Polls: JWS Research, SEC Newgate and more (open thread)

Generally positive perceptions of the federal government combine with mounting concerns about the economy in two new attitudinal polls.

Three slabs of minor polling news in lieu of what I’d consider a proper federal opinion poll:

• The quarterly JWS Research True Issues survey of issue salience finds concerns about the cost of living have shot up since March, with 38% choosing it as one of the three issues the federal government should be most focused on, up from 16%. This pushes hospitals, health care and ageing to second place, down from 37% to 34%. Twenty per cent think the national economy headed in the right direction, down eight points since March, compared with 33% for wrong direction, up three, maintaining a downward trend going back to early last year. The new federal government scores 54% on an index score for its general performance, meaning it scored very slightly above par overall on a measure where respondents were asked to rank it on a five-point scale, which compares with 47% for the previous government in March. The survey was conducted August 12 to 15 from a sample of 1000.

• SEC Newgate’s monthly Mood of the Nation attitudinal polling, conducted from a sample of 1800, finds 47% consider the federal government is doing a good to excellent job, up eight points since June. Fifty-seven per cent expressed support for an indigenous voice to parliament, down one on May, with opposition at 19%, up three. There was a ten-point increase in positivity towards “Australia transitioning its electricity generation to renewables” since June, now at 70%, with 12% negatively disposed, down seven.

• Roy Morgan’s weekly update video informs us that its polling conducted from August 22 to 28 had Labor’s lead at 52-48, in from 53-47 a week earlier and a good deal narrower than recent results from Newspoll and Resolve Strategic. Primary votes are Labor 36% (down one-and-a-half), Coalition 39.5% (up one), Greens 10.5% (down one) and One Nation 4% (up one-and-a-half).

The Age/Herald has also trickled out the further results from last week’s Resolve Strategic poll:

• The government’s legislated target of a 43% reduction in carbon emissions was supported by 62%, including 27% who strongly supported it, and opposed by 19%, including 10% who were strongly opposed.

• The 500 New South Wales respondents from the poll included 56% who reckoned John Barilaro’s trade commissioner appointment a case of “jobs for the boys”, compared with only 14% for the alternative option that he was a worthy candidate in a fair process, and 45% who felt Dominic Perrottet had handled the matter badly compared with 27% who thought he had handled it well.

• The 500 Victorian respondents included 42% who credited state Labor with greater integrity and honesty compared with 21% for the Coalition, and 53% who expected Labor to win the election compared with 18% for the Coalition.

• Only 7% expect COVID-19 numbers to increase in the coming months, down from 20% in March; 33% expect roughly the same numbers “perhaps for months/years”, down six from March; and 42% expect numbers to decrease, up from 28%, which includes 25% who thought they would later come back again, up from 18%.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

1,672 comments on “Polls: JWS Research, SEC Newgate and more (open thread)”

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  1. nath @ #1281 Saturday, September 3rd, 2022 – 7:59 pm

    There are 473,600 people unemployed. 3.4%. Doesn’t get much better than that. I have no idea about the DSP and how many are capable of working or not.

    You’ve got to understand that that figure isn’t static. My son was one of them until last week. He was employed until May when he left his job after being attacked by one of his clients. He was definitely not unemployable but just waited for the right job to come along before he jumped back into work. So I don’t think we should expect the unemployment rate to go much below 3% (the traditional definition of full employment), for that reason as well as the ones you have identified. Also because it catches a lot of people who are just waiting out the clock to go on the aged pension.

    As far as the DSP recipients are concerned, I think that they will have to be very carefully managed. Some can work not at all any more, some only 1 or 2 days a week, some more, and only at certain sorts of jobs. But if they can then it’s great.

    Basically, if Labor can’t figure out a way to accommodate everyone in Australia now into the job market in some way, shape or form, or not, if you’re a musician or an artist whose ‘work’ is their art, then they won’t be doing their job. It’s absolutely doable for sophisticated thinkers.

