For all that our world may have changed over the past three weeks, Newspoll has not: The Australian reports the latest result has Labor’s lead steady at 51-49. There has, however, been primary vote movement in favour of the major parties, with both up by two points: the Coalition to 40%, Labor to 36%. The Greens are down one to 12%, One Nation unchanged on 4% and others down three to 8%.
As with Essential Research, Scott Morrison has recovered somewhat from his post-bushfire slump, with his approval rating up three to 41% and disapproval down five to 53%. He now holds a 42-38 lead over Anthony Albanese as preferred prime minister, who led 41-40 last time. Albanese’s net rating has also improved, his approval rating up one to 40% (The Australian report says down three, but I believe it has its wires crossed from the preferred prime minister movement) and disapproval down four to 40%.
In other findings, 75% support the government’s decision to abandon a budget surplus in favour of economic stimulus; 51% believe the federal government has managed preparedness for the crisis well; 66% are satisfied with federal and state government efforts to inform the public about the virus; but only 47% feel the same way about managing its economic impact.
UPDATE: The Australian’s reportage rather downplays the fact, but the poll found only 33% were satisfied with the economic response of governments (the question emphasised “both federal and state”) to the coronavirus outbreak, with 47% dissatisfied. The 75% rating in favour of stimulus did not relate specifically to the government’s policy, but to the general notion that “the Morrison government should provide a stimulus package to safeguard the economy”, with only 14% favouring the alternative option that it “should prioritise its promise to deliver a budget surplus”.
For the other questions, 76% of respondents were worried about the economic impact of the outbreak, versus only 20% for confident; 51% were worried, and 47% confident, about the preparedness of the public health system, for which 51% were satisified with the federal and state government response and 33% dissatisfied; and 63% were confident, and 35% worried, about “the amount of information available to Australians about how to protect themselves”, for which 65% were satisfied and 28% dissatisfied with the federal and state government response.
The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1501.
CC
That same study has figures for mild/severe/critical which don’t seem to be replicated here as best we know.
[Around 20% of cases require hospitalization, 5% of cases require the Intensive Care Unit (ICU), and around 2.5% require very intensive help, with items such as ventilators or ECMO (extra-corporeal oxygenation).]
At what point statistically do we get reliable estimates on these classifications?
Cud Chewer @ #1345 Tuesday, March 17th, 2020 – 4:34 pm
Yep. I tell myself this is an analysis of past performance and not a predictor, but …
https://www.covid19data.com.au/
Graphs say that the virus has gone into uncontained community spread (largely invisible to testing) nearly two weeks ago.
Johnson the Bloviator, told by scientists that he is going to kill 25o,000 Brits, belatedly changes his mind on herd immunity.
Out.Of.His.Depth.
Cud Chewer
But a pro-active minister would enquire if a treatment was even possible.
Makes me wonder about Lib priorities.
C Ch
Makes the idea of banning travel from the US look like a no brainer.
Cud Chewer @ #1353 Tuesday, March 17th, 2020 – 4:41 pm
And steepened about a week after that, which is roughly when you can see an uptick on the simple plots I’m doing. (Looking at the numbers is like probing a sore tooth.)
This week I received a national award. It relates to a small space of technical and artistic excellence.
But, truth to tell, it was as gall and wormwood to the taste.
The Virus is certainly changing perspectives very, very quickly.
BW
I would like to hear more detail.
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Pegasus @ #1328 Tuesday, March 17th, 2020 – 5:09 pm
The Greens always turn a reasonable compromise in to a whinge for perfection.
Pegasus @ #1346 Tuesday, March 17th, 2020 – 5:36 pm
Latest polls show a swing back to the major parties. So, the whole premise of this rant is incorrect and outdated.
Boerwar says:
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 5:48 pm
This week I received a national award. It relates to a small space of technical and artistic excellence.
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Was it for list making?
Not much good to me if I’m dead.
Economies can be rebuilt. But if it’s your only frame of reference I guess the economy comes first.
lizzie @ #1360 Tuesday, March 17th, 2020 – 5:53 pm
It also means they are already up to their armpits in ‘requests’ for bailouts from business ‘mates’ everywhere.
Yesterday we saw the utter arrogance and sense of entitlement from that ARL bloke – and thats the tip of the iceberg.
The profits have already been privatised (and tax avoided) now the brown stuff is hitting the fan the tune to socialise the losses and protect the wealthy and the ‘connected’ will be broadcast.
