The latest Morgan face-to-face poll, combining results from the previous two weekends, is a weak result for Labor as this series goes, with the Coalition maintaining their 50.5-49.5 lead from the poll of March 12-13. The primary vote figures likewise record little change: Labor down half a point to 37.5 per cent, the Coalition down one point to 43.5 per cent and the Greens up half a point to 12 per cent. As always, the two-party figure I have chosen to lead with is the “preferences distributed by how electors voted at the 2010 election” result rather than the “preferences distributed by how electors say they will vote” figure preferred by Morgan (51-49 to the Coalition in this case), and as always the margin of error (2.3 per cent from a sample of 1819) tells you less than this series’ evident bias to Labor.
UPDATE: Essential Research has the Coalition’s two-party lead up from 52-48 to 53-47, from very slight changes in the primary vote: Labor down a point to 36 per cent, the Coalition and Greens steady on 46 per cent and 10 per cent.
Bishop stuck to the LNP’s bash Gillard over the Lie theme.
[And he is enjoying sticking it to the Prime Minister by what he is not saying.]
It was pretty obvious. As I said, where was Kevin Rudd the team player?
Quagmired in his own self importance, that’s where.
[he is enjoying sticking it to the Prime Minister by what he is not saying]
What isn’t he saying that could be seen as sticking it to JG?
Should be be gushing in his praise of her?
Boerwar @ 2434
I think it is best that the Libyan people sort it out for themselves. However, when one side is led by an erratic dictator and have the bulk of the weapons, it was justifiable for external forces to intervene to even things up and prevent the slaughter Gadaffi promised. I hope the rebels, with a bit of material support from outside, prevail.
By way of comparison, Iraq would have been better off if the Iraqi people had received the assistance they needed to topple Sadam after the first Gulf War.
where’s Ghost 🙁
connie, Ruddie had every right to call it as he did!
[FIRSTDOGONMOON | 50 seconds ago
Bob is on #lateline. How comforting]
[It was pretty obvious. As I said, where was Kevin Rudd the team player?
Quagmired in his own self importance, that’s where.]
raising a single digit to arbib and others. its a brutal game politics.
Boerwar…you have a personal interest in this conflict, I know not what it is…as I said
come clean if you are able or shut up…you and I will not stop it and you have been the only contributor to incessantly carry on about it. Damn it man there are human beings being killed on both sides, you seem to regard loss of life as no excuse for the International community to say NO..HEADS OF GOVT WILL NOT MURDER THEIR OWN PEOPLE TO RETAIN POWER…so I’m sorry Boerwar your lone support of the despot, no matter how you try to disguise it has been exposed…i find your support for the regime dispicable..I suspect you are waiting with excited breath for the Americans to be seen on the ground in Libya so you can say OMG these bloody Americans!!!!!
confessions
I have no idea if Shorten is or is not a competent minister. Even Jim Hacker was ‘competent’ as a minister. I reckon I could be a competent minister.
What I despise is his emptiness in philosophy, vision and policy like his cronies in charge, as with the shelving of the CPRS and embracing the Lindsay test on all the other issues. It is his influence in the party, apart form the grossly disgusting behaviour in association with Richard Pratt about which I know quite a bit. And no, it wasn’t ‘normal’ union/party politics.
are we likely to have the Newspoll figures tonight?
[I am seeing a PM getting a bit of revenge and thinking he has a chance of leading the ALP again!]
You wish.
I hope Gillard doesn’t own a cat
It’ll get a frightful kicking after KRudd’s performance tonight
Media is going to have a field day tomorrow
[LATIKAMBOURKE | 4 minutes ago
And that’s a 10/10 #QandA. And here’s to a HUGE news day tomorrow….. #standingovation
MFARNSWORTH | 5 minutes ago
Now, what can Bob Brown possibly say on #Lateline that could trump Kevin Rudd on #qanda?]