  2. Cat

    “ I saw a graph on the front page of the weekend AFR a couple of weeks ago. It showed commodity sales and revenue into the government going gangbusters since the Ukraine-Russia war. I think Dr Chalmers will surprise us on the upside in October.”

    I hope so. I think that will be important for Labor to be able to defend its position. Like I said they are on a hiding to nothing following in the footsteps of their shamefully irresponsible predecessors.

  3. Catprog

    ‘If they are not looking for work they don’t count in the official figures.’

    Well, they are – because non participants in the workforce show up in the participation figures.

    atm, all the different statistics align to show that there are genuine job shortages and genuinely low unemployment – some commentators have said that long term unemployment has been massively reduced, but of course that sort of story doesn’t interest the media…

    Further, but on the same topic – it is perfectly possible to be simultaneously employed and receiving Centrelink payments (been there myself). So having 900,000 receiving Centrelink benefits doesn’t equate to that number being unemployed.

    Indeed, Centrelink will keep you on the books for months even if you notify them that you are fully employed.

    And the figures always lag reality – the latest ones I can find, for example, are from over a year ago, not uncommon with government statistics.

    All of that means that (i) Centrelink benefits are not a direct indicator of unemployment and (ii) the known figures don’t necessarily reflect present reality.


  4. Holdenhillbillysays:
    Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:33 pm
    YouGov @YouGov

    Net trust in Liz Truss on key issues facing the country

    Cost of living -47
    Economy -45
    Housing -44
    NHS -42
    Immigration -42
    Environment / climate change -40
    Brexit -37
    Education -35
    Law and order -32
    Ukraine war -29
    Defence -29

    In Liz we Truss.

  5. Oakeshott Country:

    Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    [‘It is the Panffers State Cup team in Townsville.
    Nathan’s dad doesn’t want anyone suspended/injured in the march to back to backd’]

    I’m sure you’re okay, dear?

  6. Zoomster
    I knew people on DSP were kept on the books for two years but didn’t know about centerlink keeping people on their books.

  7. mb

    You can go ten weeks without claiming any money from them before they’ll take you off the books, if your reported income means you’re not getting any payment from them at all.

    If you’re getting any payment from them at all (even a couple of dollars), you can probably stay on indefinitely, if you keep submitting the fortnightly claim.

  8. Rex Douglas says:
    Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 6:38 pm
    Sir Henry Parkes @ #1364 Saturday, September 3rd, 2022 – 6:19 pm

    Scott says:
    Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 4:43 pm
    The lib/nats outdated political attacks on the unions connection with Labor will not work in the current political era
    ___________________________________________________________
    I think you’re right. Although I believe the diminution of trade union strength over the past decades has been a great setback for workers in Australia, and is the principal reason for falling real wages in recent years, at least it has weakened Tory talking points about “thuggish unions” and “unions running the country”.
    I can remember when Liberals used to love promoting industrial relations issues in election campaigns. These days, industrial relations is seen as more of a vote-winner for Labor.
    I’m hoping the government’s promised changes to the Fair Work Commission act, allowing industrial bargaining with multiple employers and across industries, will lead to increased union membership and improved wages.

    Labor should have stopped taking fossil fuel union money/directives back when climate change was the greatest moral challenge of our times.
    __________________________________________________________
    Labor should not have taken donations from the fossil fuels industry. But that was not the point I was making, which was that the decline of trade unions has led to Australia’s fall in real wages.
    I also think we should not see too much in coal unions’ links to Labor. The ALP has not taken as strong a stand on climate action as it should have, but that’s been more to do with Labor being spooked by scare campaigns about climate action leading to job losses and higher power prices.
    We should not compare this with the Coalition parties, who are clearly embedded with the fossil fuels industry and who have done as much as they can to obstruct clean energy policies.
    We only have to see what the Albanese government has done since assuming office to see the difference.

