A weekend to forget for the Coalition has been compounded by Newspoll’s finding that its federal operation is down yet another point, putting Labor’s lead at 55-45. Its primary vote is down a point to 34%, the equal lowest since the 2016 election, while Labor is steady on 40%, the Greens are unchanged on 9% and One Nation are up two to 6%. Scott Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is down slightly, from 43-35 to 42-36. Nonetheless, Scott Morrison’s personal ratings have improved since a fortnight ago, with approval up four to 43% and disapproval down five to 42%, while Bill Shorten is up two to 37% and steady on 50%. The poll will have been conducted Thursday to Sunday and the sample around 1700, although it’s not specified in the online report.
UPDATE: The sample size was 1717.
Robert Ball @ #688 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 7:53 pm
Robert Ball,
KayJay, our resident computer guru, knows the answer to the Apple C+ plug in question. 🙂
GG@7:48pm
Is that photo of Bronwyn in parliament photo shopped or is it for real? If it is real, my jaw is hurting as I write this post because it dropped and hit the floor
Yes Ven. It’s for real. Would you be interested in purchasing a time share apartment in Surfers Paradise by any chance? I can arrange a special price. Let me know.
PuffyTMD @ #699 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:00 pm
Nothing to see here!
Ven @ #691 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 7:53 pm
Delusional. They think the yoof will love them again in the morning.
Michael Sukkar is doing a good job in holding his cool with this Alford bloke. Another chair might have leapt over the table and jobbed him!
Dan Gilbury:
While I have no objection to the Greens widening their scope beyond the environment to broader progressive issues, I do agree that Richard di Natale is increasingly proving to be a total dud. His political judgement is deeply lacking, to say the least, with some very strange tactical and legislative decisions under his belt, and every time I hear him speak I’m mildly stunned at just how uninspiring and inarticulate he is. For the first time, I’m genuinely considering preferencing Labor before the Greens at the next election, that’s how disillusioned I’ve become.
BK @ #686 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 7:52 pm
Our Deb O’Neill doing good work too. 🙂
Debbie O’Niell is going for Alford’s throat.
KayJay
I use an IPad, is it possible to get the C+ plug in option to install and use???
Thanks.
BK @ #702 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:04 pm
Is there no way these sort of people can be kept away from the business world!?!
I saw an interesting explanation for the Greens systemic organizational problems with processing effectively the incidents that arise from their woman problem.
The proposition was that the anti-authoritarian culture of the Greens makes it a challenge for them to establish and enforce effective processes for dealing with their sexual cowboys and cowgirls. Presumably the leavening of anarchists does not help in this matter.
This proposition recalled a conversation I had with a very good friend who, in a fit of temporary insanity, joined the Greens. He went off to the next Greens meeting. He was gobsmacked. It was supposed to be a formal branch meeting making formal considerations of formal policies. There was no agenda paper. There were no minutes. No-one wrote down the motions. The floor interrupted the chair on a routine basis. The vote counting was shambolic. He reckons he has never been to a more chaotic meeting in his life.
If the Greens want to be taken seriously as a Party in the Big Tent they are going to have to instill some internal discipline.
BTW, I think I may nearly have cured him but it is a work in progress.
BK @ #707 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:07 pm
I think SHE might jump the desk pretty soon! 😆
C@tmomma @ #701 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:00 pm
Not true.
AR wrote the addon, initially for Chrome and then at the urging of a couple of posters – for Firefox.
I know SFA about any of the Apple products – perhaps someone else with an Ipad can help.
HELP
AR can you please advise us. 🙏🙏🙏
nath@8:03pm
I am not interested. Thanks for your offer.
BK
Mr Sukkar is probably thinking that right now a low profile is in order. Jumping across the table and throttling someone does not exactly fit that bill.
Dan Andrews and Christian Porter.
Compare the pair.
Dan works at doing stuff that people like their government doing and pretty much lets the votes take care of themselves.
Christian (and pretty much every idiot Lib) just thinks that if you get the spin right the punters will gulp down shit sandwiches and ask for seconds.
Is this Alford related to Malcolm Roberts? 🙂
Whish-Wilson knows his stuff and is getting Tony Alford bang to rights.
Some background on Bludger nath.
nath tested the limits when he first came to Bludger. In response to nudges from William nath tempered his offerings.
Mr nath has since, IMO, been entirely consistent with the roolz.
Mr Bowe has a history of not taking kindly to requests that posters, who are following the roolz, be banned.
Were nath a flyfisher and Bludgers trout, nath would have bagged out on many a day.
By saying “privilege” he is claiming immunity for the answer – I don’t think that is necessary for a witness before a parliamentary committee which is automatically privileged but I think it is necessary before a Royal Commission
Robert Ball @ #710 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:07 pm
Please see my earlier post at 8:09 P.M.
From time to time I have been more or less distressed about various items on the blog. In retrospect these things fade into absolute insignificance.
You don’t have to be religious to understand
that
this too will pass.
Where does the phrase and this too shall pass come from?
There is not one definitive answer for the origin of this popular saying, but a common belief is that it stems from a fable written by Persian Sufi poets. Others credit it to Jewish folklore, saying it originated with King Solomon, although it is not recorded in the Bible.
Be kind to yourself. 🙏
Was Dutton given ‘au pair’s for his absence in parliament due to injury? 🙂
KayJay,
And there I was thinking it was George Harrison 🙂
https://youtu.be/pPTHem2iu0A
Oakeshott Country @ #718 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:17 pm
Thank you, OC for the clarification. In other words, he’s being a smart aleck numpty!
