Essential Research 2PP+: Labor 51, Coalition 44 (open thread)

No significant movement on voting intention from the latest Essential Research poll, and a stronger yes vote on the Indigenous Voice than some other polling of late.

The reliable Essential Research has published its regular fortnightly poll, featuring federal voting intention numbers which, inclusive of a 5% undecided component (down one), have the Coalition up two points on the primary vote to draw level with an unchanged Labor on 32%. The pollster’s 2PP+ measure is nonetheless steady at 52% for Labor and 42% for the Coalition, presumably reflecting better preference flow for Labor than last time (UPDATE: It seems the Essential Research chart display is misfiring – for me, at least – by not extending to the latest numbers, which actually have Labor down a point to 51% and the Coalition up two to 44%), with the vagaries of rounding pushing undecided up a point to 6%. The Greens are unchanged at 14%, while One Nation is up one to 8%, the upper limit of their range through the current term.

The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from double its usual sample size at 2248 respondents, presumably to add extra muscle to state breakdowns from a question on the Indigenous Voice, which is framed around the wording to be used in the referendum. This records the yes vote at 47% nationally with no at 43%, with state breakdowns showing yes well in the clear in Victoria (48% to 39%) and South Australia (49% to 38%), well behind in Queensland (42% to 50%), and statistically tied in New South Wales (45% to 44% in favour of yes) and Western Australia (49% to 47% in favour of yes).

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. ‘Labor is telling voters in Fadden that “Stuart Robert’s disgraceful robodebt destroyed lives” in a string of negative social media ads targeting the outgoing MP’s legacy ahead of Saturday’s byelection.’

    But … but … Brother Stuie put the kibosh on Robodebt the very instant he realised it was dodgy … didn’t he?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/12/labor-targets-stuart-robert-and-his-handling-of-robodebt-in-negative-ads-before-fadden-byelection

  2. ‘The Net Zero Australia report, a partnership between major academic institutions and management consultancy Nous Group [!], says the federal government has a major role to play in accelerating all options that could make a “material contribution” to achieving net zero.’

    File under ‘statement of the bleeding obvious’, but anyway, yeah …

    ‘Nuclear power should not be in our plans, because it’s too expensive and slow’

    Peter Dutton sticks his fingers in his ears and sings “la-la-la!”.

    But … ‘carbon capture utilisation and storage (CCUS) is a “crucial component of a net zero strategy” despite the technology not having delivered meaningful emissions cuts to date.’

    Make of that what you will.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/11/nuclear-power-too-expensive-and-slow-to-be-part-of-australias-plans-to-reach-net-zero-study-finds

  3. Morning all. If the Libferals think the Robodebt publicity is bad now, wait till the court cases start and other taxpayers realise how much this will cost them.

    The commissioner found “elements of the tort of misfeasance in public office appear to exist”. That raises the prospect of damages claims by thousands of victims. This will cost billions.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-12/robodebt-victims-could-pursue-civil-case-against-ministers/102588756

  4. NATO’s Vilnius Summit Communiqué, the text of the points relevant to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Ukraine’s eventual membership of NATO, released overnight our time:

    7. Russia bears full responsibility for its illegal, unjustifiable, and unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine, which has gravely undermined Euro-Atlantic and global security and for which it must be held fully accountable. We continue to condemn in the strongest terms Russia’s blatant violations of international law, the Charter of the United Nations, and OSCE commitments and principles. We do not and will never recognise Russia’s illegal and illegitimate annexations, including Crimea. There can be no impunity for Russian war crimes and other atrocities, such as attacks against civilians and the destruction of civilian infrastructure that deprives millions of Ukrainians of basic human services. All those responsible must be held accountable for violations and abuses of human rights and international humanitarian law, particularly against Ukraine’s civilian population, including the forced deportation of children and conflict-related sexual violence. The destruction of the Kakhovka dam highlights the brutal consequences of the war started by Russia. Russia’s war has had a profound impact on the environment, nuclear safety, energy and food security, the global economy, and the welfare of billions of people around the world. Allies are working to enable exports of Ukrainian grain and actively support international efforts to alleviate the global food crisis.

    8. Russia must immediately stop this illegal war of aggression, cease its use of force against Ukraine, and completely and unconditionally withdraw all of its forces and equipment from the territory of Ukraine within its internationally recognised borders, extending to its territorial waters. We urge all countries not to provide any kind of assistance to Russia’s aggression and condemn all those who are actively facilitating Russia’s war. Belarus’ support has been instrumental as it continues to provide its territory and infrastructure to allow Russian forces to attack Ukraine and sustain Russia’s aggression. In particular Belarus, but also Iran, must end their complicity with Russia and return to compliance with international law.

