The Australian today brings us the latest set of breakdowns from three months’ accumulation of Newspoll results, and the second to be published since its ambit was extended beyond state, age and gender to education, income, language and religion. Highlights:
• Labor is credited with a lead of 51-49 in New South Wales, compared with 50-50 in the April-June quarter and 51.8-48.2 to the Coalition at the election, and its lead in Victoria is out to 56-44, compared with 55-45 and 53.1-46.9. Once again though, Queensland is Labor’s sticking point, with the Coalition lead recorded at 59-41, compared with 56-44 last quarter and 58.4-41.6 at the election. The Coalition leads 54-46 in Western Australia, compared with 55-45 last quarter and 55.6-44.4 at the election, and is now at level pegging in South Australia, compared with 53-47 to Labor last poll and 50.7-49.3 to Labor at the election.
• The Coalition leads 53-47 among men and trails 51-49 among women, compared with 52-48 to the Coalition among men and 52-48 to Labor among women last quarter.
• The age effect is a little more modest in the latest poll, with Labor leading 58-42 among the 18-34s and 53-47 among the 35-49s, respectively compared with 62-38 and 52-48 last quarter. The Coalition leads 54-46 among the 50-64s and 63-37 among the 65-plus, compared with 53-47 and 62-38 last quarter.
• Whereas the result was a perfect 50-50 among each of the three education cohorts last time, this time the Coalition leads 53-47 among those with no tertiary qualifications and 51-49 among those with TAFE and technical qualifications, while Labor leads 52-48 among those with university degrees.
• The last poll has 50-50 splits among the three lowest income cohorts, whereas the Coalition leads 57-43 among those with household incomes of $150,000 or higher. Last quarter, it was 50-50 among those on $50,000 or lower, 52-48 to the Labor among those on $50,000 to $100,000, 52-48 to the Coalition on those from $100,000 to $150,000, and 53-47 to the Coalition on $150,000 and higher.
• The Coalition leads 52-48 among those who speak only English at home, out from 51-49, and Labor leads 56-44 among non-English speakers, in from 57-43.
• The Coalition leads 60-40 among Christians, out from 58-42, and Labor leads 57-43 among those with no religion, in from 58-42.
The full results can be viewed here, I think without a paywall. The results are compiled from YouGov’s Newspoll surveys from June 3 to August 8, with a combined sample of 6392.
Briefly
To borrow from GG. Groundhog comment from you.
Groundhog polling.
What surprises me is no-one has noticed china is doing its best to reduce the import of luxury goods. Perhaps, just perhaps the China economy is slowing, in no small part due to the tariff war and they are trying to do something about outgoing foreign capital.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/18/there-could-be-more-to-this-wine-war-than-just-another-trade-stoush-with-china
The Newspoll numbers suggest that almost nothing has changed in the minds of voters since the election. That’s a good result for Labor, considering the rally-to-the-flag reflexes of voters during times of threat.
Very wisely, Labor has eschewed the temptations to politicise the pandemic response. Had they not done this, their support would be in the 20s.
Re Rupert and the future of News Corporation – Lachlan seems quite gung ho to take over from Rupert and maintain the company and its obnoxious output.
One thing that might thwart him is the less than healthy financial situation that the company is in. In the end, it comes down to money or the lack thereof.
Quasar
I also have a lung problem and am relying on distancing and sanitisers as well.
guytaur
I think the Green behavior at the last election was a step to far. It has given Labor plenty of examples to highlight there destructive behavior. To highlight the Liberal/Green wedge.
Scotty from Marketing justs like alluding to the international prestige of Oxford.
Oxford da one.
“The Australian Government has signed an agreement with AstraZeneca to secure Oxford University’s COVID-19 vaccine”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-18/australia-locks-in-oxford-astrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccine-deal/12571454
And guytaur
If the greens want respect they would not invade Labor conferences and they would not make a difficult situation worse by running gas guzzler convoys to Queensland and then assure all they will force Labor to destroy their jobs.
The Green have shat in their own nests. They have created their own irrelevance. Yes they can keep Labor out of power, but they sure as hell can’t advance any of the policies they claim to support.
Politicisation of the pandemic response would lead to lower rates of compliance with mask-wearing, personal hygiene practices and social distancing, higher rates of transmission, more illness and higher mortality. We can see this in the US. We can see incipient versions of it here too. Labor have chosen very correctly to put the well-being of the community ahead of the instinct to go the partisan throat. There is more at stake than scoring points. Much more. Beyond this, of course, we do not yet know for how long the pandemic will last, nor the turns it will take. This is a time for caution, for watching, for learning and for mutual support and encouragement in the context of a dangerous and invisible menace.
