Morgan: 53-47 to Labor

The latest fortnightly federal poll from Morgan, plus updates on looming state by-elections in New South Wales, which could potentially be forfeited by Labor.

The latest fortnightly federal voting intention poll from Roy Morgan finds the series continuing to bounce around within a range of 52.5-47.5 to 54.5-45.5 in favour of Labor, as it has through seven polls since July. The result this time is 53-47, in from 54-46 last fortnight, from primary votes of Coalition 37.5% (up one-and-a-half points), Labor 36% (steady), Greens 11.5% (down one) and One Nation 3% (down half).

The state two-party breakdowns, which range from respectable sub-samples in the case of the large states to a tiny one in the case of Tasmania, have Labor leading 53.5-46.5 in New South Wales (unchanged on the last poll, a swing of about 5.5%), 56-44 in Victoria (unchanged, a swing of about 3%), 55-45 in Western Australia (out from 54.5-45.5, a swing of about 10.5%), 54.5-45.5 in South Australia (in from 58.5-41.5, a swing of around 4%) and 53-47 in Tasmania (out from 52-48, a swing to the Liberals of about 3%). In Queensland, the Coalition is credited with a lead of 55-45 (out from 52.5-47.5, a swing to Labor of about 3.5%). The poll was conducted over the past two weekends from a sample of 2794.

Also of note, particularly in relation to state politics in New South Wales:

• There is now a fourth by-election on the way, following yesterday’s announcement by Holsworthy MP Melanie Gibbons that she will seek preselection for the federal seat of Hughes, where former Liberal incumbent Craig Kelly has defected to Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party. Holsworthy is far the most marginal of the four seats that will be vacated, having been retained by Gibbons in 2019 by 3.2%. However, the Sydney Morning Herald reports that Labor leader Chris Minns has said Labor “needs to consider whether to run in Holsworthy”, having “already suggested to his shadow cabinet that they should not run a candidate in Monaro or Bega”.

• The Sydney Morning Herald further reports that Willoughby mayor Gail Giles-Gidney is the front-runner for Liberal preselection in Gladys Berejiklian’s particularly safe seat of Willoughby. Based on the comments from Chris Minns noted above, it can presumably be taken as read that Labor will not run.

• As for Melanie Gibbons’ hopes for Hughes, both the Sydney Morning Herald and Daily Telegraph today report a view among senior Liberals that she would, in the words of the latter, “face difficulty securing preselection in a vote of party members”.

• If my thoughts on the federal election landscape are of interest to you, I have lately been providing material to CGM Communications’ state-by-state analyses, which have recently covered New South Wales and Victoria, and was interrogated for an election preview that aired on Nine News over the weekend.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  2. It looks like the Morrison government have decided that they need to feed some red meat to the base in the election campaign, lest they be seen as too soft and squishy by their more hard-arsed supporters:

    New push to deport Aboriginal people

    The Morrison government is pushing to secure the right to deport Aboriginal people, while concerns grow over plans to use secret evidence to cancel visas.

    What we know:

    * The federal government is seeking to overturn a 2020 high court ruling that deemed Aboriginal Australians cannot be deported, regardless of whether they are citizens (The Guardian);

    *Two of the judges that supported the 4-3 majority ruling have since retired, with the Morrison government hoping the new appointees will see the matter differently;

    *The Commonwealth has asked that part of a federal court case be removed to the High Court to make the challenge;

    *The case involves Shayne Paul Montgomery’s bid to extend the category of “non-citizen, non-alien” to people customarily adopted as Aboriginal, even if they have no Aboriginal biological descent;

    *The Morrison government will also challenge this aspect, arguing that Montgomery fails the three-part test for Aboriginality despite being recognised by Mununjali elders as such;

    *It comes as concerns grow over proposed legislation allowing people to be deported without knowing the evidence behind the decision (SBS);

    *The laws aim to prevent the disclosure of confidential information provided by police for use in decisions to refuse or cancel visas on character grounds;

    *The Australian Human Rights Commission warned that the proposal runs counter to legal principles “that the state should not be permitted to rely on secret evidence in cases where a person’s liberty is at stake”.


  3. Alan Kohler writes that it is good that Murdoch and the BCA are providing cover for Morrison. He says we should be grateful they have finally seen the light, but it’s hard not to go into the back yard and shout at the moon over their destructive, cynical, stupid, decades of intransigence.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/10/14/net-zero-murdoch-alan-kohler/

    There was a lot discussion yesterday about whether Morrison would be bullshitting or not regarding Climate policy. Alan Kohler has set out some markers to assess whether Morrison is bullshitting or not.

