The Australian reports the latest Newspoll records Labor’s two-party preferred lead out from 53-47 to 54-46, with the Coalition taking a three-point tumble on the primary vote to 36%, Labor up a point to 40%, the Greens down one to 10% and One Nation steady on 3%. Despite this, Scott Morrison is up two on approval to 49% and down two on disapproval to 47%, and has slightly widened his lead as preferred prime minister from 49-36 to 50-34. Anthony Albanese is up two on approval to 40% and up one on disapproval to 47%. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1528.
GG, what the hell are you talking about?
“Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but Kelly and Palmer really are two heads of the same pustulating carbuncle.”
You know, I could answer that with a Youtube video.. but I’ll restrain myself 🙂
I thought the Queensland government had a good approach with Clive’s nonsense last year. Immediately and publicly call out his lies and demand the LNP repudiate them too.
C@t
“Lock in a November election.”
Bring
It
On
🙂
Quote of the week 🙂
I am all for an election later this year. This government cannot be turfed out fast enough.
One does have to wonder just what private modelling (either economic or pandemic-related) Scomo has access to if he thinks an election in the midst of lockdown is a better option than waiting until March or May. It must be bloody grim.
BB,
Telling people they are crazy and they should do something is futile.
My guess is that at the end of the day Clive will be irrelevant this time. His impact is on Lib seats. So, imagine people voting for Labor because of certainty.
OK…
Asha
It must be grim and I can’t see it remaining a secret.
November 3rd is my call. Still think it will happen in November. As C@tmomma says, politicking has moved to campaigning – serious money is starting to be spent.
We even have an old-timer come back on to provide their opinion 😉
It can’t be that date because it falls on a Wednesday. Must be a Saturday.
Vaccine rollout:
NSW
37.1% fully vaccinated; 68.2% first dose
State target: 70%
National
35.0% fully vaccinated; 58.7% first dose
National target: 70%
Of the estimated population aged 16 and over
– SMH
Apologies Wat Tyler. It was the 6th!
Hard to remember the difference between weekdays and weekends at present 🙂
That’s understandable, Griff 🙂
Henry @ #1102 Tuesday, August 31st, 2021 – 7:53 pm
I can understand that. Like so many here, you don’t like hearing anything but your own opinion echoed back at you.
Mvis,
Have you responded to WB’s plea for posters to tickle the till?
I have. My DD is set up. Has been for years
How about you?
Despite what you might think, there are still some sane people in NSW …
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-31/southern-highlands-coal-mine-rejected/100422666
Morrison would have rocks in his head if he were to go to the people this year, the almost total stuff up of C.19 still
fresh in the electorate’s mind. My guess is as late as May. A half-senate election is required to be held by May, 21,
which happens to be a Saturday. But in my view, it doesn’t really matter when he calls one as he’s toast. He only just won in 2019 where he more or less had a clean sheet. People seemed to have forgiven him for his Hawaii
sojourn but won’t I think forgive him twice.
Greensborough Growler:
Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 10:33 pm
[‘Mvis,
Have you responded to WB’s plea for posters to tickle the till?
I have. My DD is set up. Has been for years
How about you?’]
Not yet but I will. I don’t like DD due to my knowledge of the common law doctrine of privity of contract, preferring in lieu one-off donations. But thanks for the kind reminder – I think.
“Why We Should Be Talking About Energy Storage” by Physics Girl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHmIVw9etns
As I’ve said here a couple of times, a November election would be grossly irresponsible. It would totally expose the Prime Minister for the disgusting, vile opportunist we know him to be, prepared to hold a nationwide super-spreader event in order to gain a political advantage, at a time when nearly all of our under-16’s are totally exposed. His quest to secure another three years would likely cost thousands of lives.
The Governor General should reject any request for an election this year, but no doubt he was a safe choice, his right wing credentials checked out, so he wouldn’t.
Actually, I don’t think the PM would do it, but should he do so, he should be very loudly called out.
Greensborough Growler (Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:21 pm)
Asha (Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 10:00 pm)
GG is—as he said—carrying on!
Correction:
” Vaccine rollout:
NSW
37.129.7% fully vaccinated;68.254.6% first doseState target:
70%56%… needs to be at least 80%Thanks Steve. I get tired of correcting that 🙂
Steve777:
Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 10:56 pm
[‘The Governor General should reject any request for an election this year, but no doubt he was a safe choice, his right wing credentials checked out, so he wouldn’t.’]
That’s a bit over the top. Hurley, like the Queen, is obliged to accept the advice of his prime minister, and besides Hurley has a very distinguished record and is respected by both major parties – Kerr’s duplicity aside. There have been occasions where a GG has asked for certain undertakings such as when Lord Gowrie sought a guarantee that the independents (Arthur Coles and Alexander Wilson) would support a Curtain government, but these are rare and Australia was at war at the time.
Gowrie signed off on the ’41 election & the rest is history.
One does have to wonder just what private modelling (either economic or pandemic-related) Scomo has access to if he thinks an election in the midst of lockdown is a better option than waiting until March or May. It must be bloody grim.
Obvious questions for the PM should he go early – what is he afraid of us finding out? It’s obviously something he can’t hide until March. Escalating Covid cases? Dozens of Covid deaths a day? Or hundreds? An economy rapidly going down the toilet? Hospital systems collapsing? Disruptions to essential supplies and services?
