Newspoll has turned in a result for its three-weekly federal poll which, if nothing else, shows it’s not letting the May election result prevent it from publishing optimistic-looking numbers for Labor. As related in The Australian ($), the latest poll has the major parties tied on two-party preferred, after four successive results of 51-49 in favour of the Coalition.
The Coalition is down two on the primary vote to 40%, with Labor up two to 35%, the Greens down one to 12% and One Nation up one to 7%. Anthony Albanese enjoys some encouraging movement on personal ratings, with approval up five to 42% and disapproval down seven to 37%. However, Scott Morrison’s ratings are little changed, with approval down one to 46% and disapproval down two to 43%, and his lead as preferred prime minister narrows only marginally, from 47-32 to 46-32.
The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1682.
mikehilliard
Well, it might, but I hae ma doots. Morrison is the original immovable object on anything that might actually benefit the nation, and only seems to want changes that increase his hold on us, and I haven’t noticed the Nats showing sympathy for anything except mining and water harvesting.
D&M:
They’re transcendental, and hence I’m not entirely sure this is true.
lizzie
I’m worried that we’re taking fire reduction techniques used by aborigines in Arnhem Land and applying them to the whole country.
There has been really very little research done into fire reduction burning (it’s picked up in recent times) – we spend millions of dollars every year burning hundreds and thousands of acres of bush on the basis of limited research.
Certain areas – such as the highland forests – are clearly not suited to regular burns. Yet we burn them all the same.
We also ignore some significant differences between aboriginal fire regimes and our own. Aborigines tended to burn off in summer, when nesting for both birds and possums was over. We can’t do that (there’s a huge difference in burning off when you’re the only people for a hundred kilometres and doing so nowadays).
We had a classic – although unintended – fuel reduction burn with the 2001 fires, which in our area were slow burning with flames you could step over. Yet exactly the same areas burnt again in 2004 and 2007, probably even more fiercely.
Fuel reduction burns appear to have value in the early stages of a fire, but once it’s crowned, they’re fairly pointless.
There was a fire expert on morning ABC radio. He pointed out that much of the vegetation which burns well in a bushfire isn’t affected by fire reduction burns, which are not hot enough to ignite them.
We need a lot more research in this area.
Shaun Marsh lbw Starc 7
Looks a shoe-in for the Australian side
“The Liberals seem clueless as to what socialism is and are only good at selective pandering.”
In the Liberal-Murdoch dictionary, “Socialist” is a term of abuse directed at opponents, and “socialism” likewise is used to denigrate any policies that go against the interests of their mates and major donors. Synonyms for “socialist” include “poo-poo head” plus a lot of words that I won’t repeat in such polite company.
Player 1,
Actually, weird as it is, there are systems in atomic physics that do this – it is a geometrical assumption thing, but it means that converting units related to atoms, and their electric and magnetic fields, between units such as Debyes and the SI equivalent are not interchangeable without a totally different formulation.
So, you can set π to 1, but you to adjust your equation accordingly – basically all constants get divided by around 3.14.
No sensible, but it does happen.
lizzie
I agree. But events might just move too quickly for Morrison’s BS.
Shaun Marsh lbw Starc 7
Looks a shoe-in for the Australian side
I heard a nasty rumour to that effect.
Indigenous burning patterns and our current understanding of fire behaviour, will become increasingly irrelevant as global warming intensifies.
EGT,
You are correct that these quantities do not change. they are pure numbers – the ratio of the diameter of a circle to its radius is always 3.14… I think I chose a bad example because it is one of the things that drives me berserk in my field is that people do seem to think that making π set to 1 is OK. The equations work, but I think it is really crap physics.
But it is a niche argument, and a very bad idea for me to mention it here.
D&M
I’ve seen natural units or Planck units, and power systems use “per-unit” calculations for switching between reference voltages, but not what you describe. Sounds even more mental!
I note that some posters (above) referred contemptuously to Craig Kelly’s experience as a shopkeeper.
This is ammo for attacks on elites.
Steve777 says:
Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 7:25 pm
“The Liberals seem clueless as to what socialism is and are only good at selective pandering.”