I think guytaur has well and truly jumped the shark this morning. He’s dissing Bernie Sanders! 😆
The Greens are Thatcherite in their exploitation of coal workers and their communities. They echo Hughes, Lyons and Santamaria in their hostility to Labor. They are the political allies of ON and the LNP. They are not on the list of the friends of working people, whom they despise and seek to exclude from power.
The Australian vaccine may prove to be the best. Why doesn’t he not support Australian science? How deep is the religious nuf nuf desire to destroy Australian academia run?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzvqw2dsmjs
lizzie @ #78 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 7:02 am
A riot might be the least of what his comments incite. Anything up to and including civil war might be more accurate.
Remember, a lot of these rubes are armed to the teeth with military grade weapons.
Non
There is a vast difference between political point scoring and holding a government to account for genuine failures/lapses/errors. Especially when they can and do mean people are dying and losing their livelihood.Even the politically disengaged would ‘spot the difference’ .
Have to give Rowland points for this question.
Non says:
Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 10:09 am
Politicisation of the pandemic response would lead to lower rates of compliance with mask-wearing, personal hygiene practices and social distancing, higher rates of transmission, more illness and higher mortality.
We can see it in Victoria, the Liberal yap yap and the Press’s desire to get Andrews has not done that much damage to Andrews but it has provided the mad right with an excuse not the listen to his message. Wear you bloody mask, social distance, stay at home.
They live to whinge. Nothing is ever good enough for them.
The Right realises this and so runs a media campaign that encourages discontent and protest. Or, if they can’t get that, ennui and nihilism.
It keeps the whingers thinking that, one day… over the rainbow…
“I think guytaur has well and truly jumped the shark this morning. He’s dissing Bernie Sanders! ”
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I’m pretty sure he was being sarcastic and pointing out the reality that Sanders is not the radical that the establishment media make him out to be. The fact he is continuing to work towards removing Trump is proving that you were all wrong about him from the very beginning. Not that we didn’t know that already, considering how he went out of his way to endorse Clinton last time even after the Dems had rigged the thing in her favour. Even after the establishment’s failure last time he is still doing everything he can and is using his position of great influence to get rid of Trump. Bernie is a class act and is doing the right thing for someone in his position.
Non @ #144 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 9:55 am
Nor does Official Labor defend the Greens from over-the-top government-led attacks likening Greens to terrorists. It’s a free kick to attack the Coalition and make the government look hysterical and out of touch, and to counter the erosion of votes from the left. Not taking it just suggests to voters that the Coalition’s talking-points are correct and reasonable.
You miss 100% of the free kicks you don’t take.
It’s hardly “exploitation” to point out that an unsustainable, environmentally destructive industry is unsustainable and environmentally destructive. Nor does it have anything personal to do with workers or their communities. The science is what it is. Can’t live head-in-the-sand because science leaves some dead-end career paths. Was shuttering the asbestos industry exploitative?
D P
I suppose I didn’t want to float “civil war” into the ether in case it encouraged it. Too awful to contemplate. Are fellow Americans the enemy that they have been waiting for with their guns and their stocks of food?
Frednk
At least we are experiencing wintry conditions today. Helps with keeping people at home here in Melbourne town.
My latest obsession is that hands should be sanitised or three minute washed after a mask has been removed and disposed of, to laundry or bin. That a mask is easy on easy off doesn’t mean it cant or wont be contaminated when it’s on (droplets soil hand from a counter and then you serially adjust your mask). Whatever is on your hands will end up in your mouth, nose, eyes.
Doffing PPE in hospital is a serious risk time, needs to be done carefully and according to protocol, and best performed in front of an observer/monitor. The scale is different, but the principle applies.
Bushfire Bill @ #120 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 7:32 am
Great news. Especially since every home has a 3d printer. .
https://twitter.com/MehreenFaruqi/status/1295850028351684608
lizzie, civil war pops up frequently in conversation in this house.
The 7am podcast had a good summary of the Ruby Princess debacle.
Platforming Colin Powell at the DNC convention is insanely stupid, the Republicans have the ‘I love war criminals’ vote locked down and it will rightly infuriate everyone to the left of centre, hell it should infuriate everyone to the left of center-right.
Fair call. What shit descriptor is this.
Bill Shorten says aged care is a Federal Government responsibility. Is he correct?
RMIT ABC Fact Check
Posted4 days ago, updated4 days ago
Bill Shorten’s claim is a fair call
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/12553808?__twitter_impression=true
Simon Katich @ #129 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 7:37 am
Sanders has already spoken. The speech he gave was a brilliant entree to Michelle Obama’s main course.