  9. people on the forum dont seem to realize that the tories and even 2gb and the liberal right dont care abbout wiinning elections as they have been power mostly all the time but being a true conservative most of 2gbs anger at perottit in nsw is that he is close to matt kean and did not persue his social agender apart from union train fight basickly stuck with Gladys pro business approach staying away from culture wars

  10. i think albanese seems honist seems totell it how iit is in stead of morrison used verbiage to confuse people but said litle of substence seemed to adopted the old nsw labor focus group method of winning elections can care starmer win uk elections

  11. it seems perrotitt and dutton are banking on an out dated anti union campaign to winn theelections the rail union leader seems unreasonable wanting a higher wage then police and aambulence workers but will struggle with teachrs dutton failed with the abcc campaign because of Albanese smart move to cick out Setca which helplped to distence labor from cfmeu

  12. @socrates this morning:

    “ Of the three SSN contenders, the French Barracuda is the smallest, cheapest and least capable.”

    How so? LEU is superior to HEU. Less heat generation. Reactor can be run at minimal power with the propulsion running silently on batteries. Perfect for what will still be – always will be – the principal mission of our submarines: jamming any hostiles against strategic pinch points in the litoral. Not lacking in either top speed or range either.

    The French have better sonar arrays in their subs.

    The weapons load is less, but this can be corrected – if necessary – by the addition of a 12 missile vertical launch system without any real problems.

    I agree with the rest of your post, but frankly the Barracuda is simply the best on all counts that matter to Australia’s needs. If we are going to go down the SSN path, it really should be plan A. What a fuck up Morrison was. Dutton was worse of course.

  13. Cowboys up 20 nil just before half time. Penriff look whipped. Broncos out of the Comp now.

    Penrith are resting 11 of their starters. This result isn’t an indictment of either the Cowboys or Panthers heading into the finals. Broncos season is a failure despite the improvement on the table. It can’t be ruled out ending Kevin Walters future as coach- to go fourth on the table in round 19 and to bow out of finals contention is a good old fashion choke. The fashion the way they lost to the Eels and the Storm in the prior rounds has to be the biggest concern.

  14. Andrew Earlwood

    My comments were not criticising the technology of the Barracuda SSN. It is simply that the Barracuda is the smallest of the 3 options, with the least engine power and stores.

    So it carries the least weapons (22 vs 36 or 38) and has the smallest and least powerful bow sonar. They could all be fitted with VLS for an extra cost but that puts up tonnage and reduces speed and maneuverability. Endurance is 70 days for Barracuda vs 90+ days for Astute or Virginia.

    The towed arrays on all three are very good. The Australian Attack class was supposed to carry the larger Thales sonar in the Astutes and that could presumably be fitted in a Barracuda SSN for Australia.

    LEU is easier to handle and safer than HEU but an LEU reactor produces less power for a given size. The Barracuda reactor has less power than the S9G in a Virginia. It is still perfectly Ok, because it is plenty to propel the smaller sub hull (5300 tonnes vs 7400 UK vs 7800 US).

    US S9G reactor = 210 MW
    UK PWR2 reactor = 130-145 MW
    French K15 reactor = unpublished but <150MW

    They all have auxiliary diesel engines and batteries that enable quiet waiting. I have not seen any public information on which is stealthiest.

    That all being said, it is not a criticism that an individual Barracuda has less firepower than an individual Astute or Virginia. The later are 50% larger and more expensive (double for Virginias) and need 50% to 100% larger crews. For the same cost we could field 12 Barracuda SSNs instead of 8 Virginias, and the 12 Barracudas would be more flexible and more survivable.

    See for USN subs reactor details
    https://lynceans.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Marine-Nuclear-Power-1939-2018_Part-2A_USA_submarines.pdf

    UK and French sub reactor details.
    https://secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.183/gkz.aeb.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Marine-Nuclear-Power-1939-2018_Part-4_Europe-Canada.pdf

    I would still be very happy if Australia switched from 12 Attack to 12 Barracuda SSNs. As a fleet that would be superior to 8 of the others. But you can’t say each boat is individually superior to the bigger US and UK ones. That being said, all three are easily superior to regional (Chinese and Russian) rival subs.

