Monday miscellany: RedBridge poll, Dunkley and teal seat polls, preselection latest (open thread)

More evidence of strong support for the stage three tax cut changes, but with Labor failing to make ground and facing a close result in Dunkley.

RedBridge Group has conducted its first federal poll for the year, and the movement it records since its last poll in early December is in favour of the Coalition, who are up three points on the primary vote to 38%. Labor and the Greens are steady at 33% and 13% with others down three to 16%, and Labor records a 51.2-48.8 lead on two-party preferred, in from 52.8-47.2. A question on negative gearing finds an even split of 39% each for and against the status quo, with the latter composed of 16% who favour removing it from new rental properties in future and 23% for removing it altogether. Further detail is forthcoming, including on field work dates and sample size.

Progressive think tank the Australia Institute has published a number of federal seat-level automated phone polls conducted by uComms, most notably for Dunkley, whose by-election is now less than three weeks away. The result is a 52-48 lead to Labor on respondent-allocated preferences, compared with a 56.3-43.7 split in favour of Labor in 2022. After distributing a forced response follow-up question for the unusually large 17% undecided component, the primary votes are Labor 40.1% (40.2% at the election), Liberal 39.3% (32.5%), Greens 8.2% (10.3%) and others 12.4% (16.9%). A question on the tax cut changes finds 66.3% in favour and 28.1% opposed, although the question offered a bit too much explanatory detail for my tastes. The poll was conducted last Monday and Tuesday from a sample of 626.

The other polls are from the teal independent seats of Kooyong, Mackellar and Wentworth, conducted last Monday from samples of 602 to 647. They show the incumbents leading in each case despite losing primary vote share to Labor, together with strong support for the tax cut changes. In Kooyong, distributing results from a forced response follow-up for the 9.7% undecided produces primary vote shares of 33.5% for Monique Ryan (the only candidate mentioned by name, down from 40.3% in 2022), 39.5% for the Liberals (42.7%), 15.7% for Labor (6.9%) and 7.5% for the Greens (6.3%). Ryan is credited with a 56-44 lead on two-candidate preferred, but preference flows from 2022 would make it more like 53.5-46.5.

In Mackellar, distribution of the 10.8% initially undecided gets incumbent Sophie Scamps to 32.2% of the primary vote (38.1%), with 39.3% for Liberal (41.4%), 14.8% for Labor (8.2%) and 6.6% for the Greens (6.1%). This comes out at 54-46 after preferences (52.5-47.5 in 2022), but I make is 52.7-47.3 using the flows from 2022. In Wentworth, Allegra Spender gets the best result out of the three, with distribution of 6.3% undecided putting her primary vote at 35.1% (35.8% in 2022), with Liberal on 39.0% (40.5%), Labor on 15.3% (10.9%) and Greens on 10.4% (8.3%). The reported two-candidate preferred is 57-43, but the preference flow in this case is weaker than it was when she won by 54.2-45.8 in 2022, the result being 59.2-40.8 based on preference flows at the election.

Federal preselection news:

Andrew Hough of The Advertiser reports South Australia’s Liberals will determine the order of their Senate ticket “within weeks”, with the moderate Anne Ruston tussling with the not-moderate Alex Antic for top place. The third incumbent, David Fawcett, a Senator since 2011 and previously member for Wakefield from 2004 to 2007, will be left to vie for the dubious third position against political staffer and factional conservative Leah Blyth.

• The Sydney Morning Herald’s CBD column reports nominations have closed for the Liberal preselection in Gilmore, and that Andrew Constance has again put his name forward, after narrowly failing to win the seat in 2022 and twice being overlooked for Senate vacancies last year. He faces competition from Paul Ell, a moderate-aligned lawyer and Shoalhaven deputy mayor who had long been mentioned as a potential candidate for the seat, having been persuaded to leave the path clear for Constance in 2022.

Hannah Cross of The West Australian reports Sean Ayres, a 26-year-old lawyer and staffer to former member Ben Morton, has emerged as a fourth Liberal preselection contender in the normally conservative Perth seat of Tangney, joining SAS veteran Mark Wales, Canning mayor and former police officer Patrick Hall and IT consultant Harold Ong.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. If Trump gets reelected, Australia should seriously consider shifting to a nuclear subs deal with Japan or South Korea.

