The third voting intention poll from YouGov again has primary vote numbers that aren’t wildly off beam from the other pollsters, but leans heavily to the Coalition in terms of preference allocation. However, this is less severe than it was in the last poll, so I’ve decided to revert to type in running the two-party result as my headline, at least on this occasion. Whereas the Coalition led 52-48 in the last poll, this time it’s level despite both major parties being unchanged on the primary vote, at 36% for the Coalition and 33% for Labor. However, the Greens are down two points to 10%, which a) brings this result closer into line than other pollsters, and b) would actually have led to you expect movement away from Labor on two-party preferred, if previous election preferences were applied. One Nation is up a point to 8%. Applying 2016 preference flows to these unrounded figures, the result come out at around 52-48 in favour of Labor.
Other findings from the poll:
• Malcolm Turnbull records 45% approval and 47% disapproval, while Bill Shorten is on 42% approval and 47% disapproval, which is better than what both are used to. Also featured are ratings for a number of second-tier political figures, with results of 34-56 for Tony Abbott, 25-38 for Richard Di Natale, 31-44 for Christopher Pyne, 39-52 for Pauline Hanson, 33-43 for Bob Katter and, with the only net positive result, 50-25 for Nick Xenophon.
• Twenty-six per cent say Malcolm Turnbull “represents what the Liberal Party stands for” more than Tony Abbott, 19% the opposite, 22% call it a draw, and 18% say neither does. The respective numbers are 20-19-13-38 for being in touch with the concerns of ordinary Australians, 30-14-14-30 for electability and 23-19-13-35 for strength of leadership.
• Fifty-three per cent say they would support a referendum on establishing a new body representative of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, but it may just be that people like referendums: of those in favour, 38% would vote yes in such a referendum and 15% would vote no. Support was presumably lower among those opposed to a referendum, but the numbers are not provided.
• Thirty-seven per cent would support a referendum proposal to allow dual citizens to run for federal parliament, with 48% opposed.
• Sixty-eight per cent believe women in sport should get the same pay as men, with only 18% opposed. Sixty-four per cent think the AFL officials who resigned over relationships with younger female staff members were right to have done so, with only 17% saying they were wrong to have.
The poll was conducted online from Thursday to Monday, with a sample of 1005.
NOTE ON COMMENTS REDESIGN: As regular users will know by now, we have a new comments facility which looks a lot sharper than what we had before and has a number of welcome new features. It also publishes the results in reverse chronologically, which is not to everybody’s tastes but has been done for good reason, and which you get used to quicker than you might think. Most of all, this has had a spectacular effect on the efficiency with which Crikey’s servers are operating.
Barney in Go Dau @ #651 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:12 pm
Yep, it’s not a lie if you’re too stupid to realise what you’re saying is wrong.
William
Sorry I should have said if you think the site is unusable you think the design is bad and not user friendly.
As I have said before I am pretty happy with the site. I would like pagination and emoji but thats me. I don’t find it making the site bad for me. Sorry for any confusion.
bemused
I do not need an add on to view any other site. Thats not me being precious. Thats the designers of the blog not being user friendly
guytaur @ #642 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:04 pm
No shit Sherlock!
So what do you do then, just whinge about it or try to make the best of it with whatever aids are available?
https://twitter.com/KnottMatthew/status/890334720512348161
Barnaby’s lie to the farmers must be a conscious one.
KayJay
You’re so wonderful. Gorgeous.
I couldn’t think of anyone nicer than you to help through the hard days.
You take care of yourself, too.
And, you make me laugh. And that’s a great thing. Thanks buddy.
William
I have pages and I am receiving the posts with the latest at the bottom. Am I likely to run into any problems doing it this way?
If this idiotic postal plebiscite does get up, I am sure it will be organised with little or no time to update your address. Gotta disenfranchise the young somehow.
If you’ve moved, you should go to the AEC website and update your address.
http://www.aec.gov.au/enrol/change-address.htm
You can even have a mini rant in the 100 characters or less box for why you are updating your address. Cathartic and probably safer than a public tweet.
Plans are in place for Philip Ruddock, the former federal attorney-general, immigration minister and member for Berowra, to run as the Liberal candidate for Hornsby Shire mayor in the upcoming NSW local council elections, party sources say.
