As related by The Guardian, Essential Research’s fortnight rolling average result for this week has Labor’s two-party lead at 53-47, down from 54-46 last week. As usual we will have to wait until Essential releases the full report later today for the primary votes.
On the same sex marriage survey, an excessive 86% report having voted, of whom 64% say they voted yes, 31% no, and the rest declining to answer. On the question of support for “an indigenous voice to parliament”, 45% expressed support with 16% opposed, while 47% expressed support for an indigenous treaty, with 16% opposed.
Also featured is the latest in the pollster’s semi-regular series on party attributes, with results similar to those from the previous outing in March. Even the Liberal Party’s rating as “divided” is unchanged at 68%, although it is down six points on being “too close to the big corporate and financial interests”, now at 65%. Labor’s biggest change looks to be a six point drop for “moderate”, to 52%. If I understand the report correctly, the Liberal Party is up six on this measure to 53%.
This would never happen these days!
don @ #1135 Wednesday, November 8th, 2017 – 10:23 pm
You’re starting from a very low standard, comrade!
Being bored I decided to channel surf and landed on the last part of Lateline.
A male with a weird haircut was talking. I really didn’t catch what he was saying because my eye was drawn to what looked like one of those flexible microphones from a lectern that was protruding from his head to just above his eyebrows. Apparently it is attached to his head.
Then Emma and then a woman with a less weird hairdo and the ring of confidence from colgate wrapped around her head. Again I think it was attached.
I think there was meant to be something techy discussed but I couldn’t concentrate.
Toby Esterhase @ #1124 Wednesday, November 8th, 2017 – 8:35 pm
Thank you.
Katter has very little chance of losing the seat in the current environment (if he didn’t lose during Abbott’s sweep , his voters don’t hold it against him for supporting Gillard), likewise McGowan (but she’s already guaranteed confidence to Turnbull). Sharkie may be at risk especially with Xenophon having done a runner but I think it’s to early for that impact to be felt yet.
Bandt is unlikely to be anymore or less at risk regardless of when the next election is called. Ditto Wilkie. Both are fairly safely ensconced at this point.
So if the House independents I think only Sharkie has much incentive to keep offering support.
McGowan could face a backlash if she is perceived to have brought down a conservative government. And she got the second term surge last time, so her support might be past its peak.
Potentially, but the “sophomore surge” isn’t usually a peak so much as it’s the sitting member advantage / personal vote crystalizing, it’s the “normal” around which a candidate orbits from that point on (though given Turnbull’s unexpected thrashing it may be deceptively high yeah).
There’s also the consideration that, even if they don’t lose their jobs, a fresh election would certainly cost the crossbenchers the influence they now enjoy in such a finely balanced House.
Elaugaufein @ #1149 Wednesday, November 8th, 2017 – 8:08 pm
Katter supported Abbott in 2010.
C@tmomma @ #1126 Wednesday, November 8th, 2017 – 10:05 pm
Young Libs?
Hmmm ….. turmoil, grief, and mourning in New Zealand over the sudden death of the new NZ PM’S First Cat.
Turnbull hasn’t been visiting Barnaby’s relations over the ditch, has he?
don @ #1141 Wednesday, November 8th, 2017 – 10:33 pm
Or a fan of George Pell.
God it would be funny if Kiwi Barnaby is also a Pom.
Noooo !
Think of the cats of England!
Section 44 needs to be re-written!
The impairment of dual citizens is idiotic. It should be reformed.
Wow! That was out of left field from you,Briefly!
HA! to both your last posts FS.
This is the “gentleman” on Lateline who was previously referred to:
Many a bludger may not believe it, but my informal canvassing of random voters on S44 continues to disclose two things…
S44 is rubbish
But
They’re glad the lazy and inattentive ones have been caught
In general, they would support repeal by a margin of 3:1
Somehow I don’t think s44 will be a problem for a while after this lot get sorted.
