A consensus has locked in over the past week behind the notion that the federal election will not be until May, with John Kehoe of the Financial Review reporting public servants have been told to cut short summer holiday plans to help prepare a pre-election budget in April. The government will then be able to “fight the poll on an expected economic bounce-back from COVID-19”.
Also:
• Liberal member John Alexander has announced he will not seek re-election in his Sydney seat of Bennelong, which he recovered for the Liberals in 2010 following John Howard’s historic defeat in 2007. The Sydney Morning Herald reports contenders for the preselection are likely to include Gisele Kapterian, a former chief-of-staff to Michaelia Cash and current executive at software company Salesforce, and City of Sydney councillor Craig Chung. Kapterian was mentioned as a possible challenger to Alexander’s preselection earlier in the year.
• The federal government seems to be struggling to get the numbers it will need to pass its voter identification bill through the Senate before the election. With One Nation for and Labor, the Greens and independent Senator Rex Patrick vehemently opposed, the swing votes in the Senate are Centre Alliance Senator Stirling Griff and independent Jacqui Lambie. While Griff supports the idea in principle, the Financial Review reports that Lambie and the Centre Alliance’s lower house member, Mayo MP Rebekha Sharkie, has criticised the short time frame and the government’s prioritisation of the matter over issues including the establishment a federal integrity commission. Independent MP Bob Katter added to the momentum against the measure when he declared it “blatantly racist” due to its disproportionate impact on indigenous voters.
• In the period between his drink driving misadventure a fortnight ago and announcement at the start of this week that he would bow out at the next election, Tim Smith’s Victorian state seat of Kew was the subject of a comprehensive poll by Redbridge Group which had Liberal on 39%, Labor on 31% and the Greens on 12%, suggesting a close contest between Liberal and Labor at the final count to be determined by the unknown quantity of independent and small party preferences. However, the poll also recorded a 40.2% “very unfavourable” rating for state Labor, along with 44.9% for Smith and 49.5% for one of his backers, Tony Abbott. The poll was conducted November 4 to 7 from a sample of 920.
• The Liberals have confirmed candidates for two Hunter region seats that swung heavily against Labor in 2019. In Paterson, where the margin was cut from 10.7% to 5.0% in 2019, the candidate will be Brooke Vitnell, a family law solicitor and former ministerial staffer to Paul Fletcher and Senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells. Shortland will again be contested by Nell McGill, a commercial litigator at Sparke Helmore Lawyers, who cut the margin from 9.9% to 4.4% in 2019.
• It has come to my attention that US pollster Morning Consult conducts a weekly tracking poll of approval and disapproval for 13 world leaders including Scott Morrison, who has lately fallen into net negative territory.
Kakuru @ #743 Sunday, November 14th, 2021 – 2:26 pm
Do you have to celebrate an anniversary? The way I see it is that the wedding happened. You carry that event with you. But I admit BW’s math is more fun.
Taylormade @ #742 Sunday, November 14th, 2021 – 3:26 pm
Perhaps they are in an environment where selling anything has become impossible due to the rabble that has been emboldened by the Herald Sun and Sky after Dark and Qanon. Of course the local Libs are opposing point blank – how can you sell or negiotate when there is no starting point.
‘Hang Dan Andrews’ was one of the chants I heard in the raw footage of the protests yesterday (along with ‘sack Dan Andrews’ and ‘jail Dan Andrews’ – jailing your opponent seems to be the go with these Trumpian types). Quite chilling when combined with nooses.
and
Well the protesters didn’t just swing the nooses around.
According to an article in SMH protesters were calling for certain MPs to be hung.
They also had arrived on MPMeddicks doorstep when he wasnt home & threatened his wife & son.
They should be hunted down & prosecuted.
Albo & Co need to pin Morrison down on this. Kelly was cheering the action on. This, from the dickhead given a glowing character reference from Morrison.
laughtongsays:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 2:28 pm
Part of another comment on the Jon Faine piece.
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I could respond but am not sure who I am responding to. You or someone commenting in The Age.
Any chance of some original thought.
Late Riser says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:27 pm
A noose is a pretty vague threat though.
We’ll have to disagree. It’s quite clear to me what holding up a noose to someone means.
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How far do we take the right to protest?
I do believe that Occupy Wall Street had nooses with Corporate effigies swinging from them.
Perhaps it’s just when our political opponents deploy the noose that we get all outraged.
For whatever warped reason, that had me thinking of Morrison’s response to the women’s protest, earlier this year. WTTE “At least we didn’t shoot you.”
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Kakurusays:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 2:26 pm
“At an event last night to mark the 10th anniversary of the carbon price being legislated”
An honest question: If the thing that you’re marking the beginning of no longer exists… is it still an anniversary?
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I am just baffled by the fantasy land in which FFs lives.
Taylormade @ #753 Sunday, November 14th, 2021 – 3:35 pm
See my comment at 3:35 with some original comment of mine.
