12.04pm. Those postal votes have been very favourable for Labor in Narre Warren North, increasing their lead from 804 to a probably insurmountable 1022.
11.30pm. Awaiting 830 postal votes to be added to the two-party count in Narre Warren North, which I would say is the only thing further we’re likely to get tonight in a significant seat.
11.23pm. 2475 postals added in Narre Warren North, increasing Labor’s lead from 773 to 804.
11.19pm. 2122 postal votes added in Macedon, reducing Labor’s lead from 741 to 719.
11.12pm. Labor leads by 225 votes (0.4 per cent) in Eltham, with 2013 postal votes added to the count.
11.09pm. Hadn’t heard anyone mention Eltham, but it seems Labor still only have their nose in front.
10.59pm. The VEC has added 1958 postal votes from Monbulk, and their lead is now out to 1.9 per cent.
10.53pm. Same story in Narre Warren North – the VEC has Labor ahead 773, the ABC has it at only 190, with much the same number of votes counted. The VEC has a booth on the primary vote that the ABC doesn’t have, and it’s increased the Labor vote 0.4 per cent and reduced the Liberal vote 0.3 per cent.
10.46pm. Actually, the VEC’s figures from Macedon aren’t more advanced than the ABC’s, they’re just different – both have almost exactly 30,600 votes added. So I’ve no idea why the discrepancy.
10.38pm. The ABC computer seems to have a more up-to-date two-party figure from Bentleigh than the VEC. 2538 postal votes have been added in this seat, whereas there are none yet in the other crucial three, but only half have been added to the VEC two-party count. The ABC however seems to have them all, and has the Liberals leading by 624 votes (1.1 per cent) rather than 213 (0.4 per cent).
10.28pm. Now looking at VEC figures, which are further advanced in Macedon and Narre Warren North and have Labor surging ahead in both, with respective leads of 1.2 per cent and 1.8 per cent.
10.17pm. Another Narre Warren North booth turns a 0.3 per cent Labor deficit into a 0.4 per cent surplus.
10.15pm. Antony also has Labor pulling negligibly ahead in Monbulk, with Daniel Andrews sounding confident – “maybe not even in the doubtful column”.
10.14pm. Daniel Andrews claims counts in all booths counted have Labor ahead in Macedon, where the ABC computer projects a 0.4 per cent Liberal lead.
10.11pm. ABC computer count in Bentleigh has caught up with David Davis’s – two booths left to report two-party counts, Liberals ahead 13,302 to 12,690, lead by 1.2 per cent.
10.09pm. Albert Park count goes from 45.4 per cent to 53.8 per cent, Labor lead goes from 0.3 per cent to 0.5 per cent.
10.03pm. David Davis’s latest figures from Bentleigh have Liberals moving further ahead – 11,892 to 11,175, or 1.6 per cent.
9.55pm. Ben Raue on the upper house:
On my count the Coalition has 21 seats out of 40 in the Legislative Council. Labor has at least 13, with the Greens on 3. In North and East Victoria, Labor is competing with the Country Alliance. Country Alliance will win in either region if the Greens knock out Labor, as Labor preferenced the Country Alliance ahead of the Greens. In South East Metro Labor is competing with the Greens, but I’m on the verge of calling it for Labor.
9.50pm. A run through the seats of destiny. Labor trails by 0.2 per cent in Monbulk with 67.5 per cent counted with one booth to come. In Bentleigh the ABC’s figures are behind what we were told earlier, which is that with most (all?) counting done for tonight the Liberal lead is down to 0.4 per cent. In Macedon too Labor trails by 0.4 per cent with one booth to come. Liberals ahead by 0.3 per cent in Narre Warren North with two booths to come. If Labor wins them all it will be 44-44.
9.48pm. Labor confirms it won’t concede tonight – sounding growingly hopeful of hung parliament.