    Alan Kohler:
    A non-policy (by Morrison government) would be an announcement that Australia is already on track for a 40 per cent reduction by 2030 and will easily make net zero by 2050, thanks to technology, plus the actions of the states and Australian businesses, for which the Prime Minister will take full credit. Ta da!

    Oh, and to compensate for these non-efforts, $250 billion will be handed to the National Party to spend in Queensland and New South Wales so a few of them don’t cross the floor and blow up the Morrison majority of one.

    A proper national climate change policy would be legislation that reduces the baselines of large-scale emitters each year so they have to cut emissions or buy more Australian Carbon Credit Units generated by those who do cut.

  4. “Andrews can be held accountable for turning a blind eye to the suspected abuse of public resources by those in Labor’s various factions, including his own. This is especially so because Labor was put on notice by the media, especially the Herald Sun, and the Ombudsman between 2014 and 2018 about similar rorting”
    ________________
    They are slow learners. You wonder how much they are going to have to pay back this time.
    Was 388k for Red Shirts.
    Andrews doesn’t run the tightest ship.

  5. BTW, do you that we have ETS operating in this country, which was opposed by Greens in 2009?According to above Alan Kohler article

    The spot price of ACCUs has already spiked to $30 a tonne with a tripling of trading volume in just three months, so emissions trading has already taken off in this country because so many companies are now trying to pacify their increasingly bolshy (on this subject) shareholders.

  6. “However, the Sydney Morning Herald reports that Labor leader Chris Minns has said Labor “needs to consider whether to run in Holsworthy”, having “already suggested to his shadow cabinet that they should not run a candidate in Monaro or Bega”.
    —————-
    Surely that’s surprising – all of those seats should be in a competitive range, even Monaro based on history. It’s common for the major parties to sit out by-elections in safe seats, so I get why the NSW ALP would not bother with Willoughby. The downside risk – potentially having a poor by-election result – isn’t likely to have long term effects, while the potential to snare a seat in a finely balanced Parliament could have significant benefits. And who knows what might happen during the course of a by-election campaign that could produce a result that wasn’t expected at the outset.

  7. Taylormade,
    Your complaints have zero credibility. I haven’t seen Kevin Andrews or Michael Sukkar pay a price, monetary or otherwise, for being sprung having EOs in their offices working on recruiting new members to branch stack Liberal Party branches in Victoria.

    So you can complain about Dan Andrews and Labor all you want, but please know your hypocrisy shines bright. 🙂


  8. Steven Marshall started the day by swallowing a fly. After that, things just got worse as rogue former Liberal MPs plotted humiliation of a different kind, writes David Penberthy. He says that this midnight coup was one of several concerted acts of guerrilla warfare at North Terrace on Tuesday where former Liberal conservatives also targeted their enemies in the moderate faction by trying to kill their queen.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/political-bastardry-revives-playbook-for-disaster-in-south-australia/news-story/cbf129c0068de59ce7d3b88d80d3c38c

    Cut the nose to spite the face!

  9. If these Morgan results were repeated at a general election, Labor would win 4 seats in each of NSW, Vic and WA and 1 each in SA and Qld. That equates to 83 seats, though ‘the vibe’ tells me that’s way too ambitious. From what I’ve seen so far, Scrote would beat Albo with just his spin and slogans – because that’s all he’s got. Scrote is a substance-free zone. Also, from what I recall of Labor’s previous uninspiring federal campaigns, allow for a leakage of 2% from the start of the campaign. Our spinners just can’t seem to find line-and-length and keep getting belted.
    I’d put money on just 4 seats – Swan, Pearce, Boothby and Chisholm with another 3 maybes – Longman, Hasluck and Higgins. Even if all 7 fall, it gives only a notional majority and doesn’t account for any losses. I have my doubts about Gilmore (2.6%) where Constance’s high profile could also influence next-door Eden-Monaro (0.6%) and for some reason I’m nervous about Lilley (0.8%). I hope I’m wrong, but I reckon a hung parliament beckons.

  10. max

    The main considerations with by elections is the money – contested campaigns in a by election are usually far more expensive than a normal campaign in the same seat.* So the maths might be that it’s better to save the money now so that you have it to spend in the general election.

    *I was involved in a by election once where, at the election, we’d spent $5000 on the campaign. The by election cost $250k. It was a very important one, however, as it made the Labor government less dependant on cross benchers.

  11. Could someone remind me: Was the National Plan for all states to open up at the same time when they reached 70 and 80% vaxxed, or was it intended as a race with winners and losers?

