Morning Consult: Albanese approval 56, disapproval 31 (open thread)

Six months along, only minor signs of erosion in Anthony Albanese’s honeymoon poll ratings.

I have nothing much to offer in the way of new material for an open thread post, for reasons I hope you’ll understand. My standby on such occasions is the regularly updated tracking poll of Anthony Albanese’s personal ratings from US pollster Morning Consult, which currently has him at 56% approval and 31% disapproval. This leaves his approval about where it was mid-year, with his disapproval having climbed a few points.

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  2. Cronus,
    They’re out for a generation. At least.

    Whilst the ALP vote ain’t super high, they have common ground with the people encroaching their patch. It the greens.

    The teals however, are displacing the LNP. I don’t know how Dutton thinks that fighting over the scraps of QLD with the Nats will be a nation winning strategy.

    After Saturday in Victoria. It seems odd to not take an easy win and censure SfM and use that to move the whole conversation on.

    If the LNP are unhappy with the government Honeymoon, just wait till next year. The NACC will have started. It’s going to be a bloodbath for them.

  3. What a nasty hypocrite Jacinta Price is turning out to be. From the Guardian blog, first was her opening line of a doorstop responding to Noel Pearson:

    “ It doesn’t take long for nasty to rear its ugly head.”

    She then sought to claim the moral high ground, as an aboriginal woman putting up with abuse from aboriginal men, completely and utterly oblivious to what she’d said just yesterday about Linda Burnie.

    She is practicing the right wing MO: throw bombs, then claim victim hood status when exposed to return fire. I suspect this will prove to be a particularly effective tactic in her role of blowing up the Voice absolutely. Pearson is 100% right (and if you read his remarks carefully, unlike Jacinta he completely avoided any gratuitous ad hominems: his attack was devastating because it was factually true – she is a willing cat’s paw for the southern city based right wing think tanks).

  4. Yep, PB’s own person of “little pride” constantly putting forward their own “squalid little political argument” about the importance of the Voice 😡

  7. Compare the two –

    Linda Burney:

    “ Burney:

    I thank the member for Robertson for his question. He, like every person on this side of the house, understands the issue of equity.
    Life outcomes for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people can and should be better.
    The gaps in life expectancy and educational outcomes persist is unacceptable. Decades of failed government policies have not worked.
    A voice for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians is the best chance we have. And perhaps ever will have to address the injustices of the past and create change that will deliver a better future.
    A better future that will improve the lives of Indigenous Australians on the ground, in practical ways, like health, education and housing.
    This isn’t about more bureaucracy. This is about making sure voices in remote and regional communities are heard.
    The Uluru Statement from the Heart is the result of 12 regional dialogues after all, over 1200 attendees from right across this country.
    This isn’t about dividing people. It is about uniting Australians. Giving First Nations People a say in the matters that affect us. Not being told what is best by bureaucrats.
    Mr Speaker, I grew up in Whitton, down in the Riverina, a small country town. I was raised by Billy and Nina. They were my great aunt and uncle.
    We didn’t have much.
    And I didn’t know my dad until I was 27.
    Billy and Nina taught me the value of respect. And being kind to others doesn’t cost you anything.
    And that you learn more from listening than by talking.
    That someone with my history can stand in this place is the most unlikely thing.
    But not everyone is so lucky. Not everyone can have their voice heard. In that is why we need a Voice.
    An Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander voice is an idea whose time has come. The Australian people will decide this referendum, not politicians, and I have faith in the Australian people.
    We want to take Australia forward for everyone. We will work with anyone who wants to take this journey forward to a better future.”

    Jacinta Price –

    “ It doesn’t take long for nasty to rear its ugly head.
    I am no stranger to attacks from angry men who claim to speak on behalf of Aboriginal Australia.
    In the past I have been told by a supposed Wurundjeri elder that I deserve to die a slow and painful death following my National Press Club address on ending the violence in remote communities. Also following this address, I was called an ‘Oxygen Thief’ by a man who is often referred to as an Aboriginal leader in Alice Springs, he also put me on notice, whatever that means?
    Warlpiri men have publicly personally attacked me for standing against their calls on better leadership from them regarding the violence and abuse suffered by Aboriginal women and children. If they’re not personally attacking me, belittling me by calling me a silly little girl (despite being the mother of four sons) and attempting to intimidate me, then they’re claiming I have snubbed them as my colleague Pat Dodson the ‘Father of Reconciliation’ has suggested. I hardly think agreeing to catch up while passing each other briefly between divisions on the floor of the Senate is the same as formally arranging a time and place for a meeting.
    It’s not hard to see why as an Aboriginal woman I have reservations about enshrining an idea that lacks detail into our parliament that has the potential to empower bullies like those I have encountered over the years. Since yesterday’s announcement, my offices have been bombarded with calls in support of the Nationals position but also bombarded with threatening and abusive calls that the women in my office should not have to be subjected to.
    Research has shown that bullies only ever project onto others their own insecurities and failures, or in defense of a truth. So, it perplexes me that for some disturbing reason some ABC presenters’ foam at the mouth at the opportunity to pit Aboriginal people against each other and bullying is encouraged rather than called out.
    While the ‘Yes’ campaigners have suggested this referendum is all about bringing people together as a unifying exercise for the whole of Australia their actions speak otherwise. We didn’t need a crystal ball to know that if you do not agree with the voice to parliament, you will be called names, be accused of racism, bigotry and it will also be suggested that you are incapable of thinking for yourself. The ugly side of the Voice to Parliament is now on display for the country to witness. Beware the accusations and emotional blackmail, the weapons of choice for those attempting to enforce conformity.
    As Ghandi said ‘First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.’
    I don’t care for the absolute noise of bullies. I am here to contribute to practical and meaningful measures within my capacity as the Senator for the Northern Territory and I will continue to be the voice for the voiceless who expect nothing less of me.”

