It’s been a quiet week for polling, with the major pollsters holding their fire ahead of the budget and leaving the field vacant for the regularly weekly Essential Research and Morgan. With each adhering closely to the trend, there are only minor shifts in this week’s aggregated poll result on voting intention (as displayed on the sidebar). The seat projection has nudged two seats in Labor’s favour, one of which it owes to a 3.1% two-party preferred adjustment that was made to the Tasmanian result last week. That left Labor just shy of a second Tasmanian seat, which a 0.3% shift this week on the national result has helped push them over. The other Labor gain comes off the New South Wales total.
my say
i wouldnt be surprise if the seats polled were the pro coalition ones
Well this is as I said a while back.
The GFC round 2 would be excuse for Abbott to do all sorts of things through ‘necessity’ yet you guys are happy to lose with Gillard knowing what you are inflicting on Aust. (though I have little confidence Gillard would be much different to Abbott in abusing the GFC ‘opportunity’ ..
@TP/2452
Except that Abbott will have an excuse like Newman has to sell sell sell.
The irony is by focusing on the base from the beginning (around July 2010 if my memory serves me correctly), it’s as if the ALP handed the Coalition victory and now the whole electoral game has turned into how far can the Coalition eat into the base.
It’s like the ALP have turned the whole notion of “winning the base” into paddling upstream.
Boerwar
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He says he will create 2,000,000 job
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that’s a tea party line to boewar lets post the question HOW WILL U DO THAT TONY.
C02 is weightless.
=Whyalla will be destroyed.
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ITS STILL STANDNG TONY
No GST increase?
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O REALLT mr abbott so mr hewson what was he talking about then he is on yours
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All the boats turned back or stopped?
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the navy are not happy we have read,
Indonesia are not happyl
is he going to use one of jet ski with a rope
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Electricity prices will go down?
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what when he winds back the carbon price that has already cut emissions, its products like renew ables
solar panel that will reduce power prces but tony you are cutting the department that handles this
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Gas prices will go down?
You will be better off because the COL will be forced down?
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Sometimes it is a matter of interpretation.
For example when Abbot
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yes and the interpretation his minders put on it to
lizzie
That article is NIMBY writ large.
The Nationals have always been against planting trees on farmland. It is why the DAP has been forced to specify ‘public land’ for its tree planting component.
The party political reason is fairly obvious: areas planted to trees support a smaller rural population than do other land uses. One reason is that that the per annum labor per hectare component is far less for farm plantations than, say, dairying. The other reason is that the range of skills, support services including chemicals and fertilizers, required to maintain forests is much less than that of active agricultural land uses.
This impacts socially and economically on small towns and regional centres. Naturally the citizens in the latter don’t like the farm forestry plantations because it reduces their economic options.
IMHO, apart from the party political issues (the Nats want as many rural and regional voters as possible) the social and economic impact on regional areas are, IMHO, reasonable policy considerations.
So is the amount of carbon content sequestered by the plantations, given that AGW is the only first order policy issue that we face.
The net outcome of the Nationals’ influence on Coalition policies is that will be that the DAP trees will be planted in less than optimal soils and rainfall belts which are mostly occupied by farmers. The trees will therefore sequester carbon more slowly than would otherwise be the case.
In short, the taxpayer will very likely be paying for a slower, and possibly reduced, carbon sequestration outcome because the Nationals oppose tree planting in farmland.
In terms of the nominated set of issues in the article: feral animals, weeds and the like, there is nothing stopping shire councils from enacting bylaws that putting the onus on land owners to manage weeds and ferals and fining them if they do not. There are plenty of these sorts of enforcement frameworks in place already.
TP
‘…you guys are happy…’
Not me. I am not happy that Abbott is going to get in, rip funds out of forgotten families and promote extinctions and give AGW a boost by getting rid of our market-responsive carbon trading system.
Darn
JG knifed the favourite (and only?) Labor politician he supported.