  12. Yep. After nick McKenzie’s piece today.

    THE AGE has incredibly cancelled its own suggestions Dan Andrews is corrupt and now says it’s misguided to suggest Andrews has questions to answer. The about-face follows false reports in The Age which triggered hysterical calls by media & opposition for Andrews to quit. #auspol


  13. Paul Starick says Premier Steven Marshall’s leadership is firmly under the microscope after a rash of defections and a late-night coup culminating in Liberal Party turncoat Dan Cregan being elevated to the speaker’s job with support from Labor and a crossbench which has been swelling in size.
    https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/paul-starick-analysis-steven-marshall-is-enduring-his-worst-nightmare-as-liberal-leader/news-story/e0bf6ff76932275057fd1a0f4b3e5571

    Can we get some feedback/insight by resident SA PBers on this topic?

  14. Lizzie

    Victoria is following the road map of when state reaches 70 and 80 percent vaccinated of over 16 yo.

    It is looking like Victoria will reach targets almost a week or two earlier.
    Hence restrictions will be lifted sooner.

  15. I think the question for SA is, will Marshall last until the election due next year?

    Also, the question for SA voters is then, do they want to vote again for a Liberal Party that has been taken over by the hard line Conservatives?

  16. Taylormade says:
    Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 8:13 am
    “Andrews can be held accountable for turning a blind eye to the suspected abuse of public resources by those in Labor’s various factions, including his own. This is especially so because Labor was put on notice by the media, especially the Herald Sun, and the Ombudsman between 2014 and 2018 about similar rorting.
    ——————————-
    I agree with that comment by Nick McKenzie broadly, although I don’t think Andrews or anyone else with a half a brain has any good reason to take any notice of the Herald Sun. He might as well take his riding instructions from the Mobster with the Lobster.

    Maybe Andrews “turned a blind eye”. I’m not clear that has been shown. But as leader, he and other senior ALP figures are accountable at the least for weak as piss governance. They know the risk of this sort of rorting. They have a responsibility to have processes in place to stop it happening and make sure those processes are working.

    They should expect that this failure will have political consequences. People who don’t want Matthew Guy to be Premier (I get that you might want that Taylormade which is your right) are entitled to sheet responsibility for that to Andrews and the leaders of the Victorian ALP.

  17. So the 53/47 maintains for another poll

    If you look at the Budget papers you will see that Frydenberg says the economic recovery plan is consistent with the government’s core values of lower taxes and containing the size of government, guaranteeing the provision of essential services and ensuring budget and balance sheet discipline

    I would present this is contradictory and abject nonsense

    Confirmed by the governments media attack dog, this morning 9 Entertainment carrying a headline “What needs to be done to fix the tax system” citing the nation’s “top economists”

    So death duties, lifting the GST and more taxes on housing (to quote the headline)

    The question is how is a government with this agenda elected?

    When it goes to every election with tax cuts for the “lifters “ (so business and high net worth individuals) whilst attacking “leaners”?

    And offers other tax measures to this same “lifters”cohort

    And Negative Gearing, Franking Credits when you remit no tax as an individual, Trust arrangements and the raft of other tax advantage arrangements the accounting industry ferret out including using offshore arrangements (then including JOBkeeper) maintain and are increased

    This may not be consumer politics

    Including because of media bias

    But where and when does the rubber hit the ground and the majority of voters, raising their families and paying off their mortgages and consumer loans in an enduring flat wages environment say enough is enough?

    When the GST increases?

    When your home, finally free of mortgage, is taxed?

    When death duties are reintroduced?

    The RBA’s bond buying to maintain liquidity in financial markets maintains, supporting the Cash Rate and in the absence of Federal government infrastructure spending (actual spending, not the promise in 10 years time whilst imploring the States to spend on infrastructure, so abdicating (apart from the rorts of sport and car park projects, most abandoned)

    Interest rates will increase at some stage, and no doubt be Labor’s fault

    Noting the last increases were in 2007 due to inflation introduced by the transmission of the proceeds of the Mining Boom Phase 1 to tax cuts (unless you got “a sandwich a week” by Vanstone’s description of the inequity of those tax cuts)

    Media and vested interest get in the way of this narrative

    Except we all live – and we have families

    So we are all impacted

    As with this virus

    So what impact does this have on my narrative of the focus for the next election?

    Is it (another) reason for “entrenched” at 53/47 or better?

    So ideological bias – and stale ideological bias?

