A consensus has locked in over the past week behind the notion that the federal election will not be until May, with John Kehoe of the Financial Review reporting public servants have been told to cut short summer holiday plans to help prepare a pre-election budget in April. The government will then be able to “fight the poll on an expected economic bounce-back from COVID-19”.
Also:
• Liberal member John Alexander has announced he will not seek re-election in his Sydney seat of Bennelong, which he recovered for the Liberals in 2010 following John Howard’s historic defeat in 2007. The Sydney Morning Herald reports contenders for the preselection are likely to include Gisele Kapterian, a former chief-of-staff to Michaelia Cash and current executive at software company Salesforce, and City of Sydney councillor Craig Chung. Kapterian was mentioned as a possible challenger to Alexander’s preselection earlier in the year.
• The federal government seems to be struggling to get the numbers it will need to pass its voter identification bill through the Senate before the election. With One Nation for and Labor, the Greens and independent Senator Rex Patrick vehemently opposed, the swing votes in the Senate are Centre Alliance Senator Stirling Griff and independent Jacqui Lambie. While Griff supports the idea in principle, the Financial Review reports that Lambie and the Centre Alliance’s lower house member, Mayo MP Rebekha Sharkie, has criticised the short time frame and the government’s prioritisation of the matter over issues including the establishment a federal integrity commission. Independent MP Bob Katter added to the momentum against the measure when he declared it “blatantly racist” due to its disproportionate impact on indigenous voters.
• In the period between his drink driving misadventure a fortnight ago and announcement at the start of this week that he would bow out at the next election, Tim Smith’s Victorian state seat of Kew was the subject of a comprehensive poll by Redbridge Group which had Liberal on 39%, Labor on 31% and the Greens on 12%, suggesting a close contest between Liberal and Labor at the final count to be determined by the unknown quantity of independent and small party preferences. However, the poll also recorded a 40.2% “very unfavourable” rating for state Labor, along with 44.9% for Smith and 49.5% for one of his backers, Tony Abbott. The poll was conducted November 4 to 7 from a sample of 920.
• The Liberals have confirmed candidates for two Hunter region seats that swung heavily against Labor in 2019. In Paterson, where the margin was cut from 10.7% to 5.0% in 2019, the candidate will be Brooke Vitnell, a family law solicitor and former ministerial staffer to Paul Fletcher and Senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells. Shortland will again be contested by Nell McGill, a commercial litigator at Sparke Helmore Lawyers, who cut the margin from 9.9% to 4.4% in 2019.
• It has come to my attention that US pollster Morning Consult conducts a weekly tracking poll of approval and disapproval for 13 world leaders including Scott Morrison, who has lately fallen into net negative territory.
Anyway, I think I’ve made my point. My last noose I promise.
Well done Nath you have found in image of Abbott and noose, amazing!
Congratulations
Yep, nath, we get it – you condone the use of nooses at protests.
Well done, you.
Game, set and match to firefox.
What a trove of historically pro RW(because it paints any movement of the Left in a bad light), material nath has at his fingertips, with the express aim of defusing outrage at something the Lunar Right did yesterday. Interesting, to say the least. 😐
C@tmomma says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 4:26 pm
What a trove of historically pro RW(because it paints any movement of the Left in a bad light), material nath has at his fingertips,
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yes it’s a special program I developed called google images.
Carlton’s Liam Jones has announced his retirement from the AFL after reportedly refusing to receive the COVID-19 vaccination.
The Blues released a media statement on Sunday afternoon confirming Jones’s retirement, without referencing his vaccination status.
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Taylormadesays:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:26 pm
steve davissays:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 2:34 pm
Laughtong
And all because its a Labor govt in VIC and the right wing looney media hate it and will do anything to bring Andrews and whoever associates with him down. If it was a Lib govt they would be heroes.
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Why are they doing such a shithouse job in selling and explaining the new pandemic legislation ?
If it is a good reform it shouldn’t be that bloody hard.
