It’s been a quiet week for polling, with the major pollsters holding their fire ahead of the budget and leaving the field vacant for the regularly weekly Essential Research and Morgan. With each adhering closely to the trend, there are only minor shifts in this week’s aggregated poll result on voting intention (as displayed on the sidebar). The seat projection has nudged two seats in Labor’s favour, one of which it owes to a 3.1% two-party preferred adjustment that was made to the Tasmanian result last week. That left Labor just shy of a second Tasmanian seat, which a 0.3% shift this week on the national result has helped push them over. The other Labor gain comes off the New South Wales total.
Just like to recommend a BBC drama series called “The Village” which is set in the north of England over the years of WW1. I was watching on iPlayer, but got the final two in the six part series via torrent. Absolutely brilliant. The next series for release next year will cover the 1920s. The writer Peter Moffat wants to make 42 episodes eventually, covering the 20th Century.
nearly all the lincs here this morning
have now been sent to family face book
my say
its from reachtel , i dont know who is commissioning them
it seems they are desperate to get a poll which favours the coalition
in the last 4 weeks they have polled the northern tablelands area of new england 3 times now
And i cant see this latest polling by reachtel will give them the news they are desperate for
Northern tablelands is not an pro coalition area
thank u sohar
I am so interested in that time
I have done research in the fabrics of that time and before
and then found the fabric to quilt.
lace is on the way back to and I love some of the
quotes in the jane austen books about lace and quilts
I think I must of lived in that time
lol before
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01s5gkw
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rx1cv
so can u watch it from this site
Unbelievable. ABC24 asks Kroger about the $400m costings error by the coalition as if the matter is contested!
The reality is the coalition have counted as a saving an item which is no longer in the budget!
My Say, not a lot of pretty things in The Village, very austere, although the dysfunctional family that inhabit the Lord’s manor do have some pretty things. Essentially a social and political history of the period as told through the eyes of the oldest man in current day Britain. Maxine Peake and John Simm are some of the main actors. Downton Abbey, it ain’t – thankfully.
[What followed was extraordinary radio, during which Jones harangued Hockey for subsidising wind and solar power, attacked the entire Medicare system as “unaffordable” and abused the shadow treasurer for not agreeing to his suggestion that Indonesia take Australian cattle in lieu of foreign aid money.
He embarrassed Hockey over his recent weight loss, due to stomach stapling surgery, and said he hoped the doctors hadn’t taken his spine out during the operation. He demanded Hockey answer why we “feed asylum seekers but not farmers and cattle”.
The broadcaster also fired off plenty of unsolicited advice. ”You’ve got to reduce the debt! That’s the point! You have to reduce the debt!” Jones counselled, shrilly.
And later: “Success is about keeping things simple … $190 billion budget accumulated debt. You are going to have to reduce that.”
The interview was extraordinary not because of Jones’ rude bombast, or his insistence that a future Coalition government abandon “this carbon dioxide global warming hoax”, or even the impertinent way he referred to the shadow treasurer’s personal wealth (“He’s a man of means this bloke. He’s a rich treasurer to be.” Hockey laughed nervously.)
It was amazing because of the way Hockey took it. He let Jones chase him around the microphone like a schoolyard bully.
The shadow treasurer remained silent while Jones compared asylum seekers to cows – although in fact it was not a straight comparison, because Jones was contending the nourishment of asylum seekers should actually come second to feeding “our” cattle (always amazing how cows assume Australian nationality whenever people wish to make a political point about them).]
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/joe-goes-into-bat-and-is-hit-with-a-jones-bouncer-20130517-2jrlo.html#ixzz2TbIDmxhA
Can anyone find the transcript? I can’t.
Good Morning
Kroger just outlined the most believable reason for Abbott to do nothing on the GST.
He argues it is not in Abbott’s political interest.
