Polls: Indigenous voice, leadership approval, skills shortages (open thread)

Strong support in principle for an Indigenous voice to parliament; a largely positive response to the Jobs Summit from those who noticed it; and no sign of the sheen coming off Anthony Albanese.

Time for a new open thread post, though I don’t have a whole lot to hang one off. There’s always US pollster Morning Consult’s tracking poll on approval of Anthony Albanese, which continues to record no significant change since June, with Albanese currently on 60% approval and 27% disapproval. This gives him the third best result of 22 international leaders being followed by the pollster, behind India’s Nahendra Modi and Mexico’s Andrés Manuel López Obrador.

There are also two new sets of supplemental results from last week’s Resolve Strategic poll in the Age/Herald:

• A series of questions on outcomes from the Jobs Summit published on Saturday had favourable results for multi-employer bargaining, more TAFE places and allowing older Australians to earn more before losing the aged pension, but only 34% in favour of the increased migration intake, with 33% opposed. Only 24% rated themselves “definitely aware” of the recent Jobs Summit, compared with 38% for “vaguely aware” and 38% for unaware. Thirty-six per cent agreed it had achieved its (non-political) objectives compared with 19% who disagreed and 46% who were either undecided or neutral.

• The Age/Herald had a further result yesterday showing a 64-36 break in favour of a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous voice, evidently based on a forced response. Clear majorities were recorded in all states, and while there is no reason to be dubious about this, the Tasmanian sample especially would obviously have been exceedingly small.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Shane Wright tells us that shadow treasurer Angus Taylor has signalled the Coalition is prepared to look at far-reaching tax reform while opening the door to shaking up the way the health, welfare and education systems are run. Oh, yeah.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/tax-reform-could-take-inflation-pressures-off-economy-taylor-20220926-p5bkyz.html

    Sorry Shane Wright but I thought you are not stupid to believe people like Angus Taylor.

  2. I just read that the hackers have released the personal data of the first 10,000 Optus customers:

    The personal records of 10,000 Optus customers have been released overnight as hackers ratchet up an extortion attempt, according to reports.

    In a post shared widely on social media, apparently authored by one of the hackers, the extortionist warns that 10,000 records will be released each day over four days unless Optus pays $US1 million ($1.55 million).

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-news-live-early-review-finds-federal-grants-funnelled-to-nobody-in-particular-debate-over-national-integrity-commission-continues-20220926-p5bl53.html

    So happy to be with Telstra. 🙂

  3. After Bwana Bandt stormed the Hawthorn ramparts on behalf of Voiceless Indigenous Peoples he will now excoriate publicly and loudly a certain Senator whose alleged behaviour is alleged to have sent at least one Indigenous person looking for health services.

    Bandt lost control of Thorpe and Steele-John during the election with both free lancing.

    The latter, at least, has stopped telling everyone that those concerned about China’s influence on Solomons is ‘racist’.

    Thorpe, the Greens Spokesperson for First Nations, has not, I believe, rejoined the public fray after telling Australia that the Voice is ‘…a complete waste of time.’

    Meanwhile Faruqi seems to have divined that Hanson was behaving in a racist manner and, without bothering to inform the Senate just how Hanson is supposed to have behaved in a racist manner, is demanding that the Senate censures Hanson.

    If the test for racism is now a general sense of being offended then the Senate may also wish to censure Faruqi for the offense she caused to people for sally against her late Madge – the sally that gave Hanson the hook upon which to hang HER feelings of being offended.

    Meanwhile, presumably, various calls for the rent freeze, for Labor to renege on the S3 election promise, for the Government to set wages, for the Government to set interest rates, for the closure of the uranium, gas, cattle, sheep, almond, rice and cotton industries stand.

  4. Victoria @ #45 Tuesday, September 27th, 2022 – 8:06 am

    All we have been able to do with respect to the Optus breach, is change our password and monitor bank accounts.

    Until banks (and others) change how they do two factor ID (currently done using verification codes sent to your mobile) we are all vulnerable to someone using our personal ID to steal our mobile number (by contacting OPTUS and masquerading as us). This is not just a problem for OPTUS. The banks have to change.

    Authenticator apps could be used instead.

    Android
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.authenticator2&hl=en_AU&gl=US
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.azure.authenticator&hl=en_AU&gl=US

    IOS
    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/google-authenticator/id388497605
    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-authenticator/id983156458

  5. BK @ #49 Tuesday, September 27th, 2022 – 8:14 am

    It’s all very well to be using passport, drivers licence, etc for ID verification, but once used for confirmation, the data should be properly discarded. It should be of no further use to whoever required it.

    BK,
    I read that by law telcos had been required to keep that data for 2 years in order to allow the AFP and other law agencies access to it if they needed it for crime investigation.

    I just think they should encrypt it and give judges the key to hand to federal law enforcement agencies when they justifiably need it.

  6. I assume that the Coalition would support an increase in the GST.

    My guess, FWIW, has been all along that their plan was to shovel money to the meritorious, transfer all education and health spending to the states, build up a humungous debt and then acceded to state and territory desperate pleas for an increase in the GST rate.