“I have a suggestion for the Greens next convoy to help the Coalition win the next election: a ganja convoy!”
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It’s been done. Welcome to Nimbin! 😀
Nath at 3.37pm
Death threats are serious.
It is not good enough for you to ‘believe’ that ‘Occupy’ protesters swung nooses. Do some work. Provide evidence.
Your comment richly deserves to be ignored.
344,124 of the ACT’s 344,037 citizens 16+ have had their first dose.
The crackpots are a very small but very noisy minority thanks to corporate R/W media.
Richard Willingham
@rwillingham
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93.1 per cent of the Big V (12+) have had at least one dose and 87.0 per cent have had two doses. Edging closer to the all important 90% for further easing of restrictions.
@abcmelbourne
Taylormade says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:35 pm
..
I could respond but am not sure who I am responding to. You or a someone commenting in The Age.
Any chance of some original thought.
Why? All the liberals seem to be able to offer these days is repackaged republican crap from the USA.
The Observer
Boris Johnson
‘How Johnson pledged help for my business to win my love’
I’ll be your throttle, he told Arcuri as mayor
Diaries could reopen misconduct inquiry….
This has to be the best photograph to ever accompany such an article.., by a long shot.
The 3 nooses weren’t the only ones. The MadFuckingWitches Twitter account has some photos of other examples – which are much clearer in intent and deserve a visit from the plods. Won’t be re-posting.
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Firefoxsays:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 2:53 pm
“firefox
What convoy is Bandt going to do to help the Coalition in the next election? Have you guys sorted that out yet?”
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Times have changed, Comrade Boerski. Crossing the border into Queensland and the NT to get to Adani and Beetaloo is a little difficult at the moment. Don’t have an issue with that either BTW, it’s just the reality of “Covid normal” for now.
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This above statement is the proof that Greens LNP to be elected. It is just that they constrained by current COVID normal. The cat is out of the bag.
‘Shellbell says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:41 pm
344,124 of the ACT’s 344,037 citizens 16+ have had their first dose.’
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One of the toddler grandchildren was taken for a test today. Fingers crossed.
Has Scotty said anything about the protests yet?
Or has he disappeared again?
I am sure he doesn’t want to say anything bad about these people, as he really wants their votes.
I mean after he was caught out saying “ritual abuse” as a wink to the Qanon folks, I guess he is laying low for now letting Clive do his dirty work.
‘sprocket_ says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:42 pm
The 3 nooses weren’t the only ones. The MadFuckingWitches Twitter account has some photos of other examples – which are much clearer in intent and deserve a visit from the plods. Won’t be re-posting.’
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Thank you, Spr. I’m getting nasty flashbacks, ATM.
Seriously Nath, a noose has only one connotation – whether it be suicide or by the hands of someone else – death!
You have jumped the shark.
My ‘original thought’ is anyone parading around holding up a noose is a concern and Neil Mitchell urging his listeners to join in is equally concerning.
“This above statement is the proof that Greens LNP to be elected. It is just that they constrained by current COVID normal. The cat is out of the bag.”
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lol what? The LNP and Labor support Adani and Beetaloo. The Greens are the ones actually opposing the Coalition while Labor are the ones teaming up with them.
tps://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-7-weeks-in/100183/
If you can be bothered watching all 1 hour and 54 minutes of this, somewhere in this you can find the ‘hang Dan Andrews’ chant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnKM_JJOIAs
Another ‘highlight’ is two anti-vaxx nurses addressing the crowd.
“Satanic ritual abuse” also gets a mention, at 36:26.
lol what? The LNP and Labor support Adani and Beetaloo. The Greens are the ones actually opposing the Coalition while Labor are the ones teaming up with them.
That statement is so fringing boring / lame ……
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Firefoxsays:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 2:37 pm
When the Greens did gain the balance of power ………
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That is a deliberate false statement or you are living in fatansy land. Only Greens never had balance of power. There were 3 more who helped ALP formed government.
As I posted earlier I dare you, I repeat, I dare you to go and ask Bandt to release a statement that Greens will not direct preference to ALP.
“That statement is so fringing boring / lame ……”
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Sorry but it’s the truth. I know some people are sick of hearing about the climate emergency and what must be done to address it but it’s not something that is going to go away. While Labor continue teaming up with the Coalition and continue to support environmental vandalism like Adani and Beetaloo they are just another big part of the problem.
There are many photos of Trump effigies hanging from nooses as part of the anti-trump campaigns. Presumably no body here had a problem with them.
Getting away from the daily Labor vs Greens war on this blog, any predictions for Newspoll tonight?
Here is mine: Labor 54, Coalition 46, Morrison’s disapproval rating goes up a little
Rich rivers of hypocrisy and wilful blindness have always flown through PB.
Nath we are in Australia not America…
Mr Newbie
“Another ‘highlight’ is two anti-vaxx nurses addressing the crowd.”
Are they still nurses?
