Today’s Courier-Mail has a YouGov Galaxy poll of federal voting intention in Queensland which gives the Coalition one of its best poll results in some time, crediting them with a 52-48 lead. This represents a two-party swing to Labor of only 2.1% since the 2016 election, although it’s only one point better than in the previous Queensland poll by Galaxy in August last year. The poll also provides further evidence that One Nation has gone off the boil, their primary vote of 9% being three points down on August. The Coalition is up four to 41% (compared with 43.2% at the election), Labor is steady on 32% (30.9% at the election), and the Greens are up three to 10% (8.8% at the election).
A perfectly even split of opinion is recorded on the Adani coal mine, with support and opposition both at 41%. This breaks down to 43-38 against in south-east Queensland, and 45-37 in favour in the rest of the state. The poll was conducted Wednesday and Thursday from a sample of 860.
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i am with ratsak on this one
ratsak @ #1450 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 11:23 am
Hilarious! 😆
C@tmomma @ #1446 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 8:20 am
Trumble is widely expected to pull the trigger in August/September 2018, partly to avoid conflict with fixed term state elections.
If/when August/September pass without an election, the average voter will form the view that the L/NP are hiding from the electorate, and that won’t end well for them.
I fully support fixed terms, and also support moving to 4 year terms.
Nothing is certain in politics until the final voting numbers go up.
Donald Trump was written off long before he even got the presidential gig. Every day there are predictions of his inevitable demise.
Now, however, his base support is up from 35 to 40 percent and the Republican vote has risen accordingly. At this rate, the Repugs will keep control of both houses and Trump may well win a second term.
grimace,
Absent the logistics, the traditional political saw is that a leader goes to an election when he/she thinks they have the best chance of winning. Obviously Turnbull thinks he’s got everything in hand and has a new plan to make us love him again by next year! 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvzAv1QTmU
Barnaby’s legendary “carp” speech in parliament where he is really calling for the eradication of his political opponents. What a grub.
I suppose the good news is that because the affair was kept out of media publicity Barnaby and Co felt emboldened to do likely travel arrangements and later the staffing shifts and salary shifts which will surely be seen as inappropriate and result in more severe damage.
The Toorak Toff @ #1454 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 11:31 am
And you think that’s a good thing and worth noting, because?
when discussing BJoyce with friends yesterday, one of them reminded me of his conduct during the election where it became apparent it was going to be a hung parliament. he went off his tree to Tony Windsor. does anyone else recall that?
So Ms Campion appears to be have been given a job in the whip’s office at a level not usually found there.
And then said Whip gets a promotion and the ministers who supposedly confronted the Beetrooter got dumped.
It really is a pretty open and shut case even without going further down the rabbit hole.
But we know that this extraordinary position had to be approved by the PMO.
Looks to me like some poor bugger in the PMO is going to have to go under the bus to insulate Trumble.
Victoria @ #1444 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 10:20 am
Victoria
Could your posts get any more vapid.
C@t
If this is real and you’re not just mischief making (who, me?) I don’t quite understand why Tony hasn’t been exposed. It would get rid of ‘Mal’s little problem’ for once and for all.
Or, exposed earlier, it would have prevented all the bad judgements made when he was PM.
Joyce is not in trouble because he has started an extra-marital relationship with a staffer. This is merely the pretext, the catalyst. He’s in trouble because he has failed in his duty as leader of his troops. In his use of power, he has put his own personal, private interests and feelings ahead of the collective good, and several of his co-Nationals have lost as a result. He is vulnerable and his enemies know it. They can see a chance to repair their own positions at Joyce’s expense. They’ve taken this chance at the first opportunity, when Parliament has resumed. All the party members are in the one place and the media’s attention is on political events. They’ve also thrown just enough meat to Labor to ensure the issue is raised in the House and that Turnbull will also be brought into picture.
Joyce’s failings have been ethical and personal. But even more than this, they have been political and it appears he will be made to pay the price by his own team.
From over the road, the rules re Ministerial staff…….
https://maps.finance.gov.au/entitlements_handbooks/ministers-of-state/Part_Five_Staff_Matters_-_5.1_Appointment_Procedures_-_5.1
Barring a completely unforeseen event (like, heaven forbid a terrorist attack here which scares the horses) they are as dead as Dodos. The only question is how many seats they’ll lose. If they stick with Turnbull they lose by 10-15 seats. If they panic and go back to Abbott or to some other hard right winger, they’ll lose 25 seats.
Anyone ever even having the thought that Trumble and his mob of loons have the wit to recover really needs a good lie down. As you say a really Black Black Swan event may save them, but it will be completely unrelated to anything they do themselves.
The only thing they do with any competence is incompetence. At that they are masters.
Predicting that Trumble’s glorious week of Triumph would end in catastrophe was no harder than predicting the sun to rise in the East. It’s what they do. It’s always entertaining to find out what new and creative ways they’ll come up with to demonstrate what fuckwits they are from top to bottom, but that the demonstration is just around the next corner is a given.