This sort of image shows the solution to the ALP’s problem in getting voters to listen. It would have been a perfect image if the photographer didn’t get Fiona Scott partly blocking Albo out of the camera, but oh well
http://t.co/aBBpQD1q7a
spur212
the coalition needs to get out of 2010 mode, oh wait it can’t it wants to back further like to the howard golden years of big spending and lies
If I appointed @randlight as my Twitter editor, I would still get the good stuff and cut the 90% of crap.
Tweets like this make it worthwhile to be on twitter 🙂
Here is the audio.
http://www.2gb.com/audioplayer/9080
[This sort of image shows the solution to the ALP’s problem in getting voters to listen. It would have been a perfect image if the photographer didn’t get Fiona Scott partly blocking Albo out of the camera, but oh well
http://t.co/aBBpQD1q7a%5D
I see it!
It’s the Parliamentary Annexe, right?
[
The broadcaster (Jones) also fired off plenty of unsolicited advice at Hockey. ”You’ve got to reduce the debt! That’s the point! You have to reduce the debt!” Jones counselled, shrilly]
Never thought I’d ever say this, but it will be interesting to hear what Jones has to say when he realises Abbott and Hockey, despite their rhetoric, are actually INCREASING debt with their policies.
mari:
Chris Hadfield’s photo of the day.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=604831299534611&set=a.157475407603538.32702.151680104849735&type=1&theater
The HoJo interview with Jones is incredible. Jones sounds deranged and unhinged. “Carbon dioxide tax”. Honestly, is he usually like this?
http://www.2gb.com/audioplayer/9080
This in the Australian
[Liberals’ plan to dismantle carbon laws
GRAHAM LLOYD, ENVIRONMENT EDITOR
May 18, 2013 12:00AM
TONY Abbott would prepare for a double-dissolution election within five months of taking office if parliament blocked the repeal of the carbon tax, under a 12-month action blueprint to transform the nation’s environmental laws.
A working draft of the plan, obtained by The Weekend Australian and confirmed by opposition environment spokesman Greg Hunt, sets key dates to merge federal departments, introduce a direct action plan to offset or reduce carbon dioxide emissions and confirms details of a 35-year Great Barrier Reef protection strategy.]
Its paywalled so to read more and give Murdoch the click you know the Google trick.
Another disaster from tax-avoidance schemes dreamt up by the city
[UNTENDED timber plantations spread in southeastern Australia have been labelled an environmental disaster by rural communities.
They are seeking Victorian Government help to deal with the lots’ feral animals, weeds, fallen fences and fire risks.
The massive blue gum plantations are the legacy of the collapsed managed investment schemes from the past decade.
They are estimated to cover almost half a million hectares and straddle the Victorian-South Australian border on once-productive farmland.
“It is a disaster on so many levels,” Landcare leader, fire brigade captain and Coleraine district farmer Peter Wettenhall said.
“We’ve lost families, we’ve lost good farmers and we’ve been left with a stinking mess.”
Other corporate investors now control the private and leased plantations planted as tax-avoidance schemes.]
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2013/05/17/570073_national-news.html
Jones: ‘Why are we feeding asylum seekers and not cattle and farmers?’
This man is deranged.
@Schtang: Windsor to retain his seat Of New England (pesky polls put him on 49% primary & pref put him at 58%) http://t.co/SX3WYUfDkN #auspol
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/abbotts-baby-bonus-in-disguise-20130517-2jrmf.html
Has this been posted yet?
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/money/voters-back-ndis-and-gonski-reforms-according-to-exclusive-auspoll-for-news-limited/story-fni0cqcs-1226645551106
Some polling from Auspoll, issues post budget in today’s Murdoch tabloids. Probably voting intention tomorrow.
Anyone know about this crowd, methodology?
Guytuar
That OO article by Graham Lloyd sets a new low in factual errors. Not sure if it is deliberate lies, or gross incompetence and indolence – I suspect the latter.
[lizzie
Posted Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 9:12 am | Permalink
rummel: “The most scary thing possible this year is another term of a Gillard Government.”