  15. Soc,

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I didn’t think the Barracuda reactor drove the prop.

    I thought it was driven by an electric motor and the reactor was used to keep the batteries charged.

  16. I may be being very premature and missing something but I don’t see how the modern LNP are in any way electable unless there is some significant crisis they can exploit and even then I’m not confident ppl would necessarily trust them.

    Otherwise they can reform and try to become more like a party of Turnbull but that seems unlikely to happen now they have lost all those seats of that disposition. It seems more likely that the elected Teals are a sign of things to come and will replace this useless party with time.

    I reckon the LNP will stick around as a rump of conservatives for a little while but will never return to govt in their current form again. The teal seats will not return to the Libs, the Labor party will be seen as the only relatively honest major party of government kept in check by the teals, independents and Greens. We may well end up with Labor being the centre/centre-right option and the Greens as the left wing alternative and an actual liberal party or loose association of independents in the middle. The LNP has very few people left that would lead to confidence in their ability to govern well.

  17. “”I can’t imagine that being this relentlessly negative plays at all well with the average punter this early into a new government’s term. It just makes you look like a carping whinger.”

    It worked for Tony Abbott, with the help of the media. Peter Dutton is punting on it working again, which includes an assumption that the mainstream media will eventually get behind him.”

    This worked in 2010 because the Gillard government barely scraped backed in on the back of the 2 independents (so could appear not fully legitimate) after the whole deposal of Rudd shenanigans which disgusted the public (because of the faceless men of the ALP) On Top Off Rudd pathetically abandoning the CPRS after saying the whole time up until the abandonment that this was the Moral Challenge of the Century… So yeah no comparison can be made with an Incoming duly elected government backed by the public’s good will…

  18. Back in 2010 Abbott also had the advantage of having more older climate ignorant/denying people alive and climate catastrophes only happening every 5 years or so (Victorian bushfires e.g.) Now those older voters are mostly dead and the remaining are dying off and climate disasters are happening relentlessly year after year after year… Climate Denialism JUST DOESN’T wash any more.