Fulvio…. I long for reform…. it’s my long dream
Question…. it is a problem in and of itself…. it is totally archaic
Dan
Hummm. Interesting, my mother thought otherwise, and called him a traitor to country people for supporting the ALP. But now that you bring it up I think you’re right and she was referring to his preference arrangement with Labor not the 2010 affair.
Briefly, I quite like old fashioned concepts like conflict of interest. I doubt it will be a problem for a while after this, and there are many other things to do.
We know each other’s opinion well enough, so good luck on your campaign.
Elaugaufein
http://australianpolitics.com/2010/09/07/katter-supports-coalition.html
Many things need reform, Briefly, on that we can concur.
But practically, what are the prospects of a referendum getting up, with both major parties opposed, to a greater or lesser extent, and the constitutional requirement of the support of the majority of voters in the majority of States?
Not to mention the wide spread view among many long suffering taxpayers that the lowlife snouted politicians deserve everything objectionable that can be thrown at them.
As one or two others have pointed out, now is not the appropriate time to be pushing this particular reform (if for no ther reason that the pollies current discomfiture is so much fun to behold).
Even at the appropriate time, there would appear to me to be more a prospect of having the British Government repeal the Constitution Act than of a referendum succeeding. (Yes, I know that this is no longer possible either.)
Or, sadly, for a Despot to sieze power and unilaterally overthrow the political system a la Zimbabwe.
Meanwhile, relax, pass the popcorn, and enjoy the spectacle.
Question says:
Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 12:00 am
Briefly, I quite like old fashioned concepts like conflict of interest.
Me too, Question. This is a relevant issue. What I lament is the premise of 44(i), which is that dual citizens are innately conflicted. This is just not the case. It carries with it something I do not believe to be true – that we must presume that there are two classes of Australian. This is not the Australia I know.
Fulvio Sammut says:
Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 12:13 am
Many things need reform, Briefly, on that we can concur.
But practically, what are the prospects of a referendum getting up, with both major parties opposed, to a greater or lesser extent, and the constitutional requirement of the support of the majority of voters in the majority of States?
I think the are many things that call for reform. We are overdue for change…and you’re right, the obstacles to change are substantial. But this does not mean change is neither desirable nor possible.
I think back to the unsurpassed efforts of Curtin and Whitlam. We should draw our inspiration from their examples, from their imperishable achievements.
Yes! It appears my local MP and benchwarmer Jason Fallinksi might actually be a dual national too!
*v safe lib seat thougb
Finally the U.S. has a solution to its gun violence problem:
Just give every teacher a concealed carry firearm and every kid a bulletproof backpack, and the problem solves itself!
a r,
That’s disgraceful!!!
Profiteering buy playing up to parents’ fears.
Maybe next they can offer Captain America shields made from the same material!!!
🙁 🙁 🙁
I’m with briefly. Section 44 should go. None of the members caught out by section 44 would ever have done the country any harm by being dual citizens. By being idiots maybe, but not by being dual citizens. As it is every new election is going to bring a new round of citizenship claims.
Keep the basterds honest, and the only reason why u want to get rid of section 44 is u got something or potentially something to hide!
“[…] we must presume that there are two classes of Australian. ”
Those that can read, comprehend, and comply with Section 44, and those that can’t?
Jaeger
😆
Spot on!
Tony Windsor has a tweet that Barnyards grandmother was a brit and he might be a british citizen. Any comment?
https://twitter.com/169lunar/status/928189135650619393
America Wakes Up Feeling Hopeful After Democrats Crush Trump’s GOP On Election Night
If there is a mood in the majority of the country on the morning after the 2017 election, it is hope. People are hopeful that after a year of dark, divisive, and incompetent Republican governance, voters are ready to restore a sanity check to US politics.
The victories in Virginia, New Jersey, and some of the high profile races, like Charlotte mayor, got national attention, but the Democratic wave wasn’t limited to the city and statewide races.
Strong candidate recruitment and rebuilding party infrastructure helped Democrats win local races that they have not won for centuries:
Less than a year after Obama left office, the mood in the country is hopeful.