OK
I suggest some of you do a bit of googling about your favourits. Add staffer and pregnant and see what you find!!!!!!
OMG how thick can some of you be.
How about you do it instead of just making up “what if”s?
I generally don’t think affairs – even ‘secret’ ones are newsworthy per se. That’s my starting point, and I’m with Tony Burke on that (noting that Tony has also transitioned from a lengthy marriage to a former staffer).
Beetrooter-gate is different in a whole bunch of ways, each of which screams out ‘public interest’:
Firstly, given Beetroot’s position as Deputy PM, then high profile by-election candidate, then Deputy PM again, his campaigning as a the ultimate ‘traditional marriage’ family man and defender of the sanctity of marriage over the last 6 months or more of 2016 screams out ‘hypocrite’ and in the words of the Cairns Post ‘fair game’. By itself.
Secondly, the cover-up. I have zero problems with swapping employees of similar grade once a work relationship – whether private or public – becomes intimate. There are guidelines in place for this very reason. This is NOT what has happened here. The Deputy PM’s secret girlfriend got a made up job with a higher salary. With the PM’s sanction. That screams public interest as well.
There are other potential public interest issues as well – ones that all parties are probably very uncomfortable in facing. The whole power dynamic involved in inter office relationships in a political environment, funded by the tax payer. This is a difficult one. Politics is s highly fuelled environment. With lots of pressure and long hours. It is also show business for ugly people and as Kissinger said, power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. It seems to me, from experience as a staffer, that sexual liaisons in that bubble are inevitable. I don’t think they should be banned any more than we should stick our head in the sand about the potential pitfalls – the potential for abuse – both of the personnel involved and of the tax payers largesse. I think an honest and open discussion about this with developed guidelines would be very timely and ultimately useful.
Finally, I strongly suspect that there is an even bigger story with Beetrooter still to come. Probably more than one. My gut tells me that his expensive claims wont bear scrutiny, any more than Susan Ley’s did. Perhaps it will be even worse.
The thing that shits me most is the laziness and bias of the Media – enough was known last year re – grounds 1 & 2 – for this story to break then. At a time when it would have been very relevant to both the byelection and the SSM debate. There is no way the story would not have broken IF it concerned a Labor politician. Especially a woman …
Victoria @ #1445 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 11:20 am
Don’t bet on it.
lizzie @ #1462 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 11:38 am
I honestly don’t know either. However, Mr Antony Abbott has always been doted on by the powerful in our society, in politics, religion and the media, as he has had a foot in all these camps and they are all well-practiced in protecting their own. But it’s not mischief-making, I can assure you of that. Plus, I can’t see any real benefit in disclosing it at this time. Maybe someday. 🙂
“Joyce is not in trouble because he has started an extra-marital relationship with a staffer. This is merely the pretext, the catalyst. He’s in trouble because he has failed in his duty as leader of his troops. ”
yar, why the Tele was the one to “break” the story is curious, especially as they are turning on two of their own in Joyce, a LNP favourite and his partner, a former journo there.
How they got pictures of the partner must have cost, where they following her? tipped off? But putting her on the front page now gives them a legion of followers with smart phones ready to send any pictures of her for a spotters fee.
It is a gross and unwarranted invasion of privacy that should not have happened. Her name and picture are not required, she is six to seven months pregnant with her first kid and the Tele dumps this on her.
Why is the Tele doing this, its more of a kill Barnaby than public interest story. They don’t do these type of stories against conservative government ministers.
grimace @ #1444 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 11:19 am
No, I’m afraid it is you who is missing the point. The problem is *created* by the appointment of someone in a secret relationship, not by whether it is a family member or not.
Adrian – I think you meant “don’t bet against it” …
I don’t think this will affect the polls much.
You have the tele running the story for reasons we dont know whilst the ABC will likely run interference and do stories on labor members doing similar in the past.
Meanwhile we have Rudd appearing telling Turnbull what to do which is always good for a point or two swing from labor.
Me too.
And these propagandists have the hide to rail against Twitter for providing the medium through which their rapidly diminishing readers can illuminate their growing irrelevance.
Boris.
Of course it’ll damage them. He’s the deputy PM. It’ll especially damage them if the stories about use of taxpayers’ money to fund jobs and/ or travel rorts are true.
Joyce is gone. Just a question of when.
Boris
Maybe the Murdoch flunkey who is editor at the Tele was on holiday and a real journalist (there could be one working there, stranger things have happened ) who was left in charge thought “we can’t sit on this story any longer” and pushed the go button.
I guess everybody will have their own theories. Is it a backdoor attack on Turnbull, who the Murdoch press don’t like?
Watching Turnbull wriggle when he asked about who approved Ms Campion’s job arrangements will be interesting. I suspect he will blame Shorten, Labor, the CFMEU, some random man in the street …
maybe grimace can start on book on when Barnaby resigns as leader and DPM as well as MP.
Leader/ DPM, March 23, in time for birth of baby.
MP, next election, won’t stand.