  19. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    Breaking promises isn’t easy. Keeping the wrong ones is just as painful, says Richard Denniss about the stage three tax cuts.
    https://www.smh.com.au/money/tax/breaking-promises-isn-t-easy-keeping-the-wrong-ones-is-just-as-painful-20220901-p5bequ.html
    Anthony Galloway tells us that The Greens have called on the Reserve Bank of Australia to put interest rate rises on hold until after next month’s budget, accusing the central bank of inducing people into taking out unaffordable home loans.
    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/greens-call-on-reserve-bank-to-pause-interest-rates-until-after-budget-20220902-p5beu9.html
    It is the book that has landed Scott Morrison in the hottest water of his political career – revealing how he appointed himself to multiple ministries in his government unbeknown to the public or his colleagues. That disclosure has attracted the most public interest, but the book Plagued also reveals previously secret deliberations of Australia’s national security committee of cabinet, writes Paul Karp and Sarah Martin.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/04/plagued-book-revealing-morrisons-ministries-discloses-national-security-discussions
    Michael Pascoe reckons the Governor-General may have some questions to answer about this charity.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2022/09/02/governor-generals-charity/
    “What is with politicians and tanks and other armoured vehicles?”, asks Noel Turnbull who is sick of seeing defence waste.
    https://johnmenadue.com/what-is-it-with-pollies-tanks-and-defence-waste/
    The deaths of four children in a house fire in Werribee have been linked to the crisis that has engulfed Victoria’s triple-zero call agency, the true scale of which has been revealed in a damning report highlighting 33 deaths, writes Aisha Dow and Annika Smethurst.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/child-fire-deaths-linked-to-victoria-s-triple-zero-call-crisis-20220903-p5bf5i.html
    “Governance in Victoria today has become even more centralised than during the peak of the Kennett regime more than 20 years ago, when staff jokingly referred to ministers as “warm props” to the dominant premier”, opines Jon Faine.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/think-jeff-kennett-centralised-power-dan-andrews-takes-the-cake-20220901-p5beot.html
    Patrick Lawrence laments the collapse of foreign coverage in mainstream media.
    https://johnmenadue.com/when-correspondents-came-home/
    Private schools have begun to lock in fee rises of between 4 and 10 per cent next year, blaming cuts to Commonwealth funding for the hikes. My heart bleeds for the high end schools.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/cost-of-private-education-to-rise-as-schools-end-covid-fee-freeze-20220903-p5bf31.html
    Australia’s first and for decades only international airline, Qantas, is looking rather tattered of late. Its reliability is becoming something of the past; its standing diminished in an age of diminished international carriers, writes Binoy Kampmark.
    https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/letting-standards-slip-qantas-reels-from-repeated-failures,16728
    Russia has scrapped a deadline to resume flows via a major gas supply route to Germany, deepening Europe’s difficulties in securing winter fuel, after saying it had found faults in the Nord Stream 1 pipeline during maintenance.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/european-fuel-fears-after-russia-scraps-gas-pipeline-reopening-20220903-p5bf3s.html
    Marriages in China have plunged to their lowest levels on record in a daunting sign of the deepening population crisis facing the world’s second-largest economy, explains Tom Rees.
    https://www.theage.com.au/business/the-economy/china-s-marriage-slump-rings-alarm-bells-for-its-battered-economy-20220902-p5bes8.html

    Cartoon Corner

    Matt Golding

    Matt Davidson

    Glen Le Lievre

    Alan Moir

    Simon Letch

    Reg Lynch

    From the US








  20. Insiders Sunday, 4 Sep

    David Speers joins Karen Middleton, Fran Kelly and Sarah Martin to discuss the ideas and outcomes that emerge from the Jobs and Skills Summit, migration, stage 3 tax cuts, the COVID isolation period, plus pacific relations.

    Guest : Brendan O’connor – Minister For Skills And Training

  21. Hmm, bolshie Greens trying to intervene in the decisions of the Reserve Bank!?! Hmm. I guess it shows us what sort of a government they would run. Interventionist. They know best. How very John Howard as Treasurer. 😐

  22. Thanks BK. The revelations from Plaqued just keep coming as to how poor the Morrison government was.

    Is Simon Benson still seeing Bridget McKenzie? Was he tempted to ask her or discuss with her some of these things, esp the multi ministries and NSC leaks?

  23. In a few weeks, Nasa controllers will deliberately crash their $330m Dart robot spacecraft into an asteroid. The half-tonne probe will be travelling at more than four miles a second when it strikes its target, Dimorphos, and will be destroyed.

    The aim of this kamikaze science mission is straightforward: space engineers want to learn how to deflect asteroids in case one is ever discovered on a collision course with Earth. Observations of Dart’s impact on Dimorphos’s orbit will provide crucial data about how well spacecraft can protect Earth from asteroid armageddon, they say.

    “We know asteroids have hit us in the past,” said Professor Alan Fitzsimmons, an astronomer at Queen’s University Belfast. “These impacts are a natural process and they are going to happen in the future. We would like to stop the worst of them.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/sep/03/nasa-to-crash-spacecraft-into-asteroid-dart-dimorphos-collision-course

  24. AFL Footy Finals.
    A great weekend of results.
    All of the Melbourne clubs defeated.
    Freo coming from way, way, way back to knock off Free Kick Footscray.

    Go the Catters.