  9. Since we’re on the topic of Mr Musk, I just spotted his “bedside table tweet”.

    Elon Musk
    @elonmusk
    My bedside table

    7:48 PM · Nov 28, 2022
    ·Twitter for iPhone

    I suppose it could be satire. Never mind. Enough for one day.

  13. Late Risersays:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 4:21 pm
    Themunz, sorry this is all that shows up on the link.

    Reloaded the link here:

    Late Risersays:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 4:21 pm
    Themunz, sorry this is all that shows up on the link.

    Sorry, I am also having trouble posting link, but can be found by searching for “Electric Viking” on youtube. Second video “Mercedes say Tesla’s 500 mile semi defies the laws of physics”.

  15. So where the parties stand on the Voice:

    1. Labor is totally for a Voice to Parliament.

    2. The Liberals and the Greens simply do not have a policy on the Voice at all because both parties are riven with disagreement. Same-same.

    3. The Nationals used to support it, but now officially oppose it because they have an indigenous Senator who claims to know what is best for all indigenous people, even though there is no evidence she even represents her own community (rather than the largely non-indigenous Northern Territory community that voted her in.

    4. PHON does not support it because a red-headed white woman knows best (at least in how to appeal electorally to racists).

  16. Late Riser

    “Since we’re on the topic of Mr Musk, I just spotted his “bedside table tweet”.

    Elon Musk
    @elonmusk
    My bedside table”

    The fake marketing guy aspect of Musk’s character is all too clear in this photo. I can just imagine what fondness he developed for Washington’s crossing of the Delaware as a boy growing up in South Africa(?)


  18. south says:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 4:04 pm
    ….
    If the LNP are unhappy with the government Honeymoon, just wait till next year. The NACC will have started. It’s going to be a bloodbath for them.

    You are assuming the Greens and Liberals don’t combine to sink it. Until it is passed it is still a possibility. It could be a triple back flip yet.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/28/greens-threaten-to-support-liberal-amendment-in-move-that-could-derail-passage-of-key-integrity-bill

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/29/naccflip-greens-back-down-on-threat-to-block-national-anti-corruption-commission-bill

  19. Themunz @ #564 Tuesday, November 29th, 2022 – 4:08 pm

    Late Risersays:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 4:21 pm
    Themunz, sorry this is all that shows up on the link.

    Reloaded the link here:

    Late Risersays:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 4:21 pm
    Themunz, sorry this is all that shows up on the link.

    Sorry, I am also having trouble posting link, but can be found by searching for “Electric Viking” on youtube. Second video “Mercedes say Tesla’s 500 mile semi defies the laws of physics”.

    Thanks, I found it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAQuZBF15zA

    But I’m sceptical. Electric Viking (EV, I get it) may be right, but it’s hard to tell without knowing how the truck achieves the claimed performance. EV doesn’t go there. Most of his video is a rant against Mercedes, which might be justified and might be the point of the video, that doesn’t help me gauge the performance claim. The thing about batteries is that they weigh the same fully charged as they do flat. Doubling the amount of battery does not double the range because it also doubles the battery weight being carried. Each additional battery has to do more work for the same distance travelled, and makes the previous batteries do more work too. There’s a point in the design process where something different has to be done so you can go further. What did Tesla do to get the claimed performance? The only clue I could get from the video is that the truck is structurally lighter. Different metal? More plastic (carbon fibre)?

    That Mercedes plan to buy two of these trucks makes sense. They’ve come to the same question. They will have one to take apart, and one to test drive.

  21. Jacinta Price must think people have the memory of goldfishes.

    Unfortunately, between Price and Thorpe it becomes a hard sell that the Voice is something the Indigenous community as a whole wants, and if there not that there’s not anything.