Mr Ruddock’s candidacy will cap off more than two months of bitter in-fighting within the local party over the now confirmed backdown by the NSW government on the merger of Hornsby and Ku-ring-gai councils.
Sorry – source. http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/plans-for-philip-ruddock-to-return-to-politics-as-mayor-of-hornsby-20170727-gxjx1z.html
Not surprising,
mental health issues raise their head after the latest police shooting in Sydney last night.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-27/brother-of-man-shot-at-sydney-central-station-criticises-police/8748834
Barney in Go Dau @ #661 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:25 pm
As soon as I read last night that he had shouted “shoot me, shoot me” I was pretty sure that would be found to be the case.
lizzie
So, Hornsby allows skeletons in closet.
VE:
Good point.
It’s funny, isn’t it, every time it’s a whitey, there’s mental health issues!
kezza2 @ #665 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:30 pm
Except he is not a “whitey”.
It is noting to do with ethnicity, it is the behaviours exhibited.
I am sure quite a few non-whites with mental health issues have suffered at the hands of the cops too. This appears to be suicide by cop. in which our trigger happy police were happy to oblige.
b>kezza2 @ #665 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:00 pm
Boris averted his eyes with embarrassment when Julie Bishop, in opening comments, referred to the uncertainty caused by, among other factors, the rise of economic nationalism. For a few moments there, he looked like he’d rather be anywhere else at all. Could be a fun press conference.
Well, since you know it all, who is he?
And, since you’re prepared to say he has mental health issues, how do you know?
Test
NSW Greens positioning for a pre-selection challenge to Lee Rhiannon.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/greens-mlc-mehreen-faruqi-in-senate-preselection-bid-20170726-gxj4ph.html
So is there some sort of pagination thing on the extension everybody’s talking about? If so, can one of you volunteer to send me a screen shot of it, so I can suggest to the powers that it would be feasible for them to add such a feature?
Puff, the Magic Dragon. @ #667 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:37 pm
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shellbell
#865 Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 2:11 pm
The NSW police have a certain distance they won’t let someone armed with a potentially lethal weapon encroach. It is six metres.
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The was a part of a clip taken on a mobile phone on the news at lunchtime of what happened and the asian bloke with the scissors appears to lunge at the copper who fired the shot ?
As far as mental health issues go, yelling ‘Shoot me, shoot me’ at armed cops is a big clue.
What colour his outer covering i.e. skin, is makes no difference to me.
William Bowe @ #672 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:41 pm
AR’s extension
kezza2 @ #669 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:38 pm
Did you bother to read the ABC item that was linked to?
He has had mental health problems for about 10 years. His name was Danukul Mokmool and his half-brothers name is Charlie Huyn. The mother appears to be Vietnamese.
People in a normal mental state do not ask police to shoot them.
Need any more?
Good stuff – thanks Zeh.
Oh goody, more fun and games with the NSW Greens!
My only comment on the shooting at Central Station is this.
Are the NSW police too fast to reach for guns than Tasers or Pepper Spray?
An Inquiry is under way to answer that question.
As long as those questions are answered then I am happy to not judge in the meantime on this specific case.
Generally it seems to me that having guns means they are more likely to be used. Its different in the UK where only terrorism has UK police being armed.
London has had a lot of non terror related stabbing incidents. The police seem to deal with there without the use of guns.
Fess
Considering all the environmental disasters and potential ones we’re heading for, I wish the Greens would stick to their knitting and stop playing at politics.
Zeh
AR’s extension
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WOW …….. I must have the paupers version compared to that screen shot of AR’s extension …….
A photo of the shooting victim (centre) with half-brother and mother.
Well, at least he wasn’t considered a terrorist.
And I apologise abjectly to Puffy and Bemused, and anybody else, for getting it wrong.
The pages thingo and comments in normal order and quote function all seem related.
None work on the iphone, but do on a bog standard Windows desktop with Chrome.
At least Ithink it’s bog standard!
Lizzie:
From watching Rhiannon’s interview on on Insiders that day it didn’t look like she’d be going away quietly any time soon. But I do think she needs to go. She’s had her time and for the good of the party should cough up her seat in favour of fresh thinking. That said I didn’t approve of the way Di Natale has seemingly tried to bully her out.
adrian
I tried the version with quote function, pages etc, and preferred the original with the little green comments box.
