Two fairly meaty items of attitudinal polling on COVID-19 today, starting with the fortnightly Essential Research poll, which also included its monthly leadership ratings. Scott Morrison’s ratings were hardly changed, with approval steady at 50% and disapproval up one to 41%, while Anthony Albanese’s were slightly improved, with approval up three to 37% and disapproval down two to 36%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister nonetheless widened slightly, from 45-26 to 47-26. Offered a choice between the proposition that the government deserved to be re-elected and that it was “time to give someone else a go”, respondents favoured the latter over the former by 41% over 36%, which sits well with the tenor of recent voting intention polling.
On COVID-19 management, the federal government’s good rating was down two to 39% and its bad rating was up one to 36%. Of the state governments with almost meaningful sample sizes, the good rating of the New South Wales government was down two to 40%, that of the Victorian government tumbled 12 points to 44%, and the Queensland government was up a point to 67%. Of those with entirely inadequate sample sizes, the Western Australian government’s good rating was down nine to 78% and South Australia’s was up eight to 76%.
A series of questions on COVID-19 strategy produced the rather striking finding that 61% favoured the low-ball option of “less than 100 deaths per year” when asked how many would be “acceptable to ‘live with’ in Australia as lockdown restrictions are removed”. Furthermore, current lockdown restrictions remain strongly supported, with 56% in New South Wales and 57% in Victoria considering their states’ settings to be “about right”. However, the balance is tipping towards them being thought too strong, at 28% and 35% respectively, compared with too weak, at 16% and 8% respectively.
Another question found only 12% favoured Australia living with COVID-19 “even if there are hospitalisations and deaths”, compared with 44% apeice who favoured a near-zero policy and living with a few cases “even if there are hospitalisations and deaths”. There were notable differences between the lockdown states and the others: 38% in New South Wales and 37% in Victoria favoured a near-zero strategy, compared with 50% in Queensland, 51% in South Australia and 59% in Western Australia. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1100.
Also out today through the News Corp papers is a large-sample survey on COVID-19 conducted by YouGov, results from which can be viewed in The Australian here. This featured a number of questions on how things should be “when everyone has the opportunity to be fully vaccinated”, which 41% thought should mean an end to lockdowns, although a not inconsiderable 37% felt otherwise. Respondents from Western Australia were most pro-lockdown, those from New South Wales and Victoria least so. Younger respondents and parents of children in school were more likely to be pro-lockdown; those who did not wish to be vaccinated, accounting for 13% of the total sample, were most opposed.
The poll similarly found that 66% would eventually favour French-style vaccine passports for a range of public activities; 63% state borders being kept open only for the vaccinated; and 68% likewise with respect to overseas travel. Only 23% were opposed to the notion that employers should be able to demand their staff be vaccinated, compared with 69% who supported it for “frontline or public-facing jobs”, inclusive of 45% who thought it should be allowed across the board. Clear majorities were in favour of compulsory vaccinations for aged-care workers, nurses, school staff, public transport workers, take-away restaurant and food delivery workers, public servants and hospitality workers, and opinion was about evenly divided for construction workers and tradies.
Respondents were also given a choice between uncompromising anti-lockdown (“lockdowns should be ended immediately”) and pro-lockdown (“lockdowns must be part of Australia’s future until COVID-19 is completely eliminated”) positions and the much looser middle-ground option that “vaccination is the pathway to ending lockdowns”, which when you put it like that gets respective results of 14%, 22% and 64%. The survey was conducted by YouGov from August 20 to 25 from a sample of 3114.
p.s. I am sure it is all part of Bilbo’s ineffable plan 🙂
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Being a Labor party member doesn’t mean I have to get behind the Leader regardless.
mundo @ #43 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:35 am
Not being Scumo for starters.
‘Stuart says:
Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 7:49 am
I can understand Anthony Albanese’s relatively low approval rating, but 68% disapproval would appear to be quite savage. Putting the two figures together, there appears to be no room for ambivalence. A substantial majority of those polled really appear to dislike him. It would be interesting to know what it is about AA that engenders this visceral response.
This sort of response to the its leader does not bode well for Labor given that the Liberals and the MSM are yet to wind up their “kill Bill” strategy in the lead up to the next election.’
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They killed Bill for his entire term as LOTO. They included the Liberals, the Nationals, the Greens and Murdoch. It was constant. They are TRYING the same on Albanese.
The beauty here is PPM is not predictive in the least.
What is useful is 54/46. Enjoy.
The Liberals know it and there is some serious thinking going on about when might be the right time to ditch Morrison. I assume the November chatter by Morrison is to keep his internal backstabbing mates from making an early move.
The Christmas target talk is also to ward of Dutton BEFORE Christmas.
You can feel the fear and loathing in the Liberal camp.