    I’d be worried about trade wars.

  2. Thank you for that ringing endorsement Lars, I began to fear you had started to see me less as peace maker, more as antagoniser.

    My spectacular turnaround can only be credited to a simple phrase of yours that I took to heart— “when they go low, I go high”

  3. meher, I agree that with Shorten as leader of the opposition, a small target strategy made sense. That doesnt change my opinion that the LNP of 2019 was vulnerable to a bold opposition campaign of change (with the right ALP leader).

  4. C@tmommasays:
    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:41 pm
    Entropy @ #734 Tuesday, February 13th, 2024 – 12:31 pm

    C@tmommasays:
    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:18 pm
    Entropy,
    Are you ESL? You seem to have trouble spelling certain common words, like ‘too’ and ‘won’t’. ‘Anyway’ used instead of any way.
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    Is it common on here to criticise peoples grammar. When they disagree with what they saying?. It is a common method employed by TPOF and their sock puppets. Now you are employing it. The fact you can’t win an argument with someone with poor grammar. Says more about your intellectual ability than mine i suspect though.

    Interesting. If anyone has a different pov to you they’re weak, they’re wrong, and that’s why they are criticising you. M’ok. Also, you still don’t understand the meaning of sock puppet. Here you go: a false online identity used for deceptive purposes. I’m not trying to deceive anyone here. I’ll also defend TPOF from your attacks on him simply for not being on the side of the Oct 7 terrorists. You’re welcome.
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    It appears you have English comprehension difficulties too. You never criticised my argument just my grammar. I just asked was that a proxy for criticising my argument when you don’t have a good counter argument?. If you read my post i never accused you of being a sock puppet though.

    If you go through the posts you’ll also find it was TPOF who attacked me not vica versa. Just because on a comment on Avi Yemini i called him Jewish, which he is. The post was about doxing and nothing to do with what you raised in your last sentence though.

  5. The New York Times is determined to make ‘but his age’ the new ‘but her emails’

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/12/2222984/-The-New-York-Times-is-determined-to-make-but-his-age-the-new-but-her-emails?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_5&pm_medium=web

    “If there’s anything The New York Times seems to enjoy, it’s coming up with a focused attack on a Democratic candidate and then running that attack over and over and over again. Maybe their writers enjoy the simplicity of copy-pasting their remarks. Maybe there’s pleasure in patchwriting existing articles into something “new.” Whatever it is, once the Times has latched on to their Great White “But Her Emails,” they are inclined to never let it go.

    For Joe Biden, the line of attack doesn’t even require misunderstanding how email servers work, a pretense that some kind of rule has been broken, or James Comey coming in with a holier-than-thou hot take. Because Biden is old. Case closed. Break out the Xerox machine and just keep slapping that copy button.

    Over the weekend, The New York Times filled every slot on its editorial page with a piece attacking Biden’s age and memory. That didn’t just include the Times’ conservative columnists calling for the president to step down, but the paper’s editorial board jumping in to tell you that Americans think Biden is too old. As for 77-year-old Donald Trump? Now there’s someone who “does not appear to be suffering the effects of time in such visible ways.”

    How many times can a single article tell you that Biden is old, but Trump is in his prime? Well, there’s the headline:

    “Why the Age Issue Is Hurting Biden So Much More Than Trump”
    And the subhead:

    “Both Donald J. Trump and President Biden are over 75. But voters are much less likely to worry that Mr. Trump is too old to serve.”

    And then there’s this paragraph about Trump, which has to be read in its entirety to appreciate how embarrassing it would be to Kim Jong Un’s publicist.

    “Mr. Trump, by contrast, does not appear to be suffering the effects of time in such visible ways. Mr. Trump often dyes his hair and appears unnaturally tan. He is heavyset and tall, and he uses his physicality to project strength in front of crowds. When he takes the stage at rallies, he basks in adulation for several minutes, dancing to an opening song, and then holds forth in speeches replete with macho rhetoric and bombast that typically last well over an hour, a display of stamina.”