    9. We welcome the strong support in the UN General Assembly for efforts to promote a comprehensive, just, and lasting peace in Ukraine. We welcome and support President Zelenskyy’s commitment in setting out the principles for such a peace through his Peace Formula. We are committed to achieving a just and lasting peace that upholds the principles of the UN Charter, in particular sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence. We underline that this cannot be realised without Russia’s complete and unconditional withdrawal. While we have called on Russia to engage constructively in credible negotiations with Ukraine, Russia has not shown any genuine openness to a just and lasting peace.

    10. We reaffirm our unwavering solidarity with the government and people of Ukraine in the heroic defence of their nation, their land, and our shared values. We fully support Ukraine’s inherent right to self-defence as enshrined in Article 51 of the UN Charter. We remain steadfast in our commitment to further step up political and practical support to Ukraine as it continues to defend its independence, sovereignty, and territorial integrity within its internationally recognised borders, and will continue our support for as long as it takes. We welcome efforts of all Allies and partners engaged in providing support to Ukraine.

    11. We fully support Ukraine’s right to choose its own security arrangements. Ukraine’s future is in NATO. We reaffirm the commitment we made at the 2008 Summit in Bucharest that Ukraine will become a member of NATO, and today we recognise that Ukraine’s path to full Euro-Atlantic integration has moved beyond the need for the Membership Action Plan. Ukraine has become increasingly interoperable and politically integrated with the Alliance, and has made substantial progress on its reform path. In line with the 1997 Charter on a Distinctive Partnership between NATO and Ukraine and the 2009 Complement, Allies will continue to support and review Ukraine’s progress on interoperability as well as additional democratic and security sector reforms that are required. NATO Foreign Ministers will regularly assess progress through the adapted Annual National Programme. The Alliance will support Ukraine in making these reforms on its path towards future membership. We will be in a position to extend an invitation to Ukraine to join the Alliance when Allies agree and conditions are met.

    12. The security of Ukraine is of great importance to Allies and the Alliance. To support Ukraine’s further integration with NATO, today we have agreed a substantial package of expanded political and practical support. We have decided to establish the NATO-Ukraine Council, a new joint body where Allies and Ukraine sit as equal members to advance political dialogue, engagement, cooperation, and Ukraine’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. It will provide for joint consultations, decision-making, and activities, and will also serve as a crisis consultation mechanism between NATO and Ukraine.

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_217320.htm

  5. Indeed, Soc. The standard story is that Robodebt settlements cost $1.8 billion: but, as I understand it, that was essentially just giving the ill-gotten gains back to the victims.

    Compensation (justified) for the half a million victims could cost a motza.

  6. Ukrainska Pravda’s report of NATO’s Communiqué in the Ukrainian press:

    “The NATO Summit in Vilnius that kicked off on 11 July has adopted a package of decisions consisting of three elements concerning Ukraine, mainly its way to NATO membership.

    Source: Jens Stoltenberg, NATO Secretary General, at the press conference following the first day of the summit, as reported by a correspondent of European Pravda

    Quote: “Today the allies adopted a package consisting of three elements, which will bring Ukraine closer to NATO. The first element is a new durable support program for Ukraine, which will make the transition from the Soviet to NATO standards in training and doctrines possible.”

    The second element is creating the new Ukraine-NATO council, which will be a forum for consulting and making decisions, where Ukraine and NATO members will “meet as equals”, Stoltenberg explained.

    “The third element – we have confirmed that Ukraine will become a member of NATO, and agreed to waive the Membership Action Plan. This will make Ukraine’s accession a one-step process instead of a two-step one. We have also made it that we will announce about the invitation of Ukraine to NATO, when the allies agree, and the conditions are fulfilled.”

    Stoltenberg assured that this is a strong package for Ukraine and a direct way to its NATO membership.

    Background: On 10 July, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, President of Ukraine, harshly criticised the discussions about Ukraine’s potential path towards NATO, having written: “Uncertainty is weakness.”

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410859/

  7. The Kyiv Independent’s report on NATO’s Communiqué:

    “NATO allies adopted a three-part support package for Ukraine, which includes removing the requirement to undergo the Membership Action Plan, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said during the Vilnius summit on July 11.

    Ukraine will receive an invitation to join NATO when “the allies agree, and conditions are met,” Stoltenberg said at the summit’s press conference without providing further details.

    “This is a strong package for Ukraine. And a clear path towards its membership in NATO,” he added, reaffirming that Ukraine “will become a member of NATO.”

    Under the package, NATO will provide Ukraine with a multi-year assistance program to enable the country’s transition from Soviet-era to NATO equipment and standards, develop its security and defense sector, and cover Ukraine’s critical needs, such as fuel, demining equipment, and medical supplies.

    Allies are also establishing the NATO-Ukraine Council, “a forum for crisis consultations and decision-making, where we will meet as equals,” as described by Stoltenberg.

    President Volodymyr Zelensky, who arrived in the Lithuanian capital on July 11, did not attend the leaders’ meeting on July 11 but is scheduled to join the inaugural meeting of the new Council the next day. Zelensky will also hold a bilateral meeting with Stoltenberg, followed by a joint press conference.