  25. Thanks BK. As Confessions said the Plagued revelations are damning of Morrison:

    “ In a later meeting of the NSC on 20 April 2020, “Morrison took a decision to up the ante with Beijing”, telling the meeting “the time had come to be more strident in its language about China’s conduct”

    So doesn’t this quote suggest Morrison deliberately inflamed the China dispute that cost us over $20 billion in trade sanctions??


  26. Barney in Cherating says:
    Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 1:31 am

    Soc,

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I didn’t think the Barracuda reactor drove the prop.

    I thought it was driven by an electric motor and the reactor was used to keep the batteries charged.

    In these types of ships propellers are driven by electric motors and the energy source, be it diesel or Nuclear drive the generators that supply the electricity for propulsion and if they need charging, the battery charging.

    A nuclear sub will not have many batteries as the nuclear reactor can run all the time.

    Diesel generators and batteries are not for stealth in a nuclear sub . It is the age old problem with nuclear reactors, once stated they need power no matter what.

    All naval nuclear reactors currently in use are operated with diesel generators as a backup power system. These engines are able to provide emergency electrical power for reactor decay heat removal, as well as enough electric power to supply an emergency propulsion mechanism.

  27. Why isn’t the CPG and MSM in general taking up this charity for execs that the GG secured funding for? It should be front page Daily Tele stuff along with other more in-depth questioning; estimates mislead? what will this $18m achieve?

    Are they worried about defamation? Is it the bubble?

  28. So it looks like it was the American, John Kunkel, driving Morrison’s more presidential designs:

    “[Morrison’s chief of staff John] Kunkel observed that the PM had delivered no significant defence speeches during his term, so he pushed for Morrison to make the DSU announcement, rather than Defence minister Linda Reynolds. This would give him portfolio ownership of Defence,” the book says.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/04/plagued-book-revealing-morrisons-ministries-discloses-national-security-discussions

  29. Socrates ”So doesn’t this quote suggest Morrison deliberately inflamed the China dispute that cost us over $20 billion in trade sanctions??”

    Hugh White seems to think so:

    ”The most likely explanation is that he did it to please Washington. The Trump administration is plainly determined to talk up China’s responsibility for the pandemic, both to deflect domestic criticism of its own woeful and at times farcical mismanagement of the crisis, and to score points against Beijing in their escalating geopolitical contest for influence in Asia and globally.”

    https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2020/05/10/australia-must-get-better-at-picking-its-fights-with-china/

  30. Frednk

    Thanks for explaining that regarding the nuclear subs. My understanding is also that all three are the same in this respect.

    I missed that question from Barney late last night.

    Further to the revelations in the Plagued book, I think all of Morrison’s defense decisions and stated reasoning now has to be suspect.

    I still think Australia needs to build an SSN, but should re-include the Barracuda SSN on the list of those being considered. The reasons it was discarded were false. Australia should pick whichever we can start building the fastest. That might well be the Barracuda, and will almost certainly not be the US Virginia.

  31. This would give him portfolio ownership of Defence,” the book says.

    It’s really all about control for him.

    I wonder what else the inquiry will unearth…

  32. The news India’s economy is now larger than the UK’s will bring a tear to the eye of the Rule Brittania set but what really leapt out was the graph. The UK GDP has flatlined for the past 14 years, a dead parrot.

    UK Slips Behind India to Become World’s Sixth Biggest Economy

    Loss of status comes as ruling Tory party elects new premier
    Cost of living shock batters UK, while Indian economy surges

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-02/uk-slips-behind-india-to-become-world-s-sixth-biggest-economy

  33. Slightly different perspectives from the right and left press in the UK on the Saturday front pages 🙂

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1663945/new-uk-prime-minister-liz-truss-rishi-sunak-election-footing-conservative-party-update

    The SNAP! election being talked about is for October .. 2023 🙂

    Farridge sez this:

    ‘NIGEL Farage has tipped the Conservative Party to face an electoral wipeout at the next General Election on the scale of that suffered against Tony Blair’s Labour Party in 1997’

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1663793/Nigel-Farage-latest-Tories-wipeout-next-general-election-latest-vn

    Whereas Labour’s Wes Streeting thinks the Tories are trying to lose .. presumably because of how much crap is coming down the pike in the short term

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/03/tories-planning-to-lose-next-general-election-labours-wes-streeting-says

  34. Steve777 at 7:55 am

    Socrates ”So doesn’t this quote suggest Morrison deliberately inflamed the China dispute that cost us over $20 billion in trade sanctions??”