9.43pm. Peter Reith has apparently criticised Antony Green on Sky News for calling the election too early – he’s only sure 11 seats have gone. If Labor can burrow ahead in Bentleigh, Macedon, Narre Warren North and Monbulk, it will a 44-44 hung parliament and a new election.
9.40pm. Labor hanging on to only a slight lead of 0.3 per cent in Albert Park with 45.4 per cent counted.
9.37pm. This is the first federal or state election since South Australian in 1993 in which no independent or minor party candidates have been elected to the lower house.
9.34pm. David Davis relates figures fron Bentleigh with Libs leading 10,303 to 10,129 – a margin of just 0.4 per cent.
9.06pm. With count up from 29 per cent to 35 per cent, Labor has gone from dead level in Albert Park to 0.3 per cent ahead, which Antony expects to continue.
9.02pm. If preferences had gone as they did in 2006, the Greens would be on 56.3 per cent in Melbourne, 52.5 per cent in Richmond, 51.0 per cent in Brunswick and 45.3 per cent in Northcote.
8.57pm. Daniel Andrews says computer is behind on Bentleigh – with one big pro-Labor booth to go, he thinks they could still get there, but with only limited confidence.
8.51pm. Antony can’t see the Liberals winning Albert Park, even though the computer has them 0.1 per cent ahead with 28.6 per cent counted.
8.50pm. Monbulk continuing to go back and forth, Liberals now in front by 0.2 per cent with 66.1 per cent counted.
8.44pm. Labor moves to the lead in Monbulk, by 0.1 per cent, as count progresses from 48 per cent to 65 per cent.
8.43pm. Labor now ahead in Albert Park by the skin of their teeth, after the count progresses from 14 per cent to 21 per cent.
8.41pm. Macedon count up from 56 per cent to 62 per cent, Liberal lead goes from 0.5 per cent to 0.6 per cent, ABC prediction goes from Liberal ahead to Liberal gain, though obviously not on much basis.
8.39pm. ABC TV has 26.3 per cent rather than 18.8 per cent counted in Bentleigh, but the Liberal lead is basically unchanged. But Daniel Andrews expects better of later booths.
8.36pm. If Labor can somehow fluke wins in each of Bentleigh, Monbulk, Macedon, Albert Park, and Narre Warren North, they would still have 44 seats for a hung parliament in the genuine sense of the term. But they’re behind in all. Might want to stop and note the fact that after all the new paradigm talk of late, we now have a Legislative Assembly with no cross-benchers.
8.34pm. Daniel Andrews not giving away Bentleigh, not unreasonably because only 18.8 per cent is counted, although the Liberals lead by 2.5 per cent. Albert Park count remains very slow.
8.30pm. ABC calling Ballarat West for Labor.
8.29pm. Liberal lead in Monbulk only 0.9 per cent, so if you subscribe to the theory they’ll do better on late counting you wouldn’t be giving it away.
8.28pm. ABC now calling Monbulk a Liberal gain.
8.23pm. Labor can’t afford to lose 11 seats, and 12 look definitely gone. Liberal leads in Macedon, Albert Park and Narre Warren North could yet be chased down if late counting does indeed favour Labor.
8.20pm. Albert Park count up from 9 per cent to 13 per cent, Libs still slightly ahead.
8.16pm. ABC calls Bentleigh for Liberal, Yan Yean for Labor.
8.13pm. Slow count in Albert Park.
8.12pm. ABC computer calling Bendigo East for Labor.
8.10pm. Liberals now ahead in Monbulk.
8.09pm. Still lineball in Narre Warren North, but Labor retains Narre Warren South.
8.08pm. Labor retains Ballarat East, loses Bentleigh, ahead in Ballarat West and Eltham.
8.07pm. ABC computer figures update!
8.04pm. Labor in trouble in Oakleigh as well.
8.03pm. Labor looking gone in Mordialloc, but the computer’s not giving it.
8.02pm. ABC party bods not ready to call Prahran yet.
8.00pm. Still waiting for ABC computer results to update …
7.59pm. Maybe Antony wasn’t quite calling it for the Coalition. Daniel Andrews not giving up South Barwon.