    While en route to Vilnius, Zelensky said that he had “received signals that certain wording is being discussed without Ukraine,” noting that the “wording is about the invitation to become NATO member, not about Ukraine’s membership.”

    “It’s unprecedented and absurd when a time frame is not set neither for the invitation nor for Ukraine’s membership. While at the same time vague wording about ‘conditions’ is added even for inviting Ukraine,” the president tweeted.

    Ukraine applied for a fast-track accession to NATO in September 2022, half a year after Russia started the full-scale invasion.

    While acknowledging the country cannot enter the alliance before the war’s end, Kyiv has repeatedly called for an invitation or a “clear signal” on the membership from the allies at the Vilnius summit.”

    https://kyivindependent.com/vilnius-summit-brings-ukraine-closer-to-nato-but-direct-invitation-withheld/

  8. Oliver Sutton

    “ Compensation (justified) for the half a million victims could cost a motza.”

    Exactly. Once you accept the actions were criminal and all losses compensatable, you have over 800 wrongful deaths and several hundred thousand financial victims, who all suffered stress and harassment. If you said a million per wrongful death and $10k per financial victim, you are looking at $5 to $10 billion.

    The Commonwealth needs to appoint somebody to do an actuarial estimate of costs and cut a deal. Adding court costs would send this bill ballistic.

  9. The government of Papua New Guinea is under pressure to abandon a security agreement with the US after an American research team working off its coast “stole” fragments of a mysterious interstellar comet from the sea bed.

    The leader of the opposition, Joseph Lelang, is demanding that a team led by the Harvard University astrophysicist Professor Avi Loeb return the pieces of the meteor that plunged into the sea in 2014 off the remote Manus Island.

    In a statement to be made today, and obtained by The Times, he says that the incident undermines trust in Americans. It comes at a time when the US is trying to strengthen its security links with the country to counter the growing influence of China in the Pacific.

  10. What a gormless fool with the intellectual depth of a puddle, you are, Andrew_Earlwood. No considered criticism of what I wrote, just another of your caustic put-downs in place of something serious to say. Is it any wonder that you are getting a reputation here, and not a good one?