  6. “The New York Times is determined to make ‘but his age’ the new ‘but her emails’”

    Dunno whether you can blame the NY Times for this. Biden’s cognitive decline is blatantly obvious. It doesn’t matter that Trump mis probably as bad or worse on that score, as his people aren’t for turning. Unfortunately there is a rich vein of “democrat possible” voters who could well ‘sit this one out’ because of this and other issues. It is like watching a slow moving train wreck.

  7. The class war and class envy have never played well in Australian politics, as Ben Chifley found to his cost in 1949.

    If change is needed, policies of change should be prosecuted. You dont have to (well, you shouldnt) do so using class warfare rhetoric. You can do it using ‘fairness’ and good for the country (society/economy) as a whole as your pitch.

    There will always be winners and losers with change. Sometimes the losers will be wealthy people. That doesnt mean it is class warfare. I mean, if you call it that you could argue there has been a covert, defacto class and generational warfare in progress for some time. We shouldnt shy away from change, or at least corrections if needed and the public are ready for it and the change-leaders are up for it.

  8. Thought leader….

    Lars don’t tell me you’ve committed the mortal sin of hanging around the HR department of some large, woke, publicly listed company?

    Please tell me that isn’t the case.

  9. Just a reminder that the Lisa Wilkinson V Channel 10 for the Costs case for retaining separate legal teams in the Bruce Lehrmann defamation case, is back on today:

    But Wilkinson told the court on Tuesday that she had taken significant steps to ensure the speech was legally responsible before she “went anywhere near that stage”.

    “They approved that speech at the highest levels of the network,” she said.

    “All of them had approved the speech, but I was the one that was accused … me alone, as derailing the rape case.”

    She said she believed Ten had a conflict in representing her in the defamation proceedings.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/watch-live-lehrmann-case-resumes-as-lisa-wilkinson-fights-for-legal-costs-20240212-p5f4ad.html

  10. While polls indicate that most voters think Biden’s too old & decrepit to run, such is not necessarily an indication of how they’ll vote come election day. I think Biden will win handsomely. And, apart from a serious health issue befalling him, it’s too late now for another candidate such as the suave, articulate Newsom to run.

  11. Griffsays:
    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:02 pm
    Entropy says:
    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 11:51 am
    TPOFsays:
    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 11:25 am
    Entropy

    Certainly in the case i posted above @10:51pm an ultra far right Jewish person with access to large amount of funds

    _____________________

    Why did it matter that they were Jewish (assuming you are correct anyway)?

    ==================================================

    __________

    They are different. One party is being doxed based on their religious/ethnic status. The other did not undertake an aborted defamation action because of their religious ethnic status. Or are you saying otherwise? Hopefully not. Actually you may not need to answer the question if it gets William Bowe in a spot of bother.

    As for your “Note”, the media does it isn’t a high integrity threshold.
    ==========================================================

    Did you read the original post or just the snippet TPOF posted. I didn’t wish to give the individual any publicity by using his name. So i used a descriptor of him that included his ethnicity. Which TPOF seems to think is crime. Which he evoked the special word he has for such crimes. TPOF also queried the person was of this ethnicity (see above). So i dropped the idea of not naming him and did so anyway. If i used the descriptor of black African male for someone, would you believe my offence was the same?.

  12. leftieBrawler @ #752 Tuesday, February 13th, 2024 – 12:47 pm

    Thank you for that ringing enforcement Lars, I began to fear you had started to see me less as peace maker, more as antagoniser.

    My spectacular turnaround can only be credited to a simple phrase of yours that I took to heart— “when they go low, I go high”

    For the zillionth time, it was Michelle Obama who said, “When they go low, I go high.” Lars von Trier simply copy-catted her.

  13. A poll that was very recently released showed that while Trump would win a general election by 2 points, replacing him with Michelle Obama would see him lose by 3. So dumping Biden in itself is worth about 5 points and could be the difference between a Trump landslide and a nailbiter.