Meanwhile, Joyce’s internal enemies know that two of Joyce’s votes are retiring. That would be enough to tip the Nationals to Littleproud.
Meanwhile, the Coalition is ankle deep in the blood of its bushfire, Afghanistan and Covid victims. What is a bit more blood, here or there?
zoomster @ #36 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:29 am
One good thing stemming from him – to how many negatives
Just another drip, drip of failure.
I suspect the PPM is almost meaningless in recent years.
I would prefer pollsters to as the question about PPM more in the form of;
‘Would you prefer the PM of a party you didnt vote for serve out their whole term, or be knifed in the back because of polling’
Reckon quite a few of the Victorian number are day 13 tests in Shep.
Hopefully the warmer weather will help push down the number of cases.
In the meantime bring the Moderna I say.
laughtong @ #NaN Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:44 am
Exactly. It almost sounds like an apologia for keeping Clive Palmer in the game. However, the election of Cathy McGowan, an Independent, was at the expense of one of the major party candidates getting elected.
zoomster @ #NaN Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:43 am
I’m well aware of that, zoomster. You’ve made it clear multiple times.
Morrison is an imbecile and a very spiteful one at that. Everything he has done (or not done) has resulted in grief and misery: failing to order vaccines, refusing to construct purpose built quarantine facilities, failing to protect those in nursing homes and constantly demanding the states allow a free-for-all movement of people.
At the same time he was the first to receive protection from the Pfizer vaccine and is apparently just waiting for the day when he is spirited up to heaven in the great rapture, leaving us poor fools to wallow in the misery of unrestrained tribulations.
Thanks for responses on border closures and health. I’ve been getting clunky page loading as often happens with a new thread till it spills to page 2.
shellbell, has your day of the injection been and gone? The worry, the worry.
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Jaegersays:
Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 6:39 am
Letter reveals what Scott Morrison told John Frewen when he gave him vaccine role
Exclusive: Prime minister hails ‘direct command and control structure’ in document obtained under freedom of information
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/01/letter-reveals-what-scott-morrison-told-john-frewen-when-he-gave-him-vaccine-role
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So he hails Military dictatorship to a democracy.
That preference seems to be even worse than Singapore democracy reportedly preferred by some LNP types a decade ago.
Does that mindset have anything to do with his comment in parliament where he said protests in Australia are tolerated where as protestors in some countries are shot at or something to that effect?
https://amp-abc-net-au.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/13251804?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16304504625213&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2021-03-16%2Fbullets-women-march-4-justice-scott-morrison%2F13251804
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Not far from here, such marches, even now are being met with bullets, but not here in this country,” Mr Morrison told Parliament.
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Beginning of this year
https://www.smh.com.au/national/prime-minister-rejects-very-dangerous-calls-to-rush-covid-19-vaccine-20210101-p56r72.html?fbclid=IwAR2YFNq5S7Yk_Ld7b0g0Ag6N39Hkd9mjig348thyMiB41iNEA1iwdO1PhbA
The Prime Minister and Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly said the situation in Australia was different from overseas because there were far fewer cases of coronavirus here, giving the Therapeutic Goods Administration time to assess each vaccine thoroughly for safety and effectiveness.
Mr Morrison said there would be no short cuts.
“On the vaccine, you don’t rush to failure. That’s very dangerous for Australians,” he said. “For the vaccine to be successful, Australians have to have confidence in it.”
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Morrison should resign
The Essential Report:
45% of NSW and 42% of Qld say it is time to give someone else a go.
citizen @ #60 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:52 am
Resonated with that so much. Goats. We’re the poor fool goats.
ItzaDream
Yes – yesterday – my hope for symptoms mild enough to not be noticed but moderate enough to espouse sympathy is 50% fulfilled.
UK Cartoons. A place where the cartoonists haven’t seen the quiet rise in Covid cases and deaths that are going on there.
Ben Jennings on America’s new relationship with #Afghanistan #Taliban #AfghanistanCrisis #KabulHasFallen
Andy Davey on #USAabandonedAfghanistan #Taliban #Afghanistan #AfghanistanCrisis #afghanistanwomen #ISIS_K #evacuation
Dave Brown’s @Independent cartoon… #Biden #Afghanistan #Evacuation #LastSoldier #Taliban #AfghanistanCrisis
Kal on #RepublicanParty #Afghanistan #AfghanistanCrisis #evacuation
Graeme Bandeira on #USAabandonedAfghanistan #Taliban #Afghanistan #AfghanistanCrisis #afghanistanwomen #ISIS_K #evacuation
Christian Adams on #JoeBiden #Taliban #Afghanistan #AfghanistanCrisis
PAUL THOMAS on Michael Gove’s dad-dancing #MichaelGove
Morten Morland on #JoeBiden #Taliban #Afghanistan #AfghanistanCrisis
Shellbell @ #66 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:56 am
Go well. Freedoms await you.