  11. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    Ross Gittins describes robodebt as another cynical cycle in our dirty laundry politics. A good read.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/robo-debt-another-cynical-cycle-in-our-dirty-laundry-politics-20230711-p5dna3.html
    Angus Thompson reports that the law firm that ran the robodebt class action has flagged it may sue former Coalition ministers unless the Albanese government agrees to new compensation for victims of the unlawful welfare crackdown.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/former-ministers-could-face-more-legal-action-in-robo-debt-compensation-bid-20230711-p5dn9u.html
    These law academics explain what the ‘tort of misfeasance’ is and how might it apply in the case of robodebt. they believe there is strong evidentiary support for claims in misfeasance in public office and victims should be encouraged to make claims and are encouraged to hear a class action is already being considered on this basis.
    https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-the-tort-of-misfeasance-and-how-might-it-apply-in-the-case-of-robodebt-209507
    Michael Pascoe reckons the robodebt culture lives on under Labor.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2023/07/12/labor-robodebt-culture-pascoe/
    Something has gone horribly wrong in how customers are treated. We all know it. Peter Mills traces the problem back to how executives and business leaders are incentivised: KPIs (Key Performance Indicators). YES!!!!!!!!! As I often said during my working life, “Punk measures give punk outcomes.”
    https://michaelwest.com.au/want-to-fix-productivity-kill-kpis-they-reward-executives-for-cutting-costs-and-delivering-poor-customer-experience/
    The questioning by a Federal Court judge of the arrangements between the financial crime watchdog and casino giant Crown Resorts over the payment of a $450 million fine for breaching anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism laws is a salient reminder of the risk that regulators run in becoming captive to those they are policing, says the SMH editorial.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/regulators-hardly-covered-in-glory-amid-corporate-scandals-20230711-p5dnbp.html
    Australian citizens, refugees and migrants have been unlawfully held in immigration detention centres for periods ranging from a few days to more than six years because of administration errors and faulty processes within federal agencies. Charlotte Grieve reports that immigration lawyers have called for more investment in the department’s technology systems and an overhaul of migration laws to ensure no one slips through the cracks, as unlawful detention is both unethical and exposes the government to financial penalties.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/home-affairs-unlawfully-held-115-people-over-five-years-20230707-p5dmgz.html
    The dominance of big firms is making the economy less responsive to interest rates and could require unemployment to rise more than expected, says Labor frontbencher Andrew Leigh. Michael Read outline what Leigh is getting at.
    https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/big-business-is-making-rba-s-job-on-rates-harder-leigh-20230711-p5dnb3
    Labor is telling voters in Fadden that “Stuart Robert’s disgraceful robodebt destroyed lives” in a string of negative social media ads targeting the outgoing MP’s legacy ahead of Saturday’s byelection. Paul Karp reports that Queensland Labor argues the byelection is a chance to hold the Liberal National party accountable for robodebt in ads posted to Google and Meta’s platforms Facebook and Instagram which rolled out from last Friday.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/12/labor-targets-stuart-robert-and-his-handling-of-robodebt-in-negative-ads-before-fadden-byelection
    Josh Butler writes that just four Closing the Gap targets are on track and another four are going backwards, according to the latest data, with the Indigenous Australians minister, Linda Burney, saying the proposed voice to parliament is needed to help fix the problems.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/12/closing-the-gap-just-four-targets-on-track-with-four-going-backwards-in-latest-report
    Michaela Whitbourn and Callum Jaspan write that Ben Roberts-Smith is seeking to overturn damning findings that he murdered unarmed prisoners in Afghanistan as part of an appeal against a landmark judgment dismissing his multimillion-dollar defamation case. A “Hail Mary”?
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/roberts-smith-launches-appeal-against-historic-defamation-loss-20230711-p5dnfi.html
    Still on her high horse, Janet Albrechtsen writes, “If the referendum is successful, we can be sure corporate boards will crow about being on the right side of history … If it fails, what will they do then?”
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/what-happens-to-the-boardroom-activists-if-the-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-fails/news-story/bbade8e4c9b7fe6a3fac640f878dbd7a?amp
    The no campaign is playing political Bazball with the voice, while the yes side moves at its own methodical pace, says Peter Lewis.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2023/jul/11/the-no-campaign-is-playing-political-bazball-with-the-voice-while-the-yes-side-moves-at-its-own-methodical-pace
    According to Rachel Clun, a likely replacement for current Reserve Bank governor Philip Lowe is expected to be announced as soon as this week, as the economy continues to slow off the back of 12 interest rate rises and high inflation.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/rba-governor-decision-likely-this-week-20230711-p5dnbe.html
    It seems the disgraced Australian casino industry may have met its match in Federal Court Justice Michael Lee, who is at least attempting to apply a touch of rigour and verify the validity of Crown Resorts crying poor, writes Elizabeth Knight in an interesting contribution.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/fine-now-pay-later-crown-austrac-bait-and-switch-blown-apart-20230711-p5dnf3.html
    Hotels are booming and charging a fortune because they can, opines travel consultant Lee Tulloch.
    https://www.smh.com.au/traveller/travel-news/hotels-are-booming-and-charging-a-fortune-because-they-can-20230703-p5dl8z.html
    More property owners are looking to sell this winter, as soaring mortgage repayments stretch some households’ finances beyond what they can manage. Elizabeth Redman writes that the unseasonal uptick in new listings numbers is modest so far and concentrated in investor-heavy inner cities and mortgage-belt outer suburbs, but more listings are expected in the coming months.
    https://www.theage.com.au/property/news/the-graph-that-shows-stressed-property-owners-may-be-starting-to-crack-20230710-p5dn6z.html
    Latika Bourke writes that Australia says it will know by the end of the year if it can strike a deal with the EU after failing to resolve five years of talks in Brussels yesterday.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/australia-and-eu-fail-to-resolve-deadlock-pledge-to-resume-talks-in-august-20230711-p5dnk0.html
    Michael McGowan tells us that NSW Health Minister Ryan Park has vowed to rein in spending on private firms profiting off the health worker shortage. And so he should!
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/nsw-government-promises-crackdown-on-unsustainable-cost-of-temporary-doctors-20230710-p5dn46.html
    Some of Australia’s biggest consulting firms will not follow PwC’s lead and ban donations to political parties, despite pressure to do so from public integrity experts and some senators.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/12/pwc-scandal-kpmg-deloitte-ban-political-donations
    Nuclear power should not form part of Australia’s plans to reach net zero emissions because it is too expensive and slow, according to the final report of a project that models how Australia might meet its 2050 climate target. Lisa Cox writes that the Net Zero Australia report, a partnership between major academic institutions and management consultancy Nous Group, says the federal government has a major role to play in accelerating all options that could make a “material contribution” to achieving net zero.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/11/nuclear-power-too-expensive-and-slow-to-be-part-of-australias-plans-to-reach-net-zero-study-finds
    Anxious apartment owners fearing they will be left destitute by the possible collapse of embattled construction company Toplace are expected to know whether it will survive by next week after it was placed into the hands of administrators. This latest development plunges thousands of apartment owners across Sydney into uncertainty with a number of Toplace projects still under construction, and a series of ongoing court battles over alleged serious defects in towers that have already been built.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/we-ll-be-destitute-sydney-apartment-owners-panicked-as-toplace-empire-crumbles-20230711-p5dnhk.html
    New data shows that Sydney consumed more cocaine in December than any other time in the past two years.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/sydney-hits-particularly-high-cocaine-level-ending-two-year-decline-20230711-p5dnad.html
    The recovery of 140 threatened species in Victoria depends on the restoration of environmental flows in the Murray-Darling basin, according to new research commissioned by Environment Victoria.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/12/murray-darling-basin-environmental-flows-found-to-be-key-to-saving-140-species-at-risk-of-extinction
    Don’t miss out on the headlines from SA News. Followed categories will be added to My News. A battle over reading aloud a Christian prayer has again played out at Adelaide City Council with one rebel councillor persisting with the historic practice.
    https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/allegations-of-censorship-are-the-latest-in-a-council-dispute-about-reading-a-christian-prayer-at-meetings/news-story/3eb747773bcf378f13d4580838ba4ea5
    Councillor Henry Davis was again on Tuesday night rebuked for reading a prayer in defiance of the ban, and has accused the council of religious discrimination.
    Farrah Tomazin reports that a Republican Senator is blocking the promotions of hundreds of US military officers – including some of the nation’s top brass – due to his objection to the Pentagon allowing women to take leave or travel if they need an abortion. America is f****d!
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/us-senator-blocks-hundreds-of-military-promotions-over-reproductive-rights-20230712-p5dnk6.html
    A US thinktank chief who accuses Joe Biden of China-linked corruption involving his son, Hunter Biden, and who has been presented by Republicans as a “missing” witness against the president, was charged with China-linked offenses including failing to register as a foreign agent, arms trafficking and violations of sanctions on Iran.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/11/gal-luft-biden-china-agent-charged