One way crony so called capitalism on show.
Adam Smith will be rolling in his grave – yet again.
Just imagine the venom from the ‘mates’ who miss out.
Private health insurance would make zero difference to your chance of being ventilated.
Boerwar @ #1354 Tuesday, March 17th, 2020 – 5:42 pm
Pretty much the approach also still being taken by morrison – he just isn’t saying so quite clearly and no reason to believe he has or will change his mind.
Its also the “cheapest” option. Particularly as it relates to the poor who generally haven’t vote LNP.
Boerwar
He only changed his mind when it was pointed out that the disease was particularly keen on killing the strongest pro Brexit ‘demographic’
France –
Latest update:From midday 17 March, all travel to the EU and Schengen Area is banned for 30 days. If you’re in France and wish to leave, be aware commercial flights are increasingly limited.
If you decide to return to Australia, we recommend you do so by commercial means as soon as possible.
Also from midday 17 March, all non-essential movement outdoors is prohibited for 15 days across France.
Visits to the supermarket, to seek medical assistance, commutes to and from work and other essential movement are excluded, but you’re strongly urged to keep these to a minimum.
Non-essential public venues, including restaurants, cafes, cinemas and discos are closed indefinitely. Travel to certain areas within France is limited and large events are banned. Australians in France requiring emergency medical assistance should dial 15 for COVID-19-related assistance. Follow the advice of local authorities.
https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations/europe/france
This is starting to look like World War 2, the great Depression and Spanish Flu all wrapped together.
Steps that should be taken and taken very quickly –
– Rationing – This will stop the panic buying and control inflation – Not all items but Meat, Eggs, Toilet Paper etc. which people are stockpiling. And I mean ration books – not limits in shops. It took a few weeks to put in place in 1940, surely we can do better now.
– End the black market – If it is not already happening, it will be – People will be flogging groceries for inflated prices. This kind of profiteering is unconscionable. And if they stop people scalping tickets on Gumtree, they can do this.
Call up the community groups – We have groups that will be able to support the health network – St John Ambulance can help with the sick. Other groups can help support relatives etc. and ensure that food and supplies are making it to everyone.
New Adrian Beaumont post on the US and Israel:
https://www.pollbludger.net/2020/03/17/us-general-election-biden-vs-trump/
Wage subsidies to business to support their employees is all good and well for permanent full and part time staff.
What about those businesses in sectors such as tourism, hospitality and arts/ music for example. Sectors of the economy that rely overwhelmingly on casual labor. Why would a business go through the hassle of applying for wage subsidies to keep on casuals if they have no customers and no need for staff and it is far easier to give them the flick knowing full well that when business picks up again they will have a huge pool of ready and willing casuals to tap into ?
The government needs to recognise that giving money directly to tourism, hospitality etc businesses will do nothing to help workers in those industries survive over coming months.
If a business has no trade , no customers and mainly casual staff guess what will be the first ongoing “ cost” to be thrown overboard ?
Casual workers need direct income support and if not provided will be catastrophic for the social and economic well-being of Australia.
‘poroti says:
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 6:11 pm
Boerwar
Johnson the Bloviator, told by scientists that he is going to kill 25o,000 Brits, belatedly changes his mind on herd immunity.
Out.Of.His.Depth,
He only changed his mind when it was pointed out that the disease was particularly keen on killing the strongest pro Brexit ‘demographic’’
haha
European Union talking of a 30 day closure of European borders.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18309764.coronavirus-proposed-30-day-shut-non-essential-eu-travel/
Nick Xenophon representing the Army whistleblower is probably a good thing. He’s a wily bastard who can also drum up a feelgood crusade. So long as he doesn’t use it to try to restart his political career.
Listening to the panel on the Drum seems like there is no help, guidance or plan for all the people loosing or are going to loose their jobs.
Lousy LNP gov.
The email from Coles indicated this would happen but my 2 home delivery orders have been cancelled.
Means I as the carer in a pensioner couple will have to leave home by 6:30am on Friday . They had better have stock on the shelves of what I want.
I contacted them earlier today and the operator indicated they would review my case.
I have been a weekly orderer for 4 years or more.
My daughter was just sent home last night 3 hours early from her bar job in entertainment. Bands booked just didn’t show up. She has no idea what’s next, just as well she doesn’t pay rent.
