Roy Morgan has published a poll encompassing its face-to-face surveys from the past two weekends, hence not accounting for reaction to Labor’s formation of a minority government. It shows Labor opening a 54.5-45.5 lead on two-party preferred, compared with 52.5-47.5 in the last published poll of this kind conducted on the weekend before the election. On the primary vote, Labor is up half a point to 40.5 per cent, the Coalition down 3.5 per cent to 39.5 per cent and the Greens up 1.5 per cent to 15 per cent. The poll has a sample of 1632 and a margin of error of 2.5 per cent beyond that, the recent election result provides yet more evidence that Morgan’s face-to-face polling has a substantial house bias to Labor.
UPDATE: Further from Gary Morgan:
Analysis of ‘past vote’ — how respondents claimed they voted at the recent Federal election shows, ALP (42.5%, 4.5% higher than actual ALP vote recorded at the 2010 Federal election) cf. L-NP (39%, 4.5% lower than the L-NP vote recorded at the 2010 Federal election). “The difference between the reported ‘past vote’ and the actual election result can be due to either — a Labor biased sample, or by an unwillingness of the part of respondents to admit to voting L-NP. This latter problem has been noted in previous polls over many years. Regardless of the reason for the difference, if the Morgan Poll is weighted correctly for ‘past vote,’ the estimate would be 50:50, exactly the same as the special SMS Morgan Poll conducted on Wednesday/Thursday this week.”
PEDRO
Posted Monday, September 13, 2010 at 12:58 am | Permalink
“Ron – Ifind this a very disturbing issue, because on the one hand I have great sympathy with those fleeing barbarism in places like Afghanistan and the coalitiond dog whisling on the issue discusts me.
But it’s a VOTE winner for them so they are not going to let up anytime soon and anything short of a ‘Naru’ type solution means a drag on the Labor vote, how bigger drag depends on how many boats,…”
Pedro
Labor did address issue and DID undo all of Howards unhumane treatment It did not walk away and still hav not (refer details in my #1966) …..not that you’d get that impression from radical left bloggers here nor from MSN/Abbott
C I is proper set up , its under UNHCR , boat people is proper processed for health , security and complianse to convention , 4% get sent hokme , 86% pass all 3 tests
what Abbott/MSN did is zap into fact boats is still coming , well yes , but hey did NOT claim any got to our mainland cause none EVER did They got processed in CI as abov
so last piece of zig saw to neuter Abbot scares is to get boats from travelling on seas hitting out search/rescure area so they dont drown on route Hense E Timor type off -shore soluton It is OUR humane reponsible to solve , and Julia said as much , and voters been so told by her , cann’t be scared of voters on it and Julia was not
what you seeing Pedro is MSN/Abbott distorion of what i said abov is Labor past actions & future plans , that also get misrepresnt here by j/v types
Yeh I know Ron it is very hard to have a rational discussion about this issue or the ets (which I think is a bigger drag on the labor vote than asylum seekers) on this blog.
From the little I know about it East Timor seems about as “liberal’ approach as Labor can really afford, what a lot of our fellow bludgers do not appreciate is that we both want to win elections and sometimes politics is about what you can and can’t get away with.
Enjoy your posts mate always intersting keep em coming.
yep Pedro , riteon there
The Dr is in … anybody out there?
Hi senorita, good morning. it’s you and me against the world.
Ah, the CRACK ………. Boy, has she got a crack:
[PM’s stepdaughter poses in bra – The daughter of Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s partner has posed in a bikini for a men’s magazine.
New York-based punk hair stylist Staci Child gives the middle finger in one shot as she tugs at a bra embossed with an Australian flag.
The 31-year old daughter of Tim Mathieson said her father had seen the Zoo Weekly shots, taken in Sydney, which expose her myriad tattoos.]
http://www.smh.com.au/national/pms-stepdaughter-poses-in-bra-20100913-1577x.html
An Onymous Lefty has put it well.
http://anonymouslefty.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/what-are-they-thinking/
Labor almost lost an election and thy are carrying on with the same shit, what are they thinking. Ph well. at least we now have a parliament that will put a stop to the sillier ideas.