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  12. Treasurer Jim Chalmers says the $20 billion budget surplus did not come at the expense of helping people, The Australian reports. He says the budget surplus, which was nearly five times the original figure of $4.2 billion, “is in addition to, not instead of, cost-of-living relief”, as the AFR reports. And yet our JobSeeker rate ($693.10 a fortnight for a single) remains nowhere near the poverty line, and nor does the pension ($971.50 a fortnight), as Guardian Australia explains. Still, we did see a couple of bumps to welfare: an energy bill discount, and cheaper medicines in the budget. Chalmers says he was very conscious of not creating more inflation with cost-of-living measures, and it seems it worked — according to Reserve Bank of Australia governor Philip Lowe, anyway, who backed Labor’s claim the measures were deflationary.

  13. Socrates @ #7 Wednesday, July 12th, 2023 – 6:52 am

    Morning all. If the Libferals think the Robodebt publicity is bad now, wait till the court cases start and other taxpayers realise how much this will cost them.

    The commissioner found “elements of the tort of misfeasance in public office appear to exist”. That raises the prospect of damages claims by thousands of victims. This will cost billions.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-12/robodebt-victims-could-pursue-civil-case-against-ministers/102588756

    I’m wondering if the AFP could be a party to that claim by allowing themselves to have their badge affixed to the letters of claim from welfare recipients?

  14. maybi the liberals would like to refer the robodebt compensation claims to the anti ceruption comition renyalds believes in transperincy only if it involves saving her senate seat her term as a wa senater expires at the next election

  15. unfortunatly for news corp palasczuk and andrews have lasted longer then any of the nsw liberal premiers in my gold standard state of nsw andrews and palaszuk are the longist serving premiers in there states

  16. but after all the damage to somyurek how did skty news and herald sun manage to help him secure an upper house seat despite jefrey wotsons prodictions of criminal chargesthe anti ceruption body were unable to find anything criminal somyurek and his backkers did but he has shown he was never realy a labor man only interested in power happy to be a pupit of theherald sun and credlin if it means he can haveanother term in parliament butbuy the time of the next election he will be likely to loose his seat

  17. Welcome to the Anthropocene, Earth’s new chapter

    https://phys-org.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/phys.org/news/2023-07-anthropocene-earth-chapter.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16890967373498&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fphys.org%2Fnews%2F2023-07-anthropocene-earth-chapter.html

    “Crutzen, who earned a Nobel for identifying the manmade chemicals destroying the protective ozone layer, hoped the concept and reality of the Anthropocene would focus minds on the challenges ahead.

    “It could well be a paradigm shift in scientific thinking,” he said at a symposium in 2011.

    A dozen years later, many of the scientists who look at how the strands of the Earth system intersect agree.

    “It’s the recognition that, ‘Oh my God, we have tipping points. Oh my God, the Holocene is the only state that can support us,'” Johan Rockstrom, head of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, told AFP.

    “The paradigm shift is the realization that we’re leaving the Holocene and entering the Anthropocene.”

  18. Pretty remarkable if those advising the Commonwealth did not shut down the prospect of future claims at the time it settled the Robodebt class action.

