracket creep. We’ll see what’s in the Budget, but I’d limit tax reform to fixing a few loopholes and tidying up at this stage. The cuts take effect after next year’s budget and before the next election. That will provide a good opportunity to revisit.
C@tmomma and MaccaRB, thanks for your words of encouragement. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked there is a proportion of people posting here who oppose a strong light being shed upon Russia’s heinous assaults upon the people of Ukraine, but I still am, obviously.
Don’t worry, though – I know those who want to run interference for the genocidal warmongers in the Kremlin and elsewhere across Russian society are in a minority here. It’s just that their voices can seem to be the ones I hear most loudly when they all flock together as a pack, like they did yesterday.
Steve777 @ #65 Saturday, April 29th, 2023 – 11:16 am
The problem is that we simply can’t wait for another term on some of these issues. It’s not really a matter of can or can’t – in some cases these things will happen whether we manage it ourselves using a reasonably calm, measured and rational approach, or whether we just sit around and let reality take over and do it for us – in which case we probably won’t like either the process or the outcome much.
Rex wrote, “as Labor transitions into a right wing Govt, so it seems the majority of commenters here become right wing economic supporters. A fascinating study of human behaviour.”
They remind me of the Australian Communist’s transition. Prior to June 22nd 1941, the Second World War was a fight for social fascists and not one for Australian workers to become involved with. Afterwards, it was vital for Australian workers to do everything in their power to defeat the evils of Nazi Germany. This was literally an overnight switch.
‘The Apostate Stooge says:
Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:47 am
Boerwar says:
Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:23 am
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I have no problem at all with China trying this on. Caveat emptor!
This is a most inapt example. China is attempting to force small economies into financial servitude. This is repression, pure and simple. The subject economies will be forced buyers of a currency – a currency is a promise by a State – for which there is no free market.
The Chinese monetary gambit relies on repression and on gold. This is mercantilist. It is neo-Imperialist. It is State-aggrandisement.’
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Oh, morality. Yes, it is obviously evil international bastardy. That said, caveat emptor.
Only one man can stop Fortress Poll Bludger from falling into the hands of Putin, his Kremlin warmongers and their many Australian minions. That man is Enough Already, and his scrappy offsider C@t. Watch the next episode where our dynamic duo are captured by Putin forces! Is this the end for our Ukrainian Heroes?
It is good to see the JCB is opposed to bad faith behaviour in relation to the Voice referendum. He can gorge himself on the following:
Dutton’s big bad faith lies:
1. The Voice comes out of the Canberra Bubble and not from Indigenous people around Australia.
2. Indigenous people do not support the Voice.
3. The Voice will require thousands of public servants.
4. The Voice will cost billions.
5. The Voice is a threat to Australian democracy.
6. The Voice is an Albanese Vanity Project.
7. The Commonwealth Solicitor General advised against the wording.
8. The Voice will be a ‘new arm of the government’.
9. The Liberal Alternative Legislated Voice will be (local and regional). Not ‘national’ as he informed his Party Room .
10. Albanese wants to silence people and depict them as ‘racist’.
11. Dutton is going out to the regions to talk with Indigenous elders.
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Contested lies. That is, where others who were present said different things from what Dutton has said.
1. The Party Room Lie about whether national or local and regional
2. The Elder lie where he advised her to vote ‘yes’!
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Lies by people other than Dutton about the Voice:
1. It won’t make a practical difference.
2. It will clog the budget, slowing it down.
3. The Constitution requires fine levels of detail;
4. Ley, the Voice can veto Australia Day and ANZAC Day.
5. Fegan, that members of the Voice will sit in Parliament.
6. Wild, of the IPA, claimed that the Waitangi Tribunal has a veto over New Zealand Parliament. We are supposed to infer that regardless of the referendum text the Voice would do the same.
7. Joyce, the Government is being ‘sneaky’ and ‘involved in a cover up’ on the Voice.
8. Mundine, the Voice will leave us with a bureaucratic nightmare.
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Dutton’s approach to the Voice goes to the heart of the Coalition’s corruption: bad faith lying. There can be no trust. There is no integrity. Anyone can be sacrificed. Politics is a form of anti-social Darwinism with the Coalition’s inner scum rising to the surface and the nastiest, most conniving and most vicious rising to the top. ﹰPrograms are corrupted. ﹰManagement is corrupted. ﹰPolicy is corrupted. National security is compromised. The environment is trashed. Time itself is trashed. The past is put away. The future is eaten. There is only a savage ever-rolling present of dog eat dog and the devil take the hindmost. Envy, cynicism, fear and loathing debase the social coinage.
