Indigenous Voice polling and other matters (open thread)

More signs of a narrowing on the Indigenous Voice, but in this case with yes still streets ahead.

Starting off with news relevant to the Indigenous Voice referendum, which according to recent reportage in the Age/Herald could be upon us on October 14:

• The latest monthly SEC Newgate Mood of the Nation survey finds support for the Indigenous Voice* at 52%, down a point from February, with opposition up four to 26%. There has also been a three point drop in strong support to 30% and a four point increase in strong opposition to 17%. Support was over 50% in New South Wales, Victoria and Queensland, and solidly ahead of opposition in Western Australia and Queensland. The poll was conducted April 13 to 18 from a sample of 1200.

• Social researcher Rebecca Huntley writes in The Guardian that recent YouGov research has found only 40% of non-Indigenous respondents believed the Indigenous Voice had majority support among Indigenous people, whereas their polling of 738 Indigenous respondents had support at 83%.

Other news:

• The aforementioned SEC Newgate survey finds the most highly regarded mainland state governments are those of Western Australia and South Australia, followed by the Victorian and newly elected New South Wales governments, with only the Queensland government below water. The federal government has been doing unspectacularly on this measure, which asks respondents to rate them on a six-point scale, but it has steady since the February result while each of the state governments has lost ground.

• Katherine Deves has withdrawn from contention to fill Jim Molan’s New South Wales Liberal Senate vacancy, without Warren Mundine having entered the race, for whom she had previously said she would step aside. In Mundine’s absence, the favoured conservative candidate to fill a conservative vacancy would appear to be Jess Collins, who is variously said to be backed by the centre right and conservative state MP Anthony Roberts. Moderates are likely to back state party president Maria Kovacic, but hostility to her among conservatives raises the possibility that another moderate, former state Bega MP and Transport Minister Andrew Constance, will emerge as a compromise candidate.

• Warren Entsch, who has held Leichhardt in Far North Queensland as a Liberal for all but one term since 1996, has confirmed he will retire at the next election. He earlier retired at the 2007 election, at which the seat was won by Labor, but returned in 2010, and did not follow through on his announcement on the night of the 2019 election that the following term would be his last. James Massola of the Age/Herald reports that Pharmacy Guild president Trent Twomey has “long been discussed as a possible successor”, but that he denies any such plans. Entsch says Twomey would be “great in politics, but he would be better in the Senate”, preselection for the Liberal National Party Senate ticket being set for finalisation at the end of June.

Anthony Galloway of the Age/Herald reports the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters’ inquiry into the 2022 federal election is looking at recommending increasing to the size of federal parliament as part of its brief to consider the “one-vote one-value” principle, which is presently strained by the Constitution’s guarantee of five seats to Tasmania. Enrolments in these seats would be brought broadly into line with the rest of the country if two further seats were added for each state in the Senate and twice as many seats again added to the House of Representatives, which represents the only permissible increase to the size of parliament given the Constitution’s “nexus” provision, whereby the House must not be more than twice the size of the Senate.

Broede Carmody of the Age/Herald reports division within the party formerly known as the Liberal Democrats, which can no longer use that name owing to legislation passed before last year’s election, as to whether its new name should be the Libertarians Party, as favoured by New South Wales and Victorian state upper house members John Ruddick and David Limbrick, and the Liberty and Democracy Party, which the party used at the 2007 federal election and which is favoured by former Senator David Leyonhjelm.

* The wording of the question: “The federal government is planning to hold a referendum to update the Australian Constitution and create an Indigenous Voice representing the views of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander People. This would be a permanent advisory body to the Federal Parliament on issues relevant to Indigenous people but would not have the power to create or approve laws. To what extent do you support or oppose the creation of an Indigenous Voice to Parliament?

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

1,638 comments on “Indigenous Voice polling and other matters (open thread)”

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  1. 98.6 says:
    Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:07 pm

    My opinion on the increased cash rate by the RBA is that I was 99% sure that they would do just that.
    It worries me not one iota whether it did or didn’t as i don’t have a mortgage nor any money in the bank.
    Why anyone could not see it coming, including several banks and economists, is beyond me.
    In fact, I worry that this country has so many wankers who think they know ‘economics’.
    I won’t go into the details of the whys and wherefores except to say that inflation is still at 7%, where as the RBA want it to be at 3%.
    Its not rocket science.
    HELLO !
    ____________

    Speaking of Wankers and Economics, The Shovel and The Chaser have combined to produce a show just for you – actually, all of us: Wankernomics…

    https://theshovel.com.au/live-shows/

    …although it appears to be sold out in several places.