  19. World’s biggest economies in 2075, projected by Goldman Sachs:

    China: $57 trillion
    India: $52.5 trillion
    United States: $51.5 trillion
    Indonesia: $13.7 trillion
    Nigeria: $13.1 trillion
    Pakistan: $12.3 trillion
    Egypt: $10.4 trillion
    Brazil: $8.7 trillion
    Germany: $8.1 trillion
    Mexico: $7.6 trillion
    UK: $7.6 trillion
    Japan: $7.5 trillion
    Russia: $6.9 trillion
    Philippines: $6.6 trillion
    France: $6.5 trillion
    Bangladesh: $6.3 trillion
    Ethiopia: $6.2 trillion
    Saudi Arabia: $6.1 trillion
    Canada: $5.2 trillion
    Turkey: $5.2 trillion
    Australia: $4.3 trillion

  20. Scottsays:
    Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 6:21 am
    Any swing against LNP in the safe seat of Fadden , is politically disastrous for Peter Dutton and his cronies.
    _____________________
    Look out the oracle has spoken.

  21. Clive Palmer dives for gold, $41bn worth
    Clive Palmer’s company Zeph Investments claims the
    Commonwealth breached a free trade agreement over coal exploration permits and wants $41 billion in damages, and according to Indigenous Bunurong oral history, Harold Holt is swimming in mermaid country

    https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/07/11/clive-palmer-damages-sues-commonwealth-41-bn/

    “Clive Palmer has accused the Commonwealth of breaching our ASEAN free trade agreement in regards to coal exploration permits, Guardian Australia reports, in a whopping $41.3 billion damages claim brought by his company Zeph Investment. The Commonwealth’s silks dismissed the allegation as completely “unsubstantiated”. If this is ringing a bell, it may be because Zeph is already suing over another alleged ASEAN breach regarding WA stopping Palmer from getting compo over his Pilbara project — at the time, WA said it may have bankrupted the state coffers, as the ABC explains. I tells ya, Palmer’s lawyers must be living the high life. The Attorney-General’s Department has revealed the mining billionaire and his many companies have launched more than 30 court cases against the WA government and the Commonwealth “in recent years”, The West Australian ($) reports, where Palmer personally was the plaintiff in nearly half (12). But the department said the number could be higher, because a search for all his company names was not “feasible”.

    To more fossil fuel news and a new code of conduct for the sale of LNG on the east coast kicks in today, the AFR ($) reports. It enforces the $12 a gigajoule cap on wholesale prices first introduced in December, but also includes price cap exemptions for smaller producers who sell to us rather than overseas. The rules put “government at the centre of the gas market”, the Australia Petroleum Production & Exploration Association (APPEA) said in a statement via Reuters, and urgently called for investment in gas to avoid shortages.”

  22. Taylormade says:
    Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:26 am
    Scottsays:
    Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 6:21 am
    Any swing against LNP in the safe seat of Fadden , is politically disastrous for Peter Dutton and his cronies.
    _____________________
    Look out the oracle has spoken.

    ——————————-
    LOL Taylormade

    It could be like when Abbott faced an empty chair leadership spill, there were votes for empty chair

  23. I’m no replacement for the world’s most legendary soothsayer, but I predict there will be about a 3-4% swing away from the LNP in Fadden.

    Of course, the LNP, the MMM (Mainstream MurdochRag Media) and the local papers will frame an LNP retention by any margin to be a win for them and an inditement to Albanese, the Voice and the “Left” in general. “Left” here referring to anything left of Voldemort.

  24. Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Houten has been released from prison after serving 53 years for her role in two murders, ABC 7 reported. “Van Houten’s freedom comes after the California parole board recommended her for release multiple times since 2016. Gov. Gavin Newsom and former Gov. Jerry Brown opposed her parole each time, but Newsom announced last week he would stop fighting when it seemed apparent the courts were unlikely to side with him,” ABC 7’s report stated.

    Van Houten was serving a life sentence for helping Manson and other followers carry out the 1969 killings of Leno LaBianca, a grocer in Los Angeles, and his wife, Rosemary.

  25. The seven hottest days on record, in terms of global temperature, took place in the past week.

    July 6 – 17.23°C / 63°F
    July 7 – 17.2°C / 62.96°F
    July 4 – 17.18°C / 62.93°F
    July 5 – 17.18°C / 62.92°F
    July 8 – 17.17°C / 62.9°F
    July 10 – 17.12°C / 62.81°F
    July 9 – 17.11°C / 62.79°F


  26. Ross Gittins describes robodebt as another cynical cycle in our dirty laundry politics. A good read.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/robo-debt-another-cynical-cycle-in-our-dirty-laundry-politics-20230711-p5dna3.html

    BK
    I don’t agree with that description. It actually goes against the tenets of modern Western countries democracies i.e our system of governance is to take care of our people even if results in destruction of other countries people.
    To put it nicely to protect our way of life.
    Here we are actually destroying the lives of Australian people. That is the reason it is so horrible.


  27. Michael Pascoe reckons the robodebt culture lives on under Labor.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2023/07/12/labor-robodebt-culture-pascoe/

    “Confession – I’m guilty of the journalistic crime of burying the lede last week. Instead of the RBA flogging a dead horse, I should have led with:

    A 1°C rise in temperature during El Nino lifts global food prices by more than 6 per cent after one year, according to European Central Bank (ECB) research. We’re entering an El Nino event and climate change is making our El Ninos hotter.

