This week should see the fortnightly federal voting intention poll from Roy Morgan, the regular fortnightly Essential Research poll which is scheduled to feature neither voting intention numbers nor leadership ratings, and possibly the more-or-less monthly Resolve Strategic poll from the Age/Herald. Until then:
• Tom McIlroy of the Financial Review reports the Centre Alliance will push for an inquiry into the government’s voter identification bill when it comes before the Senate, to which it will presumably progress swiftly after coming before the House of Representatives today. Three further electoral bills come before the House on Tuesday: to reduce the thresholds beyond which those who spend money on their own election campaigning are required to lodge annual disclosures; to provide for measures deemed desirable under emergency conditions such as pandemics, including greater flexibility with postal and pre-poll voting; and to require security assessments and such like for the computer systems and software used to conduct the Senate count. Two notable bits of detail include bringing forward the deadline for receipt of postal vote applications from the Wednesday before the election to the Tuesday, and requiring the Australian Electoral Commission to publish the Senate vote data files within seven days of the return of the writs, having presumably been allowed to play it by ear in the past.
• A preselection vote on Saturday to determine the successor to Victorian Liberal Senator Scott Ryan, both in respect to the vacancy arising from his imminent retirement and the third position on the Coalition ticket at the election, was won by Greg Mirabella, Wangaratta farmer and husband of Sophie Mirabella. James Campbell of the Herald Sun reports Mirabella won the final round by 165 votes to 141 over Simon Frost, staffer to Josh Frydenberg and former state party director. Incumbent Sarah Henderson comfortably won the ballot for the top position, with the second reserved for Bridget Mackenzie of the Nationals. Other unsuccessful candidates were Emanuele Cicchiello, former Knox mayor and deputy principal at Lighthouse Christian College, and Ranjana Srivastava, an oncologist who also contested the preselection for Casey.
• A dispute within the New South Wales Liberal Party affecting preselections for Warringah, Hughes, Gilmore, Eden-Monaro, Dobell and Parramatta reached a new pitch at a meeting of its state executive on Friday night, which resolved to close nominations on December 3 with plebiscites likely to follow in February. However, James Massola of the Sydney Morning Herald reports the issue could be settled next week by a deal between Scott Morrison and Dominic Perrottet, potentially through the federal executive choosing candidates with plebiscites. Broadly speaking, the dispute pits centre right powerbroker Alex Hawke against the combined forces of the moderates and the hard right, with the former wanting candidates to be promptly installed by the state council and the latter wanting party plebiscites at the cost of delaying the process until February. One aspect of this is that Scott Morrison, who is close to Hawke, is backing state MPs (specifically Holsworthy MP Melanie Gibbons run in Hughes and Parramatta MP Geoff Lee’s for the federal seat of the same name) for preselection in federal seats while Dominic Perrottet, from the hard right, would sooner avoid the resulting state by-elections.
• Dominic Perrottet’s concerns apparently do not extend to the done deal of Bega MP Andrew Constance contesting preselection for Gilmore. However, Constance’s field of competition has now expanded to include Jemma Tribe, a charity operator and former Shoalhaven councillor, and Stephen Hayes, a former RAAF officer and staffer to Christopher Pyne. They join Shoalhaven Heads lawyer Paul Ell, who by all accounts has strong support in local branches, while Constance is favoured by Alex Hawke and the centre right.
• Sharon Bird, who has held the Illawarra seat of Cunningham for Labor since 2004, has announced she will retire at the election. With the seat seemingly the preserve of the Right faction, candidates to succeed her reportedly include Misha Zelinsky, Fulbright scholar and assistant national secretary of the Right faction Australian Workers Union, who aborted a planned challenge to Bird’s preselection before the 2016 election; Alison Byrnes, an adviser to Bird; and Tania Brown, Wollongong councillor and an administrator at the University of Wollongong.
• Labor’s candidate for north coast New South Wales seat of Page, which was held by Labor through the Rudd-Gillard period but now has a Nationals margin of 9.4%, is Patrick Deegan, who works for a domestic violence support service and also ran in 2019.
If you green, you voting One Nation.
Splitting the votes means more anti-green initiatives or weak source.
After today’s QT shambles will the new Speaker spend the night undergoing counselling? Or will he congratulated by Scotty for such an excellent beginning?
Kakuru says:
Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 6:00 pm
I don’t have a huge amount of time for Cheryl Kernot. But I’m enjoying the way she riles up knuckle-dragging misogynists like ‘Nostradamus’.