The ABC has just announced the Australian Financial Review’s Political Editor, Laura Tingle, is moving to Aunty, where she will be Chief Political Correspondent for 7.30.
No longer shackled by stuchbury?
In PVOs words, WOW
From the Guardian
The ABC has just announced the Australian Financial Review’s Political Editor, Laura Tingle, is moving to Aunty, where she will be Chief Political Correspondent for 7.30.
How will she go with the sycophantic Sales?
Laura Tingle taking over as 730’s chief political correspondent. Good for her.
rossmcg @ #1477 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 12:03 pm
I reckon you can blame it on the boogie!
Burgey @ #1482 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 11:06 am
The good thing is it will reduce Sales to the role of a mere “presenter”.
It takes time, money and research to get the story the Tele did rossmcg.
Time and money to go to Armidale, Tamworth, wherever, interview and find peoples and places.
Even though Joyce declared his free rent still takes time and money to get the exact details and connections.
to track and get the photos of his partner takes time and money.
to get the job history takes time, money and research.
Plus likely people who know providing the details
rossmcg @ #1481 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 12:05 pm
Just fine.
@P1
“No, I’m afraid it is you who is missing the point. The problem is *created* by the appointment of someone in a secret relationship, not by whether it is a family member or not.”
The problem is created where a person gets preferential treatment because of their being related, intimate, or friendly with someone in a position of power. It’s no worse if it’s secret than if it’s acknowledged but poorly managed.
It being open is required for it to be handled well, but it is not sufficient. i.e. all acceptable situations are open, but not all open situations are acceptable.
It is highly damaging to the LNP. This damage is sufficient to mobilise the numbers against Joyce. Once Joyce has gone, normal transmission will resume. The LNP reckon they can win and, whether this turns out to be the case or not, Joyce is to be penalised for his selfishness and his disloyalty with respect to his colleagues. The Nationals will figure this will help them with their base. They’re probably right.
The bones as well as the meat of the DT story will have been fed to the journalist by Joyce’s antagonists in the NP. No great effort or expense will have been required on the journalist’s part.
Tingle’s move will just increase the concentration of Gilderoy Lockhart’s admirers at Aunty. Leigh, Fran, Sabra and now Laura. …
A question regarding the C+ plug in for anyone who can assist.
Prior to Poll Bludger moving away from Crikey I was using the plug in. However, after the move occurred the plug in was somehow disconnected and now google keeps asking me if I want to re-install it and I am not sure if I should.
At present without it I am able to access the site quite easily, post messages and navigate through the pages. But I don’t have page numbers and I don’t have a preview option, which I think some others may have.
So my question is this – what would I gain from re-installing it and is there any possible downside?
Tingle has been wasted at the AFR.
Voice Endeavour- I agree.
The band is all together again!
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/962846900738129920
Darn I am running one with and one without.
1)Auto update when messages come in.
2)When you get fed up with scrolling past a poster you can block for a while.
Voice Endeavour @ #1487 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 12:09 pm
I’ve worked with “relatives of the boss” in both big and small companies, with no issues whatsoever – why would there be? Everyone knows who is who, and everyone knows whether the relative requires “special” treatment or not. It’s not hard to figure out, or deal with.
I’ve also been in absolutely toxic workplaces where unless you knew who was sleeping with whom, every day was like walking through a mine field.
I know what environment I would rather work in.
briefly @ #1489 Monday, February 12th, 2018 – 12:12 pm
That’s guaranteed!
ratsak says:
Monday, February 12, 2018 at 9:29 am
…”I might add that this affair has a lot of parallels with Rudd’s war on Gillard.”…
…”THE story of that, no matter what your opinion on Rudd’s initial removal, was that a former PM and the CPG were actively complicit in a campaign to bring down his successor.”…
Yes, let’s just ignore the only genuinely important event in the entire sorry saga of the last few years and focus on all the stupid shit that it precipitated.
Alternatively, we could all start being honest with ourselves and admit that none of us knew anything of the alleged policy paralysis, a failing government, micro-managing, and various other bullshit excuses made after the assasination.
Removing Kevin Rudd was, and remains the most diabolically idiotic act the Labor party has committed in my lifetime.
Because of it, we had Abbott and we have Turnbull.
We have an actual failure of a government, that was never competent enough to govern in the first place, much less “lose it’s way”.
That Gillard was better at her job than those that have followed is of no consequence.
She is directly responsible for all that has occurred since 2010, and can probably take a fair share of the blame for the fact that the next Labor P.M. will not be in a position to repair all the damage that has been done.
Neither Rudd, nor Abbott and Turnbull and not a complicit and compliant media are responsible for that.
How many taxpayer dollars per winter olympic medal to date?
@P1 – so if the head of the company said:
“My son is your boss. He’s incompetent, so you have to do his work for him as well as doing your own. Because I pay him so well, we’re going to have to freeze your salary for the next 40 years and you can’t have any bonus. If he screws up worse than normal, the blame will be put on you and you will be fired”.
Would you be thankful that the company was so open about it, and describe the situation as absolutely fine?
Of course not, you’d be running for the door.