7.59pm. Antony calling Prahran and South Barwon for the Liberals.
7.58pm. Craig Ingram concedes defeat. Antony calls the election for the Coalition.
7.56pm. No good news for the Greens.
7.55pm. Labor now looking better in Geelong.
7.54pm. Macedon seems to be better for Labor now, but I say that without the benefit of booth matching.
7.53pm. Antony says he has his internet back, but the website figures haven’t updated yet.
7.52pm. Still tight in Narre Warren North; Labor ahead in Yan Yean.
7.51pm. Liberals home and hosed in Burwood.
7.48pm. No internet connection for the ABC due to technical problems at the totally unnecessary tally room. Liberals well ahead of Prahran, but this electorate is such that you’d need to look at the booth results. Liberals easily ahead in Mitcham and Forest Hill.
7.44pm. I’m counting 11 seats where the Coalition are ahead of Labor, with no figures in from Forest Hill and Mitcham which they will surely win, and nothing from Prahran and Burwood.
7.40pm. Geelong and Albert Park also tight, despite margins of around 10 per cent.
7.39pm. Early 11.5 per cent swing in Macedon – easily enough for it to fall. Narre Warren North lineball.
7.38pm. Labor ahead in Monbulk on early figures.
7.37pm. Labor holding firm in Bendigo East as well as Ripon. So Newspoll looking good, again.
7.36pm. Computer not calling it, but Labor well ahead in Mordialloc.
7.34pm. ABC computer not calling Mount Waverley, but Antony is.
7.29pm. However, Ripon called ALP retain, but Labor merely “ahead” in Yan Yean.
7.25pm. ABC computer calls Gembrook, Carrum and Seymour for the Liberals – the latter two make it very hard for Labor.
7.20pm. Phil Cleary bombing in Brunswick. Greens and Labor level pegging on primary vote.
7.18pm. ABC computer calls Gippsland East a gain for the Nationals from independent Craig Ingram. Labor ahead in Eltham.
7.17pm. Antony detecting overall swing of 6 per cent, more or less where this morning’s polls had it but better for Labor than the exit poll.
7.16pm. Sorry, had that the wrong way around – 65 per cent of those preferences went to LABOR.
7.11pm. Greens get 65 per cent of preferences from first booth reporting in Richmond.
7.08pm. Ballarat East being discussed on the ABC, which Labor weren’t worried about a week ago.
7.07pm. It looks to me like only the entry page on the ABC results is providing booth-matched 2PP results – click on the link and you get raw comparisons. So the swing in Ripon looks like 0.5 per cent and not 11.0 per cent, though it’s early days.
7.01pm. First booth in from Northcote has Greens primary vote on 50.14 per cent – but it’s a new booth, so we can’t match it.
6.59pm. Antony Green detects 7 per cent swing in the metropolitan area, 6 per cent in regional cities.
6.54pm. Antony Green sounding almost ready to call Gippsland East a Nationals gain from independent Craig Ingram.
6.52pm. Overall early swing seems to be under 4 per cent, but this is mostly rural booths where the polling suggested the swing wouldn’t be so big.
6.49pm. In yet more bad news for Labor, Electoral Commissioner Steve Tully reports the weather has hit turnout.
6.47pm. Tiny booth (203 votes), but 22.4 per cent swing against Labor in Ripon.
6.46pm. Five booths in from Mildura, and Nats member Peter Crisp has picked up a booth-matched primary vote swing of 24 per cent. So I wouldn’t bank on Glenn Milne causing an upset.
6.42pm. Two booths and 180 votes, but Craig Ingram down 12 per cent in Gippsland East.
6.40pm. An independent, whom I know nothing about, is supposedly in with a show in Essendon.
6.33pm. A tiny booth in Nationals-held Mildura (81 votes) has supposedly competitive independent Glenn Milne on 5.6 per cent.