  7. BK

    “ Read this and get angry. VERY angry!
    In its report to the Australian Charity and Not-for-profits Commission, the Catholic Church Endowment Society — which oversees the Catholic Education Office — said it had received $57 million of funding from schools and would use it for future projects.”
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/sa-catholic-schools-defend-receiving-millions-in-jobkeeper/101467622

    You are right, this is a shocker. Maybe now they will start settling all those abuse cases against paedophile priests? Seems they have the money.

  8. The Russians are not happy with dear leader.

    Why would they be. Being compelled to go and fight a war that they believed would be done and dusted in a few weeks.

    Putin is persona no grata.

    Fun times.

  9. Ven

    The coming collapse in China’s construction industry (one third of the economy and roughly a third of global CO2 emissions) is excellent news for Pacific Island nations that are threatened by rising sea levels. All that concrete and cement and all that structural steel just pumps out the CO2 like nobody’s business.

    The UN’s Human Rights Committee corrupt sally at the former Australian Government’s impact on Torres Strait Islands is a pup in comparison. But that is not surprising. Some of the Committee members have horrendous human rights situations.

    It is bad news for Australia’s coal and gas industries and for Australia’s budgetary situation.

    Strangely enough, it will not at all change our chances of reaching 43/2030.


  10. Alposays:
    Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 7:22 am
    “Time for a new open thread post, though I don’t have a whole lot to hang one off. There’s always US pollster Morning Consult’s tracking poll on approval of Anthony Albanese, which continues to record no significant change since June, with Albanese currently on 60% approval”…

    … Oh, and wait to see the reaction to yesterday’s ABC program on Dutton: “Please, please like me… or else I will send you to Nauru”….

    Alpo
    Starting with Narendra Modi with +57% net rating, PM of India, right at the top of pack (after 8 years of governance) with Albanese at number 3 with +33% net rating. French President Macron and Japanese PM Kishida at -31% net rating.

    https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/#section-1

    BTW isn’t ‘Morning Consult’ a US pollster?

  11. Re: NASA’s DART live stream, Didymos is the blob in the centre; Dimorphos (the target) is the faint dot at around the 2 o’clock position.


  12. Grant_ExLibrissays:
    Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 7:28 am
    Meanwhile the City of Yarra in Melbourne has cancelled its next meeting as there was ‘nothing on the agenda’.

    Really?

    In my years in local governmemt no meeting was ever cancelled due to no items on the agenda.

    It IS the City of Yarra which has an ‘intetesting’ track record after all.

    Is ‘City of Yarra ‘ controlled by Greens or Liberals?

  13. The Aegean has been rumbling along with Turkey & Greece and fears of another Ukraine.
    Erdogan has warned Greece they will invade and have the capability to take it overnight.
    My holiday is doomed!

  14. Labour has a **17 point** lead over the Tories, Yougov poll for The Times finds

    It’s the biggest lead since Yougov started polling in 2001.

    Six in 10 voters think Kwarteng’s budget was unfair – the worst rating of any fiscal event since 2010.

  15. Mavis @ #68 Tuesday, September 27th, 2022 – 8:36 am

    Before her detractors rush to judgment, Thorpe should be given the opportunity to respond to the allegations against her.

    Mavis,
    The allegation was made by her former senior adviser. Plus, she has already responded multiple times to the accusations seeking to minimise the severity of their nature. I don’t think you’ll get any more than that from her, tbh.

  16. Yep.

    On twitter.
    Amazing how many tankies cling to the belief that they, and Mother Russia, are the real victims. Snowden took his stolen goods straight to Russia, Greenwald a mere useful idiot, Assange worked with Putin to sabotage US elections, and still they view them as heroes.

  17. As mentioned by Holdenhillbilly

    Britain Elects
    @BritainElects
    1h

    Westminster voting intention:

    LAB: 45% (+3)
    CON: 28% (-4)
    LDEM: 9% (-1)
    GRN: 7% (-)

    via @YouGov
    23 – 25 Sep
    Chgs. w/ 12 Sep

  18. Ray(UK),
    It looks like Brits are getting to the point now that we reached in May. They have given the Tories an excess of time in power to indulge their foibles and enough rope to hang themselves. Now they’ve had enough of it all.

  19. I watched Liz Truss give a few speeches.

    Wowee. Is that the best thing the tories can come up with. She is beyond bad. Not even suitable as a useful idiot.
    Sheesh.

  20. zoomster @ #76 Tuesday, September 27th, 2022 – 8:44 am

    Thorpe, of course, has had plenty of time to give her side of the story, and this was her response –

    ‘We enter Parliament not to make friends but to get results for our people.’

    She did not seem to be denying any of the claims made against her.

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/you-are-in-my-meeting-greens-senator-accused-of-verbal-abuse-of-indigenous-elder-20210628-p584tp.html

    Which is an interesting construct considering she abused her people.