Bemused I don’t have that many Green mates, in fact I don’t have many mates that are engaged with politics at all. That’s my issue, it seems to me that the political message of a liberal, secular democracy is not cutting through to many these days and I am concerned that the majority of voters are unaware of exactly what could befall them if they vote or preference the “Liberal” party
cud chewer
The British had troops on the ground BEFORE the No Fly Zone was declared. Remember? The rebs ‘caught’ some of them! There would be ‘special operatives’ from half a dozen nations crawling all over Libya at the moment. They are probably shocked at just how militarily incompetent and ideologically suss the rebs really are. As I pointed out before the No Fly Zone was instituted, Libya probably has an issue with tribalism and this is probably helping Ghaddafi’s troops stick with him. (Remember, the war mongers assured us they would melt away?)
Having just figured out that the rebs are probably infested with Al Quaeda and the like, the warmongers are wary about arming them. They already armed the Taliban in Afghanistan. Ten years since we invaded Afghanistan, it turns out that arming rebs does not necessarily work too well either.
There are two persistent patterns here – lies and civilians paying the price for the lies.
I’m predicting something similar to Essential – about 53-47 Coalition.
Paul_J @ 2451
And what a great reaction she got from the studio audience 😀
[Bishop stuck to the LNP’s bash Gillard over the Lie theme.]
That’s all they’ve got. They can’t win a debate on any issue. They’ve broken even in debating AS but in just the last 2 months they have lost the debates on a flood levy and NBN. They avoid debating climate change except as a debate about taxation. They are a policy vacuum.
[Gary
Posted Monday, April 4, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Permalink
I am seeing a PM getting a bit of revenge and thinking he has a chance of leading the ALP again!
You wish.]
No, actually I don’t think he has a snowball’s chance in hell. I was just making the point Rudd is doing a “product differentiation” advertisement. No doubt he lacks the self doubt gene and actually thinks he could make a come back (ala Howie his hero)
[raising a single digit to arbib and others.]
Thank you. As I suspected, he’s playing his own game rather than looking out for the fortunes of the current govrt.
[but without the same vitriol directed to the other two]
Sorry, but that’s just crap
[Darn
Posted Monday, April 4, 2011 at 10:41 pm | Permalink
I’m predicting something similar to Essential – about 53-47 Coalition.]
52:48 to Coalition is my guess
2 obs
1 rudd is preparing for post politcs, beattie is apparently going to run for a fed qld seat say some rumours
2 fukushima is well fukued,
[confessions @ 2420
Where is Rudd the team player?
He comes across as an ego maniac, wanting to push his own barrow.
Must be something wrong with your TV – that is not what I am seeing.]
bemused – that is exactly what this house saw. Kev knew exactly what he was doing and he gave his sidekick, Bishop, every chance to exploit it.
He’s still got his thin skin tho – got all prissy and quivery around the mouth when one bloke challenged him.
Farnsworth has got rocks in his head SK – Julia’s got more spine. No mouth quivering for her when she gets rotten stuff thrown at her.
Let’s not forget who did Beazley in.
Q & A was entertaining enough but I feel a bit apprehensive about the kind of headlines and comments it’s likely to evoke from the muck rakers tomorrow.
confessions
do you feel that Rudd undermined the govt tonight?
There was no holding back from Rudd on Q&A. It’s clear he was told to shelve the CPRS back in April by the hollow ones, and he regrets caving in to them.
I found it amusing that Rudd said wtte that the decision was ‘back in April or May last year I think it was, from memory.’
I would suggest he knows to the day and the hour – if not the minute – when that decision was made, and can remember the colour of the ties (and the one brooch) of those present.
I loved it!
Rudd was brutally honest – very refreshing to see that from a politician! 🙂
Is any of this news to some of you?
Gillard, Swan, Arbib, others wanted the ETS to be dropped completely – Kevin’s meant to pretend that this didn’t happen?
Kevin Rudd played a blinder tonight. He said as much as he could without naming names. He answered every question openly. He talked about the politics within the ALP and he did not heap shit on the opposition. Unlike Julie who took every opportunity to play politics.
[52:48 to Coalition is my guess]
I would be happy with that at this stage.
[Dario
Posted Monday, April 4, 2011 at 10:42 pm | Permalink
but without the same vitriol directed to the other two
Sorry, but that’s just crap
]
Live under that Rock you accused bluegreen of living under.