JeremyLand.
Crankmomma must have very intense interactions on here, with the six or so members that she hasn’t yet blocked. What a twerp.
clem attlee, you sound very much like the thing you’re supposedly critical of. I would suggest a hotel, but I don’t think you’re her type. Unrequited love is a bugger innit? But its really fatal characteristic is that it’s booooorrrring.
My guess about the budget – there will be some welfare measures, probably not what the majority here and on Twitter and the ABC want in relation to Jobseeker. As for Stage 3 tax cuts, they are legislated and banked in, the government can’t reverse them without being open to the ferocity of the Murdoch media especially, why give a struggling Liberal Opposition and their leader any sort of opening?
Rex in particular is very strong on the moral outrage and Albo being such a supposed disappointment, but the Rexs of this world live in some utopian left wing fantasy world devoid of political reality.
The latest polling suggest to me the majority are happy with their government, the twitter mob as always are not reflective of the voting population in general.
It’s important to remember this when we discuss the Voice and hear from opponents:
(Noel) Pearson argued the backlash against the Voice’s ability to advise the executive branch of government, which has become one of the No campaign’s chief critiques, was fuelled largely by an opinion piece by former High Court justice Ian Callinan.
“This was entirely concocted by Callinan himself and those who ran with the argument,” Pearson said.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/pearson-slams-weak-dutton-former-liberal-pms-on-indigenous-recognition-20230428-p5d3yp.html
Not sure what’s weirder, that this dreck humanizing a coal generator exists in the first place, or that it was published on a renewable energy website.
Can I get them to eulogize my rooftop solar when it gets decommissioned? Ender Wiggin style, preferably.
Boerwar: I apologise for my comment to you last night. I was upset about something personal and had probably had too much to drink. If people are setting limits on posts, I’ll set mine at zero. I will continue to lurk.
Evan : “Rexs of this world live in some utopian left wing fantasy world”
The Rex’s live in the anti-ALP to the benefit of LNP world. They have no interest in implementing Greens policy, and are patently aware of the reality of its unicorn fart nature, only white-anting the ALP. You know when Rex started talking about the S3 cuts that were legislated under the Morrison government? When the ALP got into power. Not a peep when they were legislated.
ar: “humanizing a coal generator ”
They’re humanizing the people who have been doing the job for generations. Amazing as it may seem, it used to be a position of pride. Same thing will happen with petrol stations eventually I expect.
We shall see in the budget whether Labor will do much now on cost of living and housing, but the signs haven’t looked good so far. Maybe this is deliberate – look like you’re going to offer nothing and then whatever you do offer well exceeds expectations and you get a broader range of people from outside weighing in to the debate making the case for change for you – or the govt may just ignore it and see more indies/greens elected to parliament. I guess there is some hope with the backbench being a lot more outspoken on this than you usually see from Labor. The LNP unsurprisingly is not offering any accountability because they 100% don’t care – it’s only coming from the crossbench and within Labor. If the govt can’t provide meaningful help for those in need then it might put the thought in people’s minds whether the Voice is anything more than a feel-good exercise, that won’t actually do much to close the gap. Recognition and empathy aren’t good enough, you also need to take concrete action.
Nope, those remarks are specifically in reference to the generator. The bit at the end about there not being a dry eye on the room humanizes the workers.
Only one man can stop Fortress Poll Bludger from falling into the hands of Shorten, his SDA hatemongers and their many Australian minions. That man is nath, and his scrappy offsider Taylormade. Watch the next episode where our dynamic duo are captured by Shorten’s forces! Is this the end for our Victorian Heroes?
Yeah nah ar. You don’t get to strip the context out of something and then say it’s out of context. It’s a refection on the very human effect of an industry dying. And dying it is.
On balance I think Vladimir Putin is a more terrible person that Bill Shorten. But being a Shogun with an open mind, I am receptive to nath convincing me of otherwise.