I posted a link to it yesterday, but here it is again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhl9QoXAB34
A long time back I read an article by a former Happy Clapper who knowing about Happy Clapping was worried about Scrott becoming PM. A comment in reply mentioned that Scrott showed signs of being a narcissist. Scrott’s latest “Not my responsibility” brought the article to mind.
One of the traits mentioned back then,this before the fires and not holding the hose mate etc, was a refusal to be personally accountable for anything. Well a quick Google of narcissist and by golly it sounds familiar now.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/the-legacy-distorted-love/201308/narcissists-are-not-accountable
WeWantPaul @ #173 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 10:28 am
I don’t disagree. I despise his piss-weak capitulation, and the mobile nuclear launcher ice cream van embarrassment. There must be some cohort they expect him to appeal to, and hope the infuriated left will not be assuaged of their fury, and certainly remain motivated to turn out and vote Joe.
Victoria @ #174 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 10:29 am
Scrooter has already done his routine so it’s to late now.
Scrooter pops into a phone box and comes out as Apology Man and problems disappear. Robodebt, Hawaii, Bushfire response, Aged Cared debacle…all gone. Look up in the sky…..
It’s A P O L O G Y M A N …(and his trusty sidekick Alboboy)
Move on.
Quelle surprise
DropletFace with medical maskQueen Victoria
@Vic_Rollison
Randomised trial results are starting to trickle in. So far I’m seeing one obvious person missing from stories about Sydney hotel quarantine breach: the NSW Premier. Nowhere to be seen in this article. Quite different from ANDREWS HAS QUESTIONS TO ANSWER.
Hopes Sydney security guard COVID-19 case doesn’t lead to outbreak
9news.com.au
Danama Papers @ #175 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 10:31 am
I’ve watched it twice already. It gets better and betterer.
I have two.
However, we’re Android, not Apple, and the app is iPhone compatible only.
poroti @ #176 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 10:32 am
Sounds like a job for ……….APOLOGY MAN!
Poroti
Morrison is a mini trump. What a time to have shit leaders in charge during a frickin pandemic. Sigh….
poroti @ #176 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 10:32 am
Trump is the narcissist’s dream role model. Then there’s my mother-in-law.
But we knew that already……
Christopher Redfern
@Christo21102016
Replying to
@Vic_Rollison
and
@marxdeane
It’s not actually about the virus or health Issues, it never was. It’s about the LNP using the virus as a political weapon to hound Labor out of office in Qld and Vic.
A campaign coordinated by the LNP and delivered by the drones of the Murdoch, Stokes and Costello media cabal.
9:20 AM · Aug 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
ItzaDream @ #184 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 8:36 am
Choices have consequences! 🙂
Hi Barney
Hope you get your visa arrangements sorted to your satisfaction.
This shit show hasnt helped at all during this time.
Sheesh. What a time for people to become brainwashed so easily. Even Daniel Andrews Facebook page is getting comments from the qanon crowd.
Ewart Dave Trumpet
@davidbewart
QAnon Facebook groups swelled by nearly 600% from March through July, to about 40,000 from about 6,000.
1:46 AM · Aug 19, 2020·Twitter for Android
lizzie
Re that about the Oxford vaccine- “Bugger !” Up until now the articles I’d read mentioning it made it sound an excellent prospect. 🙁
On the Oxford vaccine, as Norman Swan pointed out yesterday, Australia is crowing that we are signing up after at least five other countries have already done so (UK, USA, Canada plus…?), and the first half billion doses are already spoken for. We are well down the queue.
ItzaDream @ #188 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 8:42 am
Cheers, Itza.
It’s not a problem, they’ve got an agent doing the running around, so we’re just waiting on the Immigration to get their shit together. Just means I’m still working from home for half the week.
One shitty thing with the travel restrictions, is that I miss out on my annual free trip to Singapore, so no chance to stock up on Vegemite or get my annual BBQ Shape fix. 🙁
All those who jumped on me.
Great to see you don’t understand “” around a word.
This on the day I tell you get the Mark Latham type voters.
Not someone I support. All you have done is show how really partisan you are. You have shown why your demonisation continues division to the benefit of the LNP.
Labor culture. Experts at being the loyal opposition. At least from the partisans on this blog.
Socrates @ #184 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 10:48 am
Socrates @ #184 Wednesday, August 19th, 2020 – 10:48 am
Sounds like a job for……..APOLOGY MAN!!
Quite right. My apologies.