As related by The Guardian, Essential Research’s fortnight rolling average result for this week has Labor’s two-party lead at 53-47, down from 54-46 last week. As usual we will have to wait until Essential releases the full report later today for the primary votes.
On the same sex marriage survey, an excessive 86% report having voted, of whom 64% say they voted yes, 31% no, and the rest declining to answer. On the question of support for “an indigenous voice to parliament”, 45% expressed support with 16% opposed, while 47% expressed support for an indigenous treaty, with 16% opposed.
Also featured is the latest in the pollster’s semi-regular series on party attributes, with results similar to those from the previous outing in March. Even the Liberal Party’s rating as “divided” is unchanged at 68%, although it is down six points on being “too close to the big corporate and financial interests”, now at 65%. Labor’s biggest change looks to be a six point drop for “moderate”, to 52%. If I understand the report correctly, the Liberal Party is up six on this measure to 53%.
Section 5 . . . Cartoon Corner
David Rowe and Trump’s Asian tour.
Davis Pope accurately points the finger at Erica and the RWNJs’ rearguard action.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0
This is a beauty from Matt Golding!
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/matt-golding-20151124-gl6ndp.html
John Shakespeare and Turnbull’s problem with trust.
More from Shakespeare – this time on the exemplary teamwork within the Coalition.
Cathy Wilcox has Turnbull telling Dutton where to get off.
Jon Kudelka introduces parliamentary isolation tanks.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/ad9950ee4bb3828f60ce383caa2b640b
Fiona Katauskas with a different sort of citizenship issue.
Back at the Melbourne Cup with Peter Broelman.
Paul Zanetti with the Battler Bus.
From the US.
Glen Le Lievre’s view of the “audit”.
The world view of trickle-down economics.
Matt Golding and a new tourist attraction in Canberra.
Golding has Trump mixing up his speech notes.
Golding with Turnbull’s many problems.
Sean Leahy goes after Anastacia again.
Alan Moir and the clock ticking down for Trump with the Russia issue.
Mark Knight at a modern US church service.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/9e8068e73096c2db1bfb15ec58695174?width=1024
Thanks BK
Good Morning
Hopefully Bolt praising the Greens will Scare the hell out of Turnbull and see an election coming!
BevanShields: What a disgrace. Thugs confront Labor senator @samdastyari in a pub and call him a ‘monkey’ and ‘terrorist’. He handled an ugly scene very well facebook.com/PatriotBlueSta… #auspol
https://twitter.com/bevanshields/status/928204306569838592
sspencer_63: Hey @Toll_Group – you okay with people wearing your uniform while racially abusing federal senators? twitter.com/bevanshields/s…
And now we have the detailed leak of what happened in Cabinet on Turnbull’s citizenship audit cunning plan. We are watching the end game..
“PRIME Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s cabinet overruled his plans for in-depth citizenship scrutiny of politicians’ ancestors’ birthplaces, dating back generations, concerned about the high level of intrusion and the danger of a government holding such a detailed record.
Mr Turnbull on Monday presented to cabinet a plan he had personally developed to collate information on the birthplace of each parent and grandparent of senators and MPs to ensure they were eligible to sit in Parliament.
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull was knocked back by Cabinet over his solution to the citizenship fiasco.
But The Daily Telegraph has learned his cabinet swiftly rounded on him, pointing out how intrusive his proposal was, how it posed a major privacy issue and how dangerous it would be for a government to hold such a detailed record of family history — and potentially for the public to access it.
Cabinet colleagues pointed out that it could lead to identity fraud issues and jeopardise their safety.
An argument swiftly ensued, and Mr Turnbull was overruled by his senior team.
The Daily Telegraph understands senior cabinet ministers, including Peter Dutton were strongly opposed to Mr Turnbull’s proposal and spoke against him.
Treasurer Scott Morrison was also outspoken along with Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg, who did not oppose the plan but has been shaken by the attack on his citizenship that has awakened memories of a traumatic time in his family history.
One cabinet minister pointed out that it was not fair to a politician’s family, given their parents and grandparents did not choose for them to go in to parliament.
“He wanted the birthplace of parents and grandparents to be disclosed by every MP — cabinet went nuts,” a well-placed source said.
“It was far closer to an audit in everything but name.”