6.27pm. To brace yourself for what’s likely to come, Madcyril in comments relates that according to the ABC, Labor is “worried” about Justin Madden’s seat of Essendon (11.7 per cent) – the sort of seat that fell in 1992.
6.19pm. Auspoll finds 11 per cent decided today, 9 per cent last three days, 10 per cent last week, 17 per cent last month and 52 before that – a high proportion of late deciders, if the shift to the Coalition hadn’t already made that clear.
6.13pm. It seems the Auspoll figures are a straight result from the 18 seats targeted, and that this included the four Labor-versus-Greens contests. The upshot of this is that the swing is 8 per cent, putting the Coalition on track for over 50 seats. Bruce Hawkins on Sky News putting vague hope in pre-polls lodged before the late swing favouring Labor.
6.02pm. Primary votes of 35 per cent, 45 per cent and 12 per cent, Brumby leads as preferred premier 43-35.
6pm. Sky News exit poll tips an easy win to the Coalition, with a two-party lead of 54-46. However, I can never be sure what these figures mean – this looks at the 18 most marginal seats rather than a statewide result. What we need to know is the swing. It should also be known that the pollster, Auspoll, has gotten it wrong before.
Gary,
What have the Libs done for us lately.
Finns
But does Baillieu represent a speeded up journey to Entropy?
ABC Victoria bulletin on ABC News 24
Very important that Labor doesn’t do what so many parties going in to Opp seems to and fail to learn the lessons from this.
Renewal is important.
Of course, they shouldn’t forget their past record as a government; they just shouldn’t rely on it to get them back in.
Brumby will – I expect – show his usual good sense and resign from the leadership but stay on the back bench. A new leadership, especially a young team (e.g. Jacinta/Tim) would help with renewal and provide a fresh start.
[Renewal is important.]
Zoom, in NSW, they are applying the scorched earth policy and that was before they even lost the election.
has anyone heard the projected figures of the upper house……I saw somewhere the
lnp have 21/40???
If the Libs really have won, one policy I’m waiting to see them implement is their promise to create a separate co-ordinating body to oversee Victoria’s public transport system. It has been desperately needed ever since our trams and trains were privatised by Kennett and it is a mystery to me why a Labor government would not introduce it.
It will also be hugely ironic if the Epping rail line extension to South Morang is finally built by the Liberals after Labor promised it at every election since 1999.
I predict Rob Hulls as Opposition Leader and Tim Holdings as Deputy OL.
Peter Ryan will be the attack dog of the Baillieu Govt in the likes of Hulls…
I predict the Libs will run a mile on many of their promises. The budget will not allow them to follow them through or they will ‘do them in the second term’.
[If the Libs really have won, one policy I’m waiting to see them implement is their promise to create a separate co-ordinating body to oversee Victoria’s public transport system.]
I’ve always assumed they will simply rename “metlink” as something more grandiose, Darn, I’m afraid.
[GaryPosted Sunday, November 28, 2010 at 7:32 pm | PermalinkI predict the Libs will run a mile on many of their promises. The budget will not allow them to follow them through or they will ‘do them in the second term’.
]
Like the WA Libs did to the Ellenbrook railine once elected – and they won Swan Hills over that very promise. so far they have just increased the number of busses to the area.
Unlike a decimated opposition Labor has much talent still available and some new members. They’ll be a formidable opposition who will have the belief that the next election is very winnable.
[If the Libs really have won, one policy I’m waiting to see them implement is their promise to create a separate co-ordinating body to oversee Victoria’s public transport system.]
I’m afraid there might be too many entrenched groups against this.
I don’t agree with Tim Holding having a high position. He’s not a good negotiator, and a man who gets lost by being stubborn and refusing to turn back shows too much “Brumby” character.
Just read an interesting analysis of voice + character of some Victorian pollies in the Age’s Good Weekend. Among others things, it suggested that Baillieu use his “lower octave”, and that Justin Madden doesn’t sound as intelligent as he really is. Hmmmmm.
I’m impressed with Tim Pallis. He’s decisive, argues a good case and seems to be a people person.