When’s the next poll out 😀
Morning Finn any significant news this morning? Seems quiet to me.
Senorita, “PM’s stepdaughter poses in bra” – this is big news as far as SMH is concerned. they call it the Naked Half Truth.
Geez that’s trawling for news who cares what stepdaughter does it’s her business
How is this woman Julia’s stepdaughter when Julia and Tim aren’t even married?
tokenyank why let the facts spoil a beatup, anything that can smear Julia or Labor in particular will do, the war continues be alert AND alarmed
Someone emailed SkyNews this morning refering to Mesma’s “To the Manor Born” attitude and how she would strut the international stage as FA Minister.
Fran and Michelle telling us how WE will interpret things…again. Tell us what you think, NOT what we might think.
Conroy very solid this morning…he’s one filter short of a strong minister.
This letter in the SMH is spot:
[ What Abbott said
Peter Hartcher should be applauded for noting that the Coalition’s claims that a Gillard minority government is ”illegitimate” are both ”constitutionally wrong and legally baseless”.
Nevertheless, an unnamed senior Liberal is quoted as saying: ”The attack on legitimacy didn’t come from Tony.” This is incorrect. Mr Abbott’s election night speech itself included the following statement: ”What is clear from tonight is that the Labor Party has definitely lost its majority and what that means is that the government has lost its legitimacy.”
Even the Liberal Party’s official website, with its transcription of Mr Abbott’s speech that night, makes this plain. ]
spot on 😀
ThrTruthHurts
[NEW Immigration Minister Chris Bowen has warned he won’t stop the flow of refugee boats coming to Australia.
A day after being handed one of the toughest portfolios in the Government, Mr Bowen told the Herald Sun: “I’m not going to raise any sort of expectations that boats are easy to stop.”
Failed his portfolio on Day 1.
Quite an achievement, is this a new record?]
The truth hurts, doesn’t it.
Ross Gittins has a direct swip at the odd Alan Mitchell article in the AFR last Friday:
[THE dismay with which economic rationalists have greeted the ascension of Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s ”weak and hopefully short-lived government” is overdone. What we’re getting is different from what we expected, but I’m not convinced it’ll be any worse…
Let’s get real. Whether the rationalists like it or not, the era of widespread reform is long gone. The notion that, had Abbott won, we might be back to the glory days is delusional. Abbott, a man who’s hitherto shown no great interest in economics, fought an almost completely negative campaign and resorted to blatant populism…
But here’s what the rationalists have missed: Gillard’s need to win the support of the independents may increase the likelihood of a few reforms going through.]
http://www.smh.com.au/business/will-to-negotiate-could-be-the-making-of-gillard-20100912-156xz.html
Had to chuckle at this headline in The Australian
‘Greg will keep the Greens in check’
[
Coalmining is the lifeblood of the region, which takes in the NSW Hunter Valley, so Mr Combet’s new portfolio may seem like an odd appointment, given the make-up of his Charlton constituents. But Mr Heaton takes a different view. He is encouraged by Mr Combet’s elevation to the critical role in applying climate change policy to the national economy and to coalmining in particular.
He said Mr Combet, a former coalmining engineer with a record of looking after workers’ interests, would keep the more radical views of the Greens in check as he negotiates his way through a new climate change regime.
]
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/greg-will-keep-the-greens-in-check/story-fn59niix-1225919900355
Alas, no venting about the Greens from The Australian Editorial today 😀
[Senorita, “PM’s stepdaughter poses in bra” – this is big news as far as SMH is concerned. they call it the Naked Half Truth.]
Finns, If she’s prancing around in her undies, it’s gotta be StepdaughterGait.
A moderately interesting article on pokies. The part that caught my eye was this bit: there has been a expert process reviewing this industry (notwithstanding the LNP’ Senator Joyce’s penchant for using it as lavatory paper); it is not simply a knee-jerk reaction to some independents.
