The Australian reports the second Newspoll since the election has produced an even weaker result for the Coalition than the first four weeks ago, with Labor’s two-party lead out from 56-44 to 57-43. Labor’s primary vote is steady at 37%, with the Coalition down two to 31% – their equal worst result in Newspoll history, matching the third poll under the Rudd government in February-March 2008 – with the Greens up one to 13%, One Nation up one to 7% (their strongest result in three years) and the United Australia Party steady on 2%.
Anthony Albanese is steady on 61% approval and up three on disapproval to 29%, while Peter Dutton is down two on approval to 35% and up two on disapproval to 43%. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister has widened from 59-25 to 61-22. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1505.
mj at 5.59 am
Next UK election due by late Jan 2025. Won’t be held later than mid December 2024 (5 years after previous one, which the idiotic Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson helped to occur early). Polling shows the Tories consistently behind since late 2021, especially since the Lib Dems will certainly not repeat their 2010 stupidity and support the Tories. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
Labor is getting on with governing , which Australians have not seen a major political party/s do during after September 7th 2013- May 21st 2022
The lib/nats are in the political wilderness at Federal/State/Territory levels , can not see that changing anytime soon
From the article:
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A zinger about a call to renationalise Qantas has left Today show host Karl Stefanovic in stitches.
The embattled airline is facing mounting backlash over record cancellations, flight disruptions and lost bags.
Greens transport spokeswoman Elizabeth Watson-Brown will use a statement in the House of Representatives to urge the Prime Minister to return the airline back to the public.
But Government Services Minister Bill Shorten quickly dismantled the idea when asked on Tuesday morning.
“I don’t know what the Greens have been smoking,” he joked.
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https://www-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/karl-stefanovic-loses-it-over-call-to-renationalise-qantas/news-story/ef174f15e2b720f501093e6b184c84e9?amp=&_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16624322610592&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.news.com.au%2Ftravel%2Ftravel-updates%2Fkarl-stefanovic-loses-it-over-call-to-renationalise-qantas%2Fnews-story%2Fef174f15e2b720f501093e6b184c84e9
Wonder if the US is nearing the brink of civil war?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/entry/far-right-idaho_n_628277e2e4b0c84db7282bd6/amp
Quasar says:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:15 pm
Wonder if the US is nearing the brink of civil war?
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California uber alles?
This 45 minutes presentation and Q&A provides a great insight into where we are going with batteries and EVs and how the focus needs to be on input materials supply chains and circular economies rather than battery assembly itself. Well worth watching!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzX6YFrXGu0&t=0s
Boerwar at 9.53am and the complicated politics of the Voice
GetUp formulates its leaflets based on a list of issues perceived as important, giving the parties ticks or crosses, then they distribute the leaflets at some polling booths.
It’s a long way from now to an election in early summer 2024 or autumn 2025. GetUp is unlikely to change the way they campaign. If the Greens do not support the Voice, they will get a (red) cross from GetUp, which would potentially lose the Greens many votes.
I have read John Menadue’s little comment on his blog yesterday. There is little beyond his headline. The argument is merely one by analogy, in this case the Greens’ failures to support the so-called Malaysian solution and the Rudd CPRS legislation. Arguments by analogy are inherently weak, and useful only when the object of analysis is obscure.
Obviously there will be intense discussions among the Greens MPs about what to do. Senators Faruqui, Hanson-Young and Waters have the most personal interest in the Greens getting to a sensible policy soon, as do the three new Greens MHRs in Brisbane. Those are the Greens MPs whose seats would be most at risk if the Greens lose votes.
Because of his experience in NSW, including working on issues of Aboriginal justice such as the Bowraville murders, Shoebridge would have some credibility within the Greens in getting to a sensible policy soon. How long it will take is anybody’s guess.
Comments such as Menadue’s (even without any real argument) will raise the pressure on the Greens. However, what is needed is an informal deal in which Burney and Pat Dodson commit to urgent action to address part of the Greens’ concerns on Aboriginal justice, including on deaths in custody. Dodson is fully aware of that tragedy as he was a Royal Commissioner on underlying issues causing that tragedy in WA 30+ years ago. The issues have not been addressed, and, because of the demographic profile of the Aboriginal population, the human scale of the tragedy has increased significantly.