They could do far worse than make him opposition leader.
[Brumby was a Labor Federal MP during the 1980s.]
As was Rob Hulls, in the 90’s, of course, somewhat bizarrely as the member for the Qld seat of Kennedy, who pinched it from Bob Katter’s dad, but then lost it at the next election to the current Bob K, who has held it ever since!
Let’s see if Mitchell complains about the next government as much as he complained about the last one.
In breaking bad news for the Libs, Baillieu has been photographed without his clothes on at the beach. There were apparently dozens of supporters similarly attired.
Questions are being asked already of the temprement of a politician who takes his clothes off at the first whiff of a victory.
(To be strictly accurate, Katter’s dad resigned through ill health, but Rob H won it at the subsequent election. Can’t remember who he beat.)
Darn#1407
the South Morang Rail extension has already started. It is due for completion in 2014.
Ah well, at least those of us here who are either of Labor or Green persuasion (or somewhere in between) will hopefully be able to get around to joining a mutual hate club for the new Government rather than beating ourselves and each other to death, once the dust settles! 😉
The projected completion date for the South Morang Railway had actually been brought forward to late 2012, victoria.
Mind you, there aren’t too many coalition votes in that neck of the woods, so I guess it may well now go on the back-burner, in favor of sticking more police on Camberwell or Hawthorn station, or some new rolling stock for the Brighton line, perhaps?
Victoria is correct the construction work has commenced.
would have looked good in an ad but someone perferred real estate agents.
Rod Hagen
Great if the project is finished in 2012, even better 🙂
I think if the South Morang extension was in a swinging seat, it would have been done eons ago! Sometimes being in a safe electorate is not beneficial.
The next question is who will control the upper house. If its the Coalition or the Country Alliance, goodnight nurse.
MB,
The North East held for Labor. So, the locals know.
GG
True.
Apparently founder of crikey Stephen Mayne may win a seat in the Upper House.
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/thestump/2010/11/28/mayne-could-hold-balance-of-power-in-victoria/
GG – True although Yan Yean did look close for a while and as we know Eltham ebhaved like a swinging marginal seat does although Steve Herbert does appear over the line.
[True although Yan Yean did look close for a while]
Always does when the rural booths come in first, mb. Never in doubt IMHO.
[as we know Eltham behaved like a swinging marginal seat does although Steve Herbert does appear over the line.]
Unfortunately it has a higher proportion of real estate agents than it used to mb, who are always on the looked for a nice bit of wedge de-greening (in the development, rather than political, sense).
“always on the looked”??? Try “always on the look out”!
Well said GG. They have 4 years to drop utility prices substantially, completely fix the transport system (i.e. double the train numbers due to increases in population), double the number of nurses, police, etc, somehow turnaround the large inner Melbourne developments that are pi**ing all the residents (even though the developers/realestate agents are pretty much Liberal supporters) AND keep the budget and employment strong. I’ll be amazed and awestruck if any of this eventuates, especially when knowing that the backbone of Liberal philosophy is “let the market work it out”. But everyone deserves a 10th chance to make things right… right?
Rod Hagen
I know Shire of Nillumbik are pretty tough on planning. I would also say that City of Banyule don’t approve unit development willly nilly. Not yet anyway. I have noticed in neighbouring City of Whittlesea and City of Darebin, there are unit developments popping up virtually next door to each other.
[They have 4 years to drop utility prices substantially, completely fix the transport system (i.e. double the train numbers due to increases in population), double the number of nurses, police, etc, somehow turnaround the large inner Melbourne developments that are pi**ing all the residents (even though the developers/realestate agents are pretty much Liberal supporters) AND keep the budget and employment strong. I’ll be amazed and awestruck if any of this eventuates, especially when knowing that the backbone of Liberal philosophy is “let the market work it out”. ]
In other words, when Labor get back in next they’ll have an even greater mess to sort out than the one left behind by Kennett, and no doubt suffer themselves when they can’t get it back to where it is now fast enough.
