This week’s results from Newspoll and Essential Research have resulted in very slight movement to the Coalition on the BludgerTrack poll aggregate’s two-party preferred reading, although Labor makes a net gain on the seat projection as gains in Western Australia and South Australia balance out a loss in Queensland. The new leadership numbers from Newspoll see the preferred prime minister rating maintain its condition of dead calm since the election, and both leaders’ net approval ratings continue their slow downward trend.
BludgerTrack: 52.6-47.4 to Labor
Another week of stasis in the polls results in another stable reading of the BludgerTrack poll aggregate.
C@Tmomma
A joke foretold in the movie Idiocracy, All hail POTUS Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. 🙂
Simon Aussie Katich
I first came across Robert Fisk when he was reporting on the war in Yugoslavia. He made a comment that stuck in my mind. In giving a background to past conflicts and divisions in one region re christian and muslims he recounted some major war/battle from 500 years ago that caused a major upheaval. He added that rather than ancient history it was considered by the locals as “current affairs” .
SK
The Crusaders from western Europe theoretically were there to assist their Orthodox Christian ‘friends’ against the Turks. To put them in context imagine a very large bunch of soccer hooligans who stayed too long.
The history of the eastern Roman Empire is fascinating reading and, as you say, grudges around the ‘fall’ of Constantinople (1453) still resonate through the years in the current nearby countries
Whither the US & Russia in Syria & Yemen?
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/if-your-take-east-syria-ill-take-that-yemeni-port.html#more
When they conquered Jerusalem the Crusaders went on the Mother of all Mass Slaughter Sprees.
They were recorded as being ankle deep in blood – not figuratively but literally.
Not one of christianity’s finer moments.
Poroti,
That damn movie, giving Donald Trump ideas! 😀
Boerwar
One of the Monty Python chaps did a serious series on the Crusades and during one episode recounted a story about them surrounding some town that they thought was muslim and demanded surrender. Surrender not forthcoming it was rape , pillage and slaughter in the traditional xtian manner. Shame it was actually an xtian town and spoke some obscure language.
The PM responds to Qld PM’s character assessment.
Should be fun in Townsville tomorrow.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/30/malcolm-turnbull-hits-back-at-palaszczuk-after-bitter-personal-attack
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/04/26/injured-manus-asylum-seeker-to-be-deported-despite-medical-conce_a_22056055/
SK
The Serbian ‘connection’- From the Wiki entry on Belgrade:
How is Palaszczuk’s observations about Turnbull’s prime ministership bitter and personal? Not one thing she said about his leadership, outside the comment that he is a worse PM than Abbott, is false. And her comparison with Abbott is based on her experiences dealing with them as PMs to her Premier.
lizzie @ #550 Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 12:57 pm
That is exactly what I thought and commented on a day or so ago while admitting it was some time since I had dug through budget papers.
Morrison suddenly hyperventilating about it proves nothing other than his own ignorance and stupidity.
Booleanbach
Aden is a very useful port to have. Ask the Poms – They hung on to it for around 130 yrs until 1967.
‘fess
Are the Palaszczuk comments on Turnbull’s character recent or is it just the Courier Mail publishing this now because she is meeting with Mighty Mal tomorrow?
I’m Currently reading s book about Christians in 1000BC+ and witch hunting.
The book is called ‘The Witch Hunts’,
Christians and Churh are very bad to this day!
The Fourth Crusade ended in the sacking of Constantinople in 1204, and effectively caused the end of the Byzantine empire – it was all downhill from there – and was definitely Christian on Christian in nature (even though the Fourth Crusade was originally supposed to be attacking Egypt and retaking Jerusalem).
And some of the key reasons for the attack on Constantinople came from the Venetians who (a) didn’t want to attack Egypt as they had a healthy trading relationship with them, but (b) did want to depose Constantinople as being a major trading hub and competition for Venice, and (c) needed to recoup the expense of building their fleet when insufficient crusaders showed up and couldn’t pay the full amount.
A tragic, tawdry affair, full of the usual religion-as-politics and war-to-gain-commercial-advantage crapola.
CTar:
They are reported as having been said either today or yesterday. Here’s the Guardian on the issue:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/30/annastacia-palaszczuk-unleashes-on-pm-malcolm-turnbull-is-worse-than-tony-abbott
Well the book is about witch hunting, but focuses a lot on history politics, nobles, peasants, religions, etc.
confessions @ #611 Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 4:56 pm
Yes, she gives a reason for everything she says while Turnbull in his response fails to address her concerns.
bemused @ #612 Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 4:58 pm
Grog makes a similar point in this article on the Guardian site.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/30/morrisons-good-debt-bad-debt-story-makes-sense-but-beware-the-twist
CTar,
The statements by The Queensland premier were reported firstly in the Sunday Mail here in Brisbane this morning. She then doubled up later today in a presser.
She is absolutely correct of course in her character assessment of Turnbull but with a state election in the pipeline by early next year the optics of a battle with the federal government and standing up for Queenslanders does not hurt.