I call it as I see it.
And something smells rotten in the state of Denmark.
Get real.
Rudd knows he has no chance of leading the Party again.
He told it as it was. It is better for him and for the Party to move on from the past!
…was wondering what had happened to you evan!
😉
Best question of the night was: “Why didn’t you tell us what you just told us when you had the chance?”
I think Rudd was overwhelmed at the time. He’d had some kind of nervous or other breakdown and just couldn’t set the record straight. He admitted tonight he was working so hard – without sleep – that the work became the end, rather than the policy. Just surviving the day assumed a greater importance than it needed to.
He should have levelled with the public and not let the media get away with the “He juist walked away from the ETS”. He knew. We knew it… that it was only deferred. What could have possessed him not to make this point exactly?
The only thing I can think of is that he fell apart and that it was the right call to remove the log jam and get on with governing the country. Sounds cruel, I know, but I can’t see any other alternative, then and now.
David
You do not appear to be actually reading what I have been saying. I have already made my personal interests quite clear. I don’t mind being the only contributor to carry on about the Libyan Half-Arsed War of 1973. I reckon someone has to. After all, we are told that our Government lead the world in getting the No Fly Zone instituted. We must have some responsibility for the consequences.
I don’t support Ghaddafi. I never have. I never will – unlike the members of the Broad Coalition who sold him the weapons of war they are now destroying, or unlike Mr Blair and various other Republican senators who have shaked hands with him.
I know perfectly well that the Americans will not send soldiers into Libya. They are too busy in Iraq and Afghanistan for that. Besides, they are broke.
BTW, you appear to be satisified with what is happening in Libya – you are very keen to defend what is happening there.
Rudd’s being disloyal to Gillard?
Oh please……..where was her loyalty to him in June 2010?
Centre
I agree with that assessment.
Darn
[Q & A was entertaining enough but I feel a bit apprehensive about the kind of headlines and comments it’s likely to evoke from the muck rakers tomorrow]
I don’t think you will have to wait until tomorrow. There will be some serious questions.
shiftaling @ 2465
Message not cutting through? Isn’t that what the MSM is supposed to do?
You are “concerned that the majority of voters are unaware of exactly what could befall them if they vote or preference the “Liberal” party.” Ask them to cast their minds back to 2007 and earlier and the introduction of “serf choices”.
Diogenes
what will be the serious questions?
There is only one person who will 100% appreciate Mr Rudd’s performance tonight – that will be a very grateful Mr Abbott.
VP,
I defend your right to call JB a bitch, as I must the protesters right to have the BBBitch signs, but I do not like to see it. (If for no other reason than my beautiful tenterfield terrier bitch is the sweetest cutest little thing you could ever meet, who made a lot of oldies happy yesterday when she visited a nursing home.)
I rather think Julie Biship is one of those dolls with a voice tape in it, you pull the cord and she repeats her lines. The real JB is on holiday, they sent the wind-up doll instead.
Mod Lib: Do the Gillard supporters have the nerve to force his resignation and fight a by-election in Griffith?
I think not………..Kevin has Julia over a barrell! 😀
[Gillard, Swan, Arbib, others wanted the ETS to be dropped completely – Kevin’s meant to pretend that this didn’t happen?]
Rudd was PM. What does it say about Rudd that he listened to them?
[Gillard, Swan, Arbib, others wanted the ETS to be dropped completely – Kevin’s meant to pretend that this didn’t happen?]
Rudd was PM. What does it say about Rudd that he listened to them?
[do you feel that Rudd undermined the govt tonight?]
Yes. I think tonight’s events totally overwhelmed him.
[@SpaceKidette
Space Kidette
@mfarnsworth What a crock of shit. You are talking out of your arse as usual.
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Space Kidette, you were actually so proud of this tweet you shared it with the rest of us? Wow. Get a grip.
[SAMANTHAMAIDEN | 1 minute ago
Awful. But funny RT @adam_gleeson Tmw an enormous news day appreciated it Coalition butted out + let the ALP disintegrate by selves #qanda]
Night all.