The PM’s press conference announcing the new stadium, the new terminal for the Antarctic fleet and the new Social and Affordable Housing project today:
https://www.youtube.com/live/TFR8tvgr48k?feature=share
I hope south listens to it.
‘mj says:
Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 12:25 pm
We shall see in the budget whether Labor will do much now on cost of living and housing, but the signs haven’t looked good so far. Maybe this is deliberate – look like you’re going to offer nothing and then whatever you do offer well exceeds expectations and you get a broader range of people from outside weighing in to the debate making the case for change for you – or the govt may just ignore it and see more indies/greens elected to parliament. I guess there is some hope with the backbench being a lot more outspoken on this than you usually see from Labor. The LNP unsurprisingly is not offering any accountability because they 100% don’t care – it’s only coming from the crossbench and within Labor. If the govt can’t provide meaningful help for those in need then it might put the thought in people’s minds whether the Voice is anything more than a feel-good exercise, that won’t actually do much to close the gap. Recognition and empathy aren’t good enough, you also need to take concrete action.’
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So you want the Voice to get up. Tick.
You recognize that the Albanese Government is streets ahead of the Abbott, Turnbull, Morrison governments. Tick.
You recognize what the large majority of Indigenous Australians recognize: that the Voice will make a practical difference. Tick.
You are opposed to Dutton’s systemic feel bad exercize. Tick.
You are opposed to Bandt’s blocking of affordable housing for 60,000 people. Tick.
You are opposed to Blocker Bandt clamping down on free speech inside the Greens. Tick.
You applaud the hundreds of government interventions by the Albanese Government on everything from substantive improvements in health, to massive changes towards renewable energy, to bolstering the wages of the lowest paid workers to a systematic approach to smashing the glass ceiling by appointing women to senior positions.
It is all good. I admire your concerns.
Petrol Stations will eventually go the way of the picture theatres they replaced…
Labor offered a full suite of changes to property at 2019 election … and were rejected by the Australian people.
You cant blame Labor for going slowly now. The Australian people were given a chance to change property rorts, and reject it.
Torchbearer.
Absolutely. Some have short memories.
Hello AR. How about a bit of empathy for the workers of the Hunter whose lives are being impacted by the transition away from fossil fuels? Liddell was a workplace, people built their families and lives from the income they earned there, like any workplace it was a place where people shared the ups and downs of their lives alongside their workmates. Now it’s closed, and its workforce is moving to retirement or Bayswater or whatever comes next, of course there is going to be nostalgia about their former workplace. Everyone knows the end of coal is coming, and that it is absolutely essential that we move to renewables. But let’s have a bit of respect for the workers who mined the coal and generated the electricity that we all needed for so long. If they want to humanise the Liddell plant, then good on them.
Labor went with a less ambitious agenda last election against a damaged Morrison and their first preference vote went backwards. You can understand why they did, but it’s not lead to any better results.
Just a small amount of information about community sentiment in Rosebery (Seat of Sydney). My daughter was on a stall hosted by out local member, Tanya Plibersek, mostly to promote a yes vote for the voice, outside the local Woolworths.
A few people stopped by. One to give some feedback: She said she was now a firmly ex-Liberal voter. She has liked Malcolm Turnbull, but felt she no longer hd anything in common with the Liberal Partly, and would be now a permanent Labor voter. She was very happy with what Albanese and Labor are doing. She also said she would be voting “Yes” to the voice.
Then a couple who were both scientists stopped and thanked Tanya Plibersek profusely for what she was doing for the environment. The woman said she was not able to vote in Australia, but she would could persuade other people.
Anther person stopped and asked for stickers and pamphlets about the voice, hoping to persuade his father to vote “Yes”.
There was no negative feedback, despite it being a pretty well-heeled high density area of Sydney, with more than the usual number of people with PhDs, and also a good sprinkling of those working in finance.
Pi @ #77 Saturday, April 29th, 2023 – 12:24 pm
It is certainly true that Labor should have opposed them at the time. But they didn’t. And therefore their true impact went somewhat unnoticed. Ok, it’s fair to say we should all have paid more attention, but it is also fair to say that alerting the electorate to such appallingly bad policy is one of the things we expect the opposition to do for us. But in this, Labor failed.