Labor seem to have lost the ability to sell. Everything has to be under handed and kept secret from public.
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Taylormaid: ‘Everything has to be under handed and kept secret from public.’
The above statement is a projection of LNP on ALP because we know how secretive LNP is
zoomster says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 4:25 pm
Yep, nath, we get it – you condone the use of nooses at protests.
Well done, you.
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I’m just glad it’s not me determining the limits of robust political expression.
Ven @ #809 Sunday, November 14th, 2021 – 4:36 pm
And I notice that TaylorMade has not responded to the answer I gave to this.
That you are a numbnut?
I point out the difference between a protest against having to wear a mask and limit movement during a pandemic and one that protests against policies that create obscene wealth for the 1% while at the same time creating a large underclass of working poor that struggle (and fail in vast numbers) to put a roof over their children’s head, food in their mouths and provide them with basic health care and education. I understand and sympathise the anger shown in the later, I support the right for the former to protest. And I condemn all use of death threats as a means of protest.
This is a concerning policy from the Liberals – why can’t they leave the retired people alone?
Boerwar @ #721 Sunday, November 14th, 2021 – 11:41 am
The sarcasm font didn’t work again.
But you have no idea what the motivation and hence the goal of that action was. You just project your cultural views on it discounting all other possibilities.
If you had any real appreciation of Asian culture you would understand that the easiest way to find trouble is to project your culture values on a situation. Often the outcome that you observe doesn’t make sense from that perspective. It’s only when you realise that they are looking at from an entirely different angle that the result starts to become clearer.
The fact that you are so willing to discount cultural differences is why I believe your rantings on China are so flawed.
Simon Katich says:
I point out the difference between a protest against having to wear a mask and limit movement during a pandemic
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That’s a different matter and I am against the protests for that reason. If you want to arrest people for displaying nooses then that’s your opinion. Is Burning effigies ok? How about political leaders used as pinatas? Where are you going to draw the line oh great Legislator?
Poor Cameron says: 55-45
zoomster – in your party work did you ever met Peter Steedman?
I thought Collingwood had a mortgage on these clowns…
‘Carlton’s Liam Jones has announced his retirement from the AFL after reportedly refusing to receive the COVID-19 vaccination.
The Blues had been in “regular contact” with Jones during the off-season period
Jones played 161 AFL matches across two clubs, the Blues and Bulldogs
The Blues released a media statement on Sunday afternoon confirming Jones’s retirement, without referencing his vaccination status.
The club said it had been in regular contact with Jones during the off-season in a “bid to provide appropriate support for the 30-year-old”.
Jones said he made the decision for “personal reasons”.
“I wish to announce my retirement from AFL football effective immediately,” Jones said in the statement.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-14/afl-carlton-covid-19-liam-jones-announces-retirement/100619656
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Firefoxsays:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 4:04 pm
“That is a deliberate false statement or you are living in fatansy land. Only Greens never had balance of power. There were 3 more who helped ALP formed government.
As I posted earlier I dare you, I repeat, I dare you to go and ask Bandt to release a statement that Greens will not direct preference to ALP.”
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No, again it’s the truth, not some nonsensical rage about the Greens. You’ve forgotten that there’s a second house of Parliament called the Senate. The Greens gained the balance of power in the Senate at the 2010 Election. We then used that, as well as being in the balance of power in the House, to implement the ETS.
And as I keep explaining to people like you who don’t seem to have much of a clue what they’re talking about, political parties don’t decide where preferences go, voters do. The Greens oppose the Coalition far more strongly than
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Governments are formed in House of Reps. AndVGreens did not have balance of power in HOR. I don’t give rats back side what numbers Greens had in Senate. Those numbers are only useful to negotiate a legislation and not to form a government. So it is not me it is you who doesn’t know how a government is formed. ETS legislation came up for voting in Senate because ALP was in power and that is only 1/77 thanks to Greens, I repeat that that is only 1/77 thanks to Greens. So if ALP was not in power, no ETS bill. So no thanks to Greens.