In one more year, voters will get their chance to put a stake through the heart of Trump’s presidency by electing a Democratic Congress.
2017 was good, but if Democrats work hard, 2018 will be even better.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/08/america-wakes-feeling-hopeful-democrats-crush-trumps-gop-election-night.html
[Bevan ShieldsVerified account @BevanShields · 11h11 hours ago
It’s end of days stuff guys. Andrew Bolt is praising the Greens as the only party of integrity over citizenship. Now Richard Di Natale is on the Bolt Report! #auspol]
Fox News Had A Meltdown And Pretended Like The Democratic Election Wave Never Happened
Things were going so bad for Republicans on Election Night that Fox News decided that the election didn’t exist, and stopped showing results to their viewers.
On Tucker Carlson’s show, they were all about the election in Virginia, until Northam won:
Carlson did do the most election coverage, at roughly 18 minutes, but there was no mention of how badly things were going for Republicans.
By 9 PM on Hannity, Fox News had moved into full denial.
Election? What election?
Hannity spent his hour orgasming over Trump in South Korea:
Things had gotten so bad that Fox didn’t even have election results on the screen. The network was blacking out the Democratic wave.
People who watch Fox News aren’t just being misinformed. They’re also uninformed, and completely ignorant of the reality of the world around them. A news network isn’t supposed to ignore the news, but that is what Fox did on Election Night 2017.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/08/fox-news-meltdown-pretended-democratic-election-wave-happened.html
Yes, those who think that they are born to rule, and those that don’t.
Democratic Wins Break Trump’s Mind As He Retreats From Reality And Celebrates 2016
Trump showed that he is a man trapped in the past, as he responded to Republicans getting crushed in 2017 by holding a 2016 victory party for himself aboard Air Force One.
Republicans just had their heads handed to them in local and state races across the country, and this is how Trump responded:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Congratulations to all of the ”DEPLORABLES” and the millions of people who gave us a MASSIVE (304-227) Electoral College landslide victory!
5:17 AM – Nov 9, 2017
The reality is that Trump is the least popular president in history, and nearly two-thirds of the country is itching to run him out of the White House on a rail.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/08/2017-election-results-break-trumps-mind-retreats-reality-celebrates-2016-win.html
Jared and Ivanka are ‘in a world of sh*t’ in DC — and New York doesn’t want them back
President Donald Trump’s elder daughter Ivanka and her husband Jared Kushner have scaled back their agendas and intentionally lowered their profile in recent months, but are still rootless and “in a world of sh*t,” according to one family friend.
Vanity Fair‘s Emily Jane Fox wrote that as Trump’s administration flounders and special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation closes in, Ms. Trump and Kushner have seen their options dwindle — and Kushner could face very real legal peril.
“President Trump himself has repeatedly reminded the couple of what a nice life they had in New York, before they were ‘getting killed’ by the press in D.C., several sources have said,” wrote Fox. “Their old life in New York, of course, no longer exists for them as it did.”
And looming over everything is the constant specter of the multiple investigations swarming around the administration.
“They’re in a world of shit,” said a source close to the family. “He may seem cool, but he’s sweating, and she’s like her father. She’ll never acknowledge it and [will] blame the media. But she’s been working on her reputation forever, and now it’s going to suffer horrifically. And for what?”
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/jared-and-ivanka-are-in-a-world-of-sht-in-dc-and-new-york-doesnt-want-them-back/
Prof. Peter Doherty @ProfPCDoherty · 24h24 hours ago
As Govts cut funds for environmental science, we won’t even be aware of the loss of a myriad of “invisible” small vertebrates, insects etc.
ab11
I totally ignorant on ‘twitter’ messages but where does Tony Windsor come into this?
It’s from ‘Mick’ to Barnaby with ‘cc’ to Shorten and D Rose ?
lizzie
Wearing black for the appearance I assume?