I know from previous discussions that you don’t agree with pricing carbon and you have never shown any real interest in environmental degradation, therefore I don’t think you understand how dangerous an LNP government will be. Then add their attitude to the underprivileged, the sick, the old …
I despair when I think of how many fools there are who will blindly vote for LNP.]
Yes, rummel can be very disappointing at times. Unlike some of the right wing fools that have infested this site lately, he seems to have some genuine decency about him. But it seems to disappear whenever he is talking about JG.
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Socrates]
Thanks Socrates…very interesting, though not specially flattering for Australia. If I’m reading them correctly, the graphs suggest that tax and transfer payments in Australia tend to have a substantial effect on the reduction of poverty and income inequality, but that Australia is nevertheless relatively unequal compared with many other OECD states.
In spite of the effects of transfer payments, about 15% of the Australian population still have incomes that are at least 50% less than median incomes – that is, they are in households with incomes of around $24-25,000 pa
They also show that:
declines in disposable incomes and relative poverty are accentuated with age, suggesting that our retirement income system is really failing to adequately provide for the population;
over time – from 1995 to 2010 – income inequality in general has increased across the OECD, as it also did in Australia;
there is a very wide divergence between countries with respect to equality/inequality;
in the years immediately preceding 2010, presumably because of the fallout from the GFC, inequality increased in many countries, including European countries that otherwise show greater income equality.
zoid,
That is the point. I don’t have to search for Abbott’s speech. On the ABC website is is right under my nose. I can’t see the Swan speech anywhere.
Here is the page. Have I missed something.
I am in bed with the flu and a damned headache, so I might be mistaken.
http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/news
sprocket
Well in a rare defence of an Australian Journalist he did confirm all this with Hunt. So the report could still be 100% accurate.
Thanks Confessions He is so good and it gives me goosebumps when I see our lovely planet as it is at the moment!!!
@Puff/2428
Ah now I get ya, that’s a warrant for a complaint to the ABC.
Guytuar
I don’t think you can blame Greg Hunt for saying the last DD was in 1975, and a DD would be allowed before the new Senate came in in July 2014. This is pure indolence on the “journalists” behalf.
[rummel
Posted Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 8:51 am | Permalink
The most scary thing posible this year is another term of a Gillard Government. So lets keep Labor scare campaigns in perpective.]
Actually from what briefly has been saying I think Abbott is about to be handed the poisoned chalice. That’s what you should really be scared about.
sohar
it the life style that interests me
the reason I mentioned the quilts is that the poorer woman of
that time, used fabric that had been left over from clothing, for their quits and the quilt was then stuffed with feathers.
for beds
, so u get a real feel of what they wore the woman that is,
I don’t think we realise that the cotton fabric then had
lovely designs , but the quality was different.
sohar
it the life style that interests me
the reason I mentioned the quilts is that the poorer woman of
that time, used fabric that had been left over from clothing, for their quits and the quilt was then stuffed with feathers.
for beds
, so u get a real feel of what they wore the woman that is,
I don’t think we realise that the cotton fabric then had
lovely designs , but the quality was different.
darn
I am comning to the point with all I have read
about abbott and the errors that sen.wong picled
up and the taking of peoples livliehoods and supper
voters are not that silly
the other thing pointed out this morning is
that a poll showed
that well over 50 percent like the ndis gonski
and I did read 78 percent for the nbn
but will we see this reflected in the polls
lol lets all laugh out loud
Re the AFR article on New England. No detail on this part of the survey:
[“A sample that concentrated in three western Sydney seats, which was extended to all of the seats in the area, showed that Labor would at best achieve a 44 per cent two-party preferred result.
That means every Labor seat in western Sydney would be won by the Coalition.”]