  21. Donald Trump is not stupid:

    From Maggie Haberman’s “Three Conversations With Donald Trump”

    Can you believe these are my customers?” Donald Trump once asked while surveying the crowd in the Taj Mahal casino’s poker room. “Look at those losers,” he said to his consultant Tom O’Neil, of people spending money on the floor of the Trump Plaza casino. Visiting the Iowa State Fair as a presidential candidate in 2015, he was astounded that locals fell in line to support him because of a few free rides in his branded helicopter. In the White House, he was sometimes stunned at his own backers’ fervor, telling aides, “They’re fucking crazy.” Yet they loved him and wanted to own a piece of him, and that was what mattered most.


  22. Boerwarsays:
    Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 8:23 am
    Ven

    The coming collapse in China’s construction industry (one third of the economy and roughly a third of global CO2 emissions) is excellent news for Pacific Island nations that are threatened by rising sea levels. All that concrete and cement and all that structural steel just pumps out the CO2 like nobody’s business.

    The UN’s Human Rights Committee corrupt sally at the former Australian Government’s impact on Torres Strait Islands is a pup in comparison. But that is not surprising. Some of the Committee members have horrendous human rights situations.

    Do called Human rights organisations like Amnesty international and UN’s Human Rights Committee only criticise Democratic countries for violations of Human rights but not against Authoritarian and dictatorship countries because they know that they may disappear from the face of the earth if they do that.
    Or there is another possibility where these organisations are filled with people of far-left ideology called Urban Naxals.

  23. There is a view of Hackers that they are either:

    1. Young pimply teenagers with Stratospheric IQ’s
    2. Fat nerds eating Pizza and Coke late at night
    3. Sophisticated foreign actors/criminals.

    Optus is trying to imply that they were hacked by the third type. The reality is that they connected two systems via an API and one of those systems was insecure (thus allowing anyone with a modicum of scripting experience and access to Postman to download the data).
    This is not hacking, it is pure and simple negligence by Optus.
    The person trying to blackmail Optus is either an opportunistic fool (who’d risk a criminal records and years in jail for little more than a deposit for a 2 bedroom unit in Sydney?) or simply tying to ensure the conversation doesn’t hide Optus’s guilt.

  24. Peter Walker
    @peterwalker99

    The Labour conference has voted overwhelmingly for the party to replace first past the post voting with a form of proportional representation. Huge cheers in the hall as it is passed

    PS This does not bind the party leadership

    **As a long time supporter of PR I am pleased although, seeing events in Sweden and Italy, I do worry about the potential of the British far-right who are safely ignored under FPTP


  25. Holdenhillbillysays:
    Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 8:36 am
    Labour has a **17 point** lead over the Tories, Yougov poll for The Times finds

    It’s the biggest lead since Yougov started polling in 2001.

    Six in 10 voters think Kwarteng’s budget was unfair – the worst rating of any fiscal event since 2010.

    “the worst rating of any fiscal event since 2010”
    Why aren’t they measuring against all times?


  26. Mavissays:
    Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 8:36 am
    Before her detractors rush to judgment, Thorpe should be given the opportunity to respond to the allegations against her.

    I expected Nath and Rex out of the blocks first. 🙂

  27. The Washington Post on the Truss/Kwarteng Budget:

    If there’s a broader lesson to be gleaned from Britain’s economic crisis, it’s this: Beware politicians glibly promising that they — and they alone — know better than the experts.

    Prime Minister Liz Truss and her allies promised that when she came into office, she would fix the economy by ditching “the stale economic orthodoxy” and “so-called abacus economics.” This sort of rhetoric has become common among populist politicians — including in the United States — who portray themselves as freethinkers by bashing the ominous-sounding “establishment” or “elites.”

    Since Truss unveiled a mini-budget Friday, Britain’s currency has been in freefall, with the pound hitting an all-time low against the dollar Monday. Markets clearly don’t believe the Conservative government’s stated commitments to get inflation under control, and they doubt Britain’s ability to make good on its debts.

    That’s partly because economic conditions outside the government’s control are genuinely challenging. But there have also been a lot of unforced policy errors.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/26/britain-economic-crisis-early-lesson/

  28. “C@tmomma says:
    Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 8:47 am
    Tbh, the Tories probably thought Liz Truss would excite fond memories of Margaret Thatcher.”…

    Yeah, as if nothing has happened since 2008 (GFC and the collapse of Neoliberalism).

    I guess that Truss looked at the inflation rates, somebody told her: “Remember the late 1970s”, and she has put the two things together into a: It’s time for Thatcher-II Neo-Neoliberalism…. brainfart.

  29. C@tmommasays:
    Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 8:47 am
    Tbh, the Tories probably thought Liz Truss would excite fond memories of Margaret Thatcher.
    ————————————————————

    They were right. Except for the fond bit.

  30. Happy ICAC day everyone.
    This is a great day, the ALP are going to put a reform in, that the public will love. It will decimate the coalition and protect our country from corrupting influences. It’s gonna be good.

    Re Lidia Thorpe,
    Her problem is one of EGO. She likes to be the embodiment of the struggle. Her PR is now becoming more of a talking point than the impotent Adam Bandts protestations about anything. I suspect trouble in the greens party room. Maybe we’re going to see some awesome fun NSW greens style fighting in the federal sphere.

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