In the Liberal-Murdoch dictionary, “Socialist” is a term of abuse directed at opponents, and “socialism” likewise is used to denigrate any policies that go against the interests of their mates and major donors. Synonyms for “socialist” include “poo-poo head” plus a lot of words that I won’t repeat in such polite company.
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Or as is the case in America where any sort of government spending gets the label, hearing Americans calling health care socialism would be funny if it wasn’t for the fact they actually believe it.
Zoomster
Absolutely agree. Aust is not an homogenous country and jumping in without considered research would be fatal. We are only at the start of a long transition to a different way of treating the land; the conversation has only just begun. I’m not holding my breath.
Douglas and Milko @ #1706 Wednesday, November 13th, 2019 – 7:27 pm
Sure, but that’s cheating! It’s not the same as setting π to 1. That’s just scaling everything by 3.14 … (etc).
As you point out, if you do that then π then just pops up elsewhere. That’s because π cannot be arbitrarily set. The USA tried that – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill
No fair! 🙂
Boerwar says:
Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 7:36 pm
I note that some posters (above) referred contemptuously to Craig Kelly’s experience as a shopkeeper.
This is ammo for attacks on elites.
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Hopefully one day Parliament will be free from people with University degrees and instead filled with shopkeeps, fish and chip operatives and 33 Jacquie Lambie clones.
DM,
I was actually thinking of natural units when I made that post, but my wording was sloppy. But, the whole field of atomic and molecular physics where I work actually suffers from the inability to convert between different units because of the hidden assumptions about factors of π. and it is actually far worse than natural units, which are crazy because they are removed from the physics, despite what Cambridge mathematicians seem to think.
Basically we just now need, when we publish, say explicitly what our assumptions are.
A quick flick to the Australia A game yesterday saw us 9–82 and Trevor Hohns on his mobile laughing away.
Presumably he was on the phone to Stumpy Marsh.
Douglas and Milko @ #1717 Wednesday, November 13th, 2019 – 7:45 pm
Well, π is not a natural unit. And neither is e – unless you meant the unit charge, and not Euler’s Number (2.1718 …)
Expeditious?
NSW police have announced that no further action will be taken against Minister Elliott.
Marsh is doing about as well as Warner, who it is said, is certain to be in the Test side as we no other openers —-apparently.
I have no brief for Marsh as he is just not up to Test standard, but then he is not alone in the poor ability category…………..
Just how many others from the t’other side of the Rabbit Proof have been tried and found wanting? Answer: many…..
Back in the day, 10 out of the 11 in one Test side all came from NSW. But, hey, in those days, no player from WA could even play Sheffield Shield to be even considered……….Wonder where the selectors came from in those days?
First Dog on when to mention That Wherof We Must Not Speak (don’t mention the climate):
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/13/we-mustnt-bring-politics-into-the-disastrous-situation-that-was-created-by-wait-for-it-politics
Boerwar – so Elliott has been exonerated by the police force,That should be the end of the matter ?
Is there any point in responding to Barnaby? Is there any point in responding to Stokes? Is there any point in responding to Di Natale?
P1,
Definitely no fair, and that is what I thought in the 6 months of my life I will never get back figuring this stuff out.
As I said, my language was definitely sloppy 🙂
WA can pick a full team of players who have played for Australia in one or more formats in recent years. Of them, only Jhye Richardson could seriously be considered to be good enough to be selected now.
Western Australia has been well looked after in the past. Remember Mike Veletta played a couple of test matches for Australia but Jamie Cox and Jamie Siddons didn’t.
Jo Angel, Chris Matthews
Love it. It’s about time the Greens were held to account for their actions (or non actions) on that front.
Steve777 @ #1722 Wednesday, November 13th, 2019 – 7:01 pm
Interesting that for once he avoids slagging off at Labor, reserving his ire for the Liberals and Nationals. Perhaps it’s actually starting to sink in to some of the commentariat that the “both sides” crap has done significant damage to the body politic. Should we look for some more green shoots of this awakening?