I know how preference works. The voters decide their preference in the voting booth but the parties offer and direct preferences to voters in the form of paper before they enter voting booth.
So again I repeat ask Bandt to direct Preferences against ALP.
Greens are not Greens. They are Watermelons. Green outside and red inside. I do want those kind of Greens.
Boerwar @ #725 Sunday, November 14th, 2021 – 11:52 am
I doubt that very much and I strongly doubt Andrew thinks that way. His writing here gives no indication of such a belief.
Lars
Possibly but not that I remember. Name’s familiar but more as one that I’ve heard around.
nath @ #807 Sunday, November 14th, 2021 – 4:30 pm
But you knew there was one? You took an interest in Occupy Melbourne in 2014 and retained that specific image in your memory did you? Or the other one from the American Occupy protests in 2011? Or you were just lucky that your random image searches came up trumps?
C@tmomma says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 5:10 pm
But you knew there was one? You took an interest in Occupy Melbourne in 2014 and retained that specific image in your memory did you? Or the other one from the American Occupy protests in 2011? Or you were just lucky that your random image searches came up trumps?
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I cannot confirm or deny I have an association Cambridge Analytica, Menzies House and the IPA.
I am not against the Melbourne protests. Strong laws like that deserve critical attention and protest if people so choose. But I dont understand how temporary laws involving vaccinations, masks and some movement restrictions to protect the vulnerable and not so vulnerable (and, Andrews would argue, the economy and everyone as a whole) in a pandemic can make you so angry you threaten or suggest the hanging of someone.
It isnt that hard if you care to try. Carrying a noose and gallows, no matter how comical, is offensive and threatening (unless it was to protest the rising cost of timber and rope). I am not saying the people should be jailed for years. The police should ask them to remove it and if they dont the police should either take it from them and/or fine them with the potential for a conviction.
I have to wonder about the Liberals chances in Paterson.
Yes, it was held by the Liberals pre-2016. But there was a redistribution in 2015 that transformed it into a notional Labor seat after losing Forster-Tuncurry and everything north of Port Stephens to Lyne while gaining Maitland and Kurri Kurri from Hunter and Beresfield and Woodberry from Newcastle.
And yes, it got a bit of a swing last time. But that the area is close to the Hunter Coal fields where the scare campaign on Labor’s carbon policies. I doubt they going to be able to milk that one again in the same way to gain another 5%.
Yes, they have an “attractive” candidate. But they doesn’t mean much to the vast majority of voters. If the swing is on which polling suggest it is in NSW, they going against the tide is awfully hard.
Likewise, the belief that Shortland is in play is basically a straw grasp.
“Greens are not Greens. They are Watermelons. Green outside and red inside. I do want those kind of Greens.”
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Sometimes a post just speaks for itself. This is one of those times.
Nath
I dont give a damn trot if you are left right or inbetween.
Inciting violence deserves the book.
Has there been any mention of vaccine passports for the ashes test in Adelaide? I cant find booo from Marshall or CA about it.
12 Nov 2021. Transcript of part of Morrison’s speech at the Indian Community Centre, Rowville.
https://www.pm.gov.au/media/remarks-australian-indian-community-centre-rowville-victoria
Believe it or not.
C@t,
Go to google images: type “noose Tony Abbott”.
The image nath posted is second result.
The website hosting the noose image is occupymelbourne.net
Google “noose occupy”
Nothing that relevant.
Suggested search includes “hanging”
Click “hanging”
First result is “Occupy Wall Street inspired artist hangs banker dummy”.
Done.
It’s what is known as “Google-fu”.
“Google-fu (uncountable)
(informal) Skill in using search engines (especially Google) to quickly find useful information on the Internet.
Lars Von Trier @ #786 Sunday, November 14th, 2021 – 4:05 pm
Put me down for 70/30 to Labor.
Oh no, stuff it, 75/25
Go to google images: type “noose Tony Abbott”.
bakunin,
Isn’t that the point though? Who knew that there was an image of Tony Abbott and a noose? Or that you should type those words into google search?