Here is a link to a radio interview with Aboriginal activist Gwenda Stanley from June:
https://triplea.org.au/listen/programs/lets-talk/lets-talk-2022-episode-99-gwenda-stanley/
Gwenda probably on that program expresses a view similar to Lidia Thorpe’s. Those with that view need to be included in a broader discussion by Burney et. al., and thus reassured that the government is genuine. Given recent Australian history (remember Bob Hawke promised a Treaty “way back in 1988”), they have reasons for scepticism.
Labor has two options regarding the discussions within the Greens over the Voice. It can take the lazy road, and not seek to respond to Senator Thorpe’s genuine concerns. That would be a shame, as it’s ultimately a narrow approach relying on using a wedge against the Greens, namely the risk for them of lining up with Hanson in promoting No. I expect Shoebridge et. al. will ensure that risk never eventuates, so as not to lose votes.
The better choice for Labor is to respond seriously to Senator Thorpe’s position, which means meeting with her, having a genuine discussion, and proceeding with common action on issues of Aboriginal justice, then let Senator Thorpe make her choice for Yes.
In order of importance, the actors that Labor has to convince are: 1) Dutton, if possible; and 2) Senator Thorpe and the Greens. Arguably, if Dutton chooses No then the Yes case could still win, for reasons I have previously outlined (a key one being support from all State and Territory governments). But if both Dutton and Thorpe choose No, for very different reasons, then the chances of Yes winning drop substantially. The reason is that those Aboriginal activists whose view Senator Thorpe expresses are not a minor fringe group that could be simply ignored. They could publicly oppose the Voice (because of their scepticism that it will amount to anything worthwhile), and such opposition (while genuine – it is important to acknowledge that aspect) could easily be used by the media to construct a narrative of Aboriginal division that would assist No.
In short, the crude politics of the issue are these: Dutton is a potential spoiler, who may or may not be persuadable. So is Senator Thorpe (and the Greens), but for very different reasons, which need to be understood and appreciated, not dismissed. Other Aboriginal MPs are less significant because they don’t have Senator Thorpe’s profile, that is her capacity to organise opposition if she does not come onside. Senator Liddle from SA will most probably be supportive of the Voice. Senator Price of the NT never will be, but she, like Hanson, is just a media celebrity, without Senator Thorpe’s ability.
ABC the hill: Anne Webster MP in Victoria lists the Wind and Solar built in the Malley by the Vic Gov. but ends it as “under the coalition”, making it sound like the Coalition had something to do with it when they were trying to stop these developments.
Not the least of these was the deliberate strategy to increase uncertainty and raise the cost of finance. This was in a time of low interest rates and now that interest rates are rising it shows how not putting the interests of the nation first negatively impacts for a long time.
Quasar says:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:15 pm
“Wonder if the US is nearing the brink of civil war?”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/entry/far-right-idaho_n_628277e2e4b0c84db7282bd6/amp
One thing is for certain, imo they’re closer now than they have been since the 1860s. The Trump era (and it may not yet be over by a long way) is the critical inflexion point for US democracy. As though just inside a vortex, they’ll either come flying out the top or quickly be sucked into the inescapable depths. Never since the 1860’s has US disunity been greater with such fundamental threats to its very democratic existence (it has of course known certain disharmony in the past but never a threat to its democratic heart).
A re-election of Trump imho would potentially see dismemberment of the US with perhaps even global ramifications that would turn alliances and the geopolitical balance of power on its head.
Unions NSW have another case running against the NSW Government in the High Court leading up to the 2023 election. To be heard in November.
Can’t find the cause of action but maybe election funding laws.
Albanese is toying with the opposition.
Dr D
Labir has taken tge lead, and I mean LEAD on the Statement.
Labir tied its colours to the mast during the campaign.
The FIRST words in the FIRST speech by Albanese post election was a recommitment to Voice Makarrata and Treaty.
Inter alia this leadership has resulted in a clear majority of those polled supporting a voice.
OTOH, the Greens have stated that they support the Statement. (They did 5 years ago. They don’t now.)
At the same time Thorpe (not then a Greens Senator) was leading a tiny minority walkout from the Uluru discussions.
The Greens have stated that the Voice is ‘a comolete’ waste of money’. Combined with this is a promise that the Greens will negotiate ‘in good faith’. How do those statements cohere?
Senator Cox, presumably by way of undermining the legitimacy of the Statement seemed to imply that most of those involved in putting the Statement together were non-Indigenous. A nice backhander to the Indigenous majority who DID put the Statement together.