I see that the RSPCA is supporting cattle grazing in national parks in order to stop cruelty to animals.
They must be thick.
What happens when you put cattle in national parks is that they compete with the existing herbivores in national parks.
When the cattle have finished with the tucker so have the other herbivores which will then starve to death in a cruel fashion.
I repeat. The RSPCA must be thick.
another reason why joyce’s career is finish
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/joyce-hits-out-over-windsors-1m-win/story-fnhi8df6-1226645634519
Mr Windsor’s rival for his New England electorate, Barnaby Joyce, said the money being funnelled into the seat showed the independent MP was compromised. “I don’t think that many people believe that you can prostitute your nation for partisan objectives,” Senator Joyce told The Weekend Australian.
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some people are very stupid,, they don’t vote for policies
you would think a family man would love is family enough
to vote what was good for the family.
its something I cannot come to grips with
voting against the best interests
of your own family
weird but also selfish
On election day
media biased opinion polls are going to make the coalition supporters and those who think the coalition will win because the media opinion polls say so
have egg on their faces
On the topic of cruelty, the graziers are trying to offload their responsibilities on the rest of the community.
If you have overstocked going into a drought there are only four options:
(1) buy more tucker
(2) sell stock
(3) shoot stock
(4) let them die of starvation.
Traditionally, in Australia, tens of millions of animals have died by way of (4). IMHO, if death is the only option, the animal cruelty laws mean that the graziers have the legal responsibility to shoot their stock.
Now the graziers have come up with a new one to address the issue of their overstocking going into a drought:
(4) blame Labor
(5) taxpayer buys the stock to give to a third party.
Nationals Socialists doing their very worst public policy stuff.
While they are figuring all this out they might ask their Western Australian wheat belt colleagues WTF?
For several years now I have been posting that Australian farmers would be among the first AGW refugees. Wheatbelt farmers are walking off their farms. Those remaining have the begging bowl out for taxpayer’s funds. The drought is going to force some Queensland graziers off the land? They want the taxpayer to spend $100 million to bail them out.
What is the National’s solution for AGW? Taxpayer subsidies.
PM Abbott fully endorsed and supported by the Labor party. Hard to say that isn’t fact when Labor keep their ONLY chance of victory hidden away …. because …. he is a threat to the faction’s power.
Because of this Labor will get what they deserve. But what of Aust ? Well the factions care not one jot about that.
my say, all I know is that sometimes people are simple and sometimes they are complicated :D.
I may be wrong as I am usually doing other stuff on sat.
isn’t this place on .sat full of liberals and trolls
yelling at us.
I have noticed
when they think abbott and libs,, have an error of judgement
…. they don’t appear
so I was extremely worried about what abbott said
on Thursday night
but now I am thinking with the small things of criticism I am seeing in the press
and there should be more, I am thinking people are ‘
starting to think
[2444
my say
but breifley
we both get 500 plus a fortnight
we have supper we down load, every fortnight that pays
private health insurance..]
my say, I know what you’re talking about. The website linked by Socrates gives some graphs that illustrate income inequality in the OECD economies. They make interesting viewing.
What they really suggest is that income distribution in Australia is not at all equal, and that transfers by Government play a large part in reducing the poverty that would otherwise result from inequality. Even so, income distribution in Australia could be more equal and more should obviously be done to improve retirement incomes because incomes become steadily lower the older people become.
Like you, I agree we should all be worried about the election of an LNP government because, among other things, they are not interested in redressing equality or alleviating poverty and their policies with respect to the aged actually make inequality worse.
only people
who like seeing other people hurt
would be excited about an abbott gov,
@2465: frequently the same people 😛
spur
if peddling to the base means delivering on carbon pricing, the NDIS, the NBN, Gonski, etc, then I’m all for it.
Sounds like a base worth peddling to, if that’s their values.
zoomster
The base is 38% primary vote. You don’t win (really win, not hung parliament, narrow/noble defeat win) with the base.
