Opinion poll and by-election developments:
• Roy Morgan has published another of its SMS polls from Victoria, which records little change on state voting intention from a fortnight ago: Labor leads 51.5-48.5 on two-party preferred, as they did last time, from primary votes of Labor 40% (up one), Coalition 36% (down one) and Greens 9% (down one). Daniel Andrews records a 59-41 approval/disapproval split, in from 61-39 last time. However, support for existing lockdown measures is fast dissipating: there is now a 73-27 split in favour of allowing visits to immediate family members (out from 59-41 last time and 55-45 three weeks previously); 62-38 in favour of allowing table service (56-44 in favour last time and 63-37 against the time before); and 72-28 in favour of relaxing the five kilometre rule (61-39 in favour last time, 50-50 the time before). The poll was conducted Monday and Tuesday from a sample of 899 for voting intention and 1163 for the lockdown questions.
• The Australian had results from a further question on the weekend’s Newspoll yesterday, which found 54% were more concerned about moving too quickly to relax lockdowns and restrictions, down two from mid-September, and 43% were more concerned about moving too slowly at the expense of the economy, jobs and mental wellbeing (up four).
• The date for the Groom by-election has been set at November 28.
BB
Yep. I reckon they are trying to figure out who should replace her.
This is getting ridiculous.
Lizzie
What freaks me out the most is why one person can be so infectious here in Victoria.
Sheesh
lizzie @ #78 Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 – 9:59 am
Dan has questions to answer?
Lizzie
And goes a long way to explaining why Daniel Andrews and the health team have had to be tough to date re easing of restrictions.
But- but- Simon Birmingham says they’re all too busy for that stuff!
Frednk
My god and i thought BK was selective in his Dawn Patrol.
Anyway, good article by Shaun Carney in The Age on Andrews that is worth a read.
Interesting to see those coming out in support of Gladys:-
“Maguire was not just an MP but Parliamentary Secretary for Corrections and Counterterrorism (David Elliott’s sidekick). He oversaw ‘tough on crime’ laws that saw Indigenous people sent to prison for breaking a window, etc.”
Taylormade
That article doesn’t really tell me anything I didn’t know. “Andrews is under pressure.”
Who knew the IMF was such a bunch of Greenies … ?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/13/imf-warns-emissions-policies-grossly-insufficient-and-urges-green-recovery
This will no doubt outrage the gibbons!
Chuckle.
Victoria @ #99 Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 – 6:57 am
Indonesia at the moment seems to be a mixed picture.
First you have the island of Java, which includes Jakarta and more than half the Countries population, where numbers are rising rapidly. A very scary situation indeed.
Then you have the rest of the Country where numbers seem to be under more control. Here in Makassar the numbers had been pretty steady for a while and are now declining, currently reported at 1,442 active cases.
This was back in August. I don’t understand why some people are still insisting that the Ruby Princess caused no harm.
https://maritime-executive.com/article/police-seize-black-box-from-ruby-princess
For the “All Things Come to Those Who Wait” page.
I have just had a delightful chat with a lady from the Newcastle Body Donation Program.
I have been listed (as was my wife) for this program since 1977 and I am pleased that I will be receiving updated forms for the program together with a body donor card.
The good news is that I can keep my body (such as it is) until after I’m dead.
The very good news is that I had a really good chat with the lady from Newcastle University. Doesn’t take much to amuse me. 😇
Hope BK is alright.
Thank you Quasar for the Barrett links, and note that the one on The Federalist Society names, amongst others, the odious Koch brothers.
Alarm Bells. Alarm Bells.
Keating chaste? – not a place you want to go to (if you believe the gossip or have been to the opera house on opening night)
Barney ITB
Appreciate the information on the status of Indonesia.
Daryl is up at ICAC…
https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/investigations/live-streaming-of-public-inquiries/operation-keppel-live-stream
Hands up all those PBers who thought this is where we’d be now this time last week.
More popcorn!
I thought Gladys would go Thursday….I’m leading towards this afternoon now…..
Sounds like you need less chat and more chatting up, KayJay.
Just make sure she/he is unmarried!
The Sorento Hotelier suing the government over the legality of lockdown was one of the Aspen travellers who brought Covid to Victoria. This is not a starving man acting on your behalf btw. He’s hired the SC that got George Pell’s conviction overturned..
KayJay @ #114 Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 – 10:22 am
Make sure you read the fine print! 🙂
Lizzie
The commissioner found that, within the knowledge he had, all the deaths were cases caught on the ship and the amount of community transmission was limited. He did find one case of a community transmission who became critically ill but recovered.