  18. Can we get some feedback/insight by resident SA PBers on this topic?
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    Ven
    I think the SA Liberals are going through the same problems as have other states with the push for power and influence by very “conservative” Christian members who have been worming their way into party ranks.

  19. Morning all. Thanks for the roundup BK. The coalition maneuvering over climate policy is indeed pathetic, with Murdoch in lockstep justifying them. At this point Newscorp employees occupations should be listed as “Liberal Party staffer”.

    I have long thought that there is a coward hiding inside most bullies. In my view Peter Dutton is a textbook example of the type. He is happy to stop two Sri Lankan born schoolgirls having a normal life. This “tough” act is obviously to appeal to the bigoted anti-immigration crowd. But when it comes to stopping an actual threat to Australia’s sovereignty and resources, he and his bloated Border Force are missing in action.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-14/illegal-fishing-boat-influx-off-australian-mainland/100530120

  20. Ven at 8:17 am
    The argey bargey re ETS was about price. At the time the price had plummeted but expectations were that this was temporary. The Greens were calling for $30 a ton when the then current price was about $12(?)

  21. zoomster says:
    Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 8:25 am
    max

    The main considerations with by elections is the money – contested campaigns in a by election are usually far more expensive than a normal campaign in the same seat.* So the maths might be that it’s better to save the money now so that you have it to spend in the general election.

    *I was involved in a by election once where, at the election, we’d spent $5000 on the campaign. The by election cost $250k. It was a very important one, however, as it made the Labor government less dependant on cross benchers.
    ———
    Thanks Zoomster – yes that’s a likely explanation. Still as far as I recall, it’s unusual not to contest by-elections in seats that, on paper, appear to be in the realistically winnable range on a good day. And given the fine balance in the NSW Parliament, I wonder if these by-elections mightn’t be pretty strategic too – if not, as critical as the one you mentioned in Victoria. An additional seat for the ALP in the NSW Lower House would be pretty handy right now I imagine. However of course the NSW leadership will have a better take on the risks and benefits than anyone else. I just thought it was a surprising approach in historical terms.

  22. Lizzie

    That was my understanding. That the states would move together.

    Fingers crossed re my relatives. From what I have been told, things can appear stable and turn for the worse very quickly.

  23. C@tmommasays:
    Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 8:30 am
    I think the question for SA is, will Marshall last until the election due next year?

    Also, the question for SA voters is then, do they want to vote again for a Liberal Party that has been taken over by the hard line Conservatives?

    After 16 years of the ALP SA was on every measure health, education, employment, and of course the economy dead last on the Australian mainland beaten only by Tasmania…what was that 20 ALP with a green alliance for a couple of years. So much for socialists utopias. Even with the libs requiring over 53 odd % of the vote to win South Australians may give the Libs another go,

  24. BK/Ven

    This is purely anecdotal from one friend, but the Paradise church based far right clique have not given up their efforts to infiltrate the Liberal Party. The moderates seized power in the SA Liberals after the expense rorters were turfed in 2019. But their opponents have been regrouping to regain power since.

    I assume the fundy right element in SA has given up on Cory Bernardi as a failed vehicle for their ambitions and are trying to dominate the Liberal Party itself, as in other states.

  25. Lizzie

    “Phases triggered in a jurisdiction when the average vaccination rates across the nation have reached the threshold and that rate is achieved in a jurisdiction expressed as a
    percentage of the eligible population (16+), based on the scientific modelling conducted for the COVID-19 Risk Analysis and Response Task Force”.

    I suppose that means we all wait until Cth gets to 70% DD 16+ which will be next week and that then only states/territories who have passed the mark (ACT, Tas, NSW and probably Vic) can act. It does, reading further, appear discretionary

    https://www.pm.gov.au/sites/default/files/media/national-plan-060821_0.pdf

  26. Tony Windsor
    @TonyHWindsor
    ·
    51m
    If Prime Minister @ScottMorrisonMP was serious about the Glasgow conference he would use the Parliament…put his “plan” to the Parliament & bypass the Nationals with vote in both Houses. Morrison is not serious, he is using the Nats as a shield to do nothing. Leaders bootlace!

    I agree. Scotty could no more bring himself to work together with anyone else than he could ever show real leadership.


  27. porotisays:
    Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 8:40 am
    Ven at 8:17 am
    The argey bargey re ETS was about price. At the time the price had plummeted but expectations were that this was temporary. The Greens were calling for $30 a ton when the then current price was about $12(?)

    poroti
    According to Kohler, the current ETS price is $30. So Greens wish is granted. I still believe Greens were wrong in opposing that, which had a domino effect on many other political issues that resulted in Australia paying a very high price regards to Climate policy. And Australia is poorer for the path we have taken. The Green supporters bang on about what a great policy they devised with Gillard government. Where is that policy now. Thrown in the dustbin of history.