And thank you for letting me know that it wasn’t the Occupy people who hung the effigy of the corporate bankster but an artist inspired by their movement.
Now, I’m still trying to get my head around ‘Google Fu’ Please explain a bit more. 🙂
Okay, I read the explanation again. I think I get it. My question still stands, how would anyone know what specifically to type in to get the desired result of a one and only google image?
Cold war euphemisms don’t really resonate with those of us born in the last 50 years, so when you talk about the colour ‘red’ politically, we primarily think of centre-left parties in most of the world (and the GOP in the US because Americans have to be different.) So, when you talk about Greens being green on the outside and red on the inside, it doesn’t have the effect you think it does.
And I’d take green on the outside and red on the inside, over red on the outside and blue on the inside (I can’t think of a real thing to use for that colour metaphor.)
C@t
lizzie,
I’m amazed Morrison didn’t reference a relative who was in the British Army in India. 🙄
C@t,
I was going to add that it’s not necessary to *know* something exists, just that it’s likely to exist.
Abbott was most hated LNP leader of recent time, so fairly good chance someone would have used hanging imagery.
nath,
But I am always willing to learn and improve my chops.
I can’t see how “Get a jab, get a jab” will persuade those who believe the vaccine is poisonous or part of a conspiracy.
C@tmomma @ #835 Sunday, November 14th, 2021 – 5:35 pm
As a retired librarian who did research queries at times, this is very much part of the librarian’s skill set and also totally unappreciated.
Mr Newbie
“No great loss to the health system to be rid of these two…”
I agree. Like the anti-vaxx teachers who were shown the door. No great loss.
They now have more time to search for those underground tunnels where all the kiddies are being trafficked by Satanists.
SK,
Perhaps the Police could ask the perps to demonstrate how it works.
I do not have a formal objection to nooses in protests. While they are nasty, I regard them as an indicator of the people who display them. I tend to ignore them, so that the fools who use them get no reaction.
But I enjoy white privilege and nooses have no cultural or historical roots in being lynched for being black. Particularly in the USA, nooses have a particularly nasty racist meaning. That again speaks if the people who put them up.
Now Madame Guillotine is another matter. My historical social class background gives me a warm glow with thoughts of steel-knitting needles. Except in reality many of the oorvand working class rode the tumbrels along with France’s 1%, so violence cannot be a solution.
C@tmomma says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 5:41 pm
nath,
But I am always willing to learn and improve my chops.
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For my own amusement I would have preferred you remain thinking I am part of a vast right wing conspiracy but it seems others are nicer than me.
nath,
Firefox says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 1:12 pm
Yeah well the Greens don’t support environmental vandalism, tax cuts for the rich, leaving people in poverty, or abusing asylum seekers, do we.
The Greens campaign at all times and in all places for the defeat of Labor and, ipso facto for the perpetuation of reactionary rule in this country. This is one of the most obvious conclusions to draw from observations of Australian political history in the 21st century.
Reformism is fucked.
Even if Labor were to win an election in the House of Representatives, the Greens and the LNP will collude to destroy the Labor Government. The fissure in the pro-Labor plurality means the reactionaries have the upper hand here. This will not change until the fissure is closed, and since that will not happen we should look forward to further unbroken decades of reactionary rule, rule designed, procured and nourished by Green political strategies.
This is our fate. We are fucked.
Wat Tyler
“…, over red on the outside and blue on the inside (I can’t think of a real thing to use for that colour metaphor.)”
A homicidal Smurf? A dead Santa?
A very dark David Rowe.
Put me down for 52.5 / 47.5 for Newspoll to the ALP.
So, given rounding, either 53/47 or 52/48.
The election is on!!!!! and some of the undecided may be starting to think about it.
Of course, over Christmas, with our cold, wet La Niña weather, most people will forget about voting, and by Australia Day we will probably be back to 51/49 to the ALP.