    What’s more, other ECB analysis finds just your standard-or-disastrous level of expected climate change will cause food inflation of about 1-3 per cent every year out to 2035.”

    “The Robodebt culture continues to thrive under the Albanese government – our politicians lying for the sake of politics and budget numbers, public servants and consultants playing along with the lie because that’s what they get paid for, doing what the politicians want.

    An ongoing lie
    Unlike Robodebt, the particular lie I’m focussing on here isn’t resulting in hundreds of thousands of individuals being tortured by debt collectors for debts they don’t owe, but it will cause plenty of individual suffering down the track.

    The ongoing lie with all the hallmarks of Robodebt-style denial and obfuscation is that the Australian Carbon Credit Units (ACCU) scheme run by the Clean Energy Regulator is doing a good job, is not wasting many hundreds of millions of dollars on dud “carbon farming” projects, is not simple greenwashing.

    Why would the government lie about such things? Because the ACCU scheme is at the core of its “safeguard mechanism”, the sad shadow of a carbon price started by the previous government and now the core of the Albanese government’s pledge to achieve net-zero carbon emissions by 2050.”

  28. EA, thanks for posting those statements at 7:06. Lots of words. But only a few that mean anything.

    These are hopeful.

    Ukraine’s future is in NATO.

    [NATO] do not and will never recognise Russia’s illegal and illegitimate annexations, including Crimea.

    [NATO will remain] steadfast in our commitment to further step up political and practical support to Ukraine … for as long as it takes.

    These are less so.

    [NATO] will support Ukraine in making … reforms on its path towards future membership.

    [NATO] have decided to establish the NATO-Ukraine Council, … where Allies and Ukraine … advance political dialogue, engagement, cooperation, and Ukraine’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO.

    I don’t want to be too naive, or too cynical either, but the summit now has the feeling of theatre. The announcements of additional weapons for Ukraine and increased military spending by NATO members have already been made. The statements in the communique won’t be walked back either. In practical terms it is over, though I expect Zelensky will try.

    What hasn’t changed is that until Ukraine drives Russia out, and that explicitly includes Crimea, there can be no membership in NATO. And I’m guessing that a further condition will include demonstrating that Ukraine can keep Russia out. The sweetner, if you can call it that, is that Ukraine can attend some NATO meetings, using the cover of a new council. There is a seat at the table, if you will. Though there will no doubt be meetings where the chair is empty, cynically because the meeting doesn’t concern the council. Nevertheless, it is an opening and how Ukraine uses that chair will be interesting. And so in the short term I guess the focus will be on that council. What are its parameters?

  29. I had a look. Nope, Stephen Bartholomeusz doesn’t write for the Readers Digest. 😐

    China’s economic authorities have a problem. They are confronted with the threat of deflation and the prospect of “Japanification”, or the decades of economic stagnation from which Japan is only just emerging.

    This week’s inflation data showed consumer price inflation at zero last month and factory gate prices falling 5.4 per cent (year-on-year), their ninth successive monthly decline.

    Chinese President Xi Jinping’s ambition of toppling the US as the dominant global power is on shaky ground.

    Apart from a brief moment of deflation in early 2021, when pork prices were tumbling, it’s the first time since the 2008 financial crisis that China has experienced deflation.

    This time, the challenges the economy is confronting owe more to domestic developments and structural issues than they do to external settings, although the weakening global growth environment isn’t helping.

    The core of the problem, and a factor that complicates efforts to respond to it, is debt. China has too much of it.

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/australia-could-pay-dearly-for-china-s-mistakes-20230711-p5dn9o.html


  30. Holdenhillbillysays:
    Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:19 am
    World’s biggest economies in 2075, projected by Goldman Sachs:

    China: $57 trillion
    India: $52.5 trillion
    United States: $51.5 trillion
    Indonesia: $13.7 trillion
    Nigeria: $13.1 trillion
    Pakistan: $12.3 trillion
    Egypt: $10.4 trillion
    Brazil: $8.7 trillion
    Germany: $8.1 trillion
    Mexico: $7.6 trillion
    UK: $7.6 trillion
    Japan: $7.5 trillion
    Russia: $6.9 trillion
    Philippines: $6.6 trillion
    France: $6.5 trillion
    Bangladesh: $6.3 trillion
    Ethiopia: $6.2 trillion
    Saudi Arabia: $6.1 trillion
    Canada: $5.2 trillion
    Turkey: $5.2 trillion
    Australia: $4.3 trillion

    I think Goldman Sachs is as usual dodgy in its prediction and analysis.
    It is hard to believe Australia’s economic size will be worse than Nigeria, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Ethiopia because they are on the verge of total collapse.