[But the prospect itself should not have come as a great shock. The Productivity Commission recommended the pre-commitment system after finding that about 41 per cent of the $11.9 billion Australians spend on poker machines each year came from problem gamblers and it seriously questioned the community benefits that clubs claim to offer. The commission also dismissed concerns about job losses.]
No doubt the Liberal’s “ferocious opposition” will be based on an appropriate policy analysis
http://www.smh.com.au/business/number-is-up-at-the-pokie-palaces-20100912-156xt.html
This is a piece in today’s Herald Sun by Alan Howe. It is a good read.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/alls-fair-as-julia-wins/story-e6frfhqf-1225919832528
The media is mistaken in assuming that Simon Crean is the Minister for ‘keeping the independents happy’.
My reading of it is that he is more the Minister for “wining back regional seats i.e. QLD”.
He gave a very intelligent AM interview where he said he wanted to ensure that everything the govt done is regionally tailored to give a better outcome. He seems like he actually wants some influence over all Departments.
If he could pull it off it would be excellent. Even when Rudd was riding high in the polls, the centralist tendencies of the Federal Environment Department had already wasted the time and greatly annoyed pterry much every person and organisation working in the field (either volunteering or professionally).
The “Canberra knows best” attitude infiltrated down to the tiniest detail of policies and grants. If the ALP govt p_ssed off a latte sipping small-l lib greenie like me then then I can imagine how people in central QLD responded.
—stops to sip latte—
Having said that about Crean, what a stupid decision to leave out Universities and Research (at least in name) from someones Ministry.
So we have instead:
Skillz Rule
Schoolz Rule
Yippee
Who’s the Minister for ABC Reform? Again this morning I heard opinion as news and the world-view of the Opposition.
A News Radio story about ceiling insulation inevitably preceded by “the Government’s bungled”, was followed by: “Even before it’s been sworn in, the Federal Opposition has found fault with the new cabinet…”
Never did an organization so need a complete overhaul to ensure adherence to its Charter – or to a new one.
[A Good Lurk
Posted Monday, September 13, 2010 at 8:30 am | Permalink
Who’s the Minister for ABC Reform? Again this morning I heard opinion as news and the world-view of the Opposition.
A News Radio story about ceiling insulation inevitably preceded by “the Government’s bungled”, was followed by: “Even before it’s been sworn in, the Federal Opposition has found fault with the new cabinet…”
Never did an organization so need a complete overhaul to ensure adherence to its Charter – or to a new one.]
I suspect you need a competitor tv network to raise the issue. Maybe Mel and Kochie can blow the lid on it. Or the 7PM report
Conroy was good on RN this morning.
I’m enjoying seeing the ministers starting to smack down the media. Gillard’s comments about Sky yesterday were gold, but I think the best comment I heard may have been Q and A last week where someone (can’t recall whom) noted that while the Oz has been appalling, worse has been the ABC cutting and pasting the Oz for its news.
[I’m enjoying seeing the ministers starting to smack down the media. Gillard’s comments about Sky yesterday were gold, but I think the best comment I heard may have been Q and A last week where someone (can’t recall whom) noted that while the Oz has been appalling, worse has been the ABC cutting and pasting the Oz for its news.]
Burgey
George Mega on Lateline.
BK
Mega also said this (one of THE best quotes of the year):
[And obviously they didn’t pick this result between them because they aimed for a disengaged centre that just doesn’t exist anymore.
There simply aren’t enough people in this – whether it’s a redneck or an outer suburban mortgage belt or whatever it is that they were looking for at the last election, that voter doesn’t exist in large enough numbers to be able to carry one or other over the line. ]
In other words, you can’t win an election on bogans alone.
Yes b_g, a great insight.
I actually heard on Radio during newsbreak, that an insulation company is being investigated as a result of their shoddy work causing four house fires. No mention of the Govt. Did not hear any more than that.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/gillard-lashes-out-at-media-coverage-20100912-1570l.html
Its seems like the ALP are now taking a less than precious line with the media.