  2. Historyintime says:
    Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:25 pm
    So far this is the worse Labor Government I have ever seen apart from the obviously bent ones. It’s just so bone crushingly orthodox and timid on anything other than the Voice and some mild gender policies. Its migration policy is a disaster for poorer and working people. And it won’t do anything real for welfare recipients. But it keeps the tax cuts. What kind of Labor Government is this. As soon as Dutton. Is despatched these pills are going to change materially.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    98.6 asks :
    Where did you buy your crystal ball from, Historyintime ?
    Seems like you paid too much for it at a $2 shop.
    Why don’t you wait till next Tuesday to see if your voodoo shit is correct.
    Although I don’t care about the Stage 3 tax cuts either way, as a retiree, your crystal (or glass) ball may be wrong again.
    Could you tell me who is going to win the Melbourne Cup this year, I might put a dollar on it for a place.
    Well its one chance in 24 !
    I can spare a dollar, its only half the price of what you paid for your glass ball.
    Are you sure it wasn’t a marble that you bought ?

  3. The UK MoD gives a grim assessment of Russia’s ability to supply the front with ammunition:

    “… logistics problems remain at the heart of Russia’s struggling campaign in Ukraine. Russia does not have enough munitions to achieve success on the offensive. Paucity of ammunition drives internal divisions, most notably between Russia’s Ministry of Defence and Wagner Group.”

    https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1653273566681481218/photo/1

    Restricted to defensively clinging on to their current, largely devastated, conquest of 18% of Ukrainian territory … riven by internal strife on the front lines …

    Whoever said Russia was not the second strongest military in the world, but merely the second strongest military in Ukraine, was right …

  4. I’m hopeful that the perks and lurks associated with investment properties together the with bastardised superannuation dogs breakfast are addressed in the budget. Some well targeted changes will help take the “I’ve got to make a windfall killing” tomorrow catalyst from both sections of a multi-faceted sectors and help rein in the ‘drivers’ of the inflation buggy.
    The very well -off are quite happy for inflation to gallop along, many of the same well- off owe their good fortune to a marriage of property and superannuation perks.
    They will claim otherwise.

  5. gollsays:
    Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 6:07 pm
    Phillip Lowe will announce his decision to resign to pursue other opportunities at an appropriate time.
    This may not be far away.
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    98.6 says :
    Before September I believe.
    Speaking of September, friends I used to know had three daughters. The last girl born was called September.
    The other two girls were called April and May.
    Not sure if they had any more kids.

  6. Lars Von Trier says:
    Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:24 pm

    I think we could all use a visit about now from “here we go again” and a lecture on financial probity and how his kids were very prudent savers who paid off their mortgage early and those who get into trouble on mortgage debt deserve it for their loose personal financial habits.
    _________
    I for one would appreciate an update on the family fortune. The position of all cash, bonds, stocks, realestate and collectables. Specifically the 3.5 million in Super.

  7. goll says:
    Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 6:07 pm
    Phillip Lowe will announce his decision to resign to pursue other opportunities at an appropriate time.
    This may not be far away.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    98.6 says :
    Scott Morrison will announce his decision to resign to pursue other opportunities at an appropriate time
    This may not be far away.

  8. yabba says:
    Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:48 pm

    I found Dutton. He was hanging around with some grubby mates at Coles.
    ____________

    Our first “Where’s Dutto?” winner!

  9. Snappy Tomsays:
    Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:02 pm
    yabba says:
    Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:48 pm
    I found Dutton. He was hanging around with some grubby mates at Coles.
    ____________
    Our first “Where’s Dutto?” winner!
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    98.6 says :
    Soon to be mashed potato.

  10. Steve777 says:
    Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:28 am
    The population of the AFL States is about 12 million and they have 14 teams between them. That’s about 850,000 per team. Of these, Victoria has 10 teams and a population of 6.7 million. That’s 670,000 per team.
    Tasmania has about 570,000 people. Enough to support a team? No idea.
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    98.6 says :
    Why can’t the federal government send all the new immigrants that are expected in the next 2 years straight to Tasmania.
    Problem solved.
    They may have to change the name to New Australian Rules.

  11. I can’t read the whole article but is it implying that Lowe and the RBA board are taking revenge on the government?

    After today’s rate hike, I’m starting to wonder if Lowe and the board are embarking on a ‘scorched earth’ campaign.

    I say this being fully aware of the traditional rationale in using monetary policy to steady the economy.

    RBA’s Lowe isn’t going down without a fight
    It’s a case of careful what you wish for after a landmark RBA review pushed the central bank to go harder on attacking inflation. (Oz headline)

  12. citizen @ #1616 Tuesday, May 2nd, 2023 – 8:36 pm

    I can’t read the whole article but is it implying that Lowe and the RBA board are taking revenge on the government?