  14. Andrew_Earlwoodsays:
    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:58 pm
    “The New York Times is determined to make ‘but his age’ the new ‘but her emails’”

    Dunno whether you can blame the NY Times for this. Biden’s cognitive decline is blatantly obvious. It doesn’t matter that Trump mis probably as bad or worse on that score, as his people aren’t for turning. Unfortunately there is a rich vein of “democrat possible” voters who could well ‘sit this one out’ because of this and other issues. It is like watching a slow moving train wreck.

    A_E
    I understand what you are saying and probably he should announce that he won’t contest next election especially because Trump is other candidate.

    But as per the article NYT has been doing this age-schtick for a long time since he was picked as VP candidate for Obama.
    But the thing Trump is also showing his age and loss of memory, which is not highlighted by US MSM especially when he is most dangerous candidate ever to run for POTUS with a good chance to win.

  15. Not only that Mavis, Newsom can’t win with the 100-150 or so electoral points he’d get by carrying California, the Pacific Northwest and select New England states as well as Colorado and perhaps New Mexico.

    I seriously doubt he could even win strong holds like Illinois and New York

    He could never get to the magic 270 and I suspect he knows that thus his decision to not mount a challenge to Biden in the primaries

  16. Team Katich says:
    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:46 pm

    Trumps trade wars will be on 2 Fronts, China & Mexico.
    Mexico has passed China as largest exporter to the US…

    You know what happened to the last leader that had a war on 2 fronts

  17. So graceless of u c@t, you’ve probably forgotten but I first used the expression on PB in 2013 – 3 years BEFORE Michelle Obama stole it from me.

    If my beloved great aunts mathilde or Eunice was still with us, they could also provide corroboration.

  18. Confessions @ #611 Tuesday, February 13th, 2024 – 6:42 am

    A 70-year-old man could face 10 years in jail for allegedly sending a threatening homophobic letter to Sydney MP Alex Greenwich which invoked the AIDS epidemic and referred to firebrand MP Mark Latham “as a real man”.

    The man allegedly sent the graphic letter to Greenwich on October 4 last year, using a pseudonym. It was concealed in a greeting card.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/man-charged-after-latham-inspired-homophobic-letter-sent-to-sydney-mp-20240212-p5f483.html

    What is wrong with people? And what is wrong with letting people just live their own lives? I bet this old fart has never met Greenwich and their lives have therefore never touched. The old man must be seriously deranged if he goes to those sorts of levels to criticise someone he’s never met.

    ‘fess, re the “not a real man” accusation:

    It’s not uncommon, often if not mostly never acquainted, often if not mostly it can be a death sentence.

    The indifference by the police, the press, and the public underscores the belief imo.

  19. Michelle Obama is the Lunar Right’s wet dream of a Democrat candidate for POTUS. So it’s not going to happen. Not to mention that she’s never had any experience waging a campaign or legislating. The Democrats would be made to seem a laughing stock if they turned to her at the last minute. And it’s getting very close to the last minute to change candidates.

    Anyway, how can the Republicans run against Joe Biden on age or cognitive ability, when Trump is almost the same age and has demonstrated more instances of cognitive decline than Joe Biden could poke a stick at. Even if he got the wrong end of the stick!

  20. Team Katich

    “If Trump gets reelected, Australia should seriously consider shifting to a nuclear subs deal with Japan or South Korea.

    I’d be worried about trade wars.”

    Why? Australia – USA trade has a huge deficit in favour of USA – we don’t get much access to their markets at all.

    Whereas South Korea and Japan both have trade imbalances with Australia in OUR favour. They are amongst our best customers for lots of stuff, especially coal and iron ore.

  21. LVT: “So graceless of u c@t, you’ve probably forgotten but I first used the expression on PB in 2013 – 3 years BEFORE Michelle Obama stole it from me.”

    Before Michelle O, it seemed very much to be the game plan of the Magpies rugby league club back in the 1970s. Along with, of course, getting one’s retribution in first.


  22. Player Onesays:
    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 11:47 am
    BK @ #711 Tuesday, February 13th, 2024 – 11:45 am

    Shown on Fox News.