“One does have to wonder just what private modelling (either economic or pandemic-related) Scomo has access to if he thinks an election in the midst of lockdown is a better option than waiting until March or May”
The kind of modelling you get when you’re habitually used to getting the ‘right’ experts to tell you what you want to hear. Doherty has been captured and I wouldn’t mind betting the likes of Collignon and others have been pushing this for a long time.
Mavis @ 11:21 pm
Lord Gowrie sought a guarantee that the independents (Arthur Coles and Alexander Wilson) would support a Curtain government, but these are rare and Australia was at war at the time.
Gowrie signed off on the ’41 election & the rest is history.
“Curtin” government.
There was no federal election in 1941. Coles and Wilson decided to support a Labor government in between elections.
Greensborough Growlersays:
Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 10:33 pm
Mvis,
Have you responded to WB’s plea for posters to tickle the till?
I have. My DD is set up. Has been for years
How about you?
________________
That’s none of your business.
If people want to donate that’s up to them.
The reason Morrison will call an early November election is because he knows covid cases are going to get worse next year and that it will be revealed that Australia is in the second Morrison recession in feb next year.
Also,Morrison is no doubt aware that Dutton , Frydenberg and others, including Rupert, are calculating whether the Liberals may do better if they dumped Morrison.
The reason Morrison will call an early November election is because he knows covid cases are going to get worse next year overwhelming hospitals and that it will be revealed that Australia is in the second Morrison recession in feb next year.Morrison also knows it is highly likely Australia will lose its triple A credit rating in feb next year.
Also,Morrison is no doubt aware that Dutton , Frydenberg and others, including Rupert, are calculating whether the Liberals may do better if they dumped Morrison.
ScoMo calling an election in November would be such an act of herculean stupidity that it would make Theresa May or Justin Trudeau look like geniuses.
If u believe that then maybe Gladys will call a snap election for mid-September too.
Latest the house and half-senate election can be held together is May ’22. Thats the most likely. But if still tracking badly, i wouldnt put it past ScoMo to let the half senate election in May and delay the lower house election until September.
The GG would be under no obligation to grant an early election. The PM has the confidence of the House. In the very unlikely event that he loses it, there are options. The GG could appoint Albo as Prime Minister, for example.
That being said, I don’t expect a Coalition-appointed GG to be any more independent than a Coalition-appointed Speaker. He’ll do what he’s told.
Posters here were mentioning November 6. Such an election would need to be called by October 4, the day after the NRL Grand Final. Covid cases might be back to about 1,000 a day, having peaked around 2,000 mid-September, if we’re lucky. Vaccinations might have reached 48% (fake 60%).
Can’t see it happening.
Steve
They’re not going to peak in mid September. They’re not going to peak in mid October. The rate of growth might slow by early October but don’t be surprised if we push 10,000 in October. And there’s no reason to suspect it will come down because at this stage it will be impossible for Gladys to avoid easing restrictions in a material way – a way that pushes up transmission. The more I look at this the more I realise that the models they are relying upon – if at all – are based on data from Alpha.
Feds muscle up over borders.(Oz headline)
More Murdoch bullshit.
Sceptic @ #1099 Tuesday, August 31st, 2021 – 5:49 pm
I understand that Parliamentary Privilege protects someone from prosecution based on what they say in Parliament, but I fail to see how this is the case here.
Barilaro is bringing an action against Shanks, so none of the statements made by him in Parliament will result in him being convicted of anything.
Those statements are on Hansard and a matter of public record, if they cannot be used to defend comments made based on them, how can we report or comment on Parliament at all?
“Last time Fat Clive had a seat on the Green Leather a certain Liberal Minister was in his thrall…”
I think it was a mistake for Labor to preference Clive Palmer over the Liberals when he got elected to parliament in Fairfax in 2013. I know the Liberals are the sworn enemy but Palmer treats politics with such contempt as his plaything that he is not worthy of a seat in parliament even if it is at the expense of a Liberal.
Political Nightwatchman says Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 1:21 am
I think it was a mistake that the Greens preferenced Clive Palmer over the ALP in 2013. I know why they did it (Palmer was closer to the Greens than the ALP on refugee policy). But, refugees are not an existential threat, climate change is and there was no way Clive would have voted against the Libs on that issue.
https://www.pollbludger.net/2021/08/29/newspoll-54-46-to-labor-12/comment-page-24/#comment-3691534
With hindsight, it seems to have been a mistake. However, it only got Palmer 30.08% of the Greens candidate`s 4CP preferences, with the ALP getting 57.94%, and Palmer was already ahead of the ALP candidate by the equivalent of 76% of the Greens vote and so that is not what did the damage.
https://results.aec.gov.au/17496/Website/HouseDivisionDop-17496-160.htm
The most substantive thing Palmer has done is help getting Labor elected in Queenslsnd in 2015. It was very close and his jihad on Newman was a measurable help.
New thread.
Have been looking at the NZ Covid stats and note that 70% of cases are Pacific Islanders. Wonder if this could be related to many belonging to Evangelical churches?
Further, there is a group ,including an Auckland epidemiologist , who are supporting the anti-lockdown movement and am struggling to understand their motive.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/divorced-from-science-plan-b-criticised-for-conspiracy-links?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true