[In other words, when Labor get back in next they’ll have an even greater mess to sort out than the one left behind by Kennett, and no doubt suffer themselves when they can’t get it back to where it is now fast enough.]
Awesome Rod – you know how to cheer someone up mate! 😉
Perhaps Labor should try and prove that it has a lot more in common with the Coalition than people think, by preferencing the Greens last.
[
As a Labor supporter, I congratulate Ted Baillieu on his victory. Baillieu ran a fairly clean campaign and the Libs have got there on a “backbone” decision about the Greens and capitalising on electorate concerns about cost of living issues.
]
Well said GG
I too congratulate Ted Baillieu on the victory.
[I know Shire of Nillumbik are pretty tough on planning.]
Depends on the Council of the day, victoria. With the Lewis Brock’s of this world always hanging around you never what will come to pass here.
net vegetable,
We have seen peak Green.
@george/1432,
The problem with Liberals is that rather not spend money.
GG
Have we seen peak Barber?
Rod Hagen
Lewis Brock is/was? a real estate agent after all 🙂
Reasons to be cheerful for labor sympathisers:
– labor leaves government with a reputation for basic competent governance intact (as witnessed by editorial endorsements from all major newspapers, and having been ahead in the polls for virtually the whole of its term)
– if labor had won as a 4th term government it would have been increasingly besieged: the political environment in victoria in 4 years would most likely look like NSW and Qld do now.
– labor is well placed for these reasons, and also due to having good talent in the parliamentary party, to rebuild and come back quickly.
– several people say many of the most senior government figures really are tired – ie personally, physically tired. Not so bad to kick back for 4 years and watch the new mob attempt to make the trains run on time, fix hospital waiting lists etc. They never managed it before now.
– tho i would not personally wish for a liberal government in any place, at any time, in any circumstance, baillieu is not abbott, or kennett.
– the victorian polity is still one of the more enlightened in australia: if those behind baillieu try to do a kennett they will be out on their ear sooner rather than later.
– the conventional wisdom that it’s not a bad outcome for federal labor.
i find myself feeling strangely, unaccountably, uncharacteristically relaxed about the election outcome…
Can anyone remember what the Coalition policy is on fire prevention? After my failed attampt to access their web this morning, I’m not prepared to try again.
cyril,
I hope the Greens keep on rolling him out. Probably the most arrogant tosser I have ever seen in politics.
Big call, I know.
My assessment of the State election is this. Since the coalition took a principled approach, they (meaning Libs/Nats) did exceptionally well, even taking seat from independent. Ramifications federally. The indies and green mps will not want to go to an early election under any circumstances. They will want full three year term and for it to be productive. I see concessions being made along the way. This should benefit Gillard IMHO.
max
hear hear!
lizzie
I thought Ballieu stated on several occasions that they would adopt all recommendations by the Royal Commission bar one? I stand to be corrected.
[I thought Ballieu stated on several occasions that they would adopt all recommendations by the Royal Commission bar one? I stand to be corrected.]
Which one were they not prepared to adopt?
Rod Hagen
Posted Sunday, November 28, 2010 at 1:26 pm | Permalink
‘Then we got an average Lib State leader in Ballaeu who publicley puts th Greens last ! , and says ALP and Greens is an alliance and what happens , his 2PP rises and at elction a swags of middle australian based Metrop Seats go to th Liberals….put Greens last ‘
“Ron, sometimes the drivel that you put forward..”
Rod Hagen , sometimes th slippery lying arguements you put here to spin suport for your Greens Party defy total reality
Middle Australia voters in th suburbs do not like Greens Party , which is why Abbott’s and Bailleau’s 2PP has gone up but Labors 2PP has dropped with th Public percwption echoed by abbott and Balleau of a Labor /Greens allianse
No surprise you lot can not handle this inconvenient truth , which experts like Lindsay Tanner and Graham Richo has said th same as me makin your unskilled opinion irelevant