Simon Crean this morning said WTTE “Get off it Lyndal”, in response to a q about plotters.
Mitch Fifield on Agenda. “We got a majority of votes”. Unchallenged by flak Gilbert.
So Hockey has changed his tune on the costings *difference of opinion*. Now he is doing his Sgt Schulz impersonation.
Infighting in the libs off to a good start, Hockey – robb ??
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/hockey-in-the-dark-on-costings/story-fn59niix-1225919871022
Victoria Greg Hunt was prattling on about that seems he doesn’t want a police investigation.
GregHuntMP Police probe fires linked to Rudd-Gillard Govt batts scheme – http://bit.ly/ailiRn about 1 hour ago via web
For all the Michelle Grattan fans out there, I thought you’d like this description of Rudd losing the Prime Ministership
[
Bill Shorten, who was a coup leader and is a big winner, becoming Assistant Treasurer and Minister for Finance Services and Superannuation, needs to prove he is as good as the hype that has surrounded much of his career. Various other coup-makers who have been promoted have to demonstrate they can do more than put together a putsch.
]
Was it a beer hall putsch, or a Chinese restaurant putsch 😀
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-election/from-the-boss-down-new-ministry-has-much-to-prove-20100912-1570i.html
Steve
Thanks for posting that link. When did you hear Greg Hunt suggesting police investigation not warranted?
dave, so Robb can’t get the costings right and Hockey didn’t even bother to be involved. Thats some choice 😀
Oakeshott character assassination continues afresh.
[It must seem so to Oakeshott, who has discovered that the media world beyond the adoring Port Macquarie News is a very different place, a place where Oakeshott has become Potshott.
He has spent nearly 20 years working towards this moment, his time in the national sun. But with the glow comes the heat.]
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/far-from-an-outsider-or-innocent-20100912-156uu.html
Dave 2025
I understand that Hockey had his staff numbers reduced and shifted to Abbott’s office after the leadership spill. He hasn’t had the staff numbers to run a shadow treasury.
Its all part of the sh-t sandwich that many chose to devour when Tony took the reins.
The only one who opted out was Helen Coonan. It will be interesting to see if she picks up portfolio.
blue-green
it would be nice if the heat were turned on to the coalition for a change. I doubt things are hunky dory over their in Lib Land. The Nats want a bigger share of the pie and Hockey and Robb are not best buddies. Throw Malcolm in the mix and you have a nice bit of instability.
Victoria I just took that from the tone of his Tweet. It just read as though he was disappointed.
[THE nation’s new Climate Change Minister, Greg Combet, has vowed to bring “common sense” to the climate change debate. ]
Its funny how “common sense” has become a euphemism for “not what the scientists say is needed”.
Am I right to be cynical that a heavy hitting unionist is put in the climate change role to be protectionist and not to actually reduce emissions?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/coal-industry-is-safe-says-greg-combet/story-fn59niix-1225919936683
Victoria
The coalition is still on cloud nine really. A year ago about 20 MPs thought they might lose their seats. Its only really the ones on the moderate fringe who are feeling put out (Hockey etc).
The divisions will take time to show themselves. The ALP just need to govern quietly for a while.
@ Victoria
The LNP are only 1 negative headline away from a decent internal stoush I believe. If the ALP can keep it’s stuff together until christmas the media will have to look elsehwhere for copy to fill their rags.
Blue_Green, I thought that the Heavy hitting unionists were tied up in Court today.
Ark Tribe in court 9am (9:30am EST). News and announcements as they come to hand. Signt the ‘Don’t Jail Ark’ petition: http://bit.ly/aklPZ7 25 minutes ago via web
Steve
What is that all about?
When people talk about protecting coal jobs I think about the typing pool workers and the workers at the polaroid film factory and all those people who made telex machines.
[Steve
What is that all about?]
Blue_Green Liberal Party IR laws following the Cole Inquiry still possibly leading to people being jailed.