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I don’t know about that but your comments always make me chuckle.
The kids born at the time of the Republic Referendum left school a few years ago and some are graduating from Uni/Tafe. Direct Electionists, the Monarchists thank you.
The comments following Uhlmann’s shit stir are worth reading too.
I remember being in bed on our verandah sick with chicken pox when Kennedy was elected President, my mother told me and she was pleased he won. She died about a month later. When he died I was over at the shed milking a couple of cows and one of my sisters came over and told me. I was in a sort of disbelief that such a thing could happen. When the twin towers came down I was up watching an episode of NYPD Blue when an add came on and as usual I switched channels for a moment. I saw one tower burning and wondered just how careless you had to be to fly into such a large building, but then I saw the second hit and realised it was no accident.
Steve777 at 7:10 pm
The Reichspud is doing his bit for the planet and recycling. My how things have changed…………
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Uhllmans piece is not a shit stir, it is the vomit of a shit head.
Yeah, right Toolman.
GG
“Stunts are all the Greens have.”
Right you are. The Greens are colour, motion, and lots of noise… but nothing actually happens.
From Uhlmann’s article:
It’s a point that has been made plenty of times. SfM can’t go to WA at this stage until February next year. While Albo doesn’t need to go west because McGowan is more than able to have Scotty’s measure.
ABC Senate
witchhuntenquiry suspended: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/nov/23/senate-inquiry-into-abc-suspended-after-labor-and-greens-motion-gets-cross-bench-supporthttps://www.pollbludger.net/2021/11/22/laying-down-the-law/comment-page-19/#comment-3756459
Neither Direct-Electionists or Monarchists were/are under any obligation to help Indirect-Electionists. Just because a position is in the middle, does not mean it is popular or has any right to win.
LNP senator Gerard Rennick was on ABC’s afternoon briefing earlier, and he told host Patricia Karvelas the government was providing him with constitutional lawyers this afternoon about what he sees as constitutional issues with vaccine mandates being issued by the states.
He argues it could go against the constitution.
The meeting was at 5pm, and he has indicated he will say more about what his position is on voting on government legislation tomorrow.
I could give some free advice to the Ratbag Rennick.
Read S51 of the constitution- does it say vaccines? Or health?
My BSB and a/c number available on request.
Cut Snake, yes that too.
Confessions, what’s to stop Morrison from coming to WA?
Kakuru,
If you added pooey nappies they would be a 2yo child.
Fulvio:
Isn’t travel banned until the state reaches 90% double vaxxed?
Kakuru says:
Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 7:27 pm
GG
“Stunts are all the Greens have.”
Right you are. The Greens are colour, motion, and lots of noise… but nothing actually happens.
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Same with Labor really. One decent election night since 1993. It’s a sad story.
Generally yes, but my understanding is that there are wide exceptions for politicians and Government officials.
nath says:
Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 7:37 pm
Kakuru says:
Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 7:27 pm
GG
“Stunts are all the Greens have.”
Right you are. The Greens are colour, motion, and lots of noise… but nothing actually happens.
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Same with Labor really. One decent election night since 1993. It’s a sad story.
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The difference of course is that Labor (unlike the Greens) has a history of Leaders becoming anti-party.
I suspect Morrison won’t want to visit the “hermit kingdom” anytime soon, Covid rules or not.
He can deny and play with words in relation to his government’s roles in the Palmer High Court challenge but Labor will exploit the link at every opportunity.
McGowan is getting a very sympathetic run over the threats from the loonies to him and his family.
I can’t see and feel any softening of Labor support here.
Realistically, it won’t reach the heights of the State election and the dearth of Liberal State members to organise the troops for local events will add to the complexity of campaigning.
Turnbull, I think, came once in 2016 and spent most of his time at a fundraiser and asleep. Couldn’t get out of town fast enough. Morrison might do the same.
Steve777 says:
Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 7:16 pm
The kids born at the time of the Republic Referendum left school a few years ago and some are graduating from Uni/Tafe. Direct Electionists, the Monarchists thank you.
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I was a direct electionist too! I just couldn’t stomach something so lame and conservative advocated by amongst others Turnbully!
sprocket_ says:
Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 7:32 pm
I don’t think he’s actually read what S51 says or what it actually MEANS.
The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to: Taxation: but so as not to discriminate between States or parts of States.”
Perhaps he needs reading glasses?
His actions and the little hilters are not for peace.
Fulvio:
You also have to wonder what kind of reception Morrison would receive in the west.
Fess, I think Ross has summed it up a few posts above.