  31. ABC News is discussing Anthropocene epoch which I posted @
    Vensays:
    Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:55 am
    Welcome to the Anthropocene,

  32. The leader of the opposition, Joseph Lelang, is demanding that a team led by the Harvard University astrophysicist Professor Avi Loeb return the pieces of the meteor that plunged into the sea in 2014 off the remote Manus Island.

    Avi Loeb claimed that ‘Oumuamua (1I/2017 U1) was alien technology, and is doubling down on similar claims about CNEOS 2014-01-08 (IM1) based on a few dozen sub-millimetre iron spherules plucked from the sea floor.

    Harvard U. should stick to business studies.


    (Not Avi Loeb.)


  33. shellbellsays:
    Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:18 am
    Pretty remarkable if those advising the Commonwealth did not shut down the prospect of future claims at the time it settled the Robodebt class action.

    shellbell
    It is unfortunate if you think that the previous A-T-M governments had been normal Western government. Whatever they did will make one’s mouth open and close like a fish at regular intervals in astonishment.
    They devised 4 of the worst public administration policies during those 9 years
    Robodebt scheme
    AUKUS deal
    S3 Tax cuts
    Nauru refugee camps

    So it least remarkable if those advising the Commonwealth did not shut down the prospect of future claims at the time it settled the Robodebt class action.

  34. Along with the Liberal Party (as distinct from the National Party and the Liberal National Party in rural Queensland) MSM is fighting for any relevance

    Hence its investment in the “No” case in the upcoming Referendum and their continuing attacks on Labor administrations

    Hopefully MSM will receive a further audit of what Australians really think of it – and a terminal audit (they have not been bought to account by there now being only 1 Coalition government across Australia and the landslide results which have delivered that status)

    It is we’ll time for diversity across media not the feral concentration we see and which attempts to influence as it does

    And in regards their focus on housing and now “empty bedrooms”, we have a home of 7 bedrooms (now deployed to a Parent’s Retreat, a sewing room , an office, a playroom and 2 sleeping rooms for grandchildren sleep overs)

    So, if we sold to purchase a 1 bedroom home for the 2 of us, how would that suit our extended needs and who would buy our home to utilise each of the bedrooms, so reducing the number of “empty bedrooms’?

    More abject nonsense from MSM (and promoted by who?)

    Plus, when “For Sale” signs are put on properties in our neighbourhood, they are immediately sold

    So who is under housing duress and why and who are those purchasing (yes, at the price tags because that is the market)

  35. Unlikely.

    In the earlier part of the Rudd Government all states and territory governments were held by Labor.

    There is, to my knowledge, no formal process for the mainstream media to ever receive an “audit”, let alone a “terminal” one. In the meantime, it can continue to deceive the majority of the public, especially non-college educated people, with impunity, as right-wing regimes do NOT need results to be elected, they only need to be hostile to those who their target audience are hostile to.

  36. From the Conversation article.

    Justice Bernard Murphy described robodebt as a “shameful chapter” in public administration, but he did not believe there was sufficient evidence to prove the government knew the scheme was unlawful when it was ‘established’
    There is little in the materials to indicate that the evidence rises to that level […] I am reminded of the aphorism that, given a choice between a stuff-up, even a massive one, and a conspiracy, one should usually choose a stuff-up.

    Murphy seems to be off the mark.. the aphorisms is irrelevant & ‘when established’ is also irrelevant.. even if true they had ample opportunity to amend/ rescind their actions afterward & chose not to.. that is then issue.

    It would be good to see a class action to proceed & to be brought against ministers & public servants at a personal level..

  37. Just 13 per cent of voters think Anthony Albanese is doing enough to address cost-of-living pressures and only a quarter believe the economy is being managed well, according to secret industry polling.

    “secret industry polling” Pfft, my sibling, who lives in Yowie Bay (Scomo country) polled his neighbours and 100% said they voted Liberal, whoop-de-doo

  38. For the avid Tik Tok users amongst us…

    The agency’s acting director-general, Abigail Bradshaw, told a parliamentary committee on foreign interference on social media, that the data collection includes, device data, browsing activity within the TikTok browser, usernames, email addresses, contacts, phone numbers, photos, user IDs, SIM card numbers, device type, unique device IDs, installed apps, IP addresses, telecommunications provider details, and details on devices on the same network.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2023/jul/12/australia-news-live-cost-of-living-surplus-interest-rates-eu-trade-talks-robodebt-indigenous-voice-closing-the-gap-net-zero-big-four-banks#maincontent

  39. davo

    The ‘industry’ doing the ‘secret polling’ breathlessly reported by the Daily Dutton is, drumroll….

    Big Tobacco

  40. I am not up to date with the whole Alien UAP info, and I’ve always been of the view that if there were other intelligent life out there, we would have known by now.

    One thing I have noticed of late though , periodically we get someone popping up in the media stating the existence of UAPs.

    I’m starting to form a different view. The way the UAP comes in and out of the media seems deliberate. Like it is conditioning us for some revelations to come.

    Watch this space, I guess.

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