What is the goss on how Dutton injured his arm?
ratsak
Before the last week or two I had heard little from Andrews. One thing that struck me after hearing him is that he actually ‘says something’. By that I mean the opposite of what I hear on RN in the mornings when this or that minister is on. They say nothing, it is all spin and weasel. Listening last week I wondered why RN bothers at all. We never learn anything from them and get fed shit that they know is bull dust and they know we know is bulldust. Pointless.
Boerwar,
nath is strange fruit, to be sure. You have to wonder where he gets the motivation to be such an annoying ‘fly fisher’! Other than, it seems, an all-consuming hatred of Bill Shorten.
C@t
Easy: Bludgers take nath’s Shorten bait.
I saw a brilliant Labor ad on social media earlier today using Michael Kroger talking to explain why Labor won the Vic election. No wonder Dan Andrews said he hopes Kroger remains the party president for life.
And a cursory glance at the news reporting shows the media has definitely accepted the narrative that the Vic election is a portent of things to come for federal Libs. One article by Patricia Karvelas was particularly scathing.
Confessions @ #730 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:31 pm
Kroger was clearly auditioning for the job of Labor party president. And it was a very creditable audition!
Robert Ball @ #710 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:07 pm
Why not try to install C+ and see what happens ❓
Chrome Extension
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pb-comments-plugin/onjomgpfepfmffelldjhpapljdfiodpi
Firefox Plugin
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pb-comments-plugin
Good luck. 🙂🙂
Please advise results.
So much truth being told by Victorian Libs in canberra.
https://t.co/plqreeJGQ6
Boerwar @ #726 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:26 pm
Yes, I know. I was just wondering what motivates him to come here just for that sole reason…other than to bait us?
Looks like Tony Alford is auditioning to become chairman of one of the big 4 banks with his performance.
Boerwar @ #726 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:24 pm
Muscle off tendon is what I heard.
C@tmomma @ #734 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:38 pm
Getting a reaction – any reaction – is how trolls get their kicks.
Yes, it seems juvenile, but that’s why they troll 🙁
P1:
I wish I could find it again.
I’ve never seen anything like this appearance of Alford at a parliamentary or senate inquiry.
[‘The NSW Labor party will not rebuild either the Sydney Football Stadium at Moore Park or proceed with an $800 million upgrade to ANZ Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park if it wins government at the March election.’]
This alone may well see an end to dear Gladys’ career. The money saved will be spent on schools and hospitals, Dan showing that infrastructure is a winner with most in voter-land.
Confessions @ #738 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 8:42 pm
https://twitter.com/J_C_Campbell/status/1066915666668609536
Thanks P1!
Bill Shorten opens up about the biggest scandal in his political career.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1066844991081742336
KayJay,
Trust me I know how to deal with it and stay serene. I’ve been dealing with ppl like it for a long, long time.
It Knows nothing, understands nothing.
If one ignores them, they hate it, u take away their reason for being here.
As to IPads, I cannot install things like one does with PCs.eg a VPN.
Here one needs to install Apps you get from a App Store. Eg a VPN app.
If someone can tell the full name of the plug in I’ll look in the App Store to see if they exist.
AR
Feel free to advise me if u can
I have stopped caring too much about party leaders. Years ago I used to think about a Promised One who would lead and vanquish the foe, and followed a few enthusiastically.
But now, not so much. Policy and its implementation is what matters. If your leader dropped dead, someone would take their place and the quest to improve the state/territory/nation would go on.
So the party and its broad aims continue long after any leaders or MPs have gone. I am looking forward to another era of change, led by the Australian people’s choice of a new government.
The Tories look like they’re going for renewal:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/pressure-builds-for-liberal-renewal-after-state-defeat-20181126-p50igq.html
What they need to renew is the deadword, including, but not limited to, Abbott, Abetz, Andrews.
I dislike Bill Shorten and have a few jokes at his expense and therefore I am a troll! how brilliant. I have talked about a lot of issues on here with many people. Look at how Asha Leu was treated earlier by making a joke about people not liking Shorten! C@t and the other lunatic were willing to string him up if the rope had been available. In fact the most sensible posters here have acknowledged that I am not a troll. Just a born entertainer with a few jokes but I also contribute to the political discussion. Plus William adores me.
Mavis
Therein lies the Liberal dilemma there a lot more than just those three to get rid of. A lot of younger ones have to go as well. So many, in each state too.
That’s why it won’t happen. The civil war will deepen, they fight for the heart and soul of the next Coalition government. They know this one is lost.
Like someone mentioned earlier, most of my reels, friends, and others I talk to dislike Mr Shorten. I always ask why. I have never received a rational answer.
Then I enquire if they’ve heard him making magnificent SSO speeches. They haven’t. What about his unifying the party so well for so long. They give a blank look. What about the great policy development they have done under him. Vague look.
So I have come to the conclusion that the RC and the Kill Bill strategy relentlessly pushed by the Coalies for 5 years, both lapped up and amplified daily by the MSM, has found great traction amongst unthinking punters who actually have no idea about him.
And the proof of the pudding that the PPM in the polls means absolutely nothing is the fact that Morrison is ahead of him. In the same ignorant way, had the Coalies elected Dutton as PM I’m sure he too would have been PPM over Shorten.
So my prediction is that shortly after he becomes PM, Shorten will miraculously and mysteriously become PPM over whoever the Coalies select as LOTO. And many will explain it by saying he has “changed” or “matured” now that he has become PM. He will have unexpectedly “grown into” the role.
Greensborough Growler @ #741 Monday, November 26th, 2018 – 5:51 pm
LOL. I will have to make a note to hunt down the full interview when it’s available online.