    I’d have added Netanyahu as #2, but other than that it seems about right.

    I agree with you P1.
    P1
    Isn’t it true that evangelicals, who believe rapture will happen, expect something to happen in Arab world for that to happen?

    From a guardian article:
    “Broadly speaking, some evangelicals believe that Jewish people returning to Israel following the 1917 ​​Balfour Declaration, a British statement which called for “the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people”, was key to end times, when God will purge sinners and Jesus Christ will return.

    John Hagee, an evangelical pastor and influential founder of Christians United for Israel, explained the prophecy to TBN Networks in December 2022.

    “God is getting ready to defend Israel in such a supernatural way it’s going to take the breath out of the lungs of the dictators on planet Earth but we are living on the cusp of the greatest most supernatural series of events the world has ever seen ready or not.”

    Hagee said when Jewish people are present in Israel “the clock starts ticking” on the rapture.

    “What will come soon [is] the antichrist and his seven year empire that will be destroyed in the battle of armageddon. Then Jesus Christ will set up his throne in the city of Jerusalem. He will establish a kingdom that will never end,” Hagee said.

    Hagee, despite having a long history of antisemitism – he has suggested Jews brought persecution upon themselves by upsetting God and called Hitler a “half-breed Jew” – founded Christians United for Israel in 2006.”

  23. “ Anyway, how can the Republicans run against Joe Biden on age or cognitive ability, when Trump is almost the same age and has demonstrated more instances of cognitive decline than Joe Biden could poke a stick at. Even if he got the wrong end of the stick!”

    Simple.

    Because it doesn’t matter. Hypocrisy is their stock in trade. Trump will never be judged by Republican-MAGA ‘the base’ according to any defect that is apparent to the rest of us. 45% of voting Americans WILL turn out and vote Trump IF he is on the ballot. Regardless of anything.

    Cognitive decline? Hunter’s laptop? Her emails? Goldman Sacks? It’s all designed to dox democrats and these narratives run hand in glove with other voter suppression tactics. The republicans have had 50 years practice to perfect dividing democrats amongst themselves and it works!

    Slow moving train wreck. Trump 2.0 is going to happen.

  24. Possibly the quote is an adaption of the song lyric line from “Loch Lomond”. Though obviously reversed and the road removed.

    O ye’ll tak’ the high road, and I’ll tak’ the low road,

    From the Jacobite rebellion period of Scottish history.

  25. A few quick thoughts on Nemesis, now that I’ve been able to see all three episodes.

    ScoMo, despite his multitudinous faults, still seemed to me to have been potentially the most effective PM of the three protagonists. His fundamental flaw was a lack of maturity which at times led him to make the most appalling judgements: going to Hawaii, saying he “didn’t hold a hose”, AUKUS, the ludicrous decision to get himself sworn into multiple ministries (although where were on earth were the public servants during all that nonsense?), bringing religion into politics, etc, etc. Perhaps if he’d been forced to cool his heels for a few more years before becoming PM, he might have been more successful. Even last night, he showed on occasions how good a communicator he could be when he was at his best.

    Abbott will always be a bit of a joke. A silly man who instinctively made poor judgements, other than that of allowing Peta Credlin to use him as a ventriloquist’s doll, which worked out very well for him. As it turned out, it was an decision on which he did not consult Credlin – that of making Prince Philip a knight – which led to his downfall.

    Turnbull is an enigma. He behaves like he is the lord of the manor, even though his background was nothing all that flash: his father was a wool classer (which the members of the squattocracy I have known would see as being the “hired help”) and his mother a writer of radio soap operas turned academic. So where did his sense of great self-importance come from? I crossed his path in the late 1970s and he was exactly the same back then, or perhaps even a bit more so (I think Lucy has been a moderating influence).

    I know Menzies got away with a bit of noblesse oblige back in the day, but he also projected some humility. Turnbull always struggled to do that, and it was interesting to hear the observations from some of his colleagues about just how badly this went down with the public during the 2o16 election campaign.