  28. Why would Labor not run in Holsworthy?
    We’ve seen swings of close to 30% in by-elections against long term dodgy governments.
    The seat is in south west Sydney. Even Monaro might be worth a shot.
    The other 2 definitely big misses.

  29. “ After 16 years of the ALP SA was on every measure health, education, employment, and of course the economy dead last on the Australian mainland beaten only by Tasmania…”

    This is mostly false and only partially true for economic growth. SA has lower population growth than other States and so lots of economic growth measures look bad. But per capita figures are much better.

    SA comparative performance improved under Weatherall. Employment and investment were ahead of WA and Qld when the 2017 election was held. Housing affordability was excellent. Education performance was greatly improved (second for school retention) and health was average.
    https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1819/SSB-1718#_Toc527982166

    By comparison when the Liberals left office in 2001 the State was dead last in most measures and stuck with the aftermath of the disastrous Brown/Olsen public asset sell-offs.

  30. And just to add in regard media and bias

    I terminated my subscription to 9 Entertainment

    The reason was that contributions such as I have added to this site are censored by the moderators

    And they attempt to present that they are “independent”

    They are Coalition propaganda outlets, absent some token contributors (who are not afforded the headlines)

  31. Observer @ #27 Thursday, October 14th, 2021 – 8:34 am

    So the 53/47 maintains for another poll

    If you look at the Budget papers you will see that Frydenberg says the economic recovery plan is consistent with the government’s core values of lower taxes and containing the size of government, guaranteeing the provision of essential services and ensuring budget and balance sheet discipline

    I would present this is contradictory and abject nonsense

    Confirmed by the governments media attack dog, this morning 9 Entertainment carrying a headline “What needs to be done to fix the tax system” citing the nation’s “top economists”

    So death duties, lifting the GST and more taxes on housing (to quote the headline)

    The question is how is a government with this agenda elected?

    When it goes to every election with tax cuts for the “lifters “ (so business and high net worth individuals) whilst attacking “leaners”?

    And offers other tax measures to this same “lifters”cohort

    And Negative Gearing, Franking Credits when you remit no tax as an individual, Trust arrangements and the raft of other tax advantage arrangements the accounting industry ferret out including using offshore arrangements (then including JOBkeeper) maintain and are increased

    This may not be consumer politics

    Including because of media bias

    But where and when does the rubber hit the ground and the majority of voters, raising their families and paying off their mortgages and consumer loans in an enduring flat wages environment say enough is enough?

    When the GST increases?

    When your home, finally free of mortgage, is taxed?

    When death duties are reintroduced?

    The RBA’s bond buying to maintain liquidity in financial markets maintains, supporting the Cash Rate and in the absence of Federal government infrastructure spending (actual spending, not the promise in 10 years time whilst imploring the States to spend on infrastructure, so abdicating (apart from the rorts of sport and car park projects, most abandoned)

    Interest rates will increase at some stage, and no doubt be Labor’s fault

    Noting the last increases were in 2007 due to inflation introduced by the transmission of the proceeds of the Mining Boom Phase 1 to tax cuts (unless you got “a sandwich a week” by Vanstone’s description of the inequity of those tax cuts)

    Media and vested interest get in the way of this narrative

    Except we all live – and we have families

    So we are all impacted

    As with this virus

    So what impact does this have on my narrative of the focus for the next election?

    Is it (another) reason for “entrenched” at 53/47 or better?

    So ideological bias – and stale ideological bias?

    ‘Interest rates will increase at some stage, and no doubt be Labor’s fault’
    For it to be Labor’s ‘fault’ they’d at least need to be in government to cop any blame.
    They’re pretty safe in that regard for quite some time I reckon.

  32. The obvious question for SA voters is, if they vote Liberal who will be premier?

    Second question will be, will there be anything left to sell off? And will the promised Federal funds for submarine construction ever show up? Chris Pyne’s 2016 promises were not worth much.

  33. Drongo:

    Lilley should be a relative easy ALP retain, IMO. Anika Wells is a very active local member, she will have the sophomore surge on her side, and I’d be surprised if we don’t see decent swings to Labor across Brisbane in the next election.

    Plus the LNP candidate this time around looks like he’s about 16. Probably should have stuck with that old tradie with the amazing hands.

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