    Hugh White seems to think so:

    ”The most likely explanation is that he did it to please Washington. The Trump administration is plainly determined to talk up China’s responsibility for the pandemic,………

    That it was part of it stood out like the proverbials at the time. His big outburst came within about a day of his meeting Trump.

  35. The Morrison LNP government was simply arrogant, random, secretive, unattached and dishonest.
    Morrison has had a history of of all of the above in a number of roles yet was allowed to gain the parliamentary leadership.
    It is hard to imagine a substantial reinvention of the liberal party without a radical makeover and an eradication of the the current incumbents to enable the liberal party to be trusted with government anytime in the future.
    There hasn’t been a day since the election without previously unknown and unannounced Morrison LNP shenanigans being exposed.
    Just how incestuous had the MSM and the Morrison become?
    Contrition, repentance, renewal from the MSM?
    Bullocks!

  36. John Hewson offered up this insight in the Saturday Paper. This was 30 years ago and in that time the Murdoch media has only gotten worse, even more emboldened. It’s way past time for a comprehensive review of our media.

    My own experience with the Murdoch media was most instructive. When I became leader of the Liberal Party and the federal opposition, I approached all the major editors at the time for a discussion. It was simply to introduce myself and my agenda after what had been a difficult time for the Coalition through the 1980s, with the disunity of the John Howard versus Andrew Peacock years and after three election losses. The editor at The Australian told me, in no uncertain terms, that I needed to understand they had their agendas, so if I advanced ideas consistent with those agendas, I may – it was emphasised, just may – expect positive coverage. But if I advocated against those agendas then I could be guaranteed that I would be attacked accordingly. I was encouraged to accept that this was just the way it was.

    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2022/09/03/buzzwords-bullshit-and-mockery

  37. STV News @stvnews

    Senior UK Government figures are considering introducing legislation which would require more than half of the Scottish electorate to vote for independence, rather than just a majority, according to reports
    ……..

    The Tories taking a leaf from Putin’s playbook.

    It’s amusing how desperate the London establishment is to keep Scotland which is, supposedly, heavily subsidised by the long suffering but benevolent English taxpayer!

  38. #weatheronPB
    Animated wind clears the air.
    Clean light slowly pushes searching fat shadows.
    Birds streak by, their business.

  39. Many thanks BK, wonderful as usual.
    Comment in the Age article on school fees is on point, the money spent on fees would be very handy in retirement.

    “ My kids fees went up around 6% year on year during their 7 years at a private school regardless of CPI. While I don’t begrudge their educational experience, now that I’m retiring, that $400k + ( I don’t have an exact figure cos I’m too scared to add it up) would be mighty handy right now.”

    One parent said that the fees they paid amounted to driving a small BMW off a cliff each year.

  40. Rakali @ #1496 Saturday, September 3rd, 2022 – 11:42 pm

    STV News @stvnews

    Senior UK Government figures are considering introducing legislation which would require more than half of the Scottish electorate to vote for independence, rather than just a majority, according to reports
    ……..

    The Tories taking a leaf from Putin’s playbook.

    It’s amusing how desperate the London establishment is to keep Scotland which is, supposedly, heavily subsidised by the long suffering but benevolent English taxpayer!

    That’s one view Rakali .. then again look how much bitching there was about the Brexit referendum, it being such a drastic move – taking us out of the EU – which passed very narrowly on a less than stellar turnout with the winning side being nowhere near 50% of the electorate

    It’s not unheard of for “constitutional” type questions around the world

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