    Quite clearly, we are far better off without any of them. A great waste of a decade thanks mainly to the ridiculous self-indulgence of Labor in the R-G-R period.

  26. Ven @ #778 Tuesday, February 13th, 2024 – 1:30 pm

    Isn’t it true that evangelicals, who believe rapture will happen, expect something to happen in Arab world for that to happen?

    They not only expect it, many try to hasten it. They try to con God into a premature eschatology. What type of people would worship a supreme being that was such a gullible fool?

  27. Lars Von Trier:

    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 1:18 pm

    [‘If my beloved great aunts Mathilde or Eunice were still with us, they could also provide corroboration.’]

    I’d like to take the opportunity to convey my condolences to you on the sad occasion of the death of your great aunts Mathilde & Eunice. My maiden aunt Maude recently died at the age of 101. And while a grant of probate has yet to be issued, her executor has written to me from Plymouth to advise that I’m a beneficiary of her will – not that I’m at all interested in being bequeathed not an insubstantial sum.

  28. I see the imputation of ESL – recently introduced here by leftieBrawler – is now taking hold amongst the partisans.

    This seems to be a way of putting down those you don’t agree with but cannot refute using rational arguments, by implying that they are not really “people like us”.

  29. meher babasays:
    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 1:37 pm

    Quite clearly, we are far better off without any of them. A great waste of a decade thanks mainly to the ridiculous self-indulgence of Labor in the R-G-R period.
    =================================================

    A very good critique, even if i don’t 100% agree on the Smirko assessment. Certainly Labor began the revolving door of leaders. Then the LNP, having seen how deleterious it was to them. Went ahead and did exactly the same. It does remind me of the quote.

    “Who’s the more foolish; the fool, or the fool who follows him?”

  30. BTSayssays:
    Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:54 pm
    Asha

    Yes, there are ‘other ways’ – and they are deploying them too.

    If you’ve got better ideas of how to exterminate Hamas quicker, sure the Israeli military would be pleased to hear from you.

    It’s also worth being nuanced enough to take account of how Israel are taking steps to minimise civilian casualties – which would otherwise surely be much higher – but obviously they can’t lose the element of surprise completely or they’d never get the people they’re after.

    Could Israel do somewhat better at minimising civilian casualites without losing anything in the hunt for Hamas? I’m not sure, but quite possibly.

    But I can never accept your insinuation that somehow Israel is the one to be called out for the civilian losses, or that somehow they are equally to blame with Hamas.

    If it were another nation not Israel, the suggestion wouldn’t even come up, but twas ever thus. Israel has many enemies in the media and internationally.
    ===========================================================
    And you are exempt from the moratorium because?

  31. Mavis @ #761 Tuesday, February 13th, 2024 – 1:10 pm

    While polls indicate that most voters think Biden’s too old & decrepit to run, such is not necessarily an indication of how they’ll vote come election day. I think Biden will win handsomely. And, apart from a serious health issue befalling him, it’s too late now for another candidate such as the suave, articulate Newsom to run.

    Mavis, such optimism is admirable. But the question then is, will “normalcy” prevail, which was your last, dare I say, wayward prediction. (disclaimer: no, like it didn’t this last time).

    And no body should overlook that if it’s a Biden/Harris ticket, which is all but inevitable imo unless she withdraws, then it’s getting into double jeopardy.

    fred posted this a few days ago. It’s one of many helping explain what a mess they are in, of their own doing, and it’s not top down.

    https://youtu.be/v5MI5VkcoAk?si=z1bhUBaSfW4IV0-P

    (commonwealth club of california is really excellent)

  32. e.g.w.

    And you are exempt from the moratorium because?

    ____________________________________________

    Not. Someone else broke the moratorium first. More importantly, you don’t re-post something from 18 hours ago in its entirety and complain that the author is breaching the moratorium.

  33. Car companies are reacting to the new emissions policy. Three are in favour, and are keen to brign more EVs to the Aussie market. They are VW, Kia and Hyundai. But others are opposed:

    “But industry sources have told the ABC that European, Korean and electric vehicle brands are broadly lining up behind the government’s proposed scheme, while American and Japanese brands are more hesitant.