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Mark Kenny reckons Shorten “stiffed” Turnbull yesterday over the citizenship register or whatever.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/not-my-problem-bill-shorten-stiffs-embattled-malcolm-turnbull-20171108-gzhcev.html
Adam Gartrell and Mark Kenny seem to be suggesting that Turnbull’s a bit spooked over the issue.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-plans-to-recall-parliament-to-deal-with-citizenship-issues-20171108-gzh2i1.html
Phil Coorey has his say on the worsening citizenship issue. Google.
/news/politics/citizenship-crisis-worsens-as-malcolm-turnbull-bill-shorten-bicker-20171107-gzgwgz
Michelle Grattan says Malcolm Turnbull and Bill Shorten are inching towards an agreement on the form of a citizenship declaration that each member of parliament would have to make within weeks.
https://theconversation.com/turnbull-and-shorten-haggle-over-detail-of-citizenship-disclosure-system-87106
Judith Ireland is not impressed with Turnbull’s “trust” proposal.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/trust-me-im-a-politician-why-the-citizenship-plan-beggars-belief-20171107-gzgfs9.html
Richo calls time for this “dud PM”. Google.
/opinion/columnists/graham-richardson/time-is-up-for-dud-pm-malcolm-turnbull/news-story/ba09f52b15e75abf42358556758c4f03
Taking a break between grave matters of national security and remembering the Holocaust in Israel, Malcolm Turnbull said, somewhat incongruously, that he was having more fun than he had ever had in his life. Mungo MacCallum says that Turnbull is still pretending he’s in charge.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/mungo-maccallum-malcolm-turnbull-is-still-pretending-hes-in-charge,10906
Katharine Murphy analyses what’s going on with the “bipartisan” approach to citizenship for MPs.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/08/citizenship-deal-or-no-deal-as-leaders-keep-pathetic-game-show-on-the-air
John Warhurst proffers a case for extending the citizenship test to judges, generals and the like.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-stop-at-parliament-why-not-disqualify-dualcitizen-judges-generals-and-bureaucrats-20171107-gzgwkk.html
Andrew Bolt with a good spit at the Liberals and Turnbull in particular. Google.
/news/opinion/andrew-bolt/andrew-bolt-liberal-power-is-wasted-without-liberal-ideas/news-story/5e6668e386ecbbab28fc1cbda6e6889f
Section 2 . . .
Peter Martin tells us that people simply do not believe Scott Morrison when ha says that better days are ahead and then explains why. It’s not a pretty picture.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/better-economic-days-ahead-sorry-not-yet-20171107-gzgzeg.html
The Turnbull government’s hopes it can pass its landmark “super savers” scheme for first home buyers this year appear all but dashed. He’s not going well, is he?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/turnbull-governments-first-home-buyers-scheme-in-trouble-20171108-gzh447.html
An analysis of 2016 Census employment figures by economists and planners SGS shows Australian cities are booming, as jobs growth languishes in regional areas.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/inner-melbourne-jobs-boom-as-suburbs-stall-and-regions-languish-census-analysis-20171108-gzhc2s.html
This SSM proponent is concerned about what will be the legislation that follows the survey.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/08/we-deserve-a-resounding-yes-for-marriage-equality-not-half-measures
The Paradise Papers show that the owner of one of Australia’s dirtiest coal-fired power plants quietly moved $1bn offshore within days of pocketing $117m from taxpayers in compensation for Labor’s now-defunct carbon tax.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/08/coal-fired-plant-shifted-1bn-offshore-while-pocketing-117m-from-australian-taxpayers
Trump copped a pasting in mid-term elections yesterday.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/voter-deliver-first-forceful-rebuke-to-president-donald-trump-20171108-gzhk2k.html
The SMH editorial says that Trump’s tour of Asia will be remembered for its consequences.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/trumps-asia-tour-will-be-judged-by-whether-it-pressures-kim-into-talks-20171108-gzhdux.html
Peter Martin reports that talks aimed at reviving the stalled Trans-Pacific Partnership between Australia and 10 other nations could add as much as $100 million to the cost of the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/reborn-trans-pacific-partnership-could-see-vital-subsidised-drugs-cost-more-20171108-gzheir.html
Dutton’s logic may hold sway with Immigration, the courts and the military in PNG, where Australia’s $500 million in aid is on the line, but he can’t alter the facts of the abuse of refugees on Manus Island.
https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/duttons-human-rights-abuses-on-manus-there-for-the-world-to-see,10909
Nick McKim writes ‘Hartcher asks what the Greens and refugee activists hope to achieve on Manus Island. My answer is simple: the freedom and safety of every single detained person.’
https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/nick-mckim-a-reply-to-peter-hartcher-on-the-manus-humanitarian-crisis,10908
Section 3 . . .
