With the final result still uncertain but increasingly looking like Liberal/National 73, Labor 72, independents four and Greens one, it’s time for a new thread.
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Bookies favour a 2011 election. Kevin 11?
[ Oakeshott would have to accept the speakership. I’m not convinced any of the independents would.
]
Until Oakeshott actually says on national tv he will not accept nomination……just watch this space.
JV
you be tapping my phone again
🙁
Tom the first and best 3991: What about Turnbull for Speaker?
At least that will move him further away from the Liberal Party. The further the better in my view. And if that doesn’t work out he can keep moving to the other side of the chamber.
#3986 Maybe – but no one is forced to accept a nomination – Admittedly there is the ancient right of carrying someone to the chair
[What about Turnbull for Speaker?]
He seems to be making a lot of new noises from the back. Putting him in the speaker chair will silence him. So I think he’d decline that offer, regardless of who offers it.
[make me PM, or I’ll bring on an election – blackmail of the worst sort!]
True, but it may be the only card he has to play if he wants to have the costings remain out of public view.
Not that its a particularly good card.
Seems to me that all of the Indies have at some pointor another been bullied in some way by the Coalition. Tone’s problem is that he hasnt quite got it yet that now he is in no position to bully ANYONE.
Tony going down.
Or, what about Turnball serving in a Labor minority government cabinet?
Or, Rudd serving in a Coalition minority government cabinet?
😉
[Bronwyn Bishop would literally kill to be Speaker, but I doubt anyone would offer it to her, even to keep themselves in office.]
Even if she threatens to literally kill them? 😉
It’s the government’s responsibility to provide a Speaker, so they will nominate Jenkins. If the indys want a Coalition Speaker they can elect one, assuming the Coalition nominates a candidate.
[ less seats. ]
-can we say “fewer seats”? I so miss the word “fewer”.
Gusface
*shiver* Well, I won’t even look at a bamboo BBQ skewer until the 8 days has passed.
The Wentworth Bull certainly does have a spring in his step, expect some cavorting, charging and stamping in the near future.
I reckon Tony only has to get on the phone to his mates in Nauru to ask them how they are sorting out their Speaker
http://australianetworknews.com/stories/201007/2948271.htm?desktop
ironic
JV
You’ll keep
🙁
Ozymandias@4011
Agreed. To use ‘less’ rather than ‘fewer’ in that context is to abrogate our responsibility as custodians of the language. 😆
Speakers are usually respected backbenchers. Whom might the Coalition nominate? Ruddock? Broadbent? Washer? Haase?
Nominating Jenkins reduces Labor to 71 on the Floor so they will need the Green, Wilkie and 2 independents to even tie the vote = suicide
Scenario:
Oakeshott accepts labor’s nomination as Speaker. Elected unopposed.
No’s – Labor 72
Green 1
Coalition 73
Windsor & Katter abstain (both sides equally as bad).
Tied vote. Oakeshott casts casting vote to retain status quo (just following convention).
Bronwyn would be an utterly terrifying Speaker.
Ruddock would be ok IMO.
*makes mandatory PB reference to the absurd notion of Rudd being the Coalition’s speaker*
“Fewer” seats is correct. “Less” seats would be right if we didn’t know how many seats there were. Oh wait…
Message to Labor: don’t let Abbott and his media mates control the agenda!
We’re in the midst of a concerted campaign by News Ltd to frighten the independents into backing the Coalition.
Election Wars: The Independents Strike Back
[*makes mandatory PB reference to the absurd notion of Rudd being the Coalition’s speaker*]
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bronny would be almost worth it
😉
I reckon a musical at least,if not the full Rocky Horror or Little Shop of Horrors treatment
Psephos
[I don’t think the writs are returned that quickly. They don’t have to be returned until 27 October!
]I agree – I was answering the question of the earliest possibel date not likely date
Cud
the chaser had
[Independents Day]
Droll
@4019 good scenario, everyone’s a winner (almost) – same vote can happen for supply, and everything else can depend on its merits
what about Wilkie? does he abstain too?
[Nominating Jenkins reduces Labor to 71 on the Floor so they will need the Green, Wilkie and 2 independents to even tie the vote = suicide]
That’s why the most likely outcome is a formal agreement between the government and the three rural indys for a three-year term and an agreed package of reforms (including I hope a reform of QT). Wilkie can join in if he likes. Everyone wins from this except Abbott.
Gusface@4026
Well there’s already one song in the can 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLM1js9CKhQ
I came across this Hansard of the Speaker’s election in NSW in 1911. The ALP had lost it majority and organized their speaker to resign because of “ill health” they then nominated Henry Willis a member of the Liberal Reform. After a 20 hour “debate’ including several acts of violence at 7 am: “members of the House still calling Mr. Willis to the Chair, he was taken out of his place by the hon. member for The Namoi and the hon. member for The Murray and, amidst great disorder, conducted to the Chair, from which amidst continued disorder, and cries of ‘Judas,’ he was understood to thank the House for the honour conferred on him.”
Obvious Speaker is Wilkie; self appointed conscience of national propriety. Would keep him away from deliberating on substantive issues. Alas he’s a parliamentary newbie and would need a crash course in Standing Orders 101.
Psephos. I nominate Alby Schultz, he is one eyed literally and figuratively. He would be a classic speaker.
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hmm, that didn’t quite work
frank
actually
I reckon Queens “I want to be free” would be bronny’s signature tune
Gawd a queen overlay would cut it
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Couldn’t have put it better myself.
in the wilkie gloom oak was shot
knot a bastard windsor knot
a bandt o’ crook to camelot
who took the hat of cat; abbott
Abastardamus
Dyno
elitist
😉
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*slaps you* Well I never!
Procedure for election of Speaker:-
Chapter 3 of Standing Orders
[I nominate Alby Schultz]
Could do worse, but he has a terrible temper.
You can’t make just anyone Speaker. The Speakership isn’t just sitting in the Chair at QT. It’s a major administrative job.
Bohemian rhapsody could cover tones leadership
[Dyno
elitist]
But with so little to be elitist about …
Graeme Orr
What’s that? You want Wilkie as speaker to ‘keep him away from deliberating on substantive issues’ because he would apply his conscience to them?
What chapter of “1984” do you live in?
[Obvious Speaker is Wilkie]
Wilkie worries me, he reminds me too much of Philip Nitschke, right cause, wrong person to lead it up. Wilkie is well meaning but damaged goods I reckon… but perhaps the speaker’s chair is the mercy seat for him…
minchin,barnyard,robb and truss could do the quartet part
Is Brisbane over?
I nominate Peter Dutton for Speaker. It’ll be the only time he’ll ever be seen as doing anything useful.
Failing that, I nominate Mr Christopher Pyne, Member for Sturt. And I nominate Harry Jenkins as Manager of Gov/Opp Business 👿