Itza,
Berejiklian better be careful about not meeting with the Mayors of Western Sydney.
1. The federal Liberals were hoping to win seats there to counter losses elsewhere at the election.
2. David Borger, former NSW Labor Minister, is the CEO of Wesroc, and still an influential player.
I’m sure, without Gladys there, much can and will be said. She may think it’s smart to send Shelley Hancock to be her eyes and ears but Hancock won’t be there before and after the meeting. 🙂
I’m finally getting my 2nd AZ jab today. My GP made me wait the full 12 weeks. 🙁
C@t
After concentrating so many of her comments on Western Sydney, Gladys isn’t showing much courage.
pukka @ #62 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:54 am
A pity it’s not 55 and 52
Not spruiking Palmer – of course not.
I like the irony.
Scott @ #61 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:53 am
Apparently he’s going to just after lunch today.
C@tmomma @ #70 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:59 am
That’s a good thing. You’ll get more efficacy out of it because of that.
Boerwar
They killed Bill for his entire term as LOTO. They included the Liberals, the Nationals, the Greens and Murdoch. It was constant. They are TRYING the same on Albanese.
The beauty here is PPM is not predictive in the least.
What is useful is 54/46. Enjoy.
The Liberals know it and there is some serious thinking going on about when might be the right time to ditch Morrison. I assume the November chatter by Morrison is to keep his internal backstabbing mates from making an early move.
The Christmas target talk is also to ward of Dutton BEFORE Christmas.
You can feel the fear and loathing in the Liberal camp.
Meanwhile, Joyce’s internal enemies know that two of Joyce’s votes are retiring. That would be enough to tip the Nationals to Littleproud.
Meanwhile, the Coalition is ankle deep in the blood of its bushfire, Afghanistan and Covid victims. What is a bit more blood, here or there?
You obviously know nothing about what is going on within the liberal party, nearly everything you just stated is stuff you have made up and want to be true. No leader on either side of politics has been is as safer position since Howard.
I would enjoy the 54/46 while it lasts, once NSW and Victoria open up and the other states have to deal with Delta those numbers will change.
C@tmomma @ #69 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:58 am
It fits her immaturity. Big girls make big decisions and face the consequences. Gladys’s shield of denials wont withstand the realities. As the Mayor said, ignore them “at your own peril”. Strong stuff. As in a threat!
This is what it is all about.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/isolation-gave-mark-mcgowan-the-gift-of-time-he-would-be-wise-not-to-squander-it-20210831-p58ne4.html
ItzaDream @ #50 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:44 am
Polling indicates the opposite currently.
Anyway, there’s still time.
lizzie @ #NaN Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 9:00 am
I have an image in my mind of one of those Elizabethan women who never wanted to step in a puddle unless a man laid his coat over it for her to traverse across.
I wonder though why Gladys is so afraid of bulldust in the West of our state, she surrounds herself in it every day. 🙂
Or if it’s the untermenschen of the Western Suburbs she doesn’t want to commune with, that makes her sound like one of the toffs in Sydney who only ever cross the Harbour Bridge to go to their offices in the city but no further.
Steelydan @ #74 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 9:03 am
‘What is useful is 54/46. Enjoy.’
I enjoyed it right up to close of polls on election night 2019.
Polling indicates the opposite currently.
Someone’s using the PPM as the oxygen of their survival hopes for Scummo.
Canada Cartoons – there’s an election going on there:
C@tmomma @ #70 Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 8:59 am
Sep 1, a fitting start to Spring. I used to love the idea of a sprig of wattle (Sir William Dean, bless you), until Howard made it faux and nauseatingly insincere.
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Another day and the prospect of Australia “opening up” upon hitting the government’s magic vaccination numbers recedes a little further. The much-promoted national cabinet “plan” now seems to exist only in Scott Morrison’s rhetoric as state and territory leaders back away from it, says Michael Pascoe.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2021/08/31/vaccination-code-yellow-pascoe/
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Gladys literally forced Andrews to let go the goal of zero COVID-21 cases. Now he wants Victorians to live with cases as low as possible.
Daniel Andrews has abandoned the state’s COVID-zero strategy, as he embraces a soft lockdown plan to “modestly” and “cautiously” ease restrictions provided COVID-19 infections can be kept below a low case threshold.
https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/victoria-abandons-covid-zero-but-national-plan-in-doubt-20210831-p58ngs
At the moment, Albo is a step ahead of the Drover’s Dog – who would beat the embattled Scott paws down..