Also, to be fair, it is possible that at the time that it looked like the tax cuts might be affordable (although now that we better understand the sheer scale of them, this is hard to believe). But the global financial situation and other budget decisions since then mean that even if we may once have been able to afford them, we now know we simply cannot.
But neither of those are the real issue. The real issue is – and should always have been – how brutally regressive these tax cuts are. They do permanent damage (at least until repaired by further legislation) to our supposedly “progressive” taxation system. In this respect, Labor have failed what would once have been their core constituency.
It’s time Labor acknowledged these things and – finally – did the right thing by all Australians, and not just the wealthy.
At least three associate justices of the SCOTUS are under a cloud for various indiscretions: an allegation of indecent exposure (Kavanaugh); selling a jointly owned propterty to a law firm that regularly appears before the Supreme Court, but failing to disclose it (Gorsuch); and, the unethical conduct of accepting valuable gifts from a GOP donor (Thomas). The problem is though, there’s no authority that can have them brought to book
except impeachment, which won’t happen for obvious reasons.
It should therefore come no suprise to find public confidence in the SCOTUS has sunk to an historic low. Earl Warren, aruably the most respected former chief justice, would be pulling his hair out if hadn’t died.*
https://news.gallup.com/poll/394103/confidence-supreme-court-sinks-historic-low.aspx
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Warren#:~:text=He%20also%20served%20as%20Governor,history%20of%20the%20United%20States.
Player One @ #91 Saturday, April 29th, 2023 – 1:00 pm
Oh, including themselves, of course. A pay rise of almost $10,000 per annum? What’s not to like about that when you are already amongst the highest paid politicians in the world?
To get the multiple terms that Labor needs to transform the country and undo much of the damage done by the reactionary populists during the last quarter century, Labor needs people who have recently voted for or preferenced the Coalition to vote for or preference Labor. That’s people who thought Abbott was acceptable in 2013, who thought last year that Morrison was acceptable. Labor is not going to going to do it by preaching to the choir. It needs to bring people along.
Shogun @ #NaN Saturday, April 29th, 2023 – 12:32 pm
I’m not a greens voter Boerwar, but I don’t think the general thrust of what Rex is saying can be just dismissed as ‘Klutz trolling’. I’m sure there are plenty of Labor supporters from the left who would agree with him that handing 240 billion dollars worth of cuts to the wealthy while so many people are struggling just to survive is hardly what you would expect from a Labor government.
torchbearer says:
Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 12:44 pm
Labor offered a full suite of changes to property at 2019 election … and were rejected by the Australian people.
You cant blame Labor for going slowly now. The Australian people were given a chance to change property rorts, and reject it.
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+1, it’s disingenuous or politically ignorant of some to suggest Labor should initiate radical change when the majority have long signalled they do not support such action. Steady as she goes it what Australians want and voted for. The majority are centrists, not activists.
Bystander: “I’m sure there are plenty of Labor supporters from the left.”
If the ALP election promises are broken, they will be turfed out at the next election, and the LNP will simply re-enact the legislation that has already passed. Just like they did with climate change legislation. The LNP supporters know this, which is why they want the ALP to cut them. The greens and LNP are in lock/goose-step on this.
If you want the ALP to break election promises, you’re supporting the LNP. It’s that simple.
‘Bystander says:
Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 1:23 pm
Boerwarsays:
Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:27 am
‘Rex Douglas says:
Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:09 am
There is absolutely NO electoral danger in Albanese addressing S3 in this years budget forward estimates. Dutton has less than zero chance of election success. This economic agenda from Albanese is a deliberate strategy to appeal to right wing voters, at the expense of those living in poverty’
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Klutz trolling.
I’m not a greens voter Boerwar, but I don’t think the general thrust of what Rex is saying can be just dismissed as ‘Klutz trolling’. I’m sure there are plenty of Labor supporters from the left who would agree with him that handing 240 billion dollars worth of cuts to the wealthy while so many people are struggling just to survive is hardly what you would expect from a Labor government.’
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Uh huh. Imagine what Dutton would do if Labor reneged on the S3 tax cuts. It is possibly the only thing that might save Dutton’s leadership, BTW.
Labor is a majority government by a couple of thousand votes. Rex is klutz trolling. Why ‘klutz’? Because it is based on a bad faith proposition.