    Price is a nasty piece of work but a spoiler, not someone constructive, is exactly what the right needs to scupper the referendum.

    I’ve never been particularly optimistic about this and we’re already seeing how it’s going to play with Dutton and Littleproud leading the Coalition.

  23. Glass jaw broken with a feather.

    What an embarrassing reply by Price. I had time for her arguments in the past but recent days have exposed serious failings. real leaders on a mission have shown her up as nothing more than a petty shouty thin skinned political opportunist. It is quite sad – It very briefly made me think of Pauline Hanson. I honestly hope she reflects and learns and grows from this – there should be more of her like in Coalition ranks.

  24. Arky @ #571 Tuesday, November 29th, 2022 – 5:47 pm

    Unfortunately, between Price and Thorpe it becomes a hard sell that the Voice is something the Indigenous community as a whole wants, and if there not that there’s not anything.

    Some want it, sure. But others would rather see something a bit more practical, and there are those who are just indifferent to the whole thing.

    This is timely …

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-29/what-will-the-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-achieve/101710114

    You could hardly call it a “ringing endorsement”.

    I wonder why it is that so many people insist Indigenous Australians must speak with one Voice, when we never do so ourselves? I reckon it has little to do with them, and much more to do with us and our patronizing attitudes.

  25. The first batch of Tesla Semi, 50 vehicles is already spoken for (Pepsi ordered long ago).

    With deliveries due to start next week interesting times.

  27. Re Late Riser @4:15.

    ”The Queensland Parliament just passed a motion supporting the Uluru Statement from the Heart, including a Voice to our national Parliament”

    Good on them.

    The miners and pastoralists, however, don’t want to be bothered by indigenous rights, any more than they want to be bothered by the environment, the climate or tax, when extracting profits from the land. Their rural-based political wing have fallen into line in opposing the Voice. Their city-based wing a.k.a the “Liberals” will soon. We can see the outlines of the coming disinformation campaign in some of the responses to the linked tweet from Ms Palszczuk.

  28. The Morrison scenario boils down to two simple truths.

    1. Many or most Coalition MPs publicly or privately acknowledge that Morrison acted improperly thereby undermining Australia’s democracy and trust in government procedure.

    2. These same MPs tomorrow will jointly, in front of the Australian public, fail to censure his actions thereby implicitly supporting his actions.

    This is cognitive dissonance on a grand scale.

  30. Boerwar

    “ With an effective Federal ICAC and an impartial AFP, I bet he won’t be the last Liberal party figure we see in court over coming years.
    ========================
    Impartial AFP? Uh huh.”

    I was referring to both the Federal ICAC and an impartial AFP as things we will have in future as long as Labor stays in office long enough to implement them.

  31. Socrates @ #582 Tuesday, November 29th, 2022 – 6:24 pm

    Boerwar

    “ With an effective Federal ICAC and an impartial AFP, I bet he won’t be the last Liberal party figure we see in court over coming years.
    ========================
    Impartial AFP? Uh huh.”

    I was referring to both the Federal ICAC and an impartial AFP as things we will have in future as long as Labor stays in office long enough to implement them.

    The NACC won’t be independent. The Govt is able to appoint a stooge of their choosing to run it.

  33. ‘Socrates says:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:24 pm

    Boerwar

    “ With an effective Federal ICAC and an impartial AFP, I bet he won’t be the last Liberal party figure we see in court over coming years.
    ========================
    Impartial AFP? Uh huh.”

    I was referring to both the Federal ICAC and an impartial AFP as things we will have in future as long as Labor stays in office long enough to implement them.’
    ==========================================
    I was just ruminating on the long list of Coalition peeps who should have done jail time but who were not even charged… of the unconscionable delays in numerous investigations…

  34. Rex Douglas says:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:31 pm
    Socrates @ #582 Tuesday, November 29th, 2022 – 6:24 pm

    Boerwar

    “ With an effective Federal ICAC and an impartial AFP, I bet he won’t be the last Liberal party figure we see in court over coming years.
    ========================
    Impartial AFP? Uh huh.”

    I was referring to both the Federal ICAC and an impartial AFP as things we will have in future as long as Labor stays in office long enough to implement them.
    The NACC won’t be independent. The Govt is able to appoint a stooge of their choosing to run it.
    中华人民共和国
    LOL Taylormade

  35. So, after a some stunts, some weeping and gnashing of teeth, some grandstandings and some dummy spits the Greens have, once again, learned the substantive value of life on the political margins.

    OTOH, a Labor Government once again delivers.

  36. ALP not going for the Coalition’s amendment may prove to be a mistake in the long run. They wont be in power forever, and we saw how the LNP are much more willing to just straight up appoint mates to run important Government bodies.