    Yes, I think so. Also, doing this right before the budget is very telling. Given how long the RBA waited to start raising interest rates because it would have made the previous government look bad, the RBA clearly could have waited a month to see the effects of the budget. But they chose not to do so. Perhaps they know what is coming in the budget and expect it to be inflationary – but if they do not then I can’t think of a more deliberate way of them saying Fuck You to both the government and the less well off portion of the electorate.

  13. well franklin nats mp is close friends with minns and south australian labor melanusgass not only gave a former liberal now independent sa speaker but also a liberal upper house president gregg donnelly will have to setle for deputy assume it would be to difficult donnelly to takethe role as concern he might use it to push his social conservative moral agender

  14. whhere is laz evidence that franklin is likely to be appointed upper house president cant find any infomrmation not that it matters how many upper house presidents other then the famous liberal max willis who wasterible but car kept him on until 1998 when he retiredafter he was drunk and could not manage the chamber or harwin who went on to be arts minister

  15. I help out at the kids’ school running their STEM club

    The kids are learning to program and control edison robots. The task today was to program them to be operated by a remote control, then to navigate a maze. Fun times.

    Of course, being a very low power device communicating on an infrared channel means there is a considerable lag between control action and response. It’s easy to drive to far, to turn to hard, and to run into a wall. Some kids could adjust for the lag with ease; others not so much, they and just kept holding down the buttons and running into walls.

  16. It’s easy to drive to far, to turn to hard, and to run into a wall. Some kids could adjust for the lag with ease; others not so much, they and just kept holding down the buttons and running into walls.

    Add some sort of decay to the input magnitude the longer any button is held continuously? Like apply max steering angle for the first 30 degrees of a turn, then 50% for the next, then 25%, and so on.

    Then the rate of travel relative to the duration of the lag is less, and you don’t need precise reaction time to come out of a turn at about the right angle. And the kids who aren’t bothered by the lag can still get max performance by pulsing the input at the right interval to preempt the decay.

  17. I see what you did there Dandy.

    Funnily, I just watched the Brooklyn99 ep where Gina used a cupcake left on a chair as a metaphor for car parked across a parking bay. Metaphors abound.

  18. Liberals accused of flirting with ‘far-right fringe’ after Sky News Australia show where Indigenous voice compared to apartheid

    Exclusive: Michaelia Cash, who was a guest on the show, says Cory Bernardi’s comparison of voice proposal to apartheid South Africa ‘in no way reflects my view’

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/may/02/liberals-accused-of-flirting-with-far-right-fringe-after-sky-news-show-where-indigenous-voice-compared-to-apartheid

  19. Trump’s lawyer Tacopina is obviously out of his depth at the Carroll rape & defamation trial, seeking a mistrial, and other motions that have been rejected by the trial judge, and lacking the requisite knowledge of practice & procedure in a Federal Court. Meanwhile, Trump’s in Scotland checking out his golf club interests. My tentative prediction is that Carroll will prevail.

  20. Trump’s lawyer Tacopina is obviously out of his depth at the Carroll rape & defamation trial, seeking a mistrial, and other motions that have been rejected by the trial judge, and lacking the requisite knowledge of practice & procedure in a Federal Court. Meanwhile, Trump’s in Scotland checking out his golf club interests. My tentative prediction is that Carroll will prevail.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx32b5igLwA

  21. There has been so much hubris from the nominal Labor faction of this board. Things can and do change quickly, something they have chosen to ignore for some reason. If interest rates continue to climb and we go into recession, just watch Labor’s polling numbers collapse. There was no great love for Albanese out there in the last election, just an abiding hatred for Morrison. People would do well to remember that.

  22. Carroll wrapped up three days on the witness stand on Monday as the judge in the civil case, Lewis Kaplan, denied a defense motion for a mistrial on the grounds that he had made “pervasive unfair and prejudicial rulings” against Trump’s team during its cross-examination of the former president’s accuser.

    The …. “pervasive unfair and prejudicial rulings….. we’re probably a result of deliberate actions by Trumps attorney, their game plan to just have grounds to appeal so Trump can say it’s being “appealed “.

    Same as his I can’t release my tax because it’s under review bullshit, while on that subject I never understood why someone didn’t look at the pile of “ tax records “ Trump had his pre election press conference… I bet they were just blank sheets of paper.

    Trump barred reporters from examining stacks of folders at press conference
    BY BROOKE SEIPEL – 01/11/17 8:20 PM ET

    One of them should have just walked up & nocked them to the floor…
    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/313907-trump-didnt-allow-reporters-to-see-documents-detailing-split/

  23. Albo’s gone to London and started taking selfies with Peirs Morgan. Well that says about everything really.

    No doubt the lefty-luvvies rather Albo do a selfie with that anti-Semitic prick corbyn 😡

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