I don’t accept the ludicrous and insulting framing that the only way in which Labor will act on Indigenous issues is if a minority party forces them to. Nor do I accept that the ball is in Labor’s court.
It is time for the Greens to behave consistently, to show respect to the majority Indigenous and Australian views, to stop feeding Hanson et al and, quite frankly, to act like adults.
Over to you, Mr Bandt!
OTOH, the Greens have been all iver
Albanese is in full flight today
Dr D
I am hoping that the Greens leadership received something of a storm of internal criticism. There has been near complete public silence on the topic since Thorpe’s last sally and the follow up attempt at tidying the mess up by Bandt. I have my fingers crossed that this means that discussions are ocurring between Labor and the Greens.
Dutton and his cronies are playing into Labor’s hands
Latest Essential.
https://essentialreport.com.au/
Dr Doolittle says:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:32 pm
………Labor has two options regarding the discussions within the Greens over the Voice. It can take the lazy road, and not seek to respond to Senator Thorpe’s genuine concerns. That would be a shame, as it’s ultimately a narrow approach relying on using a wedge against the Greens, namely the risk for them of lining up with Hanson in promoting No. I expect Shoebridge et. al. will ensure that risk never eventuates, so as not to lose votes.
The better choice for Labor is to respond seriously to Senator Thorpe’s position, which means meeting with her, having a genuine discussion, and proceeding with common action on issues of Aboriginal justice, then let Senator Thorpe make her choice for Yes.
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Labor’s policy and election commitment was to implement the Uluṟu Statement from the Heart. The commitment wasn’t to negotiate with the Greens about which bits of the Statement from the Heart to implement. Labor can’t negotiate with the Greens on Senator Thorpe’s opposition to the Voice because the Statement from the Heart is not its to negotiate.
If the Greens have a problem with the Statement from the Heart, the people to talk to are the ‘owners’ of that Statement – Australia’s indigenous communities.
The tactics and language used by the various sides arguing over a Voice demonstrate the necessity of a Voice.
What are First Nations agendas, concerns and discussions are being distorted by partisan Australian politics. First Nations’ positions are being framed as “Labor” or “Greens” or “Coalition” (including by First Nations individuals who should know better).
That’s not to say Labor, the Greens and the Coalition don’t have their own agendas regarding First Nations issues, but they should not be conflated with First Nations’ agendas.
A First Nations’ Voice that is independent of the Australian State’s partisan politics will minimise such confusions. Until then, any and every First Nations’ issue (including the Voice itself) will be subjected to partisan distortions.
“Fairwork Australia” = classic “1984” Newspeak. Classic John Howard doublespeak. The Ruptertaria love it.
FFS. I don’t like it when ministers like McBain cannot follow simple rules about managing their personal assets.
Boerwar @ #520 Tuesday, September 6th, 2022 – 2:35 pm
Are you saying she should be sacked from the ministry ?
DN @ 2.33
exactemundo.
Ironically this would undercut the status of those whose personal voice is amplified by their role in whitefella parties: eg Burney, Thorpe and Price.
Rex
No.
Why didn’t the RBA lift the cash rate pre-election ?
Were they protecting the Morrison Govt’s electoral interests ?
Within the last three months the neoStalinist Comrades have called for:
public ownership of the energy industry
public ownership of QANTAS
freezing rent
government fixing wages
government fixing interest rates.
Rex Douglas @ #526 Tuesday, September 6th, 2022 – 2:41 pm
Technically they did. Though by the time they did it’s fair enough to argue that it was Labor’s election to lose and everybody (RBA included) knew it.
Idiot Lowe & his banksters at the Reserve have raised rates for the fifth time in a row by 0.5% taking the cash rate to 2.35%
Would someone care to explain to an economic illiterate such as myself how increasing interest rates (which can only dampen demand based inflation) can dampen the present inflationary phase of the economy which is due to supply based factors of disrupted supply chains and an energy crisis?
TIA
Boerwar @ #523 Tuesday, September 6th, 2022 – 2:39 pm
Morrison let his crew get away with shoddy standards.
Is Albanese doing the same ?
Essential services like QANTAS should never have been sold by the Govt.
The Neo Stalinist comrades are also doing a re-run of Lysenko. They will stop extinctions by 2030.
Rex
Back to my golden rule: never engage with Pnathrextor.
