The Guardian reports Essential Research has an unusual two-point movement in favour of the Coalition in its fortnight rolling average, cutting Labor’s lead from 54-46 to 52-48. No word yet on the primary vote. The other big finding from the poll is that support for same-sex marriage was recorded at 55%, down four points on a fortnight ago, with opposition up three to 34%. Once again though, supporters report higher likelihood to vote, with yes leading 59% to 37% among those who said they had voted already. Other questions find belief in climate change caused by human activity up four points since February to 60%, with only 24% favouring the alternative option of “we may just be witnessing a normal fluctuation in the Earth’s climate”, down one. Other questions rate to cost of living concerns (topped by utilities and housing) and wage increase (52% said they had not received one in the past year).
UPDATE: Full results here. On the primary vote, the Coalition is up two to 38%, Labor is down one to 37%, the Greens are steady on 10% and One Nation is down one to 8%.
Ides of March @ #448 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 8:32 pm
With respect, I think the 60/60 analysis will destroy the Yes vote. 36% ain’t overwhelming support.
The fact that it’ seem s to be plummeting further atm does not augur well for the change merchants.
Greensborough Growler @ #447 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 8:37 pm
You must be going back a long while as I shifted solidly yes quite some time ago.
See for example exchanges with the P1 troll.
What you may have mistaken for ambivalence in recent times may have been an expectation that it would not go ahead. I was wrong on that unfortunately.
I have said a lot less than some as I don’t see this as a forum where anyone is persuadable. I put my effort in elsewhere and it was productive.
GG
With all due respect right back, I would like a clearer answer. Ignoring the current survey and as such, do you think SSM is inevitable?
Greensborough Growler @ #450 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 8:41 pm
It is in a non-compulsory vote.
Not this PBer. Couldn’t give a toss truth be told.
confessions @ #454 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 8:48 pm
Few prize ignorance as much as Confessions.
Ides:
SSM is inevitable. The next Labor govt will legislate for it if this current mob wont’.
Greensborough Growler @ #452 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 8:41 pm
No, it’s strictly better than 40/60 support. 36% is a bigger number than 24%. By an entire 50%.
The bigger number wins, that’s how the process works. Unless you’re in America, where the number that’s smaller by 3 million wins due to some archaic nonsense involving land area and population density.
Mixed messages from the Government, how not surprising.
[Julie Bishop says Rohingya must be protected despite ‘cash for return’ policy]
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/19/julie-bishop-says-rohingya-must-be-protected-despite-cash-for-return-policy
Ides of March @ #454 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 8:48 pm
I’ve always said that civil unions should be legalised if people want that.
So, some accommodation in that direction is possible.
Although, the Yessers have been fairly disgraceful in the way they have prosecuted their argument.
I’ve said this before on PB. But, if it’s all or nothing in a political argument, “Prepare for Nothing”.
GG
You are still not answering my question.
Is same-sex marriage inevitable?
A R @ #459 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 8:51 pm
If you think so.
Don’t know how it’ will run in the real world.
bemused @ #453 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 8:47 pm
Bit disappointing that you need to sledge P1.
But, fair enough. I don’t pay much attention to your posts these days.
Didn’t see the subtlety in your position.
Cheers.
Hope the Socceroos are watching this
Ides of March @ #462 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 8:56 pm
Nothing is inevitable
GG
I have you as believing SSM is not inevitable. Is this correct?
Ides of March @ #467 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 9:08 pm
You can believe whatever you like.
But the official position is Yes and no. But, not just yet!
Greensborough Growler @ #463 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 8:57 pm
I think something along the lines of:
1. The right screams bloody murder about one made-up contrivance or another.
2. Turnbull caves, and introduces further delays into the process or otherwise sabotages it.
3. Labor is elected.
4. Marriage Equality.
GG
Simple yes or no. Is it inevitable? Why cant you give me a straight answer?
Greensborough Growler
Boerwar @ #379 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 7:07 pm
Folks
I put the envelope with the ‘yes’ inside into the red tin box today.