    Senior industry figures are gathering today at a board meeting of the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI), which is made up of executives from several major car brands, including Toyota, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Ford, Honda, Hyundai and Tesla.”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-13/car-bosses-meet-for-crisis-talks-on-vehicle-efficiency-standard/103456868

    Obviously, the main culprits will be Toyota, Mazda, Mitsubishi and Nissan. Ford might be neutral, because they have more EVs in the US market they could bring here, and the rules proposed are very similar to the existing US emission rules.

    The point is, climate change aside, the policy is correct. We are importing >$30 billion of oil per annum. Toyota, Mazda, Mitsubishi and Nissan need to stop dumping their least efficient vehicles here.

  34. That is a very long bow you draw there P1.

    Firstly, don’t bring me into it;

    Secondly I’d counter you are confusing genuine curiosity and the showing of interest in people with ridicule and othering

  35. Anyway, how can the Republicans run against Joe Biden on age or cognitive ability, when Trump is almost the same age and has demonstrated more instances of cognitive decline than Joe Biden could poke a stick at. Even if he got the wrong end of the stick!

    @C@tmomma

    Omarosa Manigault Newman who was a contestant in the first season of The Apprentice, and took a role in Trump’s administration. Has made suggestions in her book that Trump was no where near as sharp as he was on The Apprentice when he was president. She suggested Trump was a man in “mental decline,” who would “forget from one day to the next”.

    The Right (Fox news, Newsmax etc) and Republicans in general should be wary about going down this path. Democrat presidential nominee Walter Mondale admitted he had heard rumors about Ronald Reagan’s Alzheimer when he ran for president against Reagan in 1984. He declined to go down that path and use them.

    https://people.com/politics/omarosa-claims-donald-trump-in-mental-decline/

  36. I’d be worried about trade wars….
    Why?

    Global stability. Global economy. Rapid change of international relationship balance points. Knee jerk reactions in domestic politics around the world. Insane reactions that exacerbate climate change and environmental destruction.

    I believe that the world is over globalised. That we are too interdependent. And as such, some tweaking on international trade isn’t against my philosophy. But rapid and stupid change could be catastrophic with seen and unforeseen consequences.

  37. Much as I think it is grossly unfair, I think too many US voters have bought the near-senile image projected by the republicans in America and uncritically amplified by media that should know better.

    I rather like the idea, I think suggested by someone here, that Biden is a wily fox who will continue to run until the primaries are over, then bow out and leave his delegates to support someone else (perhaps someone he already has in mind). The GOP think the best thing going for a Trump candidacy is Biden; someone else will require a change of tack as well as throwing a new candidate into the competition that has not gone through months and months of vicious character assassination.

    Pure speculation on my part, but I do think objectively that Biden is not a good candidate, no matter how unfair that is (and it is really unfair when you look at what he has actually done).

  38. meher baba @ #781 Tuesday, February 13th, 2024 – 1:37 pm

    A few quick thoughts on Nemesis, now that I’ve been able to see all three episodes.

    ScoMo, despite his multitudinous faults, still seemed to me to have been potentially the most effective PM of the three protagonists.

    Morrison was a pathological and compulsive liar. He never succeeded in any venture, nor could he. Let alone become an effective PM. (disclaimer: haven’t watched it). I think what you are saying he was/is a master bull shit artist.

  39. ItzaDream:

    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 1:54 pm

    [‘Mavis, such optimism is admirable. But the question then is, will “normalcy” prevail, which was your last, dare I say, wayward prediction. (disclaimer: no, like it didn’t this last time).’]

    By nature, I’m an optimist. I’m not quite sure what you mean by my ‘last…wayward prediction’.

  40. TPOFsays:
    Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 1:56 pm
    e.g.w.

    And you are exempt from the moratorium because?

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    Not. Someone else broke the moratorium first. More importantly, you don’t re-post something from 18 hours ago in its entirety and complain that the author is breaching the moratorium.
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    Whom are you speaking for here?. The posters name on the original comment is not you though or is it?.

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