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Firefoxsays:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:50 pm
“This above statement is the proof that Greens LNP to be elected. It is just that they constrained by current COVID normal. The cat is out of the bag.”
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lol what? The LNP and Labor support Adani and Beetaloo. The Greens are the ones actually opposing the Coalition while Labor are the ones teaming up with them.
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I mean if Greens take the convoy, LNP will be elected this time like last time. No doubt that. That is the reason I said Greens wish to take the convoy is a proof they want LNP to be elected.
“That is a deliberate false statement or you are living in fatansy land. Only Greens never had balance of power. There were 3 more who helped ALP formed government.
As I posted earlier I dare you, I repeat, I dare you to go and ask Bandt to release a statement that Greens will not direct preference to ALP.”
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No, again it’s the truth, not some nonsensical rage about the Greens. You’ve forgotten that there’s a second house of Parliament called the Senate. The Greens gained the balance of power in the Senate at the 2010 Election. We then used that, as well as being in the balance of power in the House, to implement the ETS.
And as I keep explaining to people like you who don’t seem to have much of a clue what they’re talking about, political parties don’t decide where preferences go, voters do. The Greens oppose the Coalition far more strongly than anyone else.
Nicko says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 4:03 pm
Nath we are in Australia not America…
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So you support the use of nooses as part of American political expression but want them banned here?
Evan says:
Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 4:03 pm
Getting away from the daily Labor vs Greens war on this blog, any predictions for Newspoll tonight?
Here is mine: Labor 54, Coalition 46, Morrison’s disapproval rating goes up a little
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Put me and Sprockets down for 63:37 in Albo’s favour.
“I mean if Greens take the convoy, LNP will be elected this time like last time. No doubt that. That is the reason I said Greens wish to take the convoy is a proof they want LNP to be elected.”
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Ahh so you were blaming Labor’s poor campaign and fence sitting on the Greens.
Now hurry up and get to 80%. 😉
When students burned an effigy of Tony Abbott is that a death threat by immolation?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/university-students-burn-an-effigy-of-tony-abbott-as-they-prote/5058618?nw=0
Nath,
No I don’t support nooses as a political expression. The US is quite clearly in terminal decline, Jan 6 was a great example of that.
It is however a good warning to whats to come in Australia, if we don’t do anything about it.
These protests are a really big warning sign of that
Has Morrison made any comment on the Melbourne rioters today? Is he still in Melbourne? I’ve lost track.
Liberal turncoat Craig Kelly will face a grassroots challenge from ‘We are Hughes’ candidate Linda Seymour, ratcheting up the already difficult task he faces to stay in Parliament.
Ms Seymour was named as the grassroots candidate for Hughes on Sunday and is the latest in a series of ‘Voices of’ or ‘We are’ candidates targeting Liberals across the country.
The Member for Hughes during a doorstop interview in Parliament.
The unifying issues for these candidates are typically climate, integrity in government and community issues such as communications.
And like other similar candidates in seats such as Hume, North Sydney and Kooyong, they typically draw their inspiration from Cathy McGowan and then her successor Helen Haines in the Victorian rural seat of Indi, Rebekha Sharkie in South Australia’s Mayo and Zali Steggall in the Sydney seat of Warringah.
Ahead of the announcement, Ms Seymour said fighting for greater action to mitigate climate change was one of the key motivators for founding the group.
Mr Kelly’s views on vaccination, and the lack of an integrity commission at a federal election were key drivers too.
During the polling period Morrison buggered up our international cred, stole my weekend, filled his cake hole, and told some lies.
I had thought that the 2PP would peak at around 54/46 and that there would be a gradual downward slide from there as the pent up demand boom gets cracking, but I reckon we might see a 55/45. Just this once. Labor’s primary will be north of the Coalition’s primary. The Greens will hover in their MOE flatland. Morrison’s net sat will slide further. PPM will hardly budge. On the primaries, others will be around 15%. ON will be 2% or less.
Maybe the Greens could do a convoy of failed Greens leaders?
Kakuru:
From memory, one said she had been a nurse for 39 years (before recently being stood down). The other was a younger nurse, probably in her 30s, who said something about AHPRA advising all registered health practioners that they cannot speak out against the vaccines, or face losing their registration. I assume she is no longer working as a nurse.
No great loss to the health system to be rid of these two…
Firefox,
I always find it odd Labor are keen to blame the convoy but never mention Shorten’s “next they’ll be telling you Labor plan to introduce death taxes” zinger in January 2019 as a factor.
Speaking of anti-vaxxers, I’m glad Carlton has settled the issue with Liam Jones before the draft and preseason training commences.
Blue skies ahead !!
Here is an interesting one. A five point plan by Occupy Melbourne to deal with Tony Abbott
https://occupymelbourne.net/2014/05/15/5-step-plan-to-remove-tony-abbott/
“Maybe the Greens could do a convoy of failed Greens leaders?”
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That’s already been done too I’m afraid…