The response by Turnbull once again shows his lack of political nous. He should have simply made no comment or just brushed it off but he sent Dutton out first and then had his own rant in a press statement this afternoon. Fuel to the fire.
Cheers.
Some LNP defend Abbott’s right to have an opinion and say it publicly.
I don’t think we’d be so irritated with him if we thought he was worth listening to. A wide elder statesman can be of benefit to a country. But a hopeless ex-PM still peddling the same negative policies? Not so much.
zoidlord @ #615 Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 5:09 pm
1000BC?
I didn’t realise they had Christians back then. 😮
wide = wise. 🙁
Barney:
Like many arrogant know-it-all people, Turnbull doesn’t process criticism very well.
Bw
When Allenby entered Jerusalem in WW1 was the first time Christians had controlled the city for centuries. He was smart about – he entered on foot via the Jaffa Gate and immediately made sure the population understood they weren’t there to pillage the place by putting guards around the religious ‘spots’ of all 3 predominant religions.
@Barney In Go Dau
Sorry typo,
Year 1000,1100,1200 +
Allenby – one of WWI’s better generals.
1000 AD
Witch hunts have degenerated into tawdry Trolls waging mindless Troll Storms against their online victims du jour – generally under the spiritual leadership as such luminaries of Western Civilization as Joyce, Bishop, Abbott and Turnbull.
Witch hunts were much better fun when you went round and caught some possible real witches and put them to the various real world tests. I assume that early witch hunters and witch testers were proto rabid right wingers:
http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/7-bizarre-witch-trial-tests
Goodness
Pies are 29 pts up with 7 minutes to go.
Buckley is safe for another week.
Bw
He certainly got the best publicity. He and Haig were totally at odds. Lloyd George decided it was best to separate them so Haig got continental Europe ans Allenby got the Middle East – by far the better end of the deal where he could make ‘dashing’ maneuvers on horseback over large distances while Haig’s lot were stuck in mud in the trenches.
The irony is not lost on me that on the day Abbott was reported to be scheduled to give an ‘enlightenment speech’ to WA Liberal party, PB offering up pre-Enlightenment era fodder such as witch trials, the crusades and books about life in 1000AD.
I’m no fan of “Sixty Minutes” but tonight they are doing a piece on the KKK and other white hate groups in the US. Apparently these characters have been emboldened by Trump’s rise to power. Without prompting from the TV crew, some also mentioned Hanson as a person they admire.
CTaR1
Yep. And so we were saved from having Allenby Park instead of Haig Park.
confessions @ #633 Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 5:50 pm
The current discussion is sourced from that very speech you mention. 🙂
Shorten might say the same thing about Turnbull after the latter’s personal attacks on him:
Barney:
LOL!
barney in go dau @ #623 Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 5:18 pm
barney in go dau @ #623 Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 5:18 pm
Planet Zoid is in another dimension of time and space. 😀
The Government’s tongue-lashing of Westpac – slavishly echoed as usual by the Murdochcracy – lays bare the fundamental hypocrisy of Australian neoliberalism for all the world to see.
Having spent decades arguing that people in poverty needed to be further stigmatised, that public services (healthcare, education, infrastructure etc.) needed to be cut to the bone and/or privatised, that Government Is Bad and the Market Is God, what are they doing now?
After finding out that no private-sector bank will touch an economically non-viable coalmine, they’re lashing out at it for being “anti-Australian” and saying they’ll use public money to back it instead!
So much for their erstwhile worship of the gilded (solid gold’s way, WAY too expensive!) calf that is Free Market Fundamentalism.
Bw – And there I was thinking the park was named after a chocolate frog.
‘fess / Doyley
Tks re’ the timing of Palaszczuk’s comments on Turnbull.
PhoenixRed
Catching up on earlier posts. I am far from Twitter expert. I don’t even have a Twitter account. Lol! But I do my best to sus out those who may have some real knowledge of what is going on. Fingers crossed, the treasonous traitors will be dealt with sooner than later, before too much damage is done to us all!!
The adults are back in charge over here.
– See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/state/2017/04/30/mcgowan-outlines-perth-public-transport-plan.html#sthash.VS14P6Bl.dpuf
Don’t have to be dumb to make it personal bemused only losers are like that.
CTar:
Interestingly the Guardian article reports Turnbull “took to facebook” to respond to Palaszczuk. But his official facebook page shows nothing posted since Friday.
https://www.facebook.com/malcolmturnbull/
Trump or LNP, it doesn’t matter, what does matter is history is being burned, just like nazi book burning:
https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/29/epa-pulls-climate-science-web-pages/
“The Washington Post notes that the EPA has pulled a nearly 20-year-old page explaining the fundamentals of climate change and how it affects the US. While updates to the site were frozen and closely scrutinized under President George W. Bush’s administration, his White House was still content to leave the page running — clearly, even that was too much under the new presidency.”.
Apparently Turnbull posted a Queensland only post. He probably used facebook feature to target only Queenslanders.
‘fess
Maybe he did one of his habitual 180’s and deleted it. {grin}