I verily think that the two prominent old WASCs on this site, combined with their lesser satellites, went overboard with their castigation of Pegasus. That the moderator didn’t demur thereof is worrisome. Perhaps they contribute too much to his coffers? I’ve been warned for committing lesser sins.
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Re. Pell’s appeal. If Walker’s that confident, why has there not been a bail application? I mean, he’s not a flight risk, he’s very unlikely to re-offend. If the man’s innocent, as he contends, he should not have to spend another night in solitary.
GG and BB have an issue with strong women Mavis hence their vituperative attacks on Pegasus. I don’t take it too seriously nor should anybody else.
“Should we look for some more green shoots of this awakening?”
One can but hope.
Larissa Waters has now totally distanced herself from comments accusing firefighters of domestic abuse which were made at a press conferene organised by her.
It appears the researcher’s work the domestic violence campaigner based her comments on showed an increase in domestic violence numbers after a severe bushfire but never accused firefighters of that abuse.
I think the realisation of the political damage must have sunk in later as she made no sign of discomfort during the press conference.
Her later rebuttal was very strong.
Lars Von Trier:
Peg seems to have a tough hide, though she did going missing in action for a while. When those two WASCs start on someone, they’re a somewhat powerful force, others duly falling into sycophantic line.
What?!
Jeez, it would seem another woeful day for the Greens. Instead of being able to prosecute a cogent case about the need for action on climate change, they are making themselves look like shrill idiots of the George Christiansen and Barnaby Joyce variety.
Confessions
Maybe the Greens are going after the Nationals. So in practise on the gaffe front.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/13/reserve-bank-tipped-to-cut-interest-rates-to-025-as-retailers-predict-grim-christmas
Napoleon didn’t think much of shopkeepers.
π is exactly 3. Get over it. 🙂
Stumpy Marsh and Swampy Boon were both handy players.
Leon:
[‘Napoleon didn’t think much of shopkeepers.’]
And with due cause: Trafalgar, Waterloo.
True Mavis although BB tends to fade in and out – if you catch my drift.
Bail is virtually unheard of pending the hearing of an application for special leave or a High Court Appeal
Justice Kirby granted bail to a Mexican drug lord resisting an extradition to his mother country while he was appealing that decision of the High Court. Other High Court judges overturned Kirby’s decision.
Captain Dragan of the Serbian army , whose extradition from Australia took close to 10 years, was the subject of an appeal to the High Court so he was at liberty but when he realised he was gonna lose in the High Court he disappeared for a time
I get the impression that the fires are making some Greens euphoric at this “proof” they were right all the time and they perhaps think electoral riches will follow.
Perhaps this is adversely affecting their judgement.
While the fires are a graphic demonstration of environmental catastrophe, the suffering they are causing should primarily evoke empathy for the victims, not delight that your political fortunes may improve.
Yes.
Oh dear, I bet they made this correction pretty quickly!!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-11/trashed-housing-part-of-larger-issue-of-youth-crime-in-newman/11690928
I’m the most disappointed with Jordan Steele-John. Larissa Waters and Adam Bandt have always been lightweights, but I had higher expectations of Steele-John.
If Greens MPs can’t stop themselves from turning the bushfires into unedifying displays of seriously poor form, perhaps they need to sit quietly on the sidelines until the emergency and high anxiety in affected communities has passed.
shellbell:
[‘Bail is virtually unheard of pending the hearing of an application for special leave or a High Court Appeal’
A Mexican drug lord and a Serbian thug are hardly analogous to a prince of the church. The fact is, it’s within the remit of Pell to apply for bail. If he were to have his convictions quashed – more likely, a re-trial – the longer he spends in gaol, the more, if he was to be exonerated, the taxpayer’s liability. There’s nothing precluding a bail application. Indeed, it could somewhat portend the strength of his appeal.
Confessions
What the politicians need to do first and foremost is not cast doubt on the ability of fire fighters to do their job by questioning their management techniques.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-13/fire-and-climate-change-what-do-experts-have-to-say/11696586
Does anyone know of the best place to watch tonight’s (our time) impeachment inquiry?