I can’t claim to have met JFK and I don’t mean to name drop but I, along with a couple of other matelots, did do nine holes with the then King of Tonga (Tāufaʻāhau Tupou IV) in ’83, with him providing the drinks & small eats via a specially designed buggy. We deemed it prudent to let him win as the trip was designed to show the flag & gather intelligence in the southwest Pacific.
Nostradoomus writes:
“You tried to take on Dutton in Dickson – the next Prime Minister”…
I do hope that Heerführer Peter von Kartoffelkopf does unleash a putsch against the Liar from the Shire before the federal election…. it would massively add to the already plentiful fun…. 🙂
If you have 8 minutes to spare, Albo’s eulogy for the retiring Speaker will uplift…
https://twitter.com/albomp/status/1462657686932127746?s=21
“That was about the time that the Greens joined the Liberals and Nationals to block the CPRS.”
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I find it so amusing how you lot seem to think that attacking the Greens over the CPRS is somehow working for you. It’s hilarious in it’s absurdity.
The CPRS is just yet another example of Labor trying to team up with the Coalition to protect the big polluters. It was Labor who was actually working with the Libs and Nats, not the Greens.
The CPRS would have left us in a worse postion today than we are already under the Morrison Gov – that’s how truly useless it would have been.
And as we know, soon after the CPRS was consigned to the dust bin of history, the Greens were able to get their ETS implemented instead, which actually worked and would have left us in a far better position than we are now.
Lot of excitement in the comments tonight. Nice to see the optimism comrades!
nath @ Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 7:37 pm
Obviously people are avoiding your car keys in the bowl 😉
I think you missed an “f” there, instead of the “m”, Alpo.
Rennick and fellow clowns: Don’t they think If the federal government could have overridden the states on the pandemic, they would have done so already?
Either they are stupid (and that is probably the more likely) or they deliberately undermining the PM for a spill next week.
”The CPRS is just yet another example of Labor trying to team up with the Coalition to protect the big polluters. It was Labor who was actually working with the Libs and Nats, not the Greens.”
And here I was thinking that my comment might change some minds…
At the end of the day, the only thing going for the Libs is………………..something like, “No matter how bad we are, Labor would be worse!” Or, as somebody has already mentioned, it is down to the “Devil you know……………..” kind of election campaign…..The worry is that the Oz electorate might just buy it…..
Lars,
Fraser, Hewson and Turnbull are all known for their dyed in the wool support for the Libs post politics.
Lars von Tired says:
“One decent election night since 1993. It’s a sad story.”… I can also cut the cake in many convenient ways:
a) 7 decent election nights since 1983…..
b) 2 vs 3 decent election nights since 2007….
c) … and wait for the coming 1 vs 0 decent election nights for the ALP since 2022…..
True that GG. Fraser is also known for being dead.
Steve777 @ Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 7:59 pm
Not in this place!
A quote from Galbraith who was mentioned here recently “Faced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.”
Tricot:
” the “Devil you know……………..” ”
Yep, the Devil you know…. should be sent back to Hell!
lars,
Has anyone told him?
You made a general assertion. I made a general response.
I for one welcome our Tuberosum Overlord from the planet Solanum.
“And as we know, soon after the CPRS was consigned to the dust bin of history, the Greens were able to get their ETS implemented instead, which actually worked and would have left us in a far better position than we are now.”
Would have, could have, it was also consigned to the dustbin of history. Of course the CPRS wan’t perfect. It was a compromise, the best chance of putting together something that would survive a change of Government. It would have evolved. It would have regressed during periods of Coalition Government, but most likely would have survived.
Anyway, I could go on but we’ve been over it all many times. It is very depressing to note that basically nothing has been accomplished in climate action in Australia in the 12 years since the CPRS was knocked back.
FS,
Yeah, that’s all we need. A William the Tubersom.
We don’t need another Doomsday book!
Nice farewell for the Speaker from Albanese.
Noticed early in the corner of the screen the hands of Morrison furiously texting.
No respect.
Firefox, re: The Senate vote that saved the ABC…
Yep, United We Win…. Divided They Win….
… To be remembered in the Senate as soon as Albo becomes our next PM in 2022…
Low Velocity Troll
Fraser, Hewson, Turnbull?
And Menzies, with Holt as his treasurer, increased Company and personal tax rates – and increased the pension
So you can add their names to Fraser, Hewson and Turnbull
Who does that leave?
He was dispatching a curry recipe to a grateful constituent.
Be kind.
Does he use potatoes in his curries?