It’s not the policies, it’s the values and the rheotic. The same policies could have been framed into a winning position
ugh rhetoric
spur212
under 45% the coalition will not win
labor 38%
retain government
Fighting electorally against the Coalition to win your own people. You have to be really politically stupid to think that’s a good outcome!
spur212
2010 the coalition only gain ground was in old
2013 they are likely to lose ground in old
and they could pick up ground in new
it wont be enough
qld
sorry
nsw sorry
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/5/17/politics/kgb-shadow-treasurer-joe-hockey?utm_source=exact&utm_medium=email&utm_content=295439&utm_campaign=kgb&modapt=
Hockey goes very close to conceding they don’t know what they are going to do should they win the election. Not only have the LNP clearly accepted all of Labor’s budget measures, Hockey seems to comprehend that this is just the beginning. Incredibly, he is saying they will put off to a second term any serious attempts to refashion the tax system.
As a politician, Joe Hockey would make a good hair-dresser. He can talk about nothing much for hours on end.
@spur212/2474
So it’s about each other and not about policies?
I should give my dad a pad on the back, he thinks they are only in it for themselves….. And he is right.
What the ALP really needs is another clever metaphor for how doomed it is. There’s one out there that has the emotional impact we need, I know it…
Luckily our best blog commenters are working on it.
What happened to the Aussie dollar? It’s down to US$0.94.
I should clarify that’s the NAB exchange rate. It was US$0.99 last week.
@Dio
Abbott crashing the joint budget reply.
Good Afternoon,
Another beautiful day in Labors Terra Nullius Migration Free Zone.
briefly
‘Incredibly, he (Hockey) is saying they will put off to a second term any serious attempts to refashion the tax system.’
Nah. He is just joking.
That is Liberal Speak for: ‘We will broaden the GST base and increase the GST percentage as soon as we figure out how to persuade forgotten families that this will be good because it means that we can give the Rhineharts of the world better tax breaks.’
@MikeSeccombe: Tony Abbott has declared a “budget emergency”in the world’s richest country. It’s bizarre. http://t.co/rPmFzUSPjJ
Diogs,
The dollar has been defying gravity for months. It’s the reason why their is a shortfall on tax receipts. Haven’t you been listening?
I suppose you’ve been so pre occupied with your “Guvment lying” mantra to understand what has been happening.
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/there-is-a-better-way-to-help-mothers-return-to-paid-work-20130517-2js0z.html#ixzz2Tb40oi4V
Tony Abbott is serious about wanting to boost women’s workforce participation, there are more effective and less expensive ways to do it than via his paid parental leave scheme, which has been costed at $5 billion a year by the Parliamentary Budget Office.
”Paid parental leave is an important economic reform, very important economic reform, that will boost participation and productivity,” the Opposition Leader said this week.
Actually, Mr Abbott, no it won’t. Or at least not nearly as much as other measures, ones that are needed by women much more and for far longer than the first six months after the birth of their babies.
I am talking about childcare.
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There is plenty of high-calibre research on the reasons – and the remedies – for women failing to return to work after they have babies. For instance, Game-changers: Economic reform priorities for Australia
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/there-is-a-better-way-to-help-mothers-return-to-paid-work-20130517-2js0z.html#ixzz2Tbmf0hYL
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/18/business/energy-environment/mountain-of-petroleum-coke-from-oil-sands-rises-in-detroit.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
Petroleum coke, a waste byproduct of refining oil sands oil, is piling up along the Detroit River.
[WINDSOR, Ontario — Assumption Park gives residents of this city lovely views of the Ambassador Bridge and the Detroit skyline. Lately they’ve been treated to another sight: a three-story pile of petroleum coke covering an entire city block on the other side of the Detroit River.
Detroit’s ever-growing black mountain is the unloved, unwanted and long overlooked byproduct of Canada’s oil sands boom.