Sprockett
So the LNP are going to repeal metadata and facial recognition laws then I take it now privacy is a concern.
http://www.julianburnside.com.au/complaint-to-international-criminal-court-names-abbott-morrison-dutton-turnbull/
BevanShields: Greens leader Richard Di Natale predicts Malcolm Turnbull won’t survive Christmas, Australia will have a snap election in the next few months, and Bill Shorten will become prime minister #auspol
KJBar: Karl to PM: “With the greatest respect you are waffling this morning.” PM says Karl is being “patronising” @TheTodayShow
Demographic analysis of the Virginia vote for Governor by Stu Rothenburg:
https://youtu.be/d0v2H8IJ8wc
Dutton setting Trumble up for a fall.
margokingston1: Surprise surprise. High Court goes on holiday Dec 15 till Feb. PM deadline Dec 18. Delay, delay, the legitimacy question. Shameless.
Afghanistan:
The US recently announces that their troop numbers would increase by 3,000.
NATO will announce another 3,000 later this week.
Total foreign troops will be around 20,000.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-afghanistan/nato-to-send-more-troops-to-afghanistan-after-u-s-shift-idUSKBN1D71E0?il=0
Syria:
“All over, bar the shooting” – that’ll go on indefinitely …
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-islamic-state/syrian-army-allies-take-last-is-stronghold-in-syria-commander-idUSKBN1D81NM?il=0
Here’s yet another twist to the citizenship debacle.
Antony GreenVerified account @AntonyGreenABC 3m3 minutes ago
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1 – A Tas Senate re-count excluding Stephen Parry technically unelects Nick McKim, replaced by Kate McCulloch (One Nation)
Turnbull slagging off at Shorten…doesn’t he understand that when you’re in negotiations with someone being petulant is counter productive? It was Turnbull who went to Shorten, not the other way around…
srpeatling: Words fail me. Pauline Hanson on @samdastyari. twitter.com/grhutchens/sta…
grhutchens: Pauline Hanson: “I call him Mr Bean because that’s exactly what he looks like. A little Mr Bean. But anyway, I’ve got absolutely no time for him whatsoever. I think he’s a smart arse, he shows it on the floor of parliament, he’s got no respect for the people.” #auspol
ABC24 reports that Turnbull is accusing Shorten of failing to show leadership because Shorten would not come to an agreement at their meeting yesterday on the citizen imbroglio.
Shorten, they say, said that he would need to consult with his party regarding Turnbull’s proposals prior to any agreement.
Malcolm was fresh from a meeting with his party members before meeting Shorten with their set of ‘take them or leave them proposals.
Zoomster, I agree.
I just heard Turnbull slagging Shorten. Turnbull is supposed to be a good negotiator, but as far as I can see, he is good at being a bully and cowering his opponents into agreeing with him.
This only works when you are in a position of power. Trouble is, this time around he isn’t. More fool him.
AntonyGreenABC: 4 – And Jacqui Lambie’s replacement if disqualified and a re-count took place would be Steve Martin
Could be an S44 problem with this guy. His remake of the Pink Panther was awful.
That is the standard Coalition “negotiation” technique: abuse and ridicule of opponents, demand immediate and unconditional compliance with the Coalition position, even if they haven’t yet worked out what it is, followed by more abuse and ridicule when such compliance isn’t forthcoming.
‘Failing to show leadership’ !?!
Because Bill Shorten wouldn’t capitulate to a bully’s unreasonable, and advantageous only to him, demands!?!
Because Bill Shorten, like a good leader of men and women, consults with his team before making a decision!?!
Malcolm Turnbull is a WEAK leader, that’s what his performance shows.
Bill Shorten is a STRONG leader.
Another one?
Morning all
Turns out Fox News is playing highlights of One year anniversary since Trump victory.
Wonder if they will decide to mention the results of Virginia etc.
Also wonder when the GOP decide that it is a good idea to impeach Trump. Unless they are more than happy to go down with the Trump ship
The L/NP definition of ‘leadership’ seems to be to ‘do what we tell you to’.
And apparently Mike Pompeo CIA Director at Trump’s urging, meets with those pushing the idea that the DNC Hack was an inside job, rather than a Russian one. Strengthens my view that he is most definitely a bad actor in this imbroglio
Hanson’s grand plan to be the puppeteer pulling the strings in the event of a hung parliament in Queensalnd:
sprocket_ says:
Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 7:17 am
Maternal grandmother: Australia, 1907; maternal grandfather: UK (Scot), 1905; paternal grandmother: Germany, 1910; paternal grandfather: Australia, 1915; mother: Australia, 1940; father: Australia, 1935.