Cabinet of Liz Truss
Liz Truss to appoint a Cabinet of loyalists: (From The Guardian)
Kwasi Kwarteng, Truss’s closest cabinet ally, will become her chancellor, and she is also expected to confirm the appointments of Suella Braverman as home secretary and James Cleverly as foreign secretary. Those appointments will mean that, for the first time, there will be no white men in the four great offices of state.
Her rival, Rishi Sunak, is not expected to be offered a job in her cabinet, a break from the tradition whereby most unsuccessful leadership contenders have been offered posts. The former chancellor told the BBC that the cabinet was “not something I’m thinking about”, and some allies suggested he would prefer to remain on the backbenches in case Truss’s leadership implodes.
Priti Patel and Nadine Dorries both announced that they would quit as home and culture secretaries, and return to the backbenches. Cabinet Office minister Nigel Adams and Tory party co-chair Ben Elliot also announced their resignations.
I find it shocking that Thorpe had to publicly call out Burney for lack of engagement re the Voice.
BK says:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:27 pm
“This 45 minutes presentation and Q&A provides a great insight into where we are going with batteries and EVs and how the focus needs to be on input materials supply chains and circular economies rather than battery assembly itself. Well worth watching!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzX6YFrXGu0&t=0s”
A really interesting video BK. I’ve followed JB Straubel and Redwood for sometime and both his understanding of the current and future supply chain as well as his desire to be involved in closed loop recycling are impressive. Clearly too Australia has a strategic part to play in this from a perspective of raw materials and it’s critical we move expeditiously and cleverly where possible to strike strategic markets and place ourselves at the centre of this revolution.
Cronus
Exactly!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Boerwar @ #532 Tuesday, September 6th, 2022 – 2:55 pm
You wedged yourself re standards and McBain.
“But Government Services Minister Bill Shorten quickly dismantled the idea when asked on Tuesday morning.
“I don’t know what the Greens have been smoking,” he joked.”
Renationalising Qantas is just a no brainer. Do what NZ does, withhold support till it fails and sweep up a controlling interest for what in all likelihood would be less cost than the donations taxpayers keep giving them. I understand Air NZ is one of the best airlines in the world.
Very disappointing that Labor is just so ignorant, so very stupid. So very right wing. They would have been perfect centre right, cut pensions, jail poor people, take food of single mothers types before the GFC, but for the GFC to have unmasked the problems with the trickle down imbecility and Labor to still be members of the cult is hard to explain. How can they be that stupid?
So the RBA went the full 0.5%?
Repeating policy errors of the past?
“Within the last three months the neoStalinist Comrades have called for:
public ownership of the energy industry
public ownership of QANTAS
freezing rent
government fixing wages
government fixing interest rates.”
well now I know privatising, or taking a controlling interest in Qantas is a good idea.
You all need to go and watch Mick Lynch.
WWP
You seem to have missed the point. The Greens are finally showing their true economic colours: they intend to run a Stalinist command and control economy.
Reserve bank are basically trying to create unemployment and kill business at this point, which is one way to reduce inflation I guess when you have no control over external factors.
Dutton couldn’t get out of the chamber quick enough
“WWP
You seem to have missed the point. The Greens are finally showing their true economic colours: they intend to run a Stalinist command and control economy.”
Other than your ignorant and / or dishonest description, you have missed the point. With the apparent failure of trickle down, and excesses and cruelty of unregulated capitalism intelligent people are looking for better solutions. Go listen to Mick Lynch and / or get onto the pot, skull a few vodkas, it can’t hurt and it might open your mind.
Labor members are cowering under a withering attack in a MP from the devastating and super-effective Sussan Ley.
Anyone, if your work will only allow you to run 32 bit excel, what is the best way to speed up power query?
WWP
The evidence is clear. Nationalising the gas industry would cost half a trillion. Or would the Greens just grab it? Please explain.
WWP
Try being abusive towards it.
I posted here a few days ago about the silliness of the situation involving the shares and Ministers McBain and Ayres (and less so Shorten cause there is a complication). Ridiculed by some.
But it is such an own goal for the Govt perpetuated by those in the outer outer Ministry. How hard was it for them to sell out of them? I mean Ayres says it was only $1500 worth. It’s just an own goal in my view and is just an easy chink in the armour about the code.
I also fully support Albanese in saying get rid of share holdings. He should also say get rid of Qantas Club invites. And stop inviting Joyce onto the PM plane. But that’s a different issue.