I still think the Gillard government should still push on with getting the media to follow their own code of ethics
which is to report fairly , accurate , and unbiased
just check out the ABC main page. Is there a link to Swan’s speech? Whose photo is prominent? The only way to find the budget speech by Swan ids through a deliberate word search.
http://www.abc.net.au/
I can’t find it in Iview unless I use the A-Z function. Now either I am particularly clumsy on their site this morning, or the ABC lib-plants are doing their usual.
http://www.abc.net.au/
jaundiced view @ 2437
that polling is strange for western sydney , if its only done in 3 seats how can be actually factual
If you believe all of Abbott’s lies you would believe any of Abbott’s lies.
He says he will create 2,000,000 jobs.
C02 is weightless.
Whyalla will be destroyed.
The difficulty with Abbott is to know WHEN he is lying.
No GST increase?
All the boats turned back or stopped?
Electricity prices will go down?
Gas prices will go down?
You will be better off because the COL will be forced down?
Sometimes it is a matter of interpretation.
For example when Abbott promises not to forget the forgotten families, is that good or bad?
Is there any family he has not forgotten to screw by reducing their superannuation nest egg by tens of thousands of dollars?
$400,000,000 less here, and $400,000,000 less there, and pretty soon the Liberals will have a real budget emergency on their hands.
How many Western Sydney suburbs are they?
but breifley
we both get 500 plus a fortnight
we have supper we down load, every fortnight that pays
private health insurance,
this week we paid the outstanding bills and few other items like new plants for a hedge
must say I did not grocery shop though this fortnight
except for diary products so that will be quite big
this coming, gov,pay as we call it
if abbot gets in and pensions will not incremented, it
well over time we would be very badly off,
‘and then more supper would be used
but a lot less spending I have explained this
to most people I purchase from and from a couple of aust
on line fabric shops
its just not going to affect us but every one
for example I bought my grandsons winter school uniform,
fortnight before last, so that helped the family
I would not be able to do that,
the man is incompetent in realising that every one needs to spend to keep every one in jobs
jv
That poll will make you happy, then. Why don’t you put a smiley face on the end the post?
jaundiced view
Every poll publicly available shows pretty much the same thing. I’m not sure the internal stuff (real or not) will tell us anything we don’t already know. Voter sentiment is well and truly entrenched and it ain’t coming back without a community exorcism
do we know the name of the three
seats Maguire are they liberal strong hold
zoidlord
Posted Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 11:33 am | PERMALINK
How many Western Sydney suburbs are they?
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not quite sure 12 or 13 i think , may be wrong though
for example
my area is a labor stong hold
I rang a wrong number yesterday that started off with the
correct number for this area
so I started taling to the lady
she voted labor
now there u go.
so you get what you want I suppose
The ‘once productive farmland now under trees’ schtick always gets me.
The land is still productive. It’s growing trees.
The land wasn’t stolen, or compulsorily acquired. It was bought on the open market. Its value – as productive land, as farmland, whatever – was determined by the price a buyer was willing to pay for it.
The buyer determines that price by the return they expect to get on their investment.
If a buyer decides that ‘once productive farmland’ is going to give them a better return as a tree plantation, that’s saying that (a) either it wasn’t very productive farmland or (b) yes it was, but trees are even more productive.
What’s more, a buyer who decides to buy land to produce trees, on the basis that trees provide a better return than the purposes the land is currently being used for, at the very least maintains the value of the land around them – meaning other farmers can either sell their land at the same or higher prices, or have more equity to borrow against.
If producing trees is truly providing a better return than farming, then land being bought for trees will actually drive up the value of surrounding farms, with even more benefits for the neighbouring farmers.
Many a farmer owes their continued existent (post drought) to the fact that their land prices were kept ‘artificially’ high, due to the demand for plantations – thus enabling them to borrow enough money to keep their farms going despite the drought or (ironically) giving them a better payout than expected if they decided they did have to sell.
Studies have shown that a properly maintained plantation actually provides more jobs than an average farm. Of course, a neglected one may not – but then, a neglected farm isn’t that great, either.