Madonna King writes about Anastacia’s big problem with Adani.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/that-thinking-feeling/annastacia-palaszczuks-adani-problem-20171108-gzhk80.html
He’s back! Tony Abbott has delivered a blunt warning to the New South Wales Liberal party’s moderate faction that they would be doing “extraordinary … even terminal damage” if they opposed his efforts to democratise the party.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/08/abbott-says-nsw-liberals-risk-terminal-damage-if-they-oppose-his-reforms
South Australia’s renewables-heavy electricity market has been turned upside down, moving from importing power to exporting it, and from having some the most expensive wholesale prices in the country to having some of the cheapest. And all that appears to be a result of one gas deal secured by a generator that was blamed by many as a major cause of a blackout in SouthAustralia in February. Suck that up, Luddites!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/08/south-australia-experiences-dramatic-fall-in-energy-costs-after-gas-deal
The man named as the sole director of Salim Mehajer’s new wedding business venture has been charged with murder, following the execution-style killing of a former bikie associate. Something special is Mehajer!
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/director-of-salim-mehajer-wedding-venture-charged-over-bikie-murder-20171108-gzh6sw.html
A bullet accompanied by a threatening note has been sent to Barnaby Joyce’s campaign office in Tamworth. We can do without this sort of stuff! Google.
/national-affairs/death-threat-and-bullet-in-the-mail-for-barnaby/news-story/69eaf2e8d38cb8ecda2feb88be21ed96
Nor do we need this!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/11/08/right-wing-hate-group-targets-sam-dastyari-in-melbourne_a_23270511/?utm_hp_ref=au-homepage
Canavan is a peasant!
http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/queensland/2017/11/08/annastacia-palaszczuk-matt-canavan-adani-loan/
An unhappy Michael West writes that high in their opulent CBD eyries, the architects of global tax avoidance must be indulging in a quiet chuckle, a nervous chuckle perhaps, because the media has once again missed the forest for the trees.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/paradise-papers-media-ignores-real-tax-culprits/
Australia’s drugs and medical devices watchdog has denied it is too close to the industry or that receiving funding from health and medical companies is a conflict of interest, after its independence was questioned by health experts.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/08/therapeutic-goods-administration-rejects-claims-it-is-too-close-to-medical-industry
Section 4 . . .
I hope all ISPs take note of this.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/telstra-offering-compensation-to-42000-customers-over-slow-nbn-speeds-20171107-gzgybn.html
The Australian Greens can be as anti-science as any of the major parties when the politics suit, writes Geoff Russell.
https://newmatilda.com/2017/11/08/greens-at-a-fork-in-the-road-evidence-based-decisions-or-mob-rule/
No punishment is severe enough for these bastards!
http://www.smh.com.au/wa-news/last-member-of-evil-8-found-guilty-child-rapist-learns-fate-as-details-of-abuse-laid-bare-20171107-gzgmsl.html
A former Commonwealth Bank financial planner has entered a guilty plea for forging documents, and will be sentenced next month.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/former-cba-planner-ricky-david-gillespie-pleads-guilty-to-forgery-20171108-gzh24j.html
$9.40 for a 15oz “pint” at the Adelaide Oval Test. And $5 for a bottle of water. Come on! Google.
/news/south-australia/adelaide-oval-food-and-drink-prices-jacked-up-again-beers-now-940-a-pint/news-story/4f3845bebac06dab3b5c45723b5bcf06