Yes, so much detailed information. How would they be able to go out in public?
I say bullsh!t !!
No names required, just country of birth and the year. Also a field to say what investigations and actions you have taken.
They really are precious petals!
It just gets worse for May – she and Turnbull have a lot in common at the moment.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-07/saudi-prince-arrests-could-spell-disaster-for-rupert-murdoch/9125504
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/you-terrorist-labor-senator-sam-dastyari-racially-abused-in-pub-20171108-gzhmqw.html
Well, not exactly zero, just a few exceptions natch, like preferencing and accomodating the new oh so sophisticated Hanson Rat Bags.
Anyway, I sheet this home to Howard.
Good morning all.
Masterful headline from today’s paper GG
‘ALP blocks scrutiny of dubious trio’
First paragraph
‘Bill Shorten is defying a citizenship truce offer and refusing to release documents of three MPs under a cloud despite assurances Labor has nothing to fear about the widening crisis ‘
Worthy of Fox News.
PhoenixRed
If you are about, this piece by Rick Wilson is a good one
Watching Carter Page immolate himself and incriminate a half dozen of his colleagues from the Trump-Putin 2016 campaign has been a strange, almost guilty pleasure. Profoundly disconnected, socially awkward, and reeking of late-stage virginity, he gives off the creepy Uncanny Valley vibe of a rogue, possibly murderous android or of a man with a too-extensive knowledge of human taxidermy and a soundproofed van.
Rest of article
https://amp.thedailybeast.com/the-strange-pleasure-of-seeing-carter-page-set-himself-on-fire
Turnbull: We’d like to see MPs table their S44 details by the end of the year.
Shorten: We want it to happen sooner than that.
Media: Labor using delaying tactics.
The classic thing is that Turnbull is criticising Shorten for proposing something that strongly resembles what Turnbull took to Cabinet and was too spineless to stand up for.
It’s in the Fox News tradition of being ‘fair and balanced’!
Re Markson story. It looks like Malcolm is leaking against his own team. This cannot end well…
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Too much winning for 280
http://snpy.tv/2zrDlpK
So good!
The GG headline was out done by an article yesterday
‘Windfarm threatens WW1 graves ‘.
The pushes all the buttons I bet the journalist responsible for it will get a nice Christmas bonus.
There is a follow-up today by one Paul Murray
‘If a single bone moves, it is an insult to all who fall’s.
The Windfarm is being built in France, outside Bullecourt.
‘CTaR1
Syria:
“All over, bar the shooting” – that’ll go on indefinitely …’
Pearler.
lizeburke: .@Toll_Group says it’s investigating the incident that saw at least one of its employees launch a racist attack on @samdastyari bit.ly/2zGkhVH @newscomauHQ pic.twitter.com/RjRSd4jhEJ
Having read BK’s links this morning and feeling no cheer, I went back to bed for some extra sleep.
On waking I discover that our world has gone madder, with Pauline vowing to become the virtual leader of Queensland and Malcolm leading us nowhere.
Hi Guytaur,
I know you only re-posted a tweet, but is there anything unfair or inaccurate about Hanson’s comments on Dastyari?
ObamaHitsBack: #WethePeople of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union,establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,promote the general Welfare,and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity… perfect use for 280 characters
Bizarrely overseas we have just seen two cases where dual citizenship and divided loyalties come into play.
Hariri of Lebanon is in HOUSE ARREST in Saudi. ie the PM of another country is under arrest in his other counnty. Now this is exactly the sort of problem dual citizenship can create.
guytaur says:
Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 9:16 am
Yes, I can see that at least one of it’s employees will be looking for a new job.
Not very smart these racist fw.
In an obviously premeditated attack, as shown by the filming starting well before they were anywhere near Dastyari, they didn’t take off or cover up their employers corporate logos, something no company would tolerate being associated with.
Explain some more dtt? Couldn’t anyone be arrested in another country?
Apologies if this has already been pointed out.
If Jacqui Lambie’s case goes to the High Court, her lawyers will be saying things to the effect of “Please don’t throw me into the briar patch!”. Here’s why.
If Lambie is ruled ineligible for the Senate, the balance of her six year term will (barring the vagaries of Tasmanian below-the-line voting) go to her running-mate from the last election. That would leave Lambie herself free to renounce any foreign citizenship and contest the next election in nine or ten months time, and probably win. Net result : two JLN senators instead of one.