It seems to me that the essential economic problem is insoluble: you can’t create an equivalent pretend economy to replace the real economy while the real economy takes some time off because of the Virus.
mh
The GFC unemployment rate got to 6%. In my guess, the CV unemployment rate is going to go way beyond that.
bw
I guess the question is can what remains of the economy support those with nothing.
“CANBERRA, Tuesday:
An elderly ACT man was arrested today in a Belconnen shopping mall. He is being questioned by police regarding numerous reports that he had been seen loitering outside public lavatories ‘looking for automatic doors’…”
Fair few Northern Hemisphere skiers returning to Oz bringing back coronavirus
bw
Yep, totally agree that it’s starting to look really bad.
Sounds like a local version of MAGA.
We’re hearing an awful lot from Scott Gunner Morrison. He’s gunna do this and gunna do that but the main thing he’s doing is producing bovine manure.
BB
haha
Morrison has yet to abandon Kirribilli and flee to the ACT to get away from Berejiklian’s germfest.
I don’t live near Belconnen mall but the other big shopping centres have been rebuilding the toilets to have no door and a winding passage so people can’t see inside. That helps with not having to touch a door handle on the way out.
When you consider the unemployment rate plus underemployment rate is already around 13% plus even before the shit hits the fan the consequences of poorly directed stimulus on the social and economic well-being of Australia will be huge.
Trickle up economics should be the new black but sadly I do not hold much hope.
Katharine Murphy
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The Labor senators Tony Sheldon and Jenny McAllister are now self-isolating after having come into contact with Andrew Bragg at the parliamentary committee hearing on March 9. Rex Patrick is doing the same #auspol #COVIDー19
This CEO of the Wayside Chapel on The Drum is a seriously handsome young bloke.
Nobel infectious diseases laureate, Professor Doherty, now on The Drum. This is an expert I’m happy to listen to.
He speaks clearly and concisely. No techno-babble.
Probably no street parade and keys to the city presentation
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28913589/new-south-wales-named-sheffield-shield-winners-final-cancelled
The Philippines Did It. Now Smaller Markets May Follow Shutdown
In their war against the coronavirus and foreigners’ exodus, smaller markets might follow the Philippines in shutting down their bourses, market participants say.
The nation’s move to close its $188 billion equity market until Thursday has already been followed by Sri Lanka. In both cases, the reason given for the closure is to help contain the spread of the coronavirus, which has already infected more than 174,000 globally and killed 7,000.
Shutting markets during times of crisis is extremely rare but not without precedents. America’s stock market closed for almost a week after the 9/11 terrorist attacks in 2001, while Hong Kong halted trading in the wake of the Black Monday crash in 1987. Greece shut its stock market for about five weeks in 2015.
“There have to be plans similar in nature by regional markets” where new infections are gathering pace, said Sameer Kalra, founder of Target Investing in Mumbai. “The move is good to contain the virus spread since exchange buildings are hugely populated areas, but it may put a lot of jobs at risk.”
https://www.bloomberg.com//news/articles/2020-03-17/the-philippines-did-it-now-smaller-markets-may-follow-shutdown?srnd=markets-vp
A news item a few days ago said he was coming to Canberra but unsure whether to leave the wife and kids in Sydney. He must assume they are more resistant to coronavirus than himself.
President Donald Trump for the first time on his Twitter feed used the phrase “Chinese Virus,” stepping up friction between the world’s two biggest economies as each tries to deflect blame for a deadly pandemic.
Trump, who has previously called the disease a “foreign virus,” tweeted on Tuesday: “The United States will be powerfully supporting those industries, like Airlines and others, that are particularly affected by the Chinese Virus.” Trump has previously retweeted a supporter who called it a “China virus.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-17/trump-s-chinese-virus-tweet-adds-fuel-to-fire-with-beijing?srnd=premium-asia
LOL Doherty to Baird, do you want to talk about politics or the virus – or something like that
Woo-hoo!
Professor Doherty is asked to comment on ScoMo and Murphy’s references to “herd immunity”.
His reply is a classic…
“Do you want to talk about politics, or about medical issues?”
Boerwar @ #1381 Tuesday, March 17th, 2020 – 6:33 pm
Maybe even way beyond the Unemployment Rate during ‘the Recession we had to have’. It’s starting to feel like that time all over again to me. Except the difference is that this time good and well-run businesses are not going to pull through and escape intact on the other side. COVID-19 is indiscriminate.
Frydenberg wins by the length of the straight
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/FCAFC//2020/41.html