Central station shooting: florist says police ‘had no choice’ to open fire on attacker
Florist Emmanuel Theoharas says Danukul Mokmool held a broken bottle to his neck and was repeatedly warned by police to put down his weapons
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/27/central-station-shooting-florist-says-police-had-no-choice-to-open-fire-on-attacker
lethal weapon? A pair of scissors at 6 metres? What was he supposed to do, extend his stretchy arms and stab them in the neck, or turn it into a ninja star and throw it at them? They are supposed to be police, not the army. What is wrong with containing him. What happened to tasers. Or are tasers just for use on handcuffed prisoners to make them comply with directions (as has been video-ed.)
Thr police are still unnecessarily killing people with mental health problems. It won’t stop until one of these trigger-happy cops is brought up on manslaughter charges.
dave @ #673 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:13 pm
Lizzie
Politics is the Greens’ knitting, IMO.
You’d be struggling to stand 6 metres away from anyone at that particular section of Central. Not far from my morning coffee shop.
Re the blog: I use an Android phone and apart from pages I’m pretty happy with it. Reading from the bottom is tolerable. I get absolute time. I can edit. I have to copy and paste text to repond afaik but no biggy.
I don’t understand the dislike of “Read more”. You click on it and it unfurls the post. After enduring LGH last week I consider it a deity send.
I am guessing that the extensions don’t apply to mobile devices?
Did you just assume my citizenship?
Senator Roberts claims that when he said he had only ever been a British Citizen, he meant that he self identified as an Australian only. He had never been a British Citizen in his heart, even if he was one on paper.
For a man famous for his alternative facts, this is still a bizarre escalation towards surrealism.
The same source claims that Senator Roberts resigned from the citizenship he did not have on the 6th of June, 2016, 3 days before the due date. Although this is a spokesmen for the party making a media statement and not a stat dec from Mr Roberts.
Mr Black accused Fairfax Media of running a left-wing agenda against One Nation and said Senator Roberts did not lie.
“He is choosing to believe that he was never British. He is preferring to believe that he was never British because he has no allegiance or exercised any citizenship arrangement. However they have renounced and released him of anything to do with them,” he said.
“… There is nothing wrong or incongruent with Malcolm Roberts putting his hand up and saying as far as I’m concerned I’m not British, never was – the British government may have a different view.”
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/one-nation-senator-malcolm-roberts-denies-he-lied-is-choosing-to-believe-he-was-never-a-uk-citizen-20170727-gxjp3c.html
Sally McManusVerified account @sallymcmanus · 8h8 hours ago
I suppose you can understand why
kezza2 @ #683 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:52 pm
An ordinary apology is more than sufficient although none was sought.
It is all very sad. The poor mother. 😥
Boerwar
“Politics is the Greens’ knitting, IMO.”
That’s certainly how it’s working now.
Have they made any comment on Murray-Darling yet?
@ Aqualung – condensing long posts is fine, but taking away the ability to include links or formatting in the 8 lines that are shown is not good.
Zeh, Instead of a drop down list of pages, it would be better to have a drop down list of times.
Transgender former Navy SEAL who helped take down Bin Laden: ‘Tell me I’m not worthy’ to my face
Kristin Beck, a former Navy SEAL Team 6 member who publicly came out as transgender in 2013, had some tough criticism for President Trump’s plan to reinstate a ban on transgender individuals serving in the military.
Ms. Beck, who served stints in Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan and received multiple military awards and decorations, said the move would negatively impact the thousands of transgender individuals already serving in the military or those who want to enlist
Ms. Beck said the money the Trump administration is looking to save with this decision is “negligible.”
“You’re talking about .000001% of the military budget,” she said.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/transgender-former-navy-seal-who-helped-take-down-bin-laden-tell-me-im-not-worthy-to-my-face/
VE:
Good to see pressure continuing to be applied to Roberts to cough up actual evidence he renounced his citizenship of the UK. Do we know who would be elected in his place if he is forced to resign as well?
Aqualung:
Personally I love the ‘read more’. It makes long-winded verbose commenters easily more scrollable, ie as you say, LGH.
dave @ #687 Thursday, July 27th, 2017 – 3:56 pm
I read he had dropped the broken bottle and picked up a pair of scissors. He had also moved away from the florist.
NSW cops have Tasers which are normally non-lethal. Why were they not used?