I would appreciate it if the GG camps, pro- and anti-, put a sock on it…
… oh, wait.
My ballot is feeding the worms, right now!
Thank christ for that!
And why is GG Allowed to be homophobic to the yes vote is beyond me!
Aung San Suu Kyi’s speech today really full of it.
“We will cooperate with Bangladesh to take back those refugees who can be verified”.
The Burmese military have spent the last decade or so taking any identification papers the Rohingyas had off them so bugger all of the 400,000 of them who have fled over the border will have anything that will verify them as previously living in Burma/Myanmar.
A R @ #469 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 9:13 pm
Lots of potential slippage after 1.
zoidlord @ #472 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 9:18 pm
Your absolute best shot.
And, it’s pissweak is’t it?
Ides of March @ #470 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 9:13 pm
There is nothing straight about a debate on Homosexual marriage1
From today’s Crikey.
Yeesh I’m heartily sick of these No campaigner whingers and moaners. Vote No. Tell people why you’re voting No if that’s your gig. Or not if you don’t want people to criticise you for it. End of story.
It was your choice to make a big production of why you’re voting the way you are, just as dinosaur Corbett did last night, and ended up looking like an idiot. You have as much right to vote the way you want as anyone else, but having made a big production out of it you look somewhat like a whiny loser now turning your media rant into a major mega-drama soap opera of epic proportion pity party. All you had to do was tick a box and stuff the form into a reply paid envelope. Not run to the media like a drama lama.
GG
Is SSM inevitable? Yes or no?
Ides of March @ #478 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 9:31 pm
Omega!
GG
Why wont you give a serious answer?
Australia win 3-2 against Brazil. Big ups Matilda’s.
Ides of March @ #480 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 9:35 pm
15th march every year I give serious answers.
Good win mikehilliard. Unlucky not to slot in a couple more.
GG
I have been respectful of you having a different opinion. I think you know that I am not into berating people on PB for having a different view than I. I think you should show some courtesy as I have been showing you and answer the question with a yes or no. I am not interested in the why.
Greensborough Growler
Ides of March @ #480 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 9:35 pm
GG
Why wont you give a serious answer?
15th march every year I give serious answers.
Why would anyone care?
mikehilliard…great game to watch. If only the guys played with that skill….! lol
don @ #485 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 9:43 pm
You are delicious Don!
mikehilliard,Aqualung…do you follow the HAL as well.?
Ides of March @ #484 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 9:42 pm
Unfortunately for you, your needs are more important to you than they are to me.
But, remember the great John lennon once sang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqB8Dm65X18
Managed to get to 1 game last year sonar. SFC v Adelaide.
Only have fta so relied on sbs. On 10 this year apparently.
sonar/Aqualung
C@ will be on to you two soon for turning this into a soccer blog.
sonar
Sorry no not into A League, just like watching the Matilda’s when I can (don’t have Fox). Not a big watcher on tv but have 3 girls who all play.
Doesn’t the cricket season start soon CTar1?
mikehilliard @ #490 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 10:05 pm
I think the Matildas are just a fantastic inspiration for young girls.
I look forward to my granddaughters taking an interest.
Confessions its 5 buckets of popcorn time.
1. Yes result
2. Right wing blow up the Libs
3. Labor win
4. Labor immediately enact SSM
5. GG wriggles, squirms, obfuscates and then implodes
Its a win, win, win, win, win situation 🙂
Aqua – Summer is coming so yes. I watch about 1 day of it and that will be about it for me.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKFfoh1V4AA9KCV?format=jpg&name=large
“CTar1
sonar/Aqualung
C@ will be on to you two soon for turning this into a soccer blog.”…
I was conducting an informal PB poll/survey…lol
Cheaper than stamps.
sonar @ #496 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 10:15 pm
Sure beats AFL.
bemused
With you there. Good luck with the granddaughters playing.
mikehilliard @ #498 Tuesday, September 19th, 2017 – 10:20 pm
The 7yo is into dancing but might get into sport at some stage.
The 3yo is a bit young yet. But she is a ball of energy and will need a good outlet in time.