I see that Dan Andrews is seeing the writing on the wall, and moving away from the zero Covid ideal. This is sensible, and what all the states will need to do eventually, particularly now that the two biggest states are no longer pursuing zero. Of course Victoria, with much lower case numbers, is better-placed than NSW to transition to the new normal, but in truth all the states will end up here sooner or later. And then we come back to the big question we all must face: how much Covid – and in particular how many hospitalisations and deaths – can we accept?
Soc
Yes. Although only noticing it with big uploads and occasionally on large downloads.
Seems fine this morning.
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Michelle Grattan points out that Morrison is yet to forge a personal relationship with Joe Biden as ANZUS turns seventy.
https://theconversation.com/view-from-the-hill-morrison-yet-to-forge-personal-relationship-with-biden-as-anzus-turns-70-167054
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Could it be because some LNP types may be giving little more weight to Trump rants that he would be installed as President by August end (I know we are now in September)? 🙂
Victoria records 120 new covid cases
64 are linked
VicGovDH (@VicGovDH)
Reported yesterday: 120 new local cases and no cases acquired overseas.
– 33,455 vaccines doses were administered
– 56,501 test results were received
Hugoaugogo @ #NaN Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 9:14 am
And that’s one our so-called ‘leaders’ have sidestepped. However, it’s the question on everyone’s lips.
C@tmomma says:
Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 9:08 am
Someone’s using the PPM as the oxygen of their survival hopes for Scummo.
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Even those in the liberal Party do not take the ppm in having any relevance
Ask Malcolm Turnbull
Holdenhillbillysays: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 9:21 am
Victoria records 120 new covid cases
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It is the first time the state’s daily cases have been in the triple digits since 110 cases were detected on September 2 last year at the tail of the Victoria’s devastating second wave.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-01/victoria-covid-cases-lockdown-melbourne-restrictions/100423686
I do agrees with posters that a 68 percent disapproval rating would be devastating for an Opposition Leader. Having, however, bothered to click the link to the actual poll and consume the information therein, unlike the rest of you, I was reassured to discover it is in fact 37 approval 36 percent disapproval and 27 percent undecided for Anthony Albanese as OL.
Frydenberg suddenly discovering the “suffering” of his electorate is making me feel quite queasy.
Pat Dodson condemns ‘rogue’ Christian groups spreading anti-vax propaganda in remote WA…
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/01/pat-dodson-condemns-rogue-christian-groups-spreading-anti-vax-propaganda-in-remote-wa
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it’s time that the tax payer stopped subsidising Christian ( & other groups), tax deductibility should be withdrawn from them all.. Pyramid ‘selling of religion” should stop, it’s just a scam.. a dangerous & costly one
Corio:
Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 11:35 pm
Mavis @ 11:21 pm
Mavis wrote:
Lord Gowrie sought a guarantee that the independents (Arthur Coles and Alexander Wilson) would support a Curtain government, but these are rare and Australia was at war at the time. Gowrie signed off on the ’41 election & the rest is history.
Corio responded:
[‘There was no federal election in 1941. Coles and Wilson decided to support a Labor government in between elections.’]
You’re correct & thanks for the correction, though my point stands that Steve777’s comment about Hurley, based it seems on who appointed him (Morrison) and his religious beliefs were over the top. As a former senior army officer (CDF) he more than most would know that as GG, he must be impartial and seen to be impartial, a lesson that a former NSW Chief Justice failed to follow.
[‘In October 1941, Arthur Coles and Alexander Wilson, the two independent MPs who had been keeping the Coalition in office since 1940 (first under Menzies, then under Fadden), joined forces with Labor in defeating Fadden’s budget and bringing the government down.
Governor-General Lord Gowrie was reluctant to call an election for a Parliament barely a year old, especially given the international situation. He summoned Coles and Wilson and made them promise that if he named Curtin prime minister, they would support him for the remainder of the Parliament to end the instability in government. The independents agreed, and Curtin was sworn in as prime minister on 7 October, aged 56.’]
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Stuartsays:
Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 7:49 am
I can understand Anthony Albanese’s relatively low approval rating, but 68% disapproval would appear to be quite savage. Putting the two figures together, there appears to be no room for ambivalence. A substantial majority of those polled really appear to dislike him. It would be interesting to know what it is about AA that engenders this visceral response.
This sort of response to the its leader does not bode well for Labor given that the Liberals and the MSM are yet to wind up their “kill Bill” strategy in the lead up to the next election.
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Some like Expat follower are already testing the waters. He/she already went very hard against Albanese in the last couple of days after News poll 54-46 in favour of ALP..
Sceptic @ #NaN Wednesday, September 1st, 2021 – 9:36 am
Yet today the story was, obviously Evangelical Christian MPs, which Scott Morrison has been seeding the federal parliament with, are calling for Christian Chaplains to be placed, at the taxpayers’ expense, into every school in the country! 😡