  38. Bonnie says:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:42 pm
    ALP not going for the Coalition’s amendment may prove to be a mistake in the long run. They wont be in power forever, and we saw how the LNP are much more willing to just straight up appoint mates to run important Government bodies.

    ____________________________________

    The Coalition amendment was bullshit – not that they couldn’t change it when they got into power.

    The Greens were stupid about how they dealt with it. They should have rejected it out of hand, while still arguing the case for their amendment. It would not have gotten up either, but at least the Greens would not have looked like political dumbos.

  40. Anthony Albanese and his cabinet are set to endorse a multi-pronged strategy to curb sky-high power prices, as pressure mounts on the government to urgently intervene in the market. 

    The ABC can reveal the government will likely cap wholesale gas prices at about $12 a gigajoule, demand a guaranteed domestic gas supply from producers, and enforce a mandatory code of conduct as part of a market intervention first flagged five weeks ago. 

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-29/government-gas-market-intervention-cap-prices-power/101712130

  42. TPOF @ #588 Tuesday, November 29th, 2022 – 6:47 pm

    Bonnie says:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:42 pm
    ALP not going for the Coalition’s amendment may prove to be a mistake in the long run. They wont be in power forever, and we saw how the LNP are much more willing to just straight up appoint mates to run important Government bodies.

    ____________________________________

    The Coalition amendment was bullshit – not that they couldn’t change it when they got into power.

    The Greens were stupid about how they dealt with it. They should have rejected it out of hand, while still arguing the case for their amendment. It would not have gotten up either, but at least the Greens would not have looked like political dumbos.

    Why is requiring a high (effectively bipartisan) threshold for a position for such import such a bad idea? The coalition can’t just change it unless they somehow get a Howard like majority in the house and senate, and requiring bipartisanship probably would have better protected the integrity of the commission long term. If the LNP were seen as holding up a reasonable candidate, they’d suffer at the ballot box.

  43. @P1: who said the voice has to be unified?

    Bit of a Strawman there. Hopefully the Voice can voice all views of Indigenous communities.

  44. “If the LNP were seen as holding up a reasonable candidate, they’d suffer at the ballot box.”

    Yeah, sure, that is definitely a top of mind vote changer.

  45. The Nationals are running the line about Price’s “lived experience” as a justification for acting on her advice. Just why is her “lived experience” more valuable than Pat Dodson’s, Noel Pearson’s, Linda Burney’s, or even Lidia Thorpe. They all have their personal experiences of being indigenous people in Australia. What is so special about Price’s, other than offering a fig leaf for racism?

    At least Dodson, Burney and Pearson have collected the lived experiences of others, and their contributions arising out of those lived experiences. Price just pursues the view that she and her coterie hold and the Nationals are very happy to hitch their wagons to those simplistic and narrow opinions.

  46. Arky @ #593 Tuesday, November 29th, 2022 – 6:52 pm

    @P1: who said the voice has to be unified?

    Bit of a Strawman there. Hopefully the Voice can voice all views of Indigenous communities.

    Ummm. You did …

    “… the Voice is something the Indigenous community as a whole wants …”

    No, they don’t. Some do. Some don’t. Some don’t care. Some don’t even know what it is.

  47. Arky says:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:52 pm
    @P1: who said the voice has to be unified?

    Bit of a Strawman there. Hopefully the Voice can voice all views of Indigenous communities.

    ________________________________

    Total straw woman.

  48. P1

    Ummm. You did …

    “… the Voice is something the Indigenous community as a whole wants …”

    No, they don’t. Some do. Some don’t. Some don’t care. Some don’t even know what it is.

    _________________________________________

    You have numbers?

  49. Bonnie

    Why is requiring a high (effectively bipartisan) threshold for a position for such import such a bad idea? The coalition can’t just change it unless they somehow get a Howard like majority in the house and senate, and requiring bipartisanship probably would have better protected the integrity of the commission long term. If the LNP were seen as holding up a reasonable candidate, they’d suffer at the ballot box.

    ___________________________________________

    We don’t do this for any other appointments under our system, including High Court judges and the Governor-General. The capacity to veto is an American import that was used effectively to damage Obama’s presidency by abuse of the Senate’s powers.

    This mob now in Opposition have no standards they won’t trash if there is a political benefit. They have done it time and time and time again. And nothing they have done since they lost the election has shown a change in attitude. Even putting up this amendment after coming to an agreement with the government shows that bad faith is fine by them.

  50. C@tmommasays:
    Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:48 pm
    The trolls have got their word and the word is ‘stooge’.

    How quaint. Bless their tiny, unimaginative little minds.
    ———————–
    Love to see one of them with a boot on his throat as he lay in Greville St gutter or surrounds.

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