The question he didn’t consider was how many cases would have developed if the passengers had been left on the ship for an extended period. The Diamond Princess experience shows that this would have been considerable.
The West End Brewery, on whose Port Road chimney the SANFL premiership team’s colours are decked each year in a quintessentially South Australian tradition, will close next June, with statement from LionCo – a subsidiary of Japan’s Kirin – declaring the news “a sad day for the West End team, Lion and South Australia”.
A spokeswoman told InDaily 94 local jobs will be “impacted”, although around 40 SA roles in sales and sponsorship will be retained.
SA-brewed West End Draught and Southwark will “still be part of Lion’s portfolio”, but will no longer be made in SA.
I wish the prosecutor fellow would drink out of a glass….sucking the end of a plastic bottle is so vulgar. Rumpole would be appalled.
As pointed out in friendlyjordies latest musings.
Sky news has led the charge against GBerejikilian. Why? Cause they are happy for her to be replaced with a more right wing nutjob.
The vulgarity is in the witness box.
O C
So why are they pursuing the case if it did no harm?
lizzie @ #113 Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 – 10:19 am
Because they can’t figure out a way to pin it on Dan Andrews.
Also, don’t forget that the Ruby Princess evacuees also spread Covid-19 internationally.
Oakeshott
What a silly comment to make.
The passengers needed to disembark and go into immediate quarantine.
Why did this not occur?
End of?
Why is Moses SC for Gladys not in the hearing room listening to this gross litany of corruption from his client’s secret lover?
The commissioner found that the expert panel, and one member in particular, acted on outdated information and declared the ship low risk, as a result NSW Health did not order the quarantining the passengers but they were advised to self-isolate with no restrictions for on travelling. This was before hotel quarantine was established but after the disaster of the Diamond Princess on board quarantine.
From a political point of view Ruby Princess is the only thing we are talking about in NSW and the Fibs will be dealt with accordingly (heavy satire)
Daryl getting close to dumping Gladys in it.
He was setting up a company for post politics ‘with access to high levels of government’.
What a patsy
Sprocket
Any predictions as to when GladysB will resign?
Counsel Assisting, Roberston, is slowly introducing Maguire to the underside of a big, big bus!
“secret lover” would seem gratuitous if it weren’t also a strictly accurate description.
We must not forget Matthew Guy, who made such a complete balls-up of Planning in Victoria.
Regarding the regular reports of daily covid numbers, I think the numbers need to be approached carefully. For example, today isn’t over, so what 24 hour period does the reported number actually represent? I’ve also seen the reported number go down during a single day (recently from 27,246 to 27,244). So I’m sticking with the total and using that to visualise a trajectory.
But if understanding daily cases is important, a quick subtraction will uncover a decent estimate of effective daily cases. For example, a week ago the reported total was 27,182, and at the moment it is 27,323, which is an increase of 141 in 7 days. So the daily cases for the past 7 days has averaged 20 per day.
The tail of this wave is stubborn.
Woop Woop
“aeroplane pilot’s school” …..
see earlier post by Quasar, alluding to suppression of the story of Chinese connections / Virgin / et al
coming from the Premier’s Office.
The High Court of Australia has upheld charges against South Australian woman Zainab Abdirahman-Khalif, who was convicted of joining Islamic State.
Abdirahman-Khalif denied being a member of the terrorist group after she was arrested trying to board a plane on a one way ticket to Turkey, where she said she hoped to do aid work.
She was jailed after an Adelaide jury found her guilty, but was freed on appeal.
Today the High Court threw out the appeal, after a challenge by prosecutors.
OC,
You are a clever bloke, so I figure you know that you are setting up a false dichotomy. Why?
LR – it is the numbers in the previous 24 hour period (usually to 8pm) – there’s a bit of time to correlate the numbers.
Still 7 is not too bad a number for Victoria – even with the rogue truck driver spreading disease with the greatest of ease… People seem to forget just how contagious it is, how bad to your health it can be and that we have no real idea of the long term impacts of the virus…
Europe is going to be a mega s#itstorm this winter.
AZ – Thanks. I noticed the change (discontinuity) in the cumulative totals early in August. Re your other point.
I can’t shake that jingle since Pence’s recent hook up with his personal fly. (Straight from rubbish tip to you.)
Sprocket
[Why is Moses SC for Gladys not in the hearing room listening to this gross litany of corruption from his client’s secret lover?]
Because ICAC would have given him an assurance that he does not need to be there
Victoria @ #132 Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 – 10:51 am
I’ve had a punt already on this afternoon, in from my earlier Thursday….