And no one knows quite what to do about it, except Koch Carbon, which owns it.
The company is controlled by Charles and David Koch, wealthy industrialists who back a number of conservative and libertarian causes including activist groups that challenge the science behind climate change. The company sells the high-sulfur, high-carbon waste, usually overseas, where it is burned as fuel.]
STM
I was wondering why the Liberal Hacks were spending so much time and energy promoting animal cruelty to Australian cattle in Indonesia.
Indeed, I understand that Abbott is going to apologize to Indonesia for the way in which they treated Australian cattle cruelly.
Now it has become clear. The Liberals extinctionists want national parks to act as drought reserve fodder banks which they will give away to graziers who have clearly misread the impacts of AGW and are over-stocked to buggery going into a drought.
And it is about Abbott’s forgotten families. Abbott has reduced the retirement nest egg of millions of forgotten families so that the Liberals can use the money to give free beef to Indonesians.
Win win win for the Liberals: gouge the forgotten families, promote extinction and subsidize the wealthy.
Liberals will abolish MRRT for digging up our natural resources but will raise the GST.
PRRT – MRRT what is the difference? Companies “paying” the MRRT contribute to the Liberal Party and have LOTO in their hip pocket
LOTO – lotto – both take lots of money from many and give to a few
I am wondering
is this ppl all about closing childcare centres [
especially not for profit]
woman who can well afford childcare
will be giving thousand and thousands of dollars to stay
home, so they will not be contributing to the childcare
centre for some time.
so less money in the sector and less wages for the people
who work in the sector, and less positions
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just wondering
Btw there are two distinctive images of Abbott. One is kneeling next to Murdoch who is sitting down, and the other is Reinhart either talking into Abbott’s ear, or the other way around.
Social medial should be inundated with those images on a daily basis.
http://powerhouse.theglobalmail.org/?utm_source=Custom+sidebar&utm_medium=Homepage&utm_campaign=Custom+sidebar
If the Government’s approach to the 2013 Budget – spending cuts, tax rises and few electoral sweeteners in an election year – was unorthodox, the Opposition’s response to it was bizarre.
Opposition leader Tony Abbott declared many of the major savings measures in the Budget “objectionable”. Then he said he would keep all of them.
Abbott’s Thursday night parliamentary reply to Tuesday’s budget was long on rhetoric and contained more than a smattering of policy announcements, but was predictably lacking in detail on costings.
It was always expected that Abbott would hold back on telling the country
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Maybe this might get a few of the pseudo Libs thinking.
https://twitter.com/TheAviator1992/status/335310787591680001/photo/1
If you’re interested in the characters of sociopaths, this is a “long read” from the Age.
http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/hiding-in-plain-sight-20130509-2ja9p.html
This just further evidences the deception perpetrated on the Australian people by LOTO
Australia’s AAA rating remains unchanged despite the federal government handing down an $18 billion deficit.
The world’s two largest ratings agencies have retained Australia’s AAA rating due to the nation’s low public debt and prudent fiscal policy in the medium term.
In a statement, Moody’s said the outlook for Australia remained strong as the projected budget deficits were only a small percentage of GDP.
Although the government budget is now forecast to remain in deficit through the 2014-15 fiscal year, the projected deficits are relatively small as a percentage of GDP,’’ Moody’s said.
‘‘As a result, the ratio of government debt to GDP will rise only marginally, and Australia will remain among the few AAA-rated sovereign debt issuers that have low debt levels.’’
Thanks for the link Mari
Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/business/federal-budget/aaa-despite-18b-deficit-20130514-2jkwa.html#ixzz2TbovHN3B
victoria
It’s a shame most people don’t see those images – or perhaps they don’t understand the significance.
Another excellent piece from Paul Krugman about why the fetish for austerity is a crock.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/jun/06